Championship Game Ends With Losing Team Celebrating Thinking They Won 

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The Umpires messed up on the play. Play should have been called dead as soon as the catcher put the ball in his pocket. I left a longer comment on the video if you want to find it and check it out or even pin it 😂. I’m not sure anyone else even realizes the umpires missed that.

Explain please....

@@youbluethatone1017 wrong

@@ronrichardson5966 🤦🏻‍♂️I am in fact 100% correct

There's the comment I was looking for.😂

Looked like they were playing with themselves

Unfortunately, I bet everything I had on the red team and lost it all.

@@terrybangley5416 I think you mean against instead of with…

The team in red is the Red Raiders.

He shoulda went and asked the other team for a jersey and transfered right then and there

Why did he look like he was 35 tho?

He looked like Andy Reid winning the punt pass and lick competition.

kuck

@@dgdollaz 😂 35

Well, he didn't try to cover third.

😂😂😂😂

I know exactly what you mean.

😂😂😂😂

That’s pretty stinking funny!

One of the few signs of intelligent life on Hornell Baseball.

@Swords to Plowshares Yes! Especially at work. 😅

I chuckled at that..good one

Game-winning inside the park strikeout.

Very clever but the batter never scored just like he was never tagged out

The batter only needed to make it to 1st safely. He never scored, but the guys on 1st and 2nd when the play started scored the tying and winning runs.

I've been involved and a fan over a long period-having seen hundreds of thousands of plays and thousands of games and had never seen any player pocket a ball-till now. DUH!

Cute!

They're still on the field arguing over who won...

😂

Yes, they both celebrated the win, didn't they. 😆 Now that's sportsmanship! It makes one feel good for both sides. After all, it's not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game. ...and how you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...and then stuff the ball in your back pocket, and have it bite you in the butt.

Love your sharp humor. 10/10 on my comedy meter!

He knew.... it ain't over tills its over.

Well ... the second baseman was the only one on his team who was aware. The other team knew the rule and they used to it to pull out a victory from the jaws of defeat.

He is the one who blew it. He should have joined the celebration and maybe they get away with it.

@Panic Sector What a dumb take.

The umpires knew! Notice how they just kept watching as the runners and the batter-runner circled the bases.

👏👏🤣😂

Nice! I wish I would have come up with this saying! Perfect!

@@robertb3077 It's an old saying.

@@robertb3077, Original version is: "From the jaws of Defeat, he snatched victory" or "He snatched Victory from the Jaws of Defeat"

This is one the catcher will never forget

@Xman C I hope he can, although his teammates may not let him. We've all been there, well, at least in one way or another.

In the park, walk off, game winning home run off a called 3rd strike. Wow 🤩

This was not a state championship game. It was a sectional title game , several games before a state title. One thing that got lost in this play is that Hornell lead 5-1 going into the bottom of the 7th and committed 2 errors before the final play. If either one of them had been a clean play, the game would have ended before the final batter.

My only question is, what made the catcher put the ball in his pocket after missing the tag and looking back to see the ump signaling safe? It may be a question only the catcher can answer, but im curious

Not really he had a lot of money on the game and is rumored to be somewhere in the Bahamas living the life right now

He was afraid to make the throw. Air mail it down the line, so he hoped the ump would give him the championship. Not how life works 😊

My guess was that when the catcher turned to look at the ump, he just misread the umps safe signal as an out signal... meaning he did tag the runner, which no one else (except the batter) will ever know if he really did.

Actually once he put the ball in his pocket the play is dead, umpires call time and award bases, which in this case would’ve been 1st for the batter runner and 3rd base for R2. 1st and 3rd with 2 outs.

@@Libertarian_Neighbor That’s silly. That means if a fly ball is hit to the wall, and the fielder knows he has a weak arm and no hope of throwing home in time, he can just put the ball in his pocket and the inner is just awarded the next base?

I was thinking he’ll have literal nightmares about it for years to come.

Imagine being the catcher. 🤦‍♂️

That catcher will never forget it either.

I actually felt bad for him. He's helpless nobody is listening or realizes that they haven't won anything yet but him.

69th like, giggity

Pressure situations are tough for some people. This proves that.

Greg Norman at the Masters type collapse....

It's the only way he could be a champ that day 💀

Yeah, he did everything he could, and then just let it go.

My heart aches for him. You know hes devastated by how emotional he was while trying to ppl to pay attention and you see him looking for the ball. Man….I feel broken for that kid.

Btw, I was also a second baseman.

He wasn't the only one someone was shouting "there's only 2 outs "

And that’s the most important reason for youth sports, so it’s perfect

That catcher was so dumb, because he was aware the umpire called him safe but just ignored it, and then he doesn't listen to a couple of his teammates telling him to take the ball out of his pocket.

..from which I guarantee you few will learn, including coaches.

yup

whats the lesson? the catcher obviously did it on purpose

. . . although continuing to run beyond 2nd base was a mistake. His run was meaningless, and by being off base, he could have been tagged for the third out before the two runners ahead of him scored. Running to 2nd would have been the correct thing had the 2nd runner been held on third as that would have eliminated a force play at 2nd base on the subsequent batter. In any event, that will have to go down as the biggest bonehead play of that catcher's life. Let's hope anyway.

don't even try that.

@@jhandle4196 Seriously! Not too baseball savvy are you? The batter has coaches, sometimes experienced teammates, at first and third telling him to run or stay. They knew what was up and kept him running. No risk!!

Actually, that’s bad Umpire mechanics as well. When the tag is applied and he misses the tag the Umpire needs to give that safe sign just like a banger not a half ass safe sign. This is the most important play the game.

​@@jsalt40you can see catcher isn't arguing he tagged him. He's trying to argue that there's a guy in first so the rule doesnt apply. He keeps pointing to first and he never tries to get the runner out. I'm not even sure he really tried to tag him. He's so focused on pointing to first and then just takes it for granted that he's right and goes to celebrate. If he really believed the runner could take first and the other runners advance then he would have seen the ump shake is head and signal safe and thrown to literally anywhere.

It's a easy rule to understand if it's a 3rd strike and the catcher drops the ball its a live ball ..

@@kingshit420w Did I say I didn't understand it? No I said I didn't understand why it was a rule in the first place and why it was kept. Keep up.

@@vh8542 oh jeez my bad bro

Actually I’ve been a die hard baseball fan my entire life, I am 57 years old, and I still don’t understand why this rule exists, but it’s still the rule in every level of baseball. I should also say that while it doesn’t happen in every game, it actually occurs more than people realize. (The dropped 3rd strike.) It’s just that 99% of the time, the batter is either tagged out or the catcher throws to first, it would never end this way. This is probably more information than you want, but I have seen a few times where the batter makes it to 1st base before the throw, in which case he is safe and the inning continues, but again, never like this. It’s a weird rule I really don’t like, but to your point, it can create some excitement from time to time.

I'd say it's that the defense needs to control the ball for an out to be recorded. Just like the first baseman needs to catch the ball at first to record an out.

Gives me a clue how and why the team so expertly choked.

this is what i was saying. everyone is gonna blame the catcher (and yes, it was his fault for not making the right play) but this is ultimately a reflection of poor coaching.

@@paulpinball9952 I can tell your comment game is well coached...I even got a bit choked up in admiration.

No they weren't, that was a player. The coaches didn't come over until after the winning run crossed.

​@@paulpinball9952 except this comment isn't true at all. The coaches didn't arrive until after the winning run was scored. Try watching it for yourself once.

Yes, but the bases were not loaded on this play. There were just runners on 1st and 2nd, so stepping on home plate wouldn’t have done him any good

@@pauljones6212 Yes, you're correct. But simply holding the ball at the plate would have mitigated any further damage. No out would have been recorded, but no runs would have scored.

Same thing I was thinking. The catcher knew what was going on and looked back to the ump for assurance. The ump said safe while the catcher was looking at him and then the catcher just starts celebrating.

@@jordanmadden7388 And then later, once he realized what was happening, the catcher looks back at the ump and makes the “safe” sign himself! What does he think that gesture means?!

​@@bernier42 he probably thought the ref wanted to say "game over"

He clearly thought the ump was confirming it was safe to celebrate.

The kid looked back at the ump & confused the call... Not rocket science

Thanks for watching!

I’m curious if that’s 2 RBIs

@Stephen Adams I don't believe so. Walks and hit by pitches to my understanding aren't runs batted in, to bat in a run is to put the ball in play and score a run as a result of a hit or sacrifice.

@@rileyesmay I believe it's scored as a strikeout and an error on the catcher and therefore no RBIs

@@rileyesmay A walk is certainly an RBI, that much I know

@@IHateNicolasCage You are correct. Just looked it up on MLB. All errors and double plays do not count as RBI's, everything else does. I would assume this would be an error on the catcher and hence no RBI's

I think the catcher did know, he was posturing up to throw and said "Naw, let's jump up and down."

He knew if 1st base was occupied the batter couldn’t run with 1 out . He failed to know that if there is 2 outs an 1st base is occupied the runner an batter can run to force a play !

@@cisnerosd84 When I was a youngster, I played base ball (2 words) and watched it on TV (The great Curt Gowdy announcing) and learned rules by watching. I suspect these youngsters play video games, which I understand fully, and don’t know a lot of rules, but they made it to Jom Boy (2 words)!!!!!!

I've always been very thankful that I finished high school right around the time social media/smart phones started becoming a thing. Like there were maybe 3-4 kids in my class that had a cellphone by the time I graduated high school....just a few years later, and every kid started getting smartphones. I'm thankful none of my stupid thing I did, were caught on camera and posted on the internet for thousands, tens of thousands or millions of people to see (not JUST sports either lol).

I had $30 and went all in, two guys had a side pot for a few hundred. AT SHOWDOWN: *I yelled like **#JessePinkman* _(Yeah B🤬🤬ch!)_ *slammed my cards in excitement* …and _ONE CARD_ *slightly* touched the muck. *THEY CALLED MY HAND DEAD.* 💔 It’s $90 but that hand *HAUNTS ME* like a wish fulfilled curse by my worst enemy, who requested a *psychological* low level voodoo curse that would HURT ME but not INJURE ME the rest of my life❗️

Was his name Bob Sacamano?

@@neilwoller Art Vandalay

I had the same reaction. All I can think is that he looked over, confirmed there was a runner at first, and forgot about the two outs thing ... otherwise, who knows?

I think the catcher feels like or knows he tagged the runner and assumed the game was over. Maybe the ump didn't see the tag so it's not over. As another commentator stated, it should be a tie game after the catcher put the all out of play (in his pocket.) It's like an overthrow into the stands for example, the runners all can advance one base only. The ump fucked up. Should have been tie game runners 2nd and third, next batter up.

@@krissantana4660 So everytime they can just pocket to ball to avoid having runners only advance 1 base, seems abusable, I mean, in what way is it out of play? Its litterally in his pocket where he put it himself, can just take it out again.

@@krissantana4660 I think that's usually 2 bases from where the runners are at the time it's out of play, so I think the winning run would be in anyway. But also I'd doubt someone putting it in their pocket would count as 'out of play' he can easily access the ball.

@@krissantana4660 No the umps called it correct.

Exactly

Hey hey! Ho ho! That dropped-3rd-strike-rule has got to go!

@@mylesmarkson1686 ABSOLUTELY NOT. It's just another reason why it's the perfect game, Abner thought of everything. Even 60 ft and 60.6 have held up remarkably well for more than 100 years despite the increases in size strength and speed. "Baseball, Ray. It was baseball...."

@@paineintheass233 Hey hey! Ho ho! 3 strikes you're out, so hit the road!

I think your right. I assumed the catcher thought he made the tag (but, even though you can’t possibly tell from the only angle available) it sure doesn’t look like he did. But I think you’re spot on - he thought with a runner on one it was an automatic out. He forgot that half the rules in baseball contain the phrase “except if there are two down”!

There's no RBI on an uncaught third strike.

Technically not a home run cause the batters own run would not count even though he touched home plate. There were runners on first and second, so the game score would have ended 6-5.

a Walk Off, inside the Park Strikeout...to win the Championship. 🙃

@@SmedleyButlerIII I was something I always simulated as a kid,

LOL! Did they also ask you about your strike zones and if it was 1" off the plate and way inside, if that was a strike?

@@DAD0123 lmao

Um, aren't the mechanics for a dropped third strike the same for everyone? Or do umpires get to make up their own rules from game to game?

@@Durwood71 'mechanics' refers to gestures, voicings, etc. How the umpire signals the call. It does not refer to the rules, the rules are the same.

Except for the second baseman, he was the only one who didn't celebrate a victory.

It took me a while to understand. Two outs and a dropped third strike you must throw them out no matter what bases are occupied. Less then two outs you only have to throw to first if first base is empty, otherwise it could be a “cheap double play” since the runner on first would have to run to second and if first and second are occupied the runner on second has no chance to make it home and if bases are loaded all the catcher would have to is pick up the ball tag home and throw to third for two easy outs.

How have you watched something that long and don’t know the rules? I didn’t play baseball growing up and am really not much of a fan of watching it on TV, and even I knew that rule.

@@CaliBorn73 Thank you for your constructive participation. You sound like you’re a lot better than I will ever aspire to be.

@@DougMacRay It's literally something that was taught at the little league level And maybe your time would be better served by actively learning about the things you enjoy instead of making comments and replies on the internet. But you do you, chief.

@@CaliBorn73 I never said I played Little League, varsity, college or AAA. I’ve just played pick up games all my life at at the recreational level. Rare occurrences like the dropped third strike, balks etc are never enforced in that context. I can tell your a man whose easily offended and triggered when you don’t get things your way. To make you feel like you accomplished something here, I’m going to give all your comments Thumbs Up to help your self esteem, as it’s clear you have none. Oh, never made Chief. I was boots-on-the-ground for my thirty-one years of service doing the work you ordered me to do. Cheers from Boston ☘️ * Edited 06/06/2023. To make content more inclusive to those who were offended by my lack of knowledge of the rules of baseball.

An inside the park homerun isn't as rare as it sounds. An inside the baseline homerun, however...

Yeah, that’s a ball all day…

@@ericsimonson8540 In high school umps tend to have a more liberals strike zone

High school strike zones were wild. Good on this kid. Don't argue, just run.

Juuuuuust a bit inside

​@@petebreadwards8737 pretty much of the catcher could get to it without looking like he was off-balance it was a strike

I believe he meant not to call them out for their stupidity as he had to show us what happened in detail.

😂😂😂

I don't think the catcher was acting like he tagged the batter. When he pointed to first base, I think he was indicating (might have even said) that there's a runner on first. He thought that the uncaught third strike rule wasn't in effect because of the runner on first, but he was wrong due to the fact that there were 2 outs.

​@@roughrider3591 Now it makes more sense. Thank you.

This is the last out of a championship game. Tensions are high and the catcher just just got a bit a head of him self and celebrated to early. Life lesson for sure.

@@roughrider3591 exactly what i think also. That's why you hear them screaming 2 outs it is in reference to with 2 outs it doesn't matter if the base is occupied.

Probably thought the ump was signaling game over

@@MultisportOfficial Is that a thing? I mean, I have no better guess but…

​@@bernier42The kid looked back at the ump & just confused the call

@@bernier42 The game over signal does look somewhat similar to a safe call. The umpire will make 2 fists then bring them to his chest and then back out almost as if making a safe call. The umpire could have been more deliberate with his safe call in this situation.

That isnt so much a SAFE sign at that point as it is a DECLINED or NOT SUCCESSFUL sign. Its used that way on appeal for a check swing, or if an appeal is made to a base. The umpire was acknowledging a tag was not successfully made, not that anyone was safe.

It's not a weird rule at all. I hate the game and even I was aware of that one.

I’m guessing the catcher thought he completed the tag and the umpire missed it. But you should always just throw to 1st just in case. Especially if you don’t hear the umpire call the runner out.

Nope they aren't there to coach. He signaled to the catcher he didn't have a tag and the catcher ignored it. The umps did exactly what they were supposed to do imo

Blue called this one correctly & clearly.

hockey blows

There's no stupid rules in hockey that overcomplicate things like this. Baseball is a trash game.

@@isthatujeebus the rules may not be as confusing, but there are so many examples that players, fans, and coaches can’t grasp. Try explaining to coaches why a player can’t come out of the box when a penalty expires when they have three penalties and let them know the first player comes out when the second is done, the second player comes out when the last penalty is done, and the last player has to wait for a whistle. I’ve had coaches threaten me with violence because they don’t grasp the concept. Or try explaining that just because a player falls from contact with a stick, it isn’t tripping. If the player is making a play on the puck and is touching the puck with his stick, it’s not a tripping penalty if the other player trips over the stick.

@@WowOafus lol, fair point. That 3 penalty thing is because you can only go down to 3 men on the ice and if the first player comes back on at the end of his penalty they would only be one man down despite still having two guys in the box, right?

Baseball sucks 😂😂

What's a Jomboy?

it’s in one of his weekly dumb videos, but it does not have a breakdown yet.

@@gothard5 weekly dumb? What are you talking about?

As someone who just started watching baseball, I think everyone should get a trophy.

​@@josephmiller4616 I think only the red team should.

Very interesting! I was wondering about that

I wouldn't call it the way you describe. The rule you quote about the ball out of play covers when the ball is inadvertently put out of play, like the ball over thrown into the stands or the ball is lodged in some in accessible place. Intentionally holding the ball by the catcher is not the same thing. For all intents and purposes, he is still in control of the play and play should not be stopped by the umpire because the ball is still available. How this played out is exactly the right call on the part of this umpire. The defensive team still has the ball to put back into play but they don't. Everyone should be allowed to advance as far as they can. In this case the bases are cleared. I don't get the coaches arguing with the umpire. If they want to yell at anyone, gather their team around, except the second baseman, and rip them a new one for being idiots. Then learn to actually coach your team about the rules of the game.

I too wondered about Detached Equipment when I heard him say catcher put it in his back pocket, but I think I agree with @cdjhyoung..never really seen a play where they intentionally Detached Equipment to Allow the other team to score 😆 at that point....it's on you dude. Just tag one of these guys running the bases and lets all get outta here

I'm not sure they didn't know the rule tbh. Looked more like the kid confused the umps call & when he started to celebrate they all just followed suit

The second baseman on the losing team definitely knew the rule.

@@camicawber They all did It seemed more like he misread the call & they followed suit celebrating

You don't make it to state w/o good coaching. Just one gigantic brain fart.

They clearly know the rules. The catcher tried to tag the hitter and then looked at the ump. For some reason the catcher didnt comprehend that the ump signaled safe

@@paddyb456 That was the dagger for sure but have you seen the whole bottom inning? The errors were brutal.

The ball in his pocket was live the whole time.

@@AEMoreira81 yes it was!

He wanted a championship souvenir. What he got was a toxic reminder to his own game-losing error. That sucks.

@@JohnL-qe4pi I do feel bad for the young man.

I just hope the 2nd baseman calls the catcher every name in the book

How would you turn a double play with two outs?

@@andrewlittle3137 He means if there was zero or one out and a runner on first, the catcher could deliberately drop the 3rd strike, then go to 2nd for the force (now that the runner has to vacate first to allow the batter to run there) and then to 1st for the double play. As he says, same as the infield fly rule. So by not making it mandatory to tag the batter on a dropped 3rd strike with less than 2 outs, this situation is eliminated.

Exactly. In MLB just this week, guy on first with one out. Line drive to the shortstop, who deliberately dropped the ball, threw to second and then over to first for a double play. Umpire called the batter out and put the runner back to first.

@@adamcoe bingo! thank you Adam for elaborating

You're the only person besides me (when memorializing the late Howard Cosell) who says, "an unique," so cheers on that! These are high-schoolers, so they will be voting before we know it. It's all becoming clearer to me now.

The catcher is the leader of the defense, not the pitcher....The cat her runs the field and makes the calls....An epic mistake

No i played sports since age 4. I always knew the rules, I was that second baseman. These are not "children"... If the 2nd baseman has a brain they all do. Lmao🤣 stop trying to protect idiotic and dumb plays.

@@paulpinball9952 I think you’re far from rare in saying/writing “an unique”. It seems most people are taught to use “an” when the following word starts with a vowel. That’s not the rule though… you use “an” when the following word starts with a vowel _sound_. So you should write “a unique” (since unique starts with a consonant sound… “younique”). Similarly it should be “an hour” since the h in hour is silent.

Yeah I also was wondering about that. I thought first base had to be open.

Ditto.

It's amazing that after more than a century and hundreds of thousands of games, we can still see something in baseball that we've never seen before.

@@avlisk Very true!!

Certainly one team had white and/or gray jerseys. This should not have been permitted.

I was thinking that it was a shame the bases weren't loaded. An inside the park grand slam on a strikeout would've been hilarious

@@bigmac51290 yeah, that would have been incredible ⚾️