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CD32 Repairs and Recap | Trash to Treasure pt2 

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Part two of our T2T series and it's time to repair the board if we can locate the fault, and perform a recap, exploring the method used to remove surface mounted capacitors.
● Series
Part 1 - Meet the CD32 - • Meet the Amiga CD32 | ...
Part 2 - CD32 Repairs and Recap - • CD32 Repairs and Recap...
Part 3 - Upgrades, Games and Fun - • CD32 Upgrades, Games a...
● Music
CD32 Game Music
Alien Breed 3D - Title Screen
Bump n Burn - Dream
Microcosm - Amby
Pinball Illusions - Menu
Speedball 2 Brutal Deluxe - Title
Super Stardust
Topgear 2 - 2nd Theme
Zool - Congratulations!

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Комментарии : 342   
@LGR
@LGR 6 лет назад
Quite the satisfying restoration. And tedious, haha all those caps. Nice job.
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
The zen like state of the recap job is how I find inner peace Clint. Ohmmm. Looking forward to playing some games now.
@swesorjones4027
@swesorjones4027 6 лет назад
Oh hi. Didn't expect to see you here.
@CocoaEm
@CocoaEm 6 лет назад
The Caps look like they have seen some things
@semplew
@semplew 6 лет назад
Hail to the king! 😁
@ag3ntorange164
@ag3ntorange164 4 года назад
Great to see you here. I'm a huge fan!
@ModernVintageGamer
@ModernVintageGamer 6 лет назад
brilliant stuff, you've mastered the art of making a very tedious recap compelling viewing. Well done sir
@1stage
@1stage 6 лет назад
Agreed. You are a madman.
@TheHighlander71
@TheHighlander71 6 лет назад
A testament to your patience. Replacing that many surface mounted caps is a job and a half.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 6 лет назад
So that's why all the ATI Radeon cards have pen marks on the caps? :D Seriously, fantastic effort. I get way too frustrated when trying to film my soldering, so that was great to watch!
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 6 лет назад
Nice job! Looking forward to the A1200 upgrade part. :)
@B3tanTyronne
@B3tanTyronne 6 лет назад
I was late to the cd32 party and picked up one up on ebay a few years back - for me one of the benefits is that due to their being practically no copy protection on it, it is quite happy to play a backup copy of a game as it is the original - which makes playing hard to get or very expensive originals possible.
@fuzzywzhe
@fuzzywzhe 5 лет назад
You may just as well run UAE on a raspberry pi. Compatibility is near 100%, and it's doing cycle accurate simulation.
@CRG
@CRG 6 лет назад
Having done this very same job at the weekend I thought you'd like to know that on my revision 3 board from the factory both the caps you mentioned were installed the correct way and are labelled on the board correctly. I highly recommend to anyone trying this to test the pads as you showed rather than just assuming they are the wrong way round.
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
Ooh now that is interesting. Differences on the same revision board could definitely cause some confusion if assumptions are made
@DrLilo
@DrLilo 6 лет назад
When you spend the whole day watching Retro Man Cave and Jan Beta restoration videos and a new one is delivered as if by magic.
@rachelgraves2470
@rachelgraves2470 6 лет назад
I really wanted a cd32 as a kid, and I still do one. I miss my 500+ and keep trying my luck on freecycle !
@pedroserapio8075
@pedroserapio8075 6 лет назад
Watching this videos it's like viewing the fireplace channel in Christmas Night, with the addition of the voice-over it's perfect. Lovely work. My congratulations.
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
Thank you Pedro I'm glad you enjoyed it
@AlexWitney
@AlexWitney 6 лет назад
The patience you have for this work is incredible, great video.
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
Cheers. The reward of a working system is worth it 🖒
@LEVELMotorsports
@LEVELMotorsports 6 лет назад
What a labor of love. This was great to watch.
@ste309w
@ste309w 6 лет назад
Earlier today I got out my Cd32 and took its top off (ooh er!). I found those two large black caps near the psu input are reversed like yours, bulged and have a strange brown residue on them. Obviously these will have to be replaced and I'm hesitant to turn it on till I have. Thanks for making this video, you may have just saved my console!
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
ste309w excellent work well done. Saved just in time 🖒🕹
@ste309w
@ste309w 6 лет назад
RetroManCave Cheers! Hopefully all will be good once I've done that. Not looking forward to a complete recap.
@ste309w
@ste309w 6 лет назад
Hi again. What capacitors would you recommend to replace those 2? I can't quite make out the voltage and resistance rating on the sides because of the residue. I think they're rated at 10v? Thanks.
@Dkentflyer
@Dkentflyer 6 лет назад
Excellent work diagnosing the faulty cap, great video.
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 6 лет назад
De-ja-vu there on the reversed capacitor checks! Back to black works wonders on systems like this, but as you say - it doesn't last forever - makes you wonder where that silicone goes?!?! Good job though! It's a bit easier just adding the solder onto the cap connection as you hold the cap in place btw, rather than sliding the cap into a molten blob of solder - but there's many ways to crack a nut I guess! PlastX or Novus works well on the drive window too - where they have been scratched on hard surfaces when upside down etc. Nice to see this one saved from a fate worse than leakage!
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
GadgetUK164 - Retro Gaming Repairs & Mods I'll look those up for the window thank you. Interestingly in another comment someone had a rev 3 board which is labelled and fitted correctly so it's not a given they are wrong. Well worth double checking! Great to see you here as always 🖒
@miikasuominen3845
@miikasuominen3845 6 лет назад
When I got my CD32, I instantly checked the capacitors. As I had done some background research of CD32. On mine they were fitted correctly, though I cannot be sure, if someone had corrected them earlier... Though I have a memory, that I didn't see soldering marks on capacitors. Anyway, I didn't do anything else, because the machine is in very good order. Very clean and no scratches. And what is most important, CD reads very, very well :) I just need a good gamepad for it now and I won't pay 100€ for one, so that too is going to be a challenge ;) Not so lucky on my STFM and STE, though. I'll probably start by getting a repair kit for their PSUs... And of course, then there is always the Acorn Archimedes with quite bad corrosion from leaked (clock/memory) cap... That one is going to be a real test ;) I need more time and money :D
@tinman7551
@tinman7551 6 лет назад
It’s like your videos are the blueprints of every amazing computer and console of my teenage years. I cannot thank you enough for these treasures. Your de-soldering and recap-ing of the board is epic and incredibly inspirational. I’m so building my own station to start practicing!
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
Good man I always love to hear of people being inspired to get going. Break things until you make them work :D
@lancesimcox6348
@lancesimcox6348 6 лет назад
Awesome job RetroManCave really looking forward to part 3 now.
@robtaylor2045
@robtaylor2045 6 лет назад
Great job. Inspired me to recap my CD32s when I have enough spare time.
@exoyt7575
@exoyt7575 6 лет назад
Awsome video, thank you for all the care you put in them!
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
EXO 2xii you're welcome and thank you for watching
@scoobytim129
@scoobytim129 6 лет назад
Great work, love your vids and the CD32 was one of my many consoles it's good to see one brought back to life.
@RDJ134
@RDJ134 6 лет назад
Awesome as always can wait to see the 3th part with expansion and other cool stuff. Great work :)
@neilblack8362
@neilblack8362 6 лет назад
This is a golden age for retro game/hardware content! Excellent video as always.
@ibd1977
@ibd1977 6 лет назад
Nice work mate, enjoying your content...Keep it up.
@mkrete
@mkrete 6 лет назад
Great work! Love the channel.
@redcray0n
@redcray0n 6 лет назад
Loving the music choice this episode! Can’t wait for the next part :)
@MrAzztech
@MrAzztech 6 лет назад
awesome work RMC !
@Cmdad
@Cmdad 6 лет назад
This brings back some great memories. I bought a CD-rom drive for my A1200 back in the day, it connected via PCMCIA and emulated that chip you spoke about, i dont recall the brand. I remember the intro to microcosm wowing me and my siblings. We would watch that intro over and over again in amazement of the FMV graphics!
@Gretchen1978
@Gretchen1978 6 лет назад
well done! very inspiring restoration!
@stomperthemixer1
@stomperthemixer1 6 лет назад
Awesome parts one and two, love these videos keep them coming buddy
@frigbychilwether
@frigbychilwether 6 лет назад
Hi, Impressive work. I am amazed at your recapping. I just don't have steady enough hands for that kind of fine work. Soldering a 15 pin D-Sub was hard enough.
@Snowmation
@Snowmation 6 лет назад
Great video man, very informative...as was part one!
@robertdutcher8081
@robertdutcher8081 6 лет назад
Amazing soldering. Taught me a lot. Thank you.
@qettyz
@qettyz 6 лет назад
Bringing CD32 back to life. Easily earned sub!
@fl366
@fl366 Год назад
Great happy to see some Great retro hardware given new life!
@smittenthekitteninmittens2679
@smittenthekitteninmittens2679 6 лет назад
such a neat re-cap!! more so considering the amount of them..i guess it's helpful that the majority are not soldered through the board!!
@greedygreggor
@greedygreggor 5 лет назад
Good job! impressive hand skills and a fab refurb :)
@robbyxp1
@robbyxp1 6 лет назад
Lovely video. That was a job and a half with so many caps!
@MadPeteST
@MadPeteST 6 лет назад
Great episode Neil, and some top detective work. Excited to hear of upgrade plans too, this is what I had planned to do back in the day but didn't get to do it, so very interested to see how that works out.
@electronash
@electronash 6 лет назад
MadPete It is amazing how many people are scared of learning to read a few block diagrams and schematics tbh. I hope vids like Neils will encourage more people to give it a go, as it can help narrow down certain faults VERY quickly at times. (assuming the rest of the caps in a device might be OK, and the fault is only in one area.) For people who are only just starting to read schematics, it can be daunting, but a good tip is that you can often work backwards from the video / audio outputs instead. You should then instantly see the caps and other components that are involved in those outputs, find the designator (eg. C236 etc.), then locate it on the board. You don't necessarily re-cap every retro machine of course, but many of them were only designed to last maybe 5-6 years (if that), so if you ,REALLY care to preserve these machines for many more years / decades, then replacing the electrolytics very often helps. There is still a big issue atm with "fake" / poor quality cheap caps though, and the fallout from an apparent case of espionage and stolen electrolyte formulas. Only a few trusted sources of good electrolytics remain, like Panasonic, Vishay, Dubillier, Nichicon, but they can often be quite expensive when a lot of caps are needed. Personally, I have often just took a chance on some lesser-known brands, and they are still often preferable to bulging / leaky original caps. (eg. I re-capped a 3DO FZ-1 the other day, and used some rather cheap "105C" rated caps from an eBay UK seller. They might not be the best quality caps, but I think they will be more than good enough, and way better than the failing originals.) Best to periodically check them though, or even better - check them with an ESR meter that is designed to work in-circuit. ;)
@MontieMongoose
@MontieMongoose 6 лет назад
Great video as always
@iwgnma
@iwgnma 6 лет назад
very neat job with that recap. Great video
@NLDXBOX
@NLDXBOX 6 лет назад
Aaah, that nice Super Stardust music at the start bring back memories. Nice job and keep those awesome video's coming!
@EduArana
@EduArana 6 лет назад
Great video! That monitor is so cool :p
@davethomas1241
@davethomas1241 5 лет назад
I love watching these videos
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff 6 лет назад
Atten 8586 hot air rework station here. Hot air is great. Reversed audio caps. All the classics!
@tonylorentzen
@tonylorentzen 6 лет назад
I'm baffled this channel doesn't have more subscribers. Primo content!
@Dr.D00p
@Dr.D00p 6 лет назад
It has a great subscription number, given the niche subject.
@aspectcarl
@aspectcarl 6 лет назад
Discovered you by RU-vid recommendation and loving your work, another happy subber
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
Thanks and welcome to the cave Carl
@thyatron
@thyatron 6 лет назад
Very well Done Retro Man
@michaelsworkshop9031
@michaelsworkshop9031 6 лет назад
Excellent recap of a recap...
@LambdaCalculus379
@LambdaCalculus379 6 лет назад
Glad to see another CD32 brought back from the brink! Great work!
@brostenen
@brostenen 6 лет назад
Wonderfull.... Congrats on a once again, working machine. They are wonderfull.
@steelscooter
@steelscooter 6 лет назад
Still got my CD32 and A1200 and they work great. The A1200 has a 50mhz 030 accelerator and compact flash with Whdload. Wouldn't swap them for all the tea in China
@bitsnbobsbobsnbits368
@bitsnbobsbobsnbits368 6 лет назад
Excellent video subscribed
@AdiSneakerFreak
@AdiSneakerFreak 6 лет назад
Very satisfying video 👍👍
@RetroBoxRoom
@RetroBoxRoom 6 лет назад
Very interesting as always!
@jongant4937
@jongant4937 6 лет назад
Brill video as always. My (very spoilt) friend from school had one from launch. Luckily he got bored of it very quickly so I borrowed it and played it to death. Never really got on with Liberation but Diggers 2 was fun - kind of a Terraria, 20 years earlier. I think they were the packaged launch titles. There was a nice castles strategy game but don't recall the name.
@Colidace
@Colidace 6 лет назад
My lovely CD32@1200+HDD! This is my second (after A500) and my last AMIGA model. I sell it in 1996 for PC :( I love your videos. Ah memories...
@martinh4982
@martinh4982 6 лет назад
You must have the patience of a saint! Just watching all that recapping was painful!
@wildmant7691
@wildmant7691 6 лет назад
I enjoyed this video. You have a new subscriber!
@Piratawww
@Piratawww 6 лет назад
Great Job!
@ilikethispost7826
@ilikethispost7826 5 лет назад
Another fantastic vid. Glad to see you restoring old tech. It must be really satisfying to do. Could you recomend any books to learn the basics of elictronics to learn how to do this?.
@lwilton
@lwilton 6 лет назад
Nice job. I've still got a CD32 sitting in the living room, somewhere, Haven't tried to power it up in years, maybe i should. If I recall it was a developer machine got straight from CBM.
@raymoreton3184
@raymoreton3184 6 лет назад
Nice work!!!!!!!!!!!
@davidcarr4991
@davidcarr4991 6 лет назад
"At long last, Trill is a free man.... but he will forever curse his parents for naming him after budgie food.."
@Kundalini12
@Kundalini12 6 лет назад
Impressive video. That would be way too daunting a task for me.
@BaumInventions
@BaumInventions 6 лет назад
Its nice to see that it actually was exactly this fault. Well done video!
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
It's always nice to track it down instead of blanket fixing it if possible, we learn more that way
@CJWarlock
@CJWarlock 6 лет назад
Supercool! Congrats on the repair. :) Amiga rulez! :D
@flashdniwer4263
@flashdniwer4263 6 лет назад
No fires or explosions 🌋📀💣 Woo Hoo !! 😄 Luv these nitty gritty into the electronic weeds videos.👍 And u got a nice vice. Kudos. 👌
@josephneale10215
@josephneale10215 6 лет назад
Awesome video
@ptrwiv
@ptrwiv 6 лет назад
Great job. Although I didn’t have a CD32 or A1200, I did have the CD expansion for the A500+ which involved putting the CD into a caddy before slotting it into the drive. I’ve not seen any mentions of this drive on retro channels or the like :/ I remember the videos from Pandora’s CD (intended for the CD32) clearly from all those years ago.
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
The A570. I too had that back in the day long after CDTV had failed but the PDTV CD's kept me busy for hours and hours. I'd love to get one.
@spidermcgavenport8767
@spidermcgavenport8767 6 лет назад
I'd love to own this console one day i will and probably have to replace the caps also thank you for this fix.
@casasecure2419
@casasecure2419 6 лет назад
Great job.
@iliariano3126
@iliariano3126 4 года назад
THX a lot 4 this video!
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 4 года назад
Thank you for watching
@JamalStHill
@JamalStHill 6 лет назад
Am I the only one that thinks he has an amazingly soothing voice?
@MikeyGRetro
@MikeyGRetro 6 лет назад
Nice recap! I used very similar setup recapping A600 and best way imo. CD32 has quite a few more caps so well done :-)
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
Well that's good to hear, I don't have an A600 but no doubt it will need a recap when I get hold of one
@BrekMartin
@BrekMartin 6 лет назад
Nice :) Another one saved. Those two cap footprints are actually hybrid, and are silk screened correctly for SMT caps. It’s just been misinterpreted for the thru-mounts they actually used.
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
Ah now that would explain the confusion at C= a little better. Thanks for that
@BobM925
@BobM925 6 лет назад
I remember my CD32, I had the SX-1 expansion with a floppy drive etc. Due to the downfall of Commodore I put it all up for sale in Micro Mart some time in 1995, and bought an SVGA monitor for my PC with the proceeds. The thing I remember clearest of all - when playing Cannon Fodder during the level load screens (when the helicopter flew past) the CD drive made an alarming racket, yet it seemed to work just fine. Odd. Thanks for the memories keep up the good work 👍
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
You will enjoy episode 3 in a couple of weeks when some recent orders arrive then :). Cannon Fodder was a game I watched Jon Hare demo at an expo way back when it was in beta on a gigantic screen. When it came out I played it so much I would hear the damn "eurgh" sound of the soldiers in my sleep. Great memories
@BobM925
@BobM925 6 лет назад
RetroManCave I was playing it on an emulator not so long back, still a funny and playable game I think
@CarlPaulsen
@CarlPaulsen 6 лет назад
Ah, the memories...
@TheGreatWent1
@TheGreatWent1 6 лет назад
up until year 2000 the CD32 & SX-1 was my PC ... good stuff
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 лет назад
Ive just finished renovating my technics rs-bx727 quartz tape deck, fitted sockets for the 4066 chips and replaced them with texas instruments and changed 30 capacitors 4 resistors and other bits, before the vu meter wasnt accurate when recording its spot on now
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
Nice work I bet that was satisfying so see fixed as a result
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 6 лет назад
Mate the recordings it makes sound beautiful! best tape deck ive ever owned
@bagdaduk
@bagdaduk 3 года назад
I remember seeing this for the first time on The Big Breakfast morning TV show.
@Edman_79
@Edman_79 6 лет назад
Funny thing, I thought that these solid state capacitors should hold for very long time and I mean - long time. Far longer than electrolytic. I guess you learn something new every day :) But it is also becoming quite obvious to me that I'll have very hard time trying to do repair like this in case I'll finally decide to try. My hands shake like hell, oh goodness... it looks so easy when you watch someone who knows what to do. Well, excellent work as always.
@lordmithras47
@lordmithras47 6 лет назад
Polymer capacitors are designed to last 20 years under normal usage, whereas electrolytics typically have a 5-10 year lifespan.
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 6 лет назад
Those were all electrolytics he replaced.
@Edman_79
@Edman_79 6 лет назад
Even my 775 Gigabyte motherboard cardboard box says in big print that they replaced most of caps with solid state ones for higher durability. By description, I consider electrolytic caps to be those standard non-solid aluminum electrolytic bulging bastards - just to make it simple.
@Ben-fr8gi
@Ben-fr8gi 6 лет назад
I have very shaky hands too, and not the best grip. But I do manage to solder and paint. A good work surface where I can rest my elbows is important, and taking a moment to work out the best angle to work at. I try to take the strain off my hands by moving the object around rather than soldering at a difficult angle. But anyone starting out soldering, shaky hands or not should start with some trash boards to learn first.
@TheLambLive
@TheLambLive 6 лет назад
Superb.
@Os.-
@Os.- 6 лет назад
Another great video, thanks for sharing :) Am curious where you source your capacitors in the UK?
@ProjectGeek1
@ProjectGeek1 6 лет назад
What a interesting machine, Commodore sure did love the UK. Never saw that here :(
@therushden
@therushden 6 лет назад
Fantastic video, as usual.👍will you fit, or is there one of those fancy flash drives that has all the games on it? I'd imagine cd32 cds to be a bit thin on the ground.
@fortnitegod2647
@fortnitegod2647 6 лет назад
Those smd capacitors why did they use so many? The machine looks near museum quality you've future proofed yet another retro micro for another day. Great vid Neil 😋...Kim
@RyanUkAus
@RyanUkAus 6 лет назад
Love the look of this system and yours came up great! Just a shame no real exclusive software took advantage of it. I happened to come across an unused CD32 not too long ago but it turned out to be one destined for the Canadian market so is NTSC, would like to get it running PAL and not have to switch upon booting it each time!
@TheRealMentat001
@TheRealMentat001 6 лет назад
Damn fine soldering job! SMDs always scares the pi** out of me.
@DennisRamberg
@DennisRamberg 6 лет назад
I'm really looking forward seeing more since I'm interested in getting a CD32. But I would really love to be able to connect a hard drive and RGB output :D (Haven't done the research yet though) so I am guessing the upcoming A1200 transformation will be very interesting one indeed. :) And this restoration was deeply satisfying btw.
@ricardobornman1698
@ricardobornman1698 6 лет назад
Job well done...
@Commander64
@Commander64 6 лет назад
*Great Stuff* looks like you worked really hard to get this fully fuctional, pleased for you. I'd be awful at trying anything like this, my club hands aren't built for fiddley jobs lol!
@seamusmckeon9109
@seamusmckeon9109 4 года назад
I hope odd tinkering does a video on the CD32
@74bobby
@74bobby 6 лет назад
Another Great Video...
@AndyGarton
@AndyGarton 6 лет назад
Great job as always! What are you using for controllers, the originals? Did they need any work?
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
I picked one up at an expo recently which is fine and I have 2 being donated, one is broken so when they arrive I might include a repair in part 3... we shall see!
@MindFlareRetro
@MindFlareRetro 6 лет назад
A fantastic addition to the Cave, and brought back to full health by just recapping -- replacing the RGB encoder chip would have been a fun exercise =/. Well done.
@WINTERMUTE_AI
@WINTERMUTE_AI 5 лет назад
I loved my CD32 and I used it as a computer. Same with my CDTV.
@bryndaldwyre3099
@bryndaldwyre3099 6 лет назад
I only ever got to use one in an electronics store here in Australia when they first came out here. Couldn't afford to get one as they were so expensive at the time. Would have loved to have owned one though.
@wimwiddershins
@wimwiddershins 6 лет назад
That's dedication, so many smd caps. I'd have been tempted to leave it after the fix.
@QunMang
@QunMang 6 лет назад
Excellent. I can only wish I had a steady enough hand to do restoration work like this. I had an Amiga 500 back in the day, and had wanted a CD32, or at even an A1200 or 4000. Couldn't afford any of them, so instead I managed a used hard drive enclosure for my 500, and a modest Supra accelerator which had a 68010 CPU. And of course a modest RAM upgrade as well (I don't remember how much, but it was more than the official underside plugin RAM board. I was even looking forward to the upcoming AAA chipset, which alas never came before C= went bust. Sadly, I eventually had to sell the Amiga to get a more modern Windows-based PC.
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
Qun Mang a sad and familiar tale indeed. Thank you for sharing your memories
@QunMang
@QunMang 6 лет назад
And thank you, sir, for taking the time to reply, and especially for what you you do on this channel.
@Zadster
@Zadster 6 лет назад
Can I suggest Servisol Foam Cleanser 30 for cleaning enclosures? I have used it for more years than I care to remember and it seems to lift off dirt better than pretty much anything. It never seems to attack plastics or leave a residue like general household sprays can. Expensive at Maplin, but quite a lot cheaper elsewhere (CPC etc).
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 6 лет назад
Ah yes I know the stuff, might be worth getting a few in stock for future work
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