CHALLENGER Tryndamere Goes Into IRON! HARD Smurfing - League of Legends | Iron IV to Diamond Ep #26 

Seeing this video pop off lately which means this sort of title and thumbnail is really something else. To address popular new comments. The dislikes/hating on Challenger going into Bronze/Iron I literally have over 40+ episodes. Its a series and a climb to show how to climb out of "elo hell" I'd be helping 10s of thousands in favour of the arbitrary 4 bronzies winning and 5 bronzies losing complaint. As for MMA fighter vs 8 year old kid comments. Its more like.. 2 MMA fighters one with more knowledge + techniques than the other fighter. That is what League is all about and it's what I try to teach in all of my videos. I play literally any voted Champion in this series. Only reason for the extra dislikes on this video is really just the title and thumbnail compared to all other smurf videos in this series. (Check video description for the Iron to Diamond Playlist link)

I like how you try to analize the game saying things like "amumu won't gank me 'cause he got to farm" or "maybe i can find amumu in the river". I'm like "dude, u're playing in Iron, you can't predict the thoughts in a Iron players' mind".

The Garen is low Elo: In lowelo the player often buy whats recommended in the shop. Thats why he bought mercurys. Its not that hes trolling. He is just bad.

JS: You guys should be climbing out of this elo easily Me: Get hype to climb. Loads up League. Gets Diamond smurf in lane. Also Me: :O

"I have so high ping" - has 50ms Me with 300/400ms - "this is fine"

"if you guys are in iron you should be climbing because these are the opponents you are facing" It's also the teammates you'll be playing with.

"It adds to the challenge." Wait... what challenge. You are smurfing in Iron... with your main.

A challenger smurfing in iron is like a pro MMA fighter picks a fight with a kid lol

@Jay Sea regarding fogged going nashors>ER... fogged goes stinger - warhammer - nashors - ER, unless he has enough gold to buy ER outright. The buying path is cheaper for nashors and he's trying to gain max CDR as quickly as possible. Great videos man keep up the good work!

Smurfing on his main against Iron players, but lags Jay Sea: ChAlLeNgE aCcEpTeD

I don't necessarily mind smurfs. Yeah, they're frustrating but if I have a smurf in my game, I accept the loss, try to learn some things and move on. I understand not everyone is like this, and I understand the tilt some people get when it comes to smurfs. The thing that's really annoying about this smurf, is the way he's 'teaching'. Yeah, he gives some insight on builds, but it'd be a bit more appreciated if he explained more why he's doing certain things IE. Why he's going all-in vs. not going all-in during a certain situation. Most of his teaching is "Don't suck and you'll get out of Iron/Bronze." Maybe explain what an enemy is doing right/wrong in a situation, and how you would have handled it. If a teammate makes a mistake, let them know in an obviously respectful way. This could be a great Iron to Diamond series. But going "These players are bad" makes you look silly when you're a fucking Challenger player in literally the lowest rank of the game.

Smurfs are by far the worst thing in league. You are just ruining the experience for others and its unfair.

16:49 : “I blame lag” *ping 30ms*

I think fogs preference is due to the ap scaling on E combined with the Q heal, he loves everything to do with the spin

Can we get some Kled?

wow challenger guy smurfing in iron i wonder how this goes?? most of these people are probably still new to league so it's obvious that they won't be the most knowledgeable and won't be the best players but sure go off and laugh at them if that makes you feel good

"these are the kind of opponents you are facing you should not be hard stuck" ever think maybe they are the team mates people are getting? Also it's Iron, maybe merc treads were his recommended, I don't expect all irons to know what to build in situations

Never heard a Challenger player say "I got ks'ed there".

Fogged already answered why he goes Nashors first. For a multiple of reasons. You sustain longer and better in lane. He said the adaptive force you get from runes are better in being AP early on than AD. It's 200 gold cheaper and at that point in the game, the stats you get are more efficient for the price you pay. Essence reaver increases your spin dmg by 130% of 65 which is 84.5 while Nashor's tooth increases it by 100% of 80 which is 80. But in return, Nashor's passive increases your auto attack dmg by 15 + (15% AP) which is 27 extra magic dmg per auto. That plus the attack speed you get from Nashor's tooth is way better early on with your Lethal Tempo. They work harmoniously together to increase the chances of you getting a crit to reduce spin dmg cd since you're attacking more often. Finally, he said he doesn't like to rush Nashor's but prefers to go Stinger into warhammer for a cheaper 20% cdr. Mainly for his ult cd. And then he goes Nashors and then Essence

16:48 _"I blame lag"_ You had 34 ms at that moment xD

High ping 50 ms, challenger beats iron. Very impressive. Very. Can't wait for the next video when you playing vs bronze.

To start off this little rant, I understand the point of the "Iron IV to Diamond" series, and I know it can be beneficial to lower elo players, but it's just kind of disrespectful the way he talks sometimes. Like the multiple times he mentions the Garen getting merc treads (first being at 10:30), the Garen player is just following the recommended item list he/she was given, the Garen isn't trying to troll or disrespect you. Also saying the way Garen is playing is silly is just kind of annoying, he/she is playing probably as hard as he/she can (just inferring since I don't think the Garen was trolling at all, just being new or not fully understanding the potential of Garen). This also really annoyed me: "You guys should be climbing if you're in iron, okay, this is the kind of opponents you are facing" 15:00 It's just kind of unneeded to say this tbh. But you know, you would think that people in iron league would PLAY like iron players (maybe because they are iron players, but you never know). It's the equivalent of you (being a challenger like you say in the title) going against another challenger player. 16:30 "This Tahm Kench doesn't know what Tryndamere does" Then maybe you should tell him in chat since the whole point of this series is to educate and show struggling low-elo players how to climb. I'm not trying to be a hater or anything, but it's kinda concerning that a challenger trying to teach new players can be completely disconnected from how new players think, or even at times toxic to new or noob players. I just recommend that you try to understand that these players are new and/or they don't know what they're doing. And for anyone that feels like calling me low-elo trash, I was first ranked in Bronze 5, then I slowly increased my rank to Gold 3, so I understand how low-elo players feel about being stuck in "elo hell". Even though you are low rank, you can still try to get better at the game and get little results because I was stuck in Bronze 1/Silver 5 for multiple seasons and I strived to get to gold the whole time, and it took me 4-5 years.

I vote for YOUR CHOICE of champion and build for the next episode! Surprise us with something awesome!

That Moment when Tryndamere is your Main Champ... life´s gone

Fogged said he doesn't like going Guinsoo's because that's more of an onhit build. He wants to focus more on spinning and critting. Nashors>Essence>IE gives you 40% CDR, 100% crit (with fury stacked up), 225% crit dmg, 80 AP+ 145 AD. Then he goes Hextech for the extra AD, AP, healing off of spin dmg, and the active 253 + (30%ap) Finally, Deathcap for the ton of AP you get from it. With this build, he can pretty much go into 5, 1 shot the squishies while dealing aoe dmg to those near each other, and then spin out with his ultimate on and then heal up the dmg taken with his Q. Rageblade would heavily reduce his 1 shot potential and be better for if he faced a pretty tanky team Edit: Oh, I forgot he also said that the effects of rageblade didn't help out too much with the spin because due to your runes and items, you already had your spin cd down to about 4 second. And with the 100% crit, you could get off a hit directly with your spin. So now it's reduced to 3 secs. And by the time you've spinned and hit, a second has roughly already passed. 1 more auto and you pretty much have your spin back without Guinsoo's passive ever helping. So basically, youre spin is on a 2 second cd which is already fast enough

Ad sion top, or any sion top really

Smurfing is disrespecting the game.

Yay, the people playing against you much have had so much fun.....

every fail is a lag

THIS IS THE REASON NEW PLAYERS NEVER LEARN THE GAME

14:50 we're stuck in iron because we are those players

I like how he doesn't underestiamte his enemies and still tries to play the game like he's facing off with players in his rank

Electrocute Pyke top. Tiamat first for wave clear then lethality items

Can we have Akali top bruiser???

0/9/0 Garen. Buys mercs there. 4,500G. I do feel bad for him, lol.

I think nashor for the cdr if he uses ult before, the enemy wont expect the ult again like the match up he had against irelia

Fogged goes Caulfield hammer + stinger into nashor's first item so he has super early 30% CDR(because he usually picks approach velocity not cosmic insight),more sustain and even better wave clear + attack speed than tiamat(E will 1 shot the wave tiamat will require to auto more than once) and it might sound a little silly but the magic damage on hit can actually be very good against champions who build lots of armor,especially with lethal tempo.

Imagine blamimg lag for missing an ability when you are under 30ms.

Let's get some good ol' Olaf gameplay!! Hes really strong right now and Would love to get some tips and pointers. Thank you Jay!

Man, if you have challenger with this ping I respect you so much

The CDR from Nylashor's is fairly attractive if you're relying on CDR to lower cooldowns on ult, heal, and spin - Essence Reaver requires one more item to realize all the CDR for the build, I think the difference is your play style on Tryn is far less CDR dependent at that phase, and you still just treat it as a 'nice to have' later on, and stay auto-attack focused and leverage macro plays to best make use of that flavor of champion.

Garen: I GOT SMURF!!!!!!! Enemy team: Here we go again......

My favorite time of the day....chillin and watching Jay Sea top lane :)

Jay Sea , as far as i remember he rushes Nashor's tooth/it's parts cause of cdr/healing u get via this item + spin dps (more cdr, more spins, more damage).

Instead of screwing irons who are trying to climb maybe just play a normal

Poor garen had 99 lp dude

Darius- show us how to dunk Jay Sempai

I’m assuming cause a completed item is more slot efficient than 3 partial items. While also giving him the on-hit, better heals, and still scaling with his E as well as an early 20% cdr

Thank you for all the helpful tips. I've been playing league for a long time and never knew there was an attack champions only key.

Does this build is the best for Tryn right now? I mean is it more efficient than tiamat->stattik>ie ?

Diana :/

10:29 - best part of this video hands down. also the best teaching moment in league in general. Yes, the type of boots purchased matters!

Idk why everyone is so mad. I climbed from Iron 2 to Gold 4 in one season all thanks to Jay Seas informative series and guides in how to climb. + I'm having fun in every game even if I lose. It's all about the mentality, every loss offers something new and educational that helps you win more in the future. Jay has definitely helped thousands of others to climb by smurfing in low elo and showing what to do differently in what situation. Benefits clearly are higher vs the damage he does by smurfing in low elo.

don't worry about clickbait or such bro, I see others do it way worse, you actually deliver. And in the end, u got to do what u can to help the channel grow^^

The problem with people not getting out of iron or bronze is because usally the team that outscales wins because people try to end and keep dieing instead of going for baron or elder they dont understand that baron is really helpful in making final push

Oh my, that RuneScape song at the end, so nostalgic xD

*fails* I thought my spin is gonna.... I blame lag . 🤣🤣

18:57 ''Getting way too many assists this game''- JaySea 2019 with 4 assists

this is ban worthy material.

Watching you play Tryndamere reminds me why I hate vs'ing him lol

Jay sea:i dont respect junglers. meanwhile he taking the scutt😂😂😂

Likewise, if it is a video with the concept of irons, I find it quite funny in a way to see the differences in the control of the game and to some extent you can see a difference between it and the errors that exist in iron as a form Learning

Jay Sea you can get an Ethernet cable for unstable ping. Im 14 and i had the same problem but now i have to plug in ethernet in my pc and put it away when i sleep. Trust me it helps.

AD assassin. Talon or Zed. Top or jungle. Runes: your choice.

Nashors + Essence Reaver + Cosmic Insight gives 45% CDR, more spin damage, onhit crits and waveclear. But the main reason for rushing Nashors is for the healing since lethal tempo isn't the best for helping you win lane so the sustain is nice. Also fogged does not rush Nashors. He rushes Warhammer for the raw AD and CDR and then goes essence Reaver. He loves the attack speed, 35% CDR and raw spin damage powerspike that you get from this build super early into the game.

love when my man JaySea says dunzo

Play some Azir! ;)

I don't know the exact answer for your question, but I've read from the chat at his stream, that he sometimes says that he buys stinger, then warhammer. Thus, the adaptative force is always on your AD part. Then you get nashor's. You alredy have 35% CRD, with 1 and half items.

amazing. thank you i just broke my loss streak

surely this video blows up

haha, so nice "i could've gone all in but i feel sad for him" :D

the other team must be like "REPORT GAREN!" sad

Absolutely love the RS music at the end, brings me back to my childhood

This guy talks about his opponents like they know what they're doing... Do you not understand that its iron? Amumu doesn't know how to jungle, garen doesnt know how to build, neither does fizz.

Full tank Volibear jungle with Predator, he does way more damage than people think and is actually quite a bit of fun

How about Udyr top with conqueror?

why is everyone mad at the guy. he wasnt trashing them he was teaching his viewers how to win by playing thinking outloud showing a trick or two

My grandpa always told me, "Just do your best, cuz there's always gonna be an asian guy that'll do better" :D Anyhow i follow a lot of youtubers but none of them gave me the information I needed, hard stuck silver 2/3 for the longest time, last season I started watching your vids, went on a 17 game win streak, I ended Gold 4 that season (8). I think I even can make it to gold 1/Plat 4. And all thanks to you man. You give this small tips that are really really helpful. The best youtuber for learning how to play the game. PS: EUW servers are in my opinion one of the hardest to get high elo, just check out redmercy & Yasuo even they had trouble in Plat/diamond.

good vid :) why u didnt go up the rive to fight him at 1:40 im asking, was the wave to strong he had while pushing in ?

Iron and bronze is filled with smurf nowadays. Hard to climb

3:20 because Essence can be delayed more by building Shiv and stinger would waste gold value for the gap duration between completed item. Just a theory. A game theory. Thanks for watching.

your video rly triggred me :(((

27ms "i blame lag", good video tho :D

"If yooou faceo thich kinda of playels in iron yoou shuuldnt be stuck up in low elo mistel dear american, mistel ligue o leyens playel" You shouldn't be stuck up in your family shop but here we both are lmaoo more rammen plz

Hey Jay Sea, just wanted to say I really enjoy your content. Also, I have an idea for videos that may interest you. It would be really cool if you “reviewed” LoL matches (wins and losses) that your subscribers sent in to watch and highlight key areas where they specifically messed up, missed an opportunity, or just lost the team their game. It would give us low elo players a chance to see why what we are doing is wrong, and a chance to learn that one character just a little bit better. It also would add another dimension to your channel. Just a thought. Many thanks! If you agree, upvote so he sees this!

The merc treads were probably because garen just follows u.gg and doesn’t adapt to his laner

My internet at home is also shit i bought a netgear nighthawk with telstra it give consistent 40 ping best investment i ever made

He goes nashors for the heal and the extra magic dmg on autos

Jaysea I was wondering why you weren't streaming on twitch?

yeaaha baby just come home from a tough exam and found a jay sea video. time to chill eat and watch

Hey man, if you have ping problems and everyone in your home is asleep, go to your modem's settings and turn the wifi off. I had the same issue and it's probably because someone's phone is updating or something like that.

fooged isnt even going nashors first...he is as well going stinger into ER...he even explained that it is better on tryn atm since he is maxing q first and the more ap from nashors on the spin would not be that good in the early, bcs of the high cd

Bro for real, my team was all flaming me bcs i fed you... hey im garen :((( why u do that man

this guy making it so easy and i can’t even leave bronze

Why not Nashors into deaths dance? Don’t you waste mana stat in essence reaver? Or even shojins??

That's all fun and games until you just wanna climb and have to lane against a challenger and your teammates are flaming you for not winning

when the runescape song played you got a insta like and subscribe my friend haha

Jay: Omg Im lagging, Im at 140 ms Me playing at 160 ms: yeh, lag

Meanwhile actual iron Trynd's splitpushing to eternity while scolding his teammates for losing their lane (without actually helping)

So You Play Try Hard On İron Good Job