Chain gang Rules | What did i do wrong? 

Thank you 🙏🏻

I’m heading back tonight. Kit is ready

Loved it. Back again this evening

Haha I mean if it looks like a duck… Maybe just takes some of the responsibility out of road riding in a group

@@thewattlife it’s true . Saves on a lot in internal politics and meetings !! Just turn up and ride on the night . Simple

Haha I’m thinking about building a 1x 😜

Perfect for a warm sunny evening

I’d love to hear people’s opinion on this- because I’m a bit clueless. BUT- in a chain gang with 30-45 sec pulls you rotate clockwise so the front wheel moves out of the line and solo drifts to the back. On “up & off” rides then you’ll have to let people know when they have cleared your wheel and you’ll typically rotate counter clockwise. They seem like two different things to me. What do you think?

@@thewattlife”through and off”/ “up and off” is single line, lead rider holding for pre determined time and then moving off to the right and to the back of the line. Have to be careful when moving right for passing cars. There won’t be a signal but you should see him check his right shoulder before moving over. Chain gang is two lines of riders, those slowing/going back on the left and those faster/moving up on the right. As the 1st fast rider passes the 1st slow rider on the front, the slow rider should shout “clear”when it is safe to pull in front of him. At the back of the chain the last slow rider will move over to the fast lane of riders on his right. He does this following the rider that passes him calling “last man”, this is sign that you need to be prepared to get up to speed and move into the fast lane.

This is exactly the explanation I needed. Thank you. I’ve got a bit confused with my terminology

@@thewattlife That's one way to do it, but often with a skilled group the rotation should change depending on wind direction so that you are moving up sheltered by the guys dropping back. So if wind is from the left then you move up on the right (rotate anticlockwise) if the wind is from the right then you move up on the left (rotate clockwise). Somebody would often call the change of rotation when necessary. Also in a big chain gang it can help to shout "last" or "last man" when you start moving up again, especially if some are missing turns.

@@ridley8340exactly. Wind dictates the rotation

I can confirm on a nice evening it was a lot of fun

I’ve come to really enjoy the Tues night group rides. Just need to weather to sort itself out

It is not wrong to briefly half wheel. This keeps from having to coast and causing the rubber band effect through the rest of the pace line which can be even more dangerous. It's only when you're constantly half wheeling that it becomes an issue. You have to be aware of what's going on around you when you do it though.

Completely agree, fastest group goes first. Don't know the roads in this video but a line of 13 riders, when the two groups join up, is pretty long for cars to pass safely.

Happy to pass this comment on, I think as the group gets bigger it’s defintely the safer thing to do

I always ride with the SunGod Vulcans or the Airas. Full disclosure I was their first ambassador but have always used them and stand by their quality. The Vulcans are my favourite as they sit up against my helmet and don’t leave a gap and you get absolutely no wind sneaking behind them at high speeds

Yeah I think it can depend on the group size and the amount of time they’ve ridden together. Short hard pulls are definitely faster, hopefully get there a bit later in the summer

Took me a while to get this. 👏🏻 😜

I’m quite new to this so I only found out the difference between a chain gang and a pace line as a consequence of making this video. Always happy to try to be more inclusive and in fact working on some projects focusing on exactly this

@@thewattlife Nice one, keep up the great content!

Im trying to avoid getting shouted out! haha next time ill try the fast crew and see how that turns out

Will be trying my best to make as many Tuesday sessions as possible

Had the pleasure of riding with Robbie this evening

@@thewattlife excellent! Cheers for letting me know. Saw from the feed of some of the guys that he’d joined again. Large turnout it seems. Interestingly, Adam and Dan Lloyd cycled the FN loop early last weekend. Hmm 🤔. Unfortunately, I’ve not been out for a few seasons due to injuries from a near fatal cycling (car) accident catching up with me 😔. Maybe soon…

Makes sense but on open roads and groups who don’t regularly ride together it’s best to keep things easy for everyone to understand. Or at least that’s the way I look at it 👌🏻

@@thewattlife it's not hard to understand and way harder to pull through if you've a cross wind on the wrong side - which in itself is more likely to create problems. Imo anyway

Next time for sure, just have this 100 mile run on the wkend and wanted to look after my legs at least a little bit

Agreed! When you don’t have big events coming up a video of you attempting to keep up with the fast group would be entertaining

Still a good few riders using rims. These are being phased out in the west but I know Asia still has a huge rim brake market

@@thewattlife Ah, I'll have to look closer. All the ones I looked at on your ride seemed to be disks.

Mostly disc for sure- guy who beat me in the sprint was on a rim Boardman 👌🏻

I think as the season goes on things will get more drilled

I think there’s always a group/club that will suit your needs. Just have to find it I guess