Chainsaw Trouble - I took Stihl & Husqvarna Chainsaws from a Tree company for 30 days 

I don't know about you guys, but if I use a chainsaw for 30 days, they don''t look like the ones he pulls out of his trunk. I call BS!!

Never trust a man who pulls chainsaws out of the trunk of a Hyundai. Ever!! Just....No!!

Homesteader here and I couldn't be happier with my Echo CS-590. Especially for the price.

Next time remove all the Echo branding and put Stihl logos and have them test the "new Stihl" saws for 30 days :)

Could be worse, you could have given them poulans 😂😂😂

Years ago when I worked at a GM dealer as a mechanic, we used to have all sorts of customers come in and complain about their product and how dissatisfied they were. They would often brag about how their Honda only goes in for maintenance items. Years after that I worked in a little shop that did all makes. I assure you I seen every single kind of car come in with all sorts of different problems

Never was a fan of Stihl... seemed like when we ran them on the farm they were constantly down for maintenance... dad ended up buying a Dolmar 510 and it has been very reliable... I've been running an echo CS-400 for 7 years and have only had to service it and replace the oiler once... liked it so much I bought a CS-490 a year and a half ago... great running saws.

Chainsaws are like pick up trucks. It's brand loyalty. You got Ford guys and Chevy guys. They all make a good product, so use what you like to use.

always ran stihl on the crews and as a homesteader now NOTHING HAS CHANGED =) good review

At least they tried the saws. Every professional tree service in my area all run stihl.

This is the most honest video I think I have seen on You Tube in years. I have both a Stihl and Echo and use them both. I tend to lean towards the Echo for most of my cutting due to weight and ease of starting but when I need to cut some serious wood the Stihl is what I use. Great Video for both Stihl and Echo users.

I love the owners attitude and how much he cares. I'm a 20yr veteran climber. Awesome video. And this guy knows what he's talking about

They had some good points regarding the Echo design. But still love my Echo saws!

Sounds to me like this guy didn’t want to like the echo all I know my experience with sthil is I spend more time pulling on the cord than cutting

My Echo cs 400 has worked flawlessly for almost 4 years! No leaks or any issues at all!

I own a lawn care company and started out with STIHL products. I could NOT keep all my STIHL equipment going at the same time. There was always something wrong with one of them. During that time I bought a used echo blower (6-7) years ago. I still use that blower to this date and all I have done was put gas in it!! I also, about the same time, bought used hedge trimmers. They are the same story as the back ground. So, since then, my company has majorly grown and during that growing process, I started buying shindawia. Each one has let me down at least 3 times. I knew I should have bought echo but didn't do it because in my mind..."echo isn't professionally grade enough." This year I have made the best decision to slowly transform all my handheld equipment to echo. I couldn't be happier!!!! Thanks for the honest review! I do agree with the tree company owner as far as the chainsaws go. STIHL does seem to have the market on saws from everyone I know and see. STIHL also has the best advertisement and memorabilia on the market. I.e. Truck air fresheners, clothing, suspenders the kind of junk that doesn't matter but is kinda cool. Like I said great review. Love your channel.

They don't look like they've been used professionally for 30 days IMO. Can't beat Husky

I run echo saws in my tree service. I love there small to midsize saws. Even my dealer says the echo just doesn’t have a good large saw. It’s hard to beat echo’s price and warranty.

This video validated my feelings 100%. We use all Echo equipment (blowers, trimmers, hedge trimmers etc), but when it comes to our chainsaws, all Stihl!! He said it best. "When it comes to chainsaws, they're just not there yet."

I just bought my first chainsaw for my ranch. Stihl ms 260 and I'm sold on the brand . I liked your video because it's honest hood job gentleman

from my experience with sthil saws i wont buy one. we have 5 various size saws at work and they are always needing some kind of work done to them. usually carb problems. our sthil weedeaters also suck. carb issues just like the saws. the trimmers are used heavily but the saws aren't. i work on a golf course and when its time to trim trees or anything that requires a chainsaw i try to get out of it so i dont have to deal with all the problems. i have owned an echo saw and trimmer for about 12 years and not a single problem

I've been using a poulan pro for the last 3 years and had no mechanical break downs. I'm not easy on it either.

This is one of the best reviews I've seen. The guy gave his opinion and what he'd like to different about the product. Thanks for this review.

i just bought an Echo CS-590 timberwolf 24". This thing is a beast. Took care of a 5' diameter red oak trunk with no issues. Never bogged down once. I'm not a professional who will use this every day for 4-6-hours of use. Just a homeowner that likes to cut up his own firewood. If i were a professional, i may have gone a different route. Point is, Echo chainsaws may not be there yet for the professional, but for the average homeowner who may use it a dozen times a year, you can't beat it. Why pay more for a husky or stihl where the Echo line hold its own.

4 years on a 355T in the trees. Love it. Wouldn't touch a new sthil or husky top handle with a 10 foot pole. 3 months on my 620PW falling trees. Love it.

He said I’m used to running Husqvarna 455, Stihl 029 😂 That’s homeowner grade saws being used on tree crew then bashing Echo pro saw 🤦🏻‍♂️

I run all three, Stihl Husqvarna and Echo. I love my echo 355 top-handle saw for bucket work. My bigger saws are modified huskies and I love them. I have a 365 special with a 75 CC Big Bore modified by Wicked Work Saw. Love it.

This guy knows what he is talking about! After over 40 years of having a chainsaw in my hand I agree with the tree contractor. You know from experience.

why did the saws looked BRAND NEW yet when he returned them? he ran all 4 saws an hour or 2 tops

I agree that the Echo trimmers are solid, especially the older ones.

I have a Sthil I bought in 1987 and it still runs like a champ.

I couldn't be happier with my echo chainsaws. They make very good tools.

I respect the honesty coming from your Channel thank you sir

I am a Stihl,Echo,Red-Max and Husqvarna certified technician. and my personal saw is an Echo,I also own several Stihl's too as well as other brands. I think I may own about 40 complete saws and 30 or so parts saws. I personally wouldn't want a Husqvarna as my personal saw,they are way to temperamental and hard to repair for me. I really love my Echo,the only other saw that I've liked as much in the last 6 to 7 years is the Red-Max,but of course Husqvarna phased Red-Max out. I'll stick with my Echo,oh and I have 30 years experience with chainsaws too.

I respect what echo did. It is the feedback to make a bullet proof product and this video will help me be smarter on chainsaw purchase. God bless Stan

Real MVP is the Oregon Bar

I live in Texas and have been Trimming and cutting down trees for over 20 years. I use Echo . I have used all the other brands . Stihl the gas and oil caps they leak. It's a great idea have gas and oil cap with out using a tool. You have to go Stihl to get parts. Ivan get parts easier for Echo and get to using the chainsaw faster. Stihl is a good I just like Echo better

The echo CS590 is a beast of a pro level saw for $399.

Thank you for taking the time to do the evaluation. Echo makes a decent product but not an equal with Stihl and Husqvarna day in and day out usage we have found.

I've been kicking around the thought of a new chainsaw for a year or so. I really like my echo trimmer, but was leaning toward Stihl for the saw purchase. This reinforces my gut feeling. Thanks for posting!

Everytime I go out with my father with my Husqvarna he's still trying to get his Stihl started I've got half the tree cut😂

Feels like a stihl comercial not a real evaluation of echo

Now this is an excellent video. Thank u for open opinions and honesty. I heard both like and dislike from the same company. We need more of this!

Used echo since 1980 and still my favorite

Echo makes great pro chainsaws

I've had my 045 Super AV with a 26" bar Scince 1983. I really like it. I used those stupid Fail-Safe chains once, those things are terrible. BUT thank you for the extremely honest video.

What that guy was saying is so bang on. I would say the same thing. Oil leaks, tight caps, heavier, etc. I love my Echo & Shindiawa (same company) trimmers & blowers, totally awesome machines! But my Echo top handle saw was a big disappointment. Less than half the price of Stihl & does the few little jobs I need it for, but if I needed a saw for all day work as an arborist does, Stihl is where it's at. (well at least the old ones anyway, haven't used the new ones yet) Never had more than a few little easy to fix probs with my Stihl saws over the years. As for Husqvarna saws, well didn't see them much, they were always in the shop getting fixed. They are what you call a mechanics saw. Shame, they where ok saws 20 years ago, before they went to China.

almost clicked off when I saw it was an ad, but stayed for honesty and professionalism

I like my echoes just fine . Cs355t is awesome. That 500p is also a great saw.

The only person bad mouthing ECHO was the owner who wasn’t using the chainsaw and all his dislikes were jokes with nothing substantial. You should be wearing gloves so that some nonexistent shock is not a concern, everyone carries a tool with them to adjust the chain and would have it for the gas caps. I have a Stihl and the gas cap is small and always requires a tool to take off. If you can’t hit that oil and fuel holes your hands are too unsteady for using a chainsaw. The one actual user said he liked the ECHO. I own a Poulan Pro, Stihl, Husqvarna and an ECHO. The Poulan Pro is dangerous and had every problem one could imagine and should be taken off the market for safety reasons. The Stihl has starting problems. It stops when you idle down and has to be started with the throttle pulled and you can’t let it idle down. Other than that, it is a good saw and I like it. The Husqvarna has overheated several times and when hot it has trouble starting and requires opening the throttle up fully. The oiler plug came out of the oiler reservoir and had to be replaced. I like it better than the Stihl because I can idle it down. My ECHO has not given me any problems at all. It is heavier than the Husqvarna but is also a bigger saw (60 cc vs 50 cc). It starts with no problems and cuts just fine. If I had trouble with the oiler I could adjust the amount of oil going to the chain (someone should have told Boss man that). The ECHO is my favorite saw. I think the Boss may have been worried that someone would think his crew likes a Japanese chainsaw over an American Chainsaw and that Stihl is considered professional while ECHO is not and this could be bad for his business, therefore show favoritism for Stihl and make up nonsense about the ECHO.

I have an Echo CS-490 and a Shindaiwa 491s which are essentially the same saw. I also have some older Stihls too, but they're heavier and are finickier to get started and keep running by comparison. The Echos seem to be quite a bit lighter and yet very capable saws, especially for the money. All that the gentleman had pointed out is for the most part true, but the older your body gets, the harder it is to toat around the heavier saws and the Stihls are not only heavier, but it can often be a pain in the rump to keep the darned things runnin'. The Echos are very reliable. It amazing their saws aren't more popular with guys that cut up trees for a living. One last thing, the oilers are adjustable so the man's complaint about oil leaking may only have been that the flow needed an adjustment. By the way, nice video. Thanks, Shawn Spencer

I opened my tree service in 2015 and bought an entire fleet of brand new Stihl saws. The only one I still own is a 201T because of all the issues I had. I've converted to Dolmar for my bigger saws but own an Echo 8000 36" as well, doesn't have the power of a 7910 Dolmar but it starts every time and always gets the job done. My best overall performers are my Husq 550XP and 562XP. Groundsmen all use Echo 450s and 590s never had a single breakdown as with my backpack blowers and trimmers. I would advise anyone to give Echo a try. Also check out the Dolmar 7310 and 7910 they are absolute ANIMALS.

Echo needs to take a serious look at why Stihl & Husky are the top performers for professional chainsaws. As Scott was saying the fuel caps, the switch, etc things like that make them less desirable for professional arborists like myself. I've exclusively run all Stihl saws for our companies pruning department if Echo could make a saw similar to the Stihl MS200t they might be on to something. Echo needs to follow Husky and Stihl, replicate what makes their saws great and design it into the echo.

lol. sad thing is, I own both and my echo works better. you dont need a tool to remove caps unless you are incompetent. also I have NEVER hit the toggle by mistake, so I deffinetly wouldnt expect a pro to either. Echo is a Japenese saw and deserves a better review then this. My sthil comes in second place, sorry, bit this is deffinetly a paid review.

Never seen a serious faller in an import... with a trunk. Every one of his concerns with the Echo are valid, but for the price it beats stihl hands down. My Echo 590 starts 1st pull 99% of the time, unless I'm at high elevation and the only maintenance I've ever done was tuning the carb and knocking the air filter out, besides normal bar flipping and sharpening/replacing the chain

I currently own 2 Echo chainsaws, a CS-590 and a CS-310. They are both terrific saws. Before I bought the Echos, I owned a Stihl, but when it was stolen, I just couldn't justify the high price of a replacement Stihl saw. I bought both saws for less than a Stihl. I agree with the other comments; the saws didn't look like they had seen any use when they were returned. I think the tree company guy was terribly biased.

Tree removal experts and while i appreciate their critic. They don't even mention how it cuts?... until kyle at the very end.. Can't decide if Porsche comment means he's a brand snob or doesn't know much about cars.

I run a few echo's here in the UK and like for like machine the stihl's won't compete with the ones I have. My 620sx, 360tes and 2511tes run rings around the equivalent stihl 362, 201t and 150t. faster cutting, more torque and better balanced...what more could you want

Im a professional logger and here in our area Sthil is the only thing anyone runs even husky is considered a cheaper saw. Were cutting hardwoods in the steep mountains of Southwest Va. and Eastern Ky.

I'm just a homeowner and not a professional but i bought a Echo CS 590 Timberwolf and the thing is a beast , cut down some huge trees with no issue. Seems as good or better then some of the husqys and stihl's i've tried. Also cheaper and 5 year warranty so i'm happy with the saw!

Love my echo 590, but than again, I'm not a professional and just use it around my property.

and this is why i love your channel . 100% real deal thanks for the videos brotha keep it going man

I have an Echo leaf blower, and since I live at a higher elevation, my favorite feature is the fact that I can adjust the fuel/air mixture so it doesn't run "rich" because of the higher altitude. Newer chainsaws and leaf blowers, as well as string trimmers, have fixed carburetors, which ALWAYS run rich up here at ~4,000 feet of elevation. It's almost impossible to find new 2-stroke power tools, that allow mixture adjustment. If Echo chainsaws still have that adjustment, it will be my next chainsaw! You can run those Echo engines ragged on 50:1 fuel/oil mix for a lifetime. I've only replaced the spark plug once in the last decade, because I can adjust the mixture to burn that clean. In the entire 30 years I've owned the blower, I've only cleaned the spark arrestor screen in the muffler once. It's totally absurd, to think that a "set and forget" carburetor can be built, that can compensate for changes in barometric pressure, altitude, relative humidity, temperature, or even slight differences in fuel composition. Those "EPA" carburetors are dirtier than any carburetor, that will allow you to tune it to the operating environment, unless, you run your saw at sea level, at 77°F, at ~50% relative humidity,(standard temperature and pressure) and that's if the stiffness of the diaphragm in the carburetor doesn't change with use.

My wife bought me the echo cs310 it's a great saw for limbing down branches and falling small diameter trees and just bought the cs590 and alot of people I talk to say they prefer the echo series saws over a husky and stihl.

Echo, for 15 plus years plus Sthil. ...I use them both. He is right about those stupid gas caps! But, they start all day long!

I've ran echo hedge trimmer( standard size), stihl hedge trimmer (long version), echo blowers, edgers and weed eaters.I enjoy using echo products and they work great for me. Great vid, i respect echo having the gonads to go for this tryout.

Bring safety gear to these work sites and always wear it in the bucket. You do good work and I would like to see you continue to be able to do it.

I own both saw brands MS271 Stihl Farm Boss (20 inch bar) & Echo CS440 (16 inch bar) I have no complaints with either brand. I use the Echo for the small light work, and the Stihl for the heavy. I do this in-order to keep the hours low on the Farm Boss. For me its a good saw tandem.

My dad was an echo husky and snapper dealer for many years growing husky and echo were what I was raised on my dad told me. Once they started selling in the box stores they'd be junk. You know he was right. When I switch all my equipment to stihl I never will go back to anything else I won't even put a snapper mower on my trailer ever again

I’m so glad that this wasn’t all bullshit and we’re actually hearing the honest results.

I just ran circles around a MS-271 today with an Echo 501p. I’m not saying Echo doesn’t have room for improvement, but they make a damn nice saw.

I like how he gave the blunt truth he didn't under play it at all. Echo does build pretty damn good equipment. But I like how he gave it his honest opinion keep up the good videos

guys...c'mon...stop bashing him on pronouncing names. and actually u guys r wrong. it is pronounced HOOSK-VARNA It is Swedish after all

The owner says the says they leak oil, (most saws do leak bar oil,) have small filler caps, (on the small climbing saws,) and the switch will shock you (give me a break, I have 40 year old pieces of equipment with original metal switches, never been shocked.) The guy using the ground saw at about 6:28, says, it has alot of power, and he likes it alot. And even when asked what he is used to using he doesn't really show favoritism for any particular brand didn't seem to really care. This is kind of like asking a seasoned mechanic what his favorite wrench is. Your younger guys will always say what brand makes the heart jump is their favorite wrench and does the best job with his long time of five years experience. The seasoned mechanic will use anything that will get the job done. Cause it is the USER not the tool that gets the work done, plain and simple. These are ALL good products with their selling points, and if a person can't detect this video as a hack, you have your Stihl glasses on. Which is OK to an extent, they are a good product...

I had a echo trimmer and switched to STIHL now all my yard equipment are STIHL well most of them and just love them

I have 5 Echo saws, two Echo line trimmers and an Echo leaf blower and I have zero complaints. I think it's like asking people who makes the best pickup truck: Ford, Chevy/GMC, Ram or Tundra? That argument will never be solved. No matter what product you buy you can and likely will have a lemon once in awhile, though granted some have more lemons than others. For almost every review you find on a product that says it's "junk" you can find one where they swear they'd never buy anything else. I think a lot depends on what you are most familiar with. I do quite a bit of hobby welding and fabrication. I use all Lincoln welders and equipment, it's what I started with and they've worked well for me so I have no reason to change. A friend of mine who is a professional fabricator of race cars uses all Miller Equipment and no doubt Miller Equip. is at least as good as Lincoln. When I'm working in his shop I just can't seem to do as good a job welding with his Miller welders and I do my Lincoln welders. That's likely because most of my welding has been done with Lincoln equipment, my Lincoln equipment that I'm comfortable with! I doubt the question of which chain saw is the best will ever be solved. Whatever works really well for YOU is the best chainsaw, I'd say! I'm off to buy a new Echo 501P. I expect it will serve me well. My brother is a Stihl user.

Learn to use rigging equipment and skip the crane fee.

Glad I found an almost new Echo 8000 with 32 inch bar in the pawn shop , for $400.00,( new about $850.00. )Was waiting on a simple clutch bearing for my stihl ms880( saw was $2000.00 new), still waiting on the John Deere place to call me, been 6 weeks now. a couple weeks ago ordered one from another shop , had it in a few days. The big Echo had to take the place of the big Stihl through a few big jobs, big trees,it did pretty darn good. The 8000 Echo is about the power level between stihl 460 and 660 . I'll hang on to and recommend this big Echo. Been climbing 27 yrs, I'll stay with Echo climbing saws , very few problems compared to Stihl. Most of my buddies in the business with Husky top handles went back to Echo. Even got a mid sized Echo a yr and a half ago, been flawless.

I gotta give it to ya. You have a broad band or variety of useful information on your cannel. I have been a contractor for over 16 years and I have learned a good bit from your videos. Also, I recently purchased a ECHO PPT 266 Pole Saw and love it. Plus it starts every time I need it.

I recently purchased the Echo CS490 as the lightest 50cc saw and enjoy using it. My backup is a Stihl 038 Super if I need something bigger. Most of my use is tree removal/trim on my own property in Texas. I don't heat with wood, so it's just occasional use.

Thanks for a fair review. I thought we were going to hear how great Echo was. Echo needs to make some pro grade saws to compete with the big boys.

I'm A HUGE ECHO FAN BOY BROTHER thanks for doing this

I do landscaping and minor tree work in the Raleigh area. All my Chainsaws are stihl. Ms 193 / Farm Boss 271 and a 026. My MS193 fell out of my truck one day going down the road and skidded across the pavement. Picked it up went to the side of the road, first pull started right up. My weed eaters and blowers and hedge trimmers are echo. I love both brands but Stihl owns the chainsaw game hands down 🤠

I've never used an echo, they seem decent, but I will live and die by my Stihl.

I'm no professional but I cut down a lot of trees at my farms and have both Echo and Stihl and the Echo's have been amazing.

Have used Echo over the years, mostly the small climbing saw, both top and back handle. Overall they were good. But simple things like the starter cord running through plastic fittings let them down. Also have had the pleasure of using equivalent Stihl and Husqvarna saws which I would prefer if given the choice.

i love my echo trimmer, blower, top handel, timberwolf, and poll saw

I've been a tree cutter for 20 years I switched from stihl to echo for my tree cutting and lawn care that guy don't know what he's talking about the only way stihl win's is with big saws 066 or 088 that the only time I use stihl tell echo keep it up there almost there they need a pro like me to give them advice on there saw line then they would dominant the market Edwards family outdoor service

Try out the Husqvarna T-435 I've found it to be a great saw for up in the tree.

Exactly the response I was expecting from the tree company, I have an old echo backpack blower and weed wacker that have not had any problems whatsoever and they are around 10 years old

A tree company can write off a top end saw, but the average home owner just using a saw a few times a year can get a better value out of the Echo brand. I've seen about 1,000 top rated saws break down to 1 Echo in a small engine shop.

A fair amount of what was said is a matter of personal opinion

Excellent video! I run Husky and now Husky only. I have run Stihl, Echo and Dolmar. The Subtle differences in saws weer not a deciding factor the DEALER was the deciding factor. I can go to my dealer has has the parts I need right there and if they can I take to the shop and the either fix it wile I wait or get on it right away! I'm just a homeowner who cuts a ton of wood. The Husky I chose were for my reasons. But, my dealer takes awesome care of me and I only go to my dealer. He treats my like a king and I return the favor. Every time I can I recommend my dealer to people Jacks Small Engine. Shameless plug I know but hey they treat me right!! Oh BTW the Echo blowers and trimmers are a good product but the saws feel time toys. They need to do something to their plastics to make them feel more skookem' and, dial up their engines the make them chooch better

It's the chevy/ford thing with chainsaws. Guaranteed that if they have been using Echo's and were given Stihls they would still have a long list of complaints about the Stihls. Six months ago I also thought Echo was a cheap 'off brand'. The local dealer said they were the best saw they have ever sold so I gave one a shot. I now own four from the little five pound 2511 up to the largest saw Echo sells, the 7310 and just ordered my fifth one today and I'm not even in the cutting business! I guess I just love chainsaws and will be staying with Echo!

You don't need a special tool to open those gas caps. The starter handle has the tool built into it so you pull the starter chords slowly out and use the handle to open the gas caps.

I've ran some echo alongside my stihl pro saws, and they're not bad, but not on the same level as others. The one thing that echo really has going for them is price point, but to get to that level with stihl, husqvarna, and dolmar, the saws are going to go up in price. Just have to decide if they want to make a competitive product, or stay in the minor league.

CS590 all the way love my timber wolves

I just purchased a 501P. The only real complaint that I have is that the clutch cover is plastic. I also think that the choke is wimpy looking and I am afraid to break it. I guess I've never been zapped by a metal switch. I've had them on old Homelite & Olympyk saws in years past. Maybe I've been lucky? So far, the Echo is the least temperamental saw that I've owned in a long time. It's the easiest to start and has never failed to start on me.

Everyone in this video was honest and very informative. This is the way do it right.

650 dollars an hour .just put the tree on fire.😅😅😅