Central Hall with Kapil Sibal, E01: Dr Subramanian Swamy on the State of the Economy 

The crossover we wanted but never expected 😂

This is the kind of politicians we need .... they represent different parties but still respect eachother.....

One of the best discussions I have seen on indian economy. This really helped me get a sense of current state of our economy. Please do more such deep dives on economy, social aspects, foreign policy etc. Thanks

This is the first time I'm witnessing Subramanian Swamy show respect in his eyes towards the interviewer. Both are eminent players in the internal game with immense knowledge.

My ideas about Dr. Subramanian Swamy has totally changed. Very honest and clear exchange of ideas and knowledge.

The final added comment of Dr Swamy’s was great!!when there are many paid media that have a big role in India the Wire deserves the credit for this true and transparent discussion!

Excellent conversation....Got to know about the thoughts about the Indian economy at present moment is really shocking!! and feels that India should rethink on economic growth as said by Dr.Subramanian Swamy... It was great learning !! to know the facts which was discussed in the interview and questions putforth by Kapil Sibal Ji... Respect Sirs!!!

What a economic session... I had made notes of this discussion... Literally from repo rate to gdp saving to nation debt to federal structure to internal liberalisation...❤

Nice.... Never expected these two to be on the same platform discussing important issues so amicably.. a ray of hope

Thank you, The Wire. Three broad takeaways for someone like me who may not understand much about the complexities of the economy: 1. The service sector may be contributing a lot (21:09) but we need to grow in different sectors, and not just manufacturing but also to look at agriculture with a fresh perspective. 2. The suggestion regarding the MSMEs (26:25) and the couple of suggestions on Indian economy for 2024 and beyond (27:41) seem practical and feasible, should be considered by the government. 3. NASA (01:45) never did any research regarding use of Sanskrit. It was one Mr. Rick Briggs, who worked with that organisation and published a paper in 1985 in his own capacity. Briggs suggested that a 'natural language' can serve as an 'artificial language' also, and for which he gives examples from Sanskrit grammar, but he does not claim that that 'natural language' is Sanskrit. What is clear is that his paper titled 'Knowledge Representation in Sanskrit and Artificial Intelligence' was published in the spring issue of Artificial Intelligence magazine, which has nothing to do with NASA. As a viewer, therefore, I would like to focus on the other issues put forth by the discussants regarding the AI. Thank you.

Very good conversation and very valuable insights from two great experts.Thank you both of you.

This discussion is very much required to be addressed and published massively and reaches the majority of people, so that our beloved people can understand the gravity of the situations worsened. Thanks. Good enlightenment and I too agree to both understanding and facts addressed. Vijay Nair from Bengaluru 🙏🙏

Who would have thought that Sibal ji would be interviewing Dr Swami 🎉. Awesome 👍

Very interesting and useful discussion, love it.

Thanks The Wire for having such brilliant discussion on Indian economy! Only Dr. Swamy can put mirror before Modi government. Exceptional conversation between Sibal and Dr. Sawamy on present economic conditions and ways to come out of the mess. 🙏...

Very nice initiative! Sir, please popularise it. GDP doubled in the last 10 years, before this it had doubled in the last 6 years and before that in the last 7 years. Please spread this truth and also ask your party to do it.

It gives me hope seeing both these eminent personalities coming together to discuss the economy at this very critical juncture. Our economy needs to change directions and revive itself to enable prosperity for hundreds of millions of Indians.

From Pak🕊I’m a huge fan Dr. Swamy. I always make sure to watch his talk shows they are so insightful. Wish I can meet him in person, seems a distant dream though. Thank you to the Sir K. Sibil also for such a wonderful programme.

Parting comment that "you and I should be in Govt!" Is telling. Well done Wire. Very good piece on Indian economy's real state - look forward to such sane debates in future

How intelligent people talk without teleprompter or behind radios. Excellent and contemporary brilliance.

It was great experience listening to Mr Sibbal and Mr Swamy who are great brains available in country. Good beginning, it would be more interesting to see them discuss wide ranging issue's even those where both Mr Sibbal and Mr Swamy might have differing stand.

Heartening to see 2 intellectuals discussing Indian economy after a long time. Don't know how many people will take it seriously but its a fact that our economy is in SERIOUS state and it needs immediate attention from COMPETENT PEOPLE...

What a beautiful show. Great start to New year.💯

Timing of discussion is very important🎉 last sentence is conclusion in addition to scholary discussion on such a technical aspects of Indian economy 🎉

Sensible n informative discussion👍🏻coming from 2 people who are from opposite parties but best at their own field, law n finance👌🏻 nice initiative👏🏻

Hearing something sensible after a long time. Keep the program going

What a delight listening to two great scholars and seasoned politicians. We need many more discussions like this so that ppl are aware of the real state of economy and other issues in country.

very very good that 2bright well known persons from opposite party coming on together and able to discuss country's issue thank god and hoping more and more like this discussion happens showing that india can lead the universe . 😀

What a delight to see 2 scholars , seasoned politicians, professionals and bold speakers on a same platform. These are the kind of politicians that India saw before 2014, who can contest against each other yet they can sit & exchange notes, bounce of their knowledge and opinions in the interest of country. Extracts and points taken from this discussion can create significant value if present ruling party is serious about growth and are concern about country’s current state. I must thank you for brining 2 brightest minds on WIRE. Looking forward to see many more. I believe attaining knowledge through reading books is one thing but listening to such conversation is absolutely a wholesome bucket full of knowledge and wisdom. Thanks Mr Sibal, Dr Swamy and Wire team.

We really enjoyed so informative discussions on the present state of economy of our country between Mr.Kapil Sibal & Dr.Subramanian Swamy.

*By the discussion of these two legends, I understood how essential a leader is to be well educated.He should have the minimum qualification of economic development skills. Swamy rightly said you both should run the government 😊*

I have been waiting for this combo finally 🎉

The simple fact that Mr Swamy says he is the only one that knows economics n can save the economy in a country of 1.4 B people is enough to know the credibility of him and his intentions..

Fantastic interview! Income Tax abolition is a game changing idea👍

Thank you Kapil Saab and Swaamy Ji. That's a great conversation. Thoroughly enjoyed. You made it so plain. The ideas of Dr.Swamy can propel our country's economy and make it a robust one! Yes, you people "must be in the government".👍

Very nice to leasing. Thank you Mr. Kapil ji, I sailut You!🙏

धन्यवाद हमारे देश के अनुभवी वकील और उनके तर्क हमें आपकी जरूरत है ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ excellent 👌👌👌👌

Definitely need more of such conversations.

That is the kind of conversation should need in current economic situation(our country) also need to implement ....Happy to see u guys sharing the common platform.

The most needed economic and political discussions like this between centre left and centre right in Indian politics. 💥

Our country needs governing by sensible and informed people like these . Booth are highly qualified and well informed with precise knowledge of what is wrong with this country and how it could be put on the right track. We have many suc talented people but no one around to collect them together and do something about the way it is ruled these days

Worth my 30 mins!! What a good conversation starting with hottest topic in the world regarding AI. People of India should open their eyes and see how inept out present government is and steering India towards an economic downturn!!

"We need personalities like them on the Upfront stage." Very nice discussions.

Fearless discussion. Absolutely great. The people sitting on top should carefully listen and adopt what is good for the economy.

Very informative! We need more leaders like Dr Swamy.

Thanks Wire, for this wonderful discussion between two intellectuals. One question whose ans I was waiting for was, how our media is playing a crucial role in destroying country's progress and how this media issue can be fixed.

Very vivid and thought-provoking points from Dr.Swamy. Fantastic.

I love to listen to Subramanyam Swami Ji not because is takes on Modi rather for two reasons: 1: He is a Hindutvavadi however he doesn't promote any violence. 2: He often listens the other person and speaks his mind. He speaks what he believes in. He is not a hypocrite. From BJP, I like Rajnath Singh Ji and Gadakari Ji as well.

This is why a lawyer should take a interview. How finely he guided the interview is amazing.

Legends conversation, enjoyed so much

Tnx for the open- hearted invite & the open - minded- bharathiya arthik sthithi par charcha! Real pleasure to have both stalwarts finding a common ground & a common issue aided by a common patriotic sentiment discuss , when we increasingly realise that federalism & freedom of expression are getting shrunk.Prof,Swami ji is totally frank in his analyses as he points out the lack of real economists aiding the present Central Government, the existence of a certain fear even among the Central Ministry,not to talk about those in the States,& the ground- level cadres of even the Parent organization, the RSS.Seems a cabal or the oligarchs running the country,even excluding the respected RSS top brass![A good example of this is allowing the slogans of Modi ji k Guarantees,Modi ji hy tho Sabh MUMKEEN HAI! Have they dissolved their history & submerged in the Modi& Shah Waves of? Subbu Swami ji is right in his views that both the preservation of values in our ancient heritage and creting avenues for greater economic development are equally important. True, the one feeds into the other. The lurking uncertainty in the Central ruling junta about the mandate is due to the unceremonious attitude of their own curated andh bhakths, who react , to anything even slightly critical of their masters, without using their sense of mature thinking.Moh maya me ulaj rahe in andh bhakths ko kabh sahi disha bathayenge ,oh Bhagavan? Wishing the election results will educate everyone,pro- & anti- Modi sections of the electorate, lessons in Indian democracy & federalism.Partisans must learn that their Parties are superior to individuals & not vice versa.Vandhe Matharam,Vandhe Bharatham! Best wishes for every indian. 29:56

What can be more interesting than seeing two people like Mr Sibal and Mr Swamy who speak their mind taking part in a discussion ?

Finally! Two intellectuals with different ideologies, talking sense. This isn't like 10 people on screen screaming. This is high quality content

Such a great conversation, filled with knowledge and intellectual toughts

it is really motivating to see people who are having such good conversation better than watching any series or documentary

It is wonderful and joyful to hear two of the erudite and anarchists of our times.

Great job The Wire. We want more such podcasts

Really an appreciating move by the WIRE . Thoroughly enjoyed the complexities of economy being discussed by Dr.Swami

Supreme Conversations

So Independent,impartial thoughts in todays godi media era.Dr. subramaniam swamyji is.Yours rich experience is need of hour.

From a BJP member to being a congress ka dalal, Subrahmanyam swamy has come a long way.

Thanks you #The Wire I have huge respect for these 2 Gentlemen and Scholars….

It's a great initiative by The Wire. Looking forward to more such discussions on this channel. May I suggest that you must bring in Lt Gen HJS Sachdev for a discussion on the Agnipath Scheme. The nation has a right to know the implications of a scheme which has a direct bearing on our national security.

Wonderful and educative discussion. I would like to have such educative people in discussion making cabinet ranking people in the government. India is sure to come out of poverty.

this was one of the very best episodes on the state of the economy that I heard of late...both the gentlemen from very different political parties coming together and forming a common ground for economic development of the country.

It was really amazing and upfront.. Atleast in last few years some one took the economy seriously and discussed the facts in different aspects. .. Great work

Excellent discussion about reality 👍 Expect more discussion like this 👍

Sirs, Amazing discussion among intellectuals. Can't find better word to appreciate it. Just Superd. I wish I had professors like you I'm my college days. 👌👌👌👌👌

Great start by the Wire. Refreshing and informative. Kapil sir doff my hat at you. Cool and calm no shouting yelling just intelligent conversation

We would like to congratulate the wire for this amazing interview..

Very healthy and good conversation, I appreciate. Again Mr. Sibbal keeping it on track. Thanks for proper convey...

It's great to witness two stalwarts discussing the Indian economy. Worth watching

thank you to the wire & Kapil sibal sir for making this series. i think you guys had to take this action earlier but anyway It would be great, if you do the next casual conversations with Raghuram G rajan.

What an excellent conversation . Yes we need this politicians for our country.

What a great discussion!. Cant expect such from mainstream media.

Wonderful Sibbal! I liked this conversation. I hope more in the coming days

A briliant discussion by two briliant practical intellectuals. Thanks Mr. @kapilsiwal and Mr. @subramanyamswami for enlightening us on Indian economy.

Even the Congress did not take PM Narshimha Rao's Name & give him the Credit that he deserved .

Just wow...... Mr Swami....hats off to you sir

Wasn't Expecting this. Pleasantly surprised.

Need more of this conversation to uplift the level of arguments in our country.

It was great discussion with great Indians who know law, politics, economy and many more things in real terms. Please have next episode in Hindi.

What I infer from this unique interview. Firstly, appreciate the way query put across by Mr Kabil was apt, fantastic and level playing. Started with AI and ended with unemployment solution MSME etc., - it's inversely proposnal. I remeber at this point of time how we lost Mr Raghuram Rajan - and reason how, why from where Mr Dos came from. The 80/20 formula apply less than 20 percent holds 80 percent of Indian Economy. Say India inc. it doesn't flow beyond that. It's clear India contribute for Global Economy like Amazon, Wallmart, Google, Apple on tax concessions. These 4 companies Revenue is more than Indian economy and then to India Inc. If this being a case how the per capita income will grow. Disappointment is both the legends failed/forgot/ignored about Indian Farming and it's Economy which was suppose to be the 68 percent contribution for our economy as it was ore independence.....anyway🎉😊😢...

I love when intellectuals have a conversation its just so enlightening!

30 minutes is more than 30 university lectures. Well, Done Sri. Kapil Sibal Ji and Dr Subramanian Swamy. Expecting more lectures. First time I found someone even better than Karan, you were calm and effective.

Excellent discussion. I think this is the kind of stuff most Indians are not exposed to. With two knowlegeable veterans discussing Indian economy, there's a lot of sound information people should be aware of, and not wholly depend on the figures put out by the government.

Finest minds of our Nation

the interview is fab!!!!

Resp/Sir Great Conversation All the best Expecting many more such EP

Hats off to such scholars @Kapil and @Swamy. Thanks for the enlightenment

It is a real surprise and pleasure listening to the talk of two great stalwarts of the country on the subject of economics. Thank you so much..

Thought provoking discussion, we should always consider these aspects, it shows we need educated people in our system with power and authority. 👏👏

One of the best conversation in a very long time 🙏

Loved to see Mr Sibal in this new format

This is the kind of Interview India & democracy really needed

Excellent Should have more such sessions on vsried subjects I Enjoyed the clarity in the submissions

Highly informative and thought provoking.....will be waiting for more such conversations ❤❤❤

A new awakening. Inspiring talks. You, two patriots triggered a lot of interest , that where the emphasis is needed to resurrect the economy now, apart from service sector.Laudable effort by Wire, to bring the two brilliant minds together .The nation is listening.

Wonderful! A great interaction!

Lovely conversation between the two!!! Love it