Cerebus: Church And State (Issues 51-112/113) 

I am very very picky about what channels I watch on RU-vid. I find most comic book RU-vidrs to be just not informative and focus on why their opinion matters with out any substance. You on the other hand are to me the Best RU-vid Channel period on Comic Books. Your videos have an intelligence and love for the medium that excels over many RU-vidrs or even comic book media in general. Your thoughtful dissection of Cerebus is one of the many examples why I absolutely adore this channel. In ways you remind me of Jeremy Parish’s channel who does the same thoughtful and intelligent discussion except on Retro Videogames. Again my props to you, your channel is fantastic to say the least.

This is fascinating, I don't think anyone has covered this with such depth.

Damn pushing these out like a mother! Can’t wait to watch!

Thank you for taking on this very daunting task on analyzing the entirety of Cerebus. I like that you touch on both the contraversy of Dave Sim, but also addressing what is on the page. Cerebus is one of the most complicated and important works. The influence it had on comics and art are important, and the art is of course gorgeous, but Sim especially losing his mind and burning his own series to the ground ruins it all. As you mentioned the series and character both die alone and unmourned

Thanks for reminding me how beautiful a book Cerebus is. Also nice to hear about Jim Shooter doing something positive.

Isn't it tragic when you're learning about a story like this A one of a kind masterpiece, something that changed independent comics forever and would be spoken of in hallowed hall forever... Save that we already know it ends in a misogynistic meltdown?

Man. If you keep bringing up Cerberus, I am going to have to go out and buy it. And I am not ready for that kind of commitment. Good work. Keep it up, and thank you.

one of the very best comic shows on the facetube

Thanks so much for this. The visual storytelling of the Sim/Gerhard team needs to be talked up for the benefit of every comics artist who hasn't seen it. So much creativity, so much technique. The neglect of Cerebus may be understandable but it's the medium's loss.

Probably your best Cerebus episode to date. Pretty encyclopaedic in covering all the angles of the work and its production. Great stuff!

The pain of having to hold myself back from watching these newer Cerebus vids cuz I'll be starting a first read-through soon is VERY strong lol

To me is hell getting my hands on cerebus volumes here in Brazil, so your videos are gold for me

These have been such interesting and insightful deep dives. Thanks for doing these.

You're videos are great! Cerebus is one of my favorite comics, thank you for your videos on it 🙂🙂

I'm very glad you are making this series. I found Cerebus randomly many years ago and eventually collected it all. It was a strange journey into a man's mind through the medium of comics. By the end I no longer enjoyed it and didn't care for the creator but had to respect the work. Learning far more detail about the story and Dave Sim is very interesting indeed. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series.

I first bought a Cerebus comic from my comic store aged 14 and I fell in love with it. It was from the early part of Church & State when Weisshaupt first shows Cerebus the cannons. I bought further issues when I could but I gave up during Jakas Story. Much later I ended up buying all the big books when they were released. Got to be honest I didn't like a lot of it, though I'm glad I got the whole collection, but Church & State is definitely my favourite run of the story, it's Cerebus at its best.

It's amazing that you're able to continue to produce high quality videos that are consistently worthwhile, given your limited audience. This should be THE go-to source for comics fans who want to learn more about their favorite titles and creators, or the history of the medium and its content. Thank you for your continued efforts. I know there's negligible financial reward in it. People who can offer the insights you do are rare, and we fans appreciate your willingness to share.

Loving this series of videos, recently got into the series (read through High Society and Church and State) and felt frustrated that there's not a lot of videos that go in depth about the plot itself rather than the later views of the writer. My biggest artistic gribe with Church and State personally wasn't the photocopied art but the zig zag panneling that occured a lot throughout the story (specifically in the Astoria trial scene), it works for me in moments but I found it to be a slightly lazy way to handle page space and it looked especially off to me in the phone book.

It's here! Every new Cerebus video you make is like Christmas morning for me. Excellent analysis as always :)

Hell, yes! Cannot wait!

hey i found out Cerebus is actually back, with the Cerebus in Hell and Cerebus 1# comics. did you see them?

Great work Master Video !!!

This was a wonderful video, thank you so much for the in depth analysis and for bringing back my teenage years reading this series... Wondering if you've taken a look at Eric Hoffman's "Cerebus the Barbarian Messiah," which collects essays on the comic. You might get a kick out of it.

It's easy to forget how good the art was when Cerberus was on top.

I didn't even know about the controversy, until you talked about it.

15:50 hey Gerhard is wearing my shirt! One of my favorites despite never getting any comments... someday

These are brilliant video essays. This channel is very, very good.

This is a great video. You put a lot of thought into it. I think you correctly identify the flaws. I think the flaws kill the story, though. Characters have no consistency and stuff just happens. It’s not a very engaging read. A lot of it just reads like a drunk college student giving their opinions on government and religion.

Will you cover miracleman the silver age when is finished?

I love your CeReBuS videos. They are easily the best on RU-vid. Can I ask when you think the next one will be out? Im hungry for it/and I don't want to miss it! Cheers for the good work; "LiL'JpD."

This was the Berserk the eclipse before berserk

As always, another great analysis from Cerebus. It is evident that the further you go through these videos, it is harder to separate the work from the artist. Obviously, this is because Sim's worldview is increasingly radical, myopic, and horrible. In short: Cerebus has horrible content, but on a visual and compositional level, it's beautiful.

What is the meaning of this visual at 22:47 , please? I am confused. Cheers! "LiL'JpD."

Were these insights into series evolve over decades of rereading or were they immediately apparent?

Love for SBP, hope Sims' faith will return him to popular art.

Comparing the artistic merit of Cerebus to Akira. Is a big stretch.

Honestly, while I respect what Cerebus is on a conceptual level and even see the artistic merits of it. I am one who I'd genuinely offended by most of Dave Sims views and opinions. And the man's personal views are so repugnant to me that I have a hard time engaging with it. The women hating, the Fox News world view of a "liberal" society of sodomy and decay. Contrary to what you might think by this post, I'm not some hyper triggered snowflake that has a hard time with edgy content. Ffs I own psychical copies of Garth Ennis's Crossed, as well as all of the Absolute Preacher books. I live off edgy transgressive stuff. But the way Sim's goes about expressing himself is just ugly, nakedly hateful and not completely ration either in prose or actual content. Have had bad breakups with crazy bitches. Didn't make me fundamentally hate all women. I've tried with Cerebus, a few times and I just have a hard time separating the artist from the art. So I appreciate more analytical overviews. Summarizing of the story and a more educational view on the subject. Because in spite of the ego involved. Cerebus is a important work in the medium and should be understood and studied. It just sucks that the creator behind it has gone out of his way to be unlikable. It's actually quite impressive, normally I can still enjoy works by people I disagree with or who use story telling devises that I personally fine distasteful. Alan Moore, for example. I don't think I've read a single story by him that didn't include r*pe, a topic which. I do think should be handled with a bit more care than it usually sees. The only story I can think of is maybe a Superman one. But that's probably because he never got the chance to. Hell I still consider myself a Warren Ellis fan, granted there's a asterix by that with anyone in the know about comics. But I just can't get past Sims.

Great art. Story wise? Zzzz....

Oh, and Gerhard made every page shine.

Jaka's Story is also super good. Guys being a favorite of mine. Dave Sim is a fucking genius.

Nice :)

Cerebus was so great. Dave Sim is a genius.

Next up! Cerebus 0, please!