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It’s sad that we only get this sort of commentary when people have fallen. I’ve always liked and respected Bill and felt he’s left off of a lot of basketball topics (and this is coming from someone who is in their late 20s). I do appreciate Nick and Colin showing love to him at this time.

Depends on if he's hampered

@@georgiorussell8705 true he could be a liability. might be worse to have him out there. we'll just have to see him on court. but def without him Celtics don't have anyone bigger than 6'9 38 yr old horford to hold back gafford/lively/kleber(possibly)

Who tf is Tingus Pingus?!

@@thatfatguy7591I doubt it. They were talking about bringing him back in game 4/5 this series. Has plenty of time to get ready. He’ll be fine I think

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They didn’t forget .. that’s all they talked about before and after game 1

they lost their best player man

@@terronmathes and we haven't had KP since the first round, what's your point?

​@annoyedPikachu are you comparing a teams best player to their 4 or 5th best? You can't be serious

@@djknight8167Tyrese been bad since all star break stop acting like it was some huge miss not having him nemhard was better then him this series

No he didn't he picked the Lakers but still I agree he did not pick the Mavs lol

He picked them to win LAST year

That was Wildes not him

He picked the lakers but if denver beat them he had dallas over them

@@djknight8167that’s a lie. He picked denver after they beat lakers because like everyone else he assume whoever wins that series wins the title

Foolish yet brave

Yep, flat earth.

But that doesn't affect anyone. It's just what he believed. No one was forcing him to put something into his body

The earth is egg shaped anyhow!!

@@leeabel3854 cute face diaper.

Even when he was “good” that was a ridiculous take.

He seemed to be on that trajectory his rookie and sophomore year

@@djknight8167 Brad Stevens exposed Ben Simmons in his "rookie" season.

@@dii1314 so one team? Out of how many?

You’re acting like these guys are psychics lol everybody has takes that age well and takes that age like milk. Part of the game.

Parker was second team all NBA. By definition that's a top 10 player.

Detroit in 2004 is another example of this.

Exactly...5 rings

​@@havok6280so then Tatums an alpha, he is 1st team

Kawhi was already all defensive 1st team and 2 years later all nba 1st team so if we did the thought experiment he was basically top 10 at the time of the 2014 finals. Not to mention Parker was all nba 2nd team

Ya and just watching both teams... The Celtics always go to show off ball... The Mavs set a zillion screens and throw lobs for the big guys all day!

I mean, the stats are there that it’s unlikely they win the title, but they certainly can. I don’t feel like it’s hate, it’s just commentary.

They hate the Celtics so much they called the 1986 Celtics the best team in NBA history.

@@simcosports2584 lol what stats? Skip is that you?

@@worksbydandeprez Bruh go listen again. Neither of them said they were the best team in NBA history.. They said "People would say the 1986 Celtics were the best team in NBA History" Nick Wright is a known Lebron lover and Colin is just a white Stephen A

@@simcosports2584the stats actually suggest they are overwhelmingly favorites… are u delusional?

I mean, he want like 7 years where it was “always something” with him from 2016-2023. He’s just now settled in after getting the contract he wanted and an ideal roster to his skill set. The thing about Nick Wright’s review of Kyrie while in the wilderness is he missed promising resigning with Boston and going back on his word, really for no reason both ways. Not being a good connective leader on that team despite basically demanding that situation. He also took random unexcused games off with Brooklyn. That’s not to mention being injury prone for many years (not his fault in theory). I think Kyrie is an example of how many chances you can get if you’re good at what you do and well-liked.

It has to be drive ratings. If this many people actually felt that confident in Mavs over Celtics than the sports books wouldn't have the Celtics as heavy favourites.

Facts!! He had 3 coaches smh..Like colin be lying!

Well he had 3 coaches in his first 3 years (I think). So he chewed through them early and landed on Phil. Who knows what happens if Phil isn't there.

Lol what gravitational pull does a 29% 3 pt shooter have? You make him sound like Steph curry lmao

@@Joes35 you don't watch the games do you

@@jordangoldbach yes lol I do. You’re delusional if you think Tatums pull off ball is any more than most stars in the league. If anything, Tatums roster allows for him to have less attention than 90 percent of stars. Why don’t you say something worthwhile instead of “you must not watch games” lol nerd.

I’m a super Celtics fan my whole life (I’m 44) and he’s not far off. The ones that are definitely ahead are jokic, Giannis, SGA, Luka, Embiid, so the highest he’d be is 6. That’s pretty fair.

@@swpdiscipletop 6ish is fair.

@@swpdisciple I'd take him over SGA.

@@Sam-jx8tv the eye test and analytics don’t say that. I’d prob lean toward JT due to size but SGA is the better offensive player and probably on ball defense too

@@swpdisciple I'd rather have Tatum than Giannis any day.

😂😂

Theyve already lost twice so no they actually cant go 16-0

Back to back MVP, 15x All NBA Tim Duncan wasn’t an alpha? That’s certainly an opinion

It would be worse if he did watch it at the time he tweeted/posted. I agree with Nick, I think he agreed with what the title implied and didn’t realize what the book was saying about um, certain people. It happens to even smart people like Daryl Morey. He tweeted in support of Hong Kong thinking China was gonna let it go…China cut off telecasts for awhile costing the NBA over $500M. I’m sure he didn’t bargain for that. Same deal with Kyrie. I always say, never write a check on someone else’s dime. Had the NBA not taken the stance it did against Kyrie they faced huge sanctions and backlash.

@@swpdisciple no he watched it, hes a person that seeks knowledge and learning new information. nothing wrong with it

​@@swpdisciple You're right, he definitely posted a link to a book he hadn't read. Normal people definitely do that. I'm sure Morey didn't mean what he said either. Right? Because he came out and apologized to China like a trained dog since the nba told him to. Think what you want, Kyrie 100% knew what he was posting. He can believe whatever he wants but this weird "no no it's okay he doesn't actually believe it he just made a public post to millions of people because he's too stupid to know what he's doing" is cope.

@@lilxtra6211 I think you’re going a different way with things that isn’t what I was saying and again, actually makes it worse. I don’t want my comment blocked so I can’t say everything explicitly. I’ll start with Daryl Morey…I think it’s 100% correct that he thought he sent a throwaway tweet, not realizing that there would be blowback. I don’t think the NBA cared per se but they do care about the $500M lost! Not only that, along with Covid, that reduced everyone’s salary (I hope you know that)…players received pro-rated salaries that season. That was published in sports illustrated/ESPN that season. That’s very real. I think he thought he was sending a hippie type “free Tibet” tweet and it was no big deal. Clearly China (where the NBA gets a lot of its revenue) thinks “stand with Hong Kong” is a huge deal. I don’t know how else to put it or what ethical resolution you’re looking for. Morey basically dissed an employer of the NBA. What did you think they were gonna do? Saying KI didn’t read the book is the lightest explanation of things. Are you willing to say he endorsed the book because he believes in what it says? Listen, I grew up in black barbershops, I’ve heard the were the real Israelites stuff since I was a little boy. I’m 44 now. We all just treated it like it was your kooky uncle saying whatever and kept it moving. My belief, is KI looked at the role and assumed it stopped there. I don’t even think real Israelites have a huge issue with that. The book also went on to say (again I’m parsing my language) that the J’s are a nefarious group and an invisible hand kinda steering things in the works for the worse, the Holocaust wasn’t what it was recorded historically to be etc…basically all of the tropes you can find readily at any hate group meeting. I’ve gotta believe KI is not of that opinion. I think that’s what Nick Wright was trying to say. It wasn’t about his intelligence, though I’d add KI comes across as someone who thinks he’s smarter than he really is, flat earth notwithstanding.

You're not missing much. Even if you could hear them, no one would understand what they're saying.

No because heat didnt have stretch 4 and mavs packed paint. Always joel anthony or haslem on court.

Because Tatum is a goof in big moments against real contenders