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Channel Dash by Battleship Scharnhorst & Gneisenau 1942 Animated 

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The Channel Dash of 1942, also known as Operation Cerberus, was a daring and successful naval operation by the German Navy during World War II. The operation involved the evacuation of three powerful German warships, the battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, and the heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen, from their base in Brest, France, to Germany.
The Channel Dash was a significant achievement for the Germans, as it allowed them to avoid being trapped in Brest by the British Royal Navy. The operation began on February 11, 1942, when the German ships slipped out of the harbor and made their way through the English Channel, with the support of Luftwaffe bombers and fighters.
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@dwaynehicks6838
@dwaynehicks6838 2 года назад
Just been recommended by histograph channel , good video.
@ChaosMongrel
@ChaosMongrel 2 года назад
Same here! Found this channel that way too. Made sure to subscribe. Looking forward to future videos!
@kevin9392
@kevin9392 2 года назад
I was already very familiar with this operation so I actually came here to check the quality of the video and find out if it was worth subscribing. Let's just say I was so pleased with the quality, I watched it to the very end despite knowing the entire story already. Subscriber count: +1
@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis
@DidMyGrandfatherMakeThis 2 года назад
Seconded.
@juhopuhakka2351
@juhopuhakka2351 Год назад
Was there not somekind of duel between British and German coastal artillery?
@rudolphguarnacci197
@rudolphguarnacci197 9 месяцев назад
The top commentor approves.
@derekweiland1857
@derekweiland1857 2 года назад
This channel has 600 subscribers? it should be in the millions range. What an incredibly well put together video.
@TheWarline
@TheWarline 2 года назад
Thank you
@tfs203
@tfs203 2 года назад
No Kidding!
@wardasz
@wardasz Год назад
Probably cose there are other, older and vastly popular (and in some aspect better) videos about those topics. About Channel Dash specificly there are great videos by Operation Room and BuzBattles. Btw, this one look suspiciously symilar to Buz's one.
@onlythewise1
@onlythewise1 Год назад
why illegals don't care about gringo
@emretasdemir8028
@emretasdemir8028 Год назад
Yes, very high effort videos
@ronnelson7828
@ronnelson7828 Год назад
The British submarine Sealy-un!?! It's Sea-Lion!
@wahwahweewa
@wahwahweewa Год назад
Ya, and Boulogne isn't Bologna either!
@NeedlessPedantics
@NeedlessPedantics Год назад
Tee-Pits...no it's pronounced Tur-puhts
@AndrewGivens
@AndrewGivens Год назад
Wow, boys - calm down. - Here to add to these pronunciation critiques: quality video, presenting a very accessible explanation of this thrilling wartime episode. Good script and graphics.
@Muesli711
@Muesli711 11 месяцев назад
Frisian was another one
@davefb
@davefb 9 месяцев назад
AI innit.
@viesturslevada8554
@viesturslevada8554 2 года назад
Here to make a shoutout to Historigraph for showing Your channel. Much respect for You and Your work! Very enjoyable and a wonderful job done! Instant subscriber.
@luxin6235
@luxin6235 2 года назад
Came here from historiograph!
@thomasthurman7840
@thomasthurman7840 Год назад
Poor Prinz Eugen... Survived the entire war only to die to a nuclear blast
@clawsewitz4316
@clawsewitz4316 10 месяцев назад
Why didn't they sail around the horn of Africa?
@TheInternetBanana
@TheInternetBanana 2 года назад
I love the video but I spotted that your map may be more recent because of the coastline of the Netherlands. Keep up the good work!
@RBuckminsterFuller
@RBuckminsterFuller Год назад
Never have I heard such a British voice mispronounce Sealion in such a hilarious way. Good video otherwise.
@novacolonel5287
@novacolonel5287 Год назад
Lovely narration and animation, and I honestly applaud your approach of butchering French, English and German city and ship names alike.
@kulturfreund6631
@kulturfreund6631 10 месяцев назад
I actually think the pronunciation was quite good. Except maybe for the city of Wilhelmshaven, which sounded like "Wilhelmshown". I suppose this is an artificial computer generated voice. Maybe it's programmed or follows the name "Copenhagen" as a role model, which in Danish is written "København" and pronounced "Koebenhown". The V in Wilhelmshaven (literally: Williamsport /Williamshaven) is pronounced as F. Side note: The V in German and Dutch words and names of Germanic origin is pronounced as F . Examples: Vater (father), Vogel (bird), vier (four), vorbei (over, past), Volk (people, the people, folk), Hannover (Hanover), von Bismarck, van Beethoven, Amstelveen (Dutch town), Bremerhaven (coastal city, port of Bremen) ... Whereas the V in German words of Latin/Romance origin is pronounced as V. Like: Variation (variation), violett (violet), Vibration, Viktor/Viktoria (personal names), Vakanz (vacancy), Lavendel (lavender) etc.
@AndrewGivens
@AndrewGivens Год назад
Much as people like to talk about "blah blah, German strategic defeat" , "blah blah running away / retreating", while extolling the heroism of the British units which were sent piecemeal as part of the 'plans' for Fuller, I simply cannot fault the German operations in either planning or execution. 'Cerberus' is rightly viewed as a brilliant operation by the Germans.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
Do you know who firdst called the Channel Dash a German Strategic Defeat? Some chap called Erich Raeder. I suggest that he was in a position to know.
@parthin
@parthin Год назад
Prinz Eugen was a lucky ship that survived the war. It was destroyed in a post-war atomic bomb test.
@mattg432
@mattg432 11 месяцев назад
Two nuclear bombs, and Prinz Eugen is still partially above water.
@swervsplatt9672
@swervsplatt9672 10 месяцев назад
No, it wasn't, because nukes don't exist.
@swervsplatt9672
@swervsplatt9672 10 месяцев назад
I don't care what you memorized from school, or what you watched on TV. Because that's all you have for proof.
@ethical3429
@ethical3429 2 года назад
Incredible content. waiting impatiently for more.(thanks historygraph)
@tfs203
@tfs203 2 года назад
This channel needs far more exposure + appreciation!
@legallyblind393
@legallyblind393 2 года назад
Your back! I’m so glad. I hope you do get more recognition.
@TheWarline
@TheWarline 2 года назад
thank you for your support..
@peterjarvis9367
@peterjarvis9367 Год назад
The account is good, but does not mention that Bletchley Park had decrypted the co-ordinates of the swept channel past Terschelling, which enabled the RAF to drop mines into the swept channel and thus damage both battlecruisers. Scharnhorst took months to repair and my recollection is that Gneisenau was bombed while on a floating dock at Kiel so that she was never used again in anger. I defer to better information.
@finnanutyo1153
@finnanutyo1153 2 года назад
" Mom I want The Operations Room!" "We have The Operations Room at home" *THE OPERATIONS ROOM AT HOME :*
@xsh4dowfallx
@xsh4dowfallx 2 года назад
I was gonna say BazBattles but that's fair too
@jonathonparker1532
@jonathonparker1532 Год назад
I love the history of battleships. Respect for all the captains regardless of nation or reasoning. Absolutely amazing marvels of war technology.
@Hiryur
@Hiryur Год назад
lol Gneisenau got bismarck’d, when bismarck got bismarck’d
@anthonyiocca5683
@anthonyiocca5683 Год назад
That German task force cruised the English Channel taunting the Brits to do something about it…
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
By which I assume you mean that the three German heavy ships fled back to Germany under a massive air umbrella, abandoned any future possibility of operating in the Atlantic, and thus played almost no part in the rest of the war, Admiral Raeder declared the Dash a major strategic reversal. He was correct.
@anthonyiocca5683
@anthonyiocca5683 Год назад
@@dovetonsturdee7033 A risky dash, torpedos and mines made it to risky…
@spencerderosier6649
@spencerderosier6649 2 года назад
Scharnhorst and her sister had battleship armor. Even thicker than the French dunkerque class. (Which were proclaimed battleships.) But their guns were vastly inferior to battleships by WWII. Some would say this makes them a propriety class. Others say that since they were meant to murder cruisers and run from battleships. This makes their roll that of battlecruisers. And therefore battlecrusiers they are..... In Truth, At the end of the day you can call them whenever you want.
@michaeld.uchiha9084
@michaeld.uchiha9084 2 года назад
Germany just called them Battleships because germany never run the name battlecruiser. In Germany a battlecruiser like ship is named a Großkreuzer (Big Cruiser). It was planned to make a retrofit on the Scharnhorst class with 3×2 380mm guns. Never happend because the war started to early and not as planned 1949.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 2 года назад
They were fast battleships, just with relatively small guns.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 2 года назад
@@michaeld.uchiha9084 Germany had loads of battlecruisers, up until Jutland anyway...
@535phobos
@535phobos 2 года назад
@@tomriley5790 Well, they werent officially called Battlecruisers. For fiscal reasons. They were Big Cruisers (Große Kreuzer), just like the Armored Cruisers before. On the same note, officially Germany didnt have Battleships (Schlachtschiffe) until, well, Scharnhorst and Gneisenau came around. All before were Ships of the Line (Linienschiffe, Pre-Dread) or Big Ships of the Line (Großlinienschiffe, Dreadnoughts, so Nassau to Bayern) Inoffically the crew etc still called them Battleships /-cruisers, cause thats what they were.
@hannesromhild8532
@hannesromhild8532 Год назад
Even thicker then the Dunkerque does not mean much. The Twins had a really strong Beltarmour with a decent Turtleback as backup. The Gund are also not too bad. They really performed quite well for the caliber. Penetration and range clearly make them capital ship guns. The mission profile for the Twins also was not cruiser killing but to oppose the Dunkerques. That makes them Battleships and they are classified as such.
@princessofthecape2078
@princessofthecape2078 Год назад
Even if they despised the Nazis, the British had to at least appreciate the Nelson-like boldness associated with the Channel Run.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
Except Nelson never fled.
@javieralarcon1485
@javieralarcon1485 4 месяца назад
6-5-24. 12.47.p.m. 22' Saludos internautas, uno mas que se suma a las fila.lei sobre la operacion cerbero, en los 70, en una obra de coleccion. " ASI FUE LA 2DA GM" y lo percibi con emocion y romantisismo, ahora que he visto este video, comprendo lo que la narracion describia, ((( si pudieras describir, las batallas y contrabatallas de rhize, diciembre, 41 a octubre, 42, graficarlo, ahhhh, tambien lo de las colinas de mamayek, ((( stalingrado: setiembre: 42, gracias.....saludos internautas, ...firmes y erguidos.
@MALITH666
@MALITH666 Год назад
I love this mission. It was so bold, mad and straight to the point. Plus succeeded.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
Indeed. A successful strategic calamity for the Germans, effectively signalling the end of their surface fleet as a relevant factor in the war.
@MALITH666
@MALITH666 Год назад
@@dovetonsturdee7033 It was ending anyway. Germany was running out of fuel therefore Naval fleet was always on the clock. Plus US comiting to carriers fully broke/changed Naval warfare and rendered all these fleets useless.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
@@MALITH666 'Plus US comiting to carriers fully broke/changed Naval warfare and rendered all these fleets useless.' Really? Perhaps you might explain the importance of US carriers in the naval war against Germany?
@MALITH666
@MALITH666 Год назад
@@dovetonsturdee7033 They didnt have to. Its a case of 'even if Germany managed to have a surface fleet'. American partners, the British, succesfully did that with their fleet air arm. Which is the prelude for the this mission. 1940 aircrafts were far too great deterrent than the biggest battleship.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
@@MALITH666 Which German warships, or come to that Italian warships, were either sunk, or even crippled, by Fleet Air Arm aircraft?
@HoH
@HoH Год назад
This was really good, I thoroughly enjoyed it!
@TheWarline
@TheWarline Год назад
I'm glad you enjoyed it
@qzwxecrv0192837465
@qzwxecrv0192837465 Год назад
Radio silence. Had the fighters been able to call back position, the Germans might possible have been stopped at the choke point. Well done Britain
@crisespinoza1979
@crisespinoza1979 Год назад
Such a dash that made the British look very incompetent. "Fotune favors the bold". It certainly did so her
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
No. It made the Royal Air Force look incompetent.
@noahj.1232
@noahj.1232 2 года назад
Wonderful graphics and narration. Please continue making videos! You will get the recognition you deserve soon.
@TheWarline
@TheWarline 2 года назад
Thank you
@DerDude1977
@DerDude1977 Год назад
Without the then new excellent FW 190 fighter aircrat and a still intact Luftwaffe and without being quite lucky during Cerberus the operation also could have been a desaster for the German Military. They even were lucky that the mines didn't destroy vital parts of the Battlecruisers or even sank them. And after the success of Cerberus Gneisenau didn't play any role any more and Scharnhorst as well didn't achieve much of tactical or strategic value. Yes, the operation was a success. But not a longterm success. Only Eugen did a good job for the German Military in the last year of the war in the Baltic Sea. But that's it. Would there have been an alternative to Cerberus? I am not sure. But it was clear from Cerberus on at the latest that the Kriegsmarine couldn't stand a chance against the Royal Navy. Only U-Boats and E-Boats were still partly successful in the last three years of the war, and maybe some other small vessels or the "Elbing Class" Torpedo Boats which were in fact more like a mix between destroyers and destroyer escorts. But for a huge price to pay, especially when it comes to U-Boats in the Atlantic ocean. And as well as they did in the early years until maybe even 1943 the casualties on their own side could not replace the aces of the early years. The U-Boats didn't stand a chance until late 1943 at the latest. Type XXI came to late and materials didn't have the desired quality any more. It was nearly the same with the "Königstiger". In theory it had was great and very well armoured. But the steel Germany than could produce didn't fit quality standards any more. And there more and more was the problem of too few new soldiers and the problems with raw materials and crude oil. Without an effective "Luftwaffe" Germany couldn't have a chance any more, although more and more weapons were produced throughout the war despite the massive bombing campaign against germany. But you need good quality raw materials, good workers and good fuel for a huge army to be successful. Although most soldiers especially in the east fought hard against the overwhelming masses the Soviets fielded to protect their families and caused more casualties in the last two years of the war then before, there wasn't any way to win the war for them. Especially not when the USA entered the war in Europe actively. Back then it was better for for the average German soldier of the Wehrmacht, who seldom was a Nazi, to surrender to the British or Americans than to the Soviets, who as well as Germans comitted many many war crimes (- when it comes to rape, maybe even more.) where many of their soldiers were involved. War ist always bad. And actually I don't trust any side, when it comes to the war in the Ukraine. Most soldiers are poor young people who have no choice but to fight in the army of their country, always. The really extreme and bad people never have the majority. So I hope this craziness ends soon in a good way for the people. I am not a fan of US-Politics atm, I am not a fan of Soviet or Russian politics, I don't trust Selensky and the German government atm is a bad joke. Just stop that shit. Or if they want it then the politicians should go and fight each other. But leave the people in peace!
@davidasher8718
@davidasher8718 10 месяцев назад
This is terrific. The channel dash was always one of my favorite world war maneuvers
@mikepowell2776
@mikepowell2776 Год назад
Excellent, detailed exposition with good, simple and clear graphics. Information is mainly accurate as well. My only criticism is that some of the translations are a little too direct and need to be corrected into English idiom. Good to hear a non-transAtlantic accent and a clear voice. I look forward to the next one.
@Ansset0
@Ansset0 Год назад
Info should not be mainly accurate. Either it is or not. In second case one should not spread it having a YT channel.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 2 года назад
Well conducted operation by the Germans and to be frank incompetence by the RAF and RN, most of the MTBs had petrol engines by the way and were prone to catching fire and exploding catstrophically. Even so it strategically to my mind feels like a failure - "We have well strategically positioned warships - I know genius idea we'll move them to somewhere where they're less of a threat! Victory!" That said Scharnhorst and Gneisenau don't seem to ever have managed to go to sea without breaking or flooding something. Incidentally Ark Royal is spelt Ark (not Arc)
@Serby665
@Serby665 Год назад
Brave men. Join the Kriegsmarine. Enjoy glorious cowering in fear and covering your ships in smoke to hide from hundreds of allied bombers. Pray for a chance to sortie from port to try and hunt merchant ships, and run away as far as possible whenever a sign of allied ships is spotted.
@michaelreifenstein2114
@michaelreifenstein2114 2 года назад
Heinz Knoke in his book, I flew for the Führer, described the operation from his position flying cover for part of the dash. The Germans were able to.maintain silence until swordfish appeared, them the typical Luftwaffe radio chaos ensued with everybody talking all over each other. He seemed to feel German pilots were a bit excitable when in combat.
@thomaslinton5765
@thomaslinton5765 Год назад
Channel Dash by BattleshipS Scharnhorst & Gneisenau
@FiveSkitsAtFreddys
@FiveSkitsAtFreddys Год назад
Amazing video, always so interesting to see the Ugly Sisters in action.
@ethanchang6417
@ethanchang6417 2 года назад
So happy I found this channel by accident, keep up the good work! Can’t wait to watch more of your videos!
@marksingleton7199
@marksingleton7199 Год назад
I was reading a biography of Nelson in shop where Commander Fanning came in. Happy to see some one interested in Naval History he offered his copies of Nelsons letters for me to read. I was told after he left that he had been awarded the D.S.C. Commander Fanning returned with a huge book and I asked about his medal. He said that he had been a navigator whilst chasing the Prince Eugene and Gneisenau and that the government had dished out some medals and his name was pulled out of hat to recieve a medal. When you think of the responsibility of of these young men, I feel very humble.
@marksingleton7199
@marksingleton7199 Год назад
@freebeerfordworkers I understand. Yet he navigated a flotilla of ships and therefore had thousands of lives to look after. One of those very young men who took on huge responsibility. I respect them all.
@kulturfreund6631
@kulturfreund6631 10 месяцев назад
Hi there, just to be precise: The name of the ship was >Prinz Eugen< .
@Tomtiedom12
@Tomtiedom12 2 года назад
Historiograph brought me here. Excellent channel, you're looking at some serious growth in the near future. High quality video.
@TheWarline
@TheWarline 2 года назад
Wow, thank you!
@moistmike4150
@moistmike4150 Год назад
Wow! That WW2 must've been terrifying for all those involved. I'm just glad no one got hurt.
@melangellatc1718
@melangellatc1718 11 месяцев назад
Nope, no casualties during the whole war!
@jamesoliver6625
@jamesoliver6625 Год назад
To not include Rodney in the graphic regarding sinking Bismarck is criminal.
@BA-gn3qb
@BA-gn3qb 2 года назад
Everyone knows all these ships and their escorts escaped along with some funny mustached guy to Argentina. The Scharnhorst hitting 52 mines along the way.
@AllthingsWW2
@AllthingsWW2 Год назад
This is fantastic!
@Itz_Shadow66
@Itz_Shadow66 Год назад
This is the most underrated channel ever, good luck man, earned a sub :)
@mjograus8800
@mjograus8800 Год назад
It is usually American commentators who say THE HMS. It is simply HMS otherwise you are saying The His Majesty's Ship.
@Squeeonline
@Squeeonline Год назад
The more I watch this video, the more I'm convinced it's read by a bot, who's reading a script with typos in. Clearly at one point the narrator says "petrol line", rather than "Patrol line" which left me very confused.
@NYCamper62
@NYCamper62 Год назад
There was also some electronic / radio deception conducted just prior to the dash.
2 года назад
Also came in by a recommendation. Maybe you'll get a lot of new subscribers now :)
@Docwilson91
@Docwilson91 2 года назад
Found this channel by accident, but I’m glad I did. Great story telling and animation.
@annoyingbstard9407
@annoyingbstard9407 Год назад
Seems odd to spend a fortune on trying to build a worthwhile navy…then spend the entire war running away or hiding.
@svr5agarwal478
@svr5agarwal478 2 года назад
Came here from historiograph
@tigerland4328
@tigerland4328 10 месяцев назад
Good video i enjoyed it 👍 however a few mistakes in the wording. its not "the HMS Hood" or "The bomber command" its just "HMS hood" and "bomber command". Also the official name of the navy of the UK is "the Royal navy" not "the British navy"
@dennissolomon455
@dennissolomon455 Год назад
How on earth did Britain win the war
@timteevin4517
@timteevin4517 Год назад
Not bad, but marred by mispronounciation of names. SEALION, SEA LION. etc...
@chrisst8922
@chrisst8922 Год назад
Tippitz
@MmmGallicus
@MmmGallicus 3 месяца назад
So, by 1942, the English hadn't figured out the proper use of dive bombers and torpedo bombers against ships.
@joshuahollister4648
@joshuahollister4648 Год назад
It's just 'HMS' not, 'The HMS'. As HMS stands for His/Her Majesty's Ship, having 'The' in front just doesn't make sense. e.g. 'The His Majesty's Ship'
@looinrims
@looinrims 2 года назад
“Both of these were battlecruisers” Oh boy you just caused a firestorm
@Cobra-King3
@Cobra-King3 2 года назад
I rather call them Undergunned Battleships, but Also agree with the term Battlectuiser
@alphamaccao5224
@alphamaccao5224 Год назад
Nah, they are battlecruisers in role and usage.
@hannesromhild8532
@hannesromhild8532 Год назад
@@alphamaccao5224 Not at all. The intend was to counter the Dunkerque class. That makes them Battleships.
@studentjohn35
@studentjohn35 Год назад
Operation Cerberus was just about the only time in the entire war that German ships proceeded at sea with proper air cover. Perhaps their freinds in japan talked some sense into them.
@lievenmoelants
@lievenmoelants Год назад
great graphics, and well told 😊
@jamesmuller3807
@jamesmuller3807 Год назад
Could have sworn some fella named Galland played an active role in the dash.
@STRAYGAMING
@STRAYGAMING 2 года назад
Very good video loved the detail and style
@TheWarline
@TheWarline 2 года назад
Thanks so much!
@Memeo.
@Memeo. 2 года назад
Wow this channel deserves atleast 100k subs with content like this
@TheWarline
@TheWarline 2 года назад
Wow, thanks!
@ppumpkin3282
@ppumpkin3282 Год назад
130 bombers couldn't hit these two ships in their dock. They needed dive bombers. What about having a sub sitting outside of Brest? Looks like the British needed better search patterns.
@chkoha6462
@chkoha6462 2 года назад
Came here by recommendation.good video,hats off
@leceeper9370
@leceeper9370 15 дней назад
Scharnhorst and Gneisenau arent Battlecruisers they were Battleships due to the thick Armor
@ukmediawarrior
@ukmediawarrior Год назад
It seems there is some debate over whether you pronounce the 'G' in Gneisenau. I have always been taught it was a silent G by professors I learned under for Modern History, but some channels on YT seem to believe you do say the G making it an awkward word to speak.
@stephenoneill245
@stephenoneill245 10 месяцев назад
This may have been well planned and the brits made a pig's ear out of trying to stop them, but in reality the Kriegsmarine just exchanged "one prison for another".
@charlesfrancis6925
@charlesfrancis6925 Год назад
What a good coordination and plan by the kriegmarine and the Luftwaffe, their dedication is commendable!
@chloehennessey6813
@chloehennessey6813 9 месяцев назад
I think it was a mistake to put that much resources into those ships. Capitol ships are such a costly and resource hungry thing.
@moistmike4150
@moistmike4150 Год назад
Kenneth Campbell and his 3 crewmen perished in the attack on Gneisenau, but he and his crew's bravery put Gneisenau out of action for many months in which it might have wreaked havoc on British convoys. God bless the brave men of the RAF and RNAF.
@Dules-u5n
@Dules-u5n Год назад
every goddamn pilot/crew was a knucklehead within that airforce
@Muesli711
@Muesli711 11 месяцев назад
He was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross for his actions.
@fredericnataf7927
@fredericnataf7927 Год назад
Actually, it was a very bad move for the German war fleet. These ships were no longer a threat to ships delivering food and materials to the Uk.
@ДанилаДзевялтовский
@ДанилаДзевялтовский 2 месяца назад
Можно сколь угодно долго раскладывать карты объяснять что где и как и почему, но прорыв Шарнхорста и Гнейзенау через ла-манш это позор британского флота 🥳
@thelastroman7791
@thelastroman7791 3 месяца назад
I wonder if there are any stories about how infuriated British command was after the failure of Operation Fuller.
@KB9813
@KB9813 5 месяцев назад
Annnnd the scharnhorst class where fast battleships, not battle Cruisers 🙄
@johnthompson4067
@johnthompson4067 Год назад
I read someplace that, after the Gneiseau was badly damaged by bombing in Kiel in early 1942, it was planned to not only replace her bow but lengthen it. Would this have allowed her to carry eight 15 inch guns? I assume that she could not do so in her original design.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 11 месяцев назад
No. Her nine eleven inch in three turrets were to have been replaced by six fifteen inch in three twin turrets.
@King_of_Railways
@King_of_Railways 11 месяцев назад
No Idea, why did the Germans choose Brest lying within the range of bombers...
@donalddemo
@donalddemo 8 месяцев назад
They were Battle cruisers, not battleships!!!! Big difference
@janwitts2688
@janwitts2688 Год назад
It was a disaster... they suffered terribly.. one of the capitals never again served in combat and the other was left in sht state only venturing forth to die.... we lost some aircraft.. bfd
@JavaIsAwesome
@JavaIsAwesome Год назад
ah dats why Prinz Eugene called the Lucky Ship through-out the end of war.
@donaldboyer8182
@donaldboyer8182 8 месяцев назад
I would not want to have to stand in front Churchill and tell the bad news. Nor would I want to be any of the major figures in this.
@neuro.weaver
@neuro.weaver 3 месяца назад
The British like to boast about how "they won WWII". However, besides the Battle of Britain (won mostly by the Polish/Greek invention of Radar), and breaking the ENIGMA code (again, achieved mostly by Polish cryptographers) they had nothing but one defeat after another. The humiliation at Dunkirk, the inglorious sinking of HMS Glorius and HMS Hood, the lost North Africa front (until the US intervened), the insulting Channel crossing, one would be hard pressed to find a decisive British victory in WWII - besides augmenting their role in Russia pushing the Germans back to Berlin.
@AB-mw8oz
@AB-mw8oz 3 месяца назад
There is so much you've gotten wrong Firstly are you saying 145 Polish pilots won the battle, how about the other 2800 RAF pilots in FIghter Command of which 2400 were British, 5 of the top 10 aces including all of the top 3 were British (1 was a pole, 1 Czech, 1 Aussie and 2 Kiwis). Discovery of electromagnet waves were first proved by Heinrich Hertz, a German in 1888 using equations from James Clerk Maxwell who was Scottish. Italian inventor Guglielmo Marconi would notice in 1899 radio waves would bounce back towards the transmitter, and in 1916 with British engineer Charles Samuel Franklin what could be effectively considered the first radar. Fast forward to 1938 when the Chain Home system became operational in Britain, it was the first early warning and military radar to become operational. The basis for Bletchley Parks intelligence program was on the work the Poles had done before the outbreak of war. Peter Calvocoressi who was head of Hut 3 at Bletchley wrote "The one moot point is-how valuable? According to the best qualified judges it accelerated the breaking of Enigma by perhaps a year. The British did not adopt Polish techniques but they were enlightened by them." and Gordon Wealchman, head of Hut 6 wrote "Hut 6 Ultra would never have gotten off the ground if we had not learned from the Poles, in the nick of time, the details both of the German military version of the commercial Enigma machine, and of the operating procedures that were in use." This has seemingly become a myth that Britain was on it's knees without Uncle Sam. The Battle for Britain was over by Christmas 1940. Sea Lion was postponed indefinitely with Hitler issuing Directive No.21 with German forces beginning to prepare for the upcoming Operation Barbarossa against the Soviet Union. In the African and Mediterranean front. After the initial defeat in the Italian invasion of Egypt in September 1940, Britain launched its own counter attack in Operation Compass whilst outnumbered 5-1 in men and 3-1 in tanks with the British forces losing 500 troops KIA, and the Italians losing 5,500 men and 133,000 captured. With the British capturing Tobruk, Barbia, Giarabub, Mechili, Beda Fomm, Sidi Barrani, Kufra. The Success of Compass and the poor performance of the Italians in the Balkans forced Hitler to divert troops from the Soviet Union to Africa. At the same time British Air attacks from Malta were intensifying with a steady supply in the Malta Convoys that neither the Italians nor Germans could stop. When the Germans arrived and launched Operation Sunflower they saw limited success, capturing Cyrenaica and besieging Tobruk, although their siege of Torbruk after 7 months would end in a failure. Between May and June 1941 there were limited skirmishes with the only notable action being the German capture of the Halfaya Pass and the failed Operation Battleaxe in June. The front not not move much until the Siege of Tobruk ended and the British launched Operation Crusader in 1941 with the British succesfully recapturing Cyrenaica and Rommel withdrew to the Gazala line which accumulated in the Battle of Gazala at which point after over a year of trying the Germans finally managed to capture Tobruk taking 35,000 prisoners. The Germans and Italians attempted to capitalise on the Gazala offensive and push on to El Alamein, which ended in a stalemate with the Axis forces failing to break the lines. At this point in the summer of 1942 Montgomery was put in charge of the British Eighth Army and on the 30th August 1942 the final German offensive on the African front commenced, Operation Surf, an attempt to envelope the British forces around Alam el Halfa which ended in defeat for Rommel. In October 1942 the British would launch an offensive around El Alamein which would end in the destruction of Panzer Army Africa. The offensive would end on November 11th, the same day the Americans would land troops in Operation Torch. The war was not won by Britain, or the United States, or the Soviet Union. It was a collective effort. Each country needed. At the Tehran conference in 1943 Stalin praised Lendlease and stated "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war." Nikita Khurshchev wrote "If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war, One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me." And Marshal Zhukov stating "People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder. And how much steel! Could we really have set up the production of our tanks without American steel? And now they are saying that we had plenty of everything on our own."
@MrMalvolio29
@MrMalvolio29 Год назад
I’ve always heard the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau referred to as “Pocket Battleships,” not as “battlecruisers.” In fact, when HMS Glorious was sunk by the Gneisenau and Scharnhorst, the message it sent out specifically identified the two capital ships attacking it as “PBs,” which was the abbreviation the Royal Navy used for German pocket battleships. I had always understood that, though lighter than a regular battleship, the pocket battleship still had more armour than the typical fast battlecruiser (such as the HMS Hood). Could you please clarify this terminological confusion? Doesn’t a pocket battleship also have a bit more firepower than a typical battlecruiser, which sacrifices armour and a few guns in the secondary battery usually in return for markedly increased speed? I guess I’m simply wondering *how* the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau survived *so* much battle damage from torpedoes, naval guns, aircraft bombs, and mines without sinking, whereas the most celebrated battlecruiser in the world, the HMS Hood, was sunk quickly by **ONE* direct hit from one of Bismarck’s naval guns…to be followed in short order to the bottom of the sea by the battlecruiser HMS Repulse, part of the foolishly small Force Z sent with nearly no air cover to “intimidate the Japanese” and defend Singapore. Instead, the kido butai had little difficulty locating the battleship HMS Prince of Wales and the Repulse; launched their torpedo and dive bombers; and easily sunk both warships. This is my point: a pocket battleship *does* sacrifice *some* armour to *seem* to comply with the Washington Naval Treaty, but in fact these warships were still perfectly well defended enough to operate in formations with slower ships in relative safety, and, more importantly, to form part of a naval battle line, and be able to depend on its armour to offer it a good deal of protection as it exchanged shots with enemy warships. The same cannot be said of the standard battlecruiser, whose greatest assets were its speed and maneuverability.
@fightingdreamer123
@fightingdreamer123 Год назад
"pocket battleship" referred to the much smaller KMS Deutschland and KMS Graf Spee, equipped with smaller guns (only 6, 11 inch guns) and lighter armor, as well as being much smaller to the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, which were very much comparable to the HMS Hood in size. Pocket Battleships have far less firepower and armor than battlecruisers, and were only employed by the Germans during the interwar period to skirt treaty limitations on their ships. Think of battlecruisers as battleships with less armor and higher speeds. Pocket Battleships are smaller and weaker in every way--their like bite-sized candy.
@MrMalvolio29
@MrMalvolio29 Год назад
@@fightingdreamer123 , this was not how the Royal Navy categorized the Scharnhorst or Gneisenau. When those ships were spotted, HMS Glorious Used the abbreviations P/Bs, in the message sent to the Admiralty. I appreciate your response, though. Thank you.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
@@MrMalvolio29 Glorious had more pressing matters concerning her than whether she was being attacked by Deutschlands or Scharnhorsts. The Scharnhorsts were definitely called battleships by the German navy.
@RocketHarry865
@RocketHarry865 11 месяцев назад
@@fightingdreamer123The Germans never used the term Pocket Battleship. They used Panzerschiffe which means armored ship. In terms of concept the Panzerschiffe were closer to the armoured cruisers of the pre-dreadnought era
@dalek3086
@dalek3086 10 месяцев назад
Deutschland was renamed Lutzow - before the Norwegian campaign. Renamed by Hitler as he did not want a warship called Deutschland to be sunk. In the German Navy, Deutschland / later Lutzow was classified as panzerschiff / armoured ship , this could be translated as armoured cruiser. Some newspapers of the time called the Deutschland a pocket battleship.
@GearGuardianGaming
@GearGuardianGaming Год назад
Ok so a minor correction: Victorious renown and repulse didnt battle bismarck. That was suffolk, norfolk, rodney and i think sheffield or dorsetshire, along with king george V.l
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
Victorious, or, at least, her aircraft, did. Repulse was with King George V (not VI) initially, but withdrew due to lack of fuel Renown stayed with Ark Royal, as the whereabouts of Prinz Eugen were unknown.
@jungothemal7201
@jungothemal7201 Год назад
Fat Goehring meanwhile talking about the greatness of ze luftwaffel.. lol
@gijsv8419
@gijsv8419 11 месяцев назад
The map of the Netherlands is far from correct. The ijsselmeer is much bigger.
@casperborumandersen1458
@casperborumandersen1458 11 месяцев назад
This video reminds me almost to mutch about the operation room video about the dash through the channel
@ricardocorbie6803
@ricardocorbie6803 Год назад
What an utter embarrassment for the Royal Navy and Air forces to include Coastal Command!! 💯‼️
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
I'm not sure how it was a humilation for the Royal Navy, as the Royal Navy's main units were in the north, operating as cover against a potential sortie by the Tirpitz against Arctic convoys, as she had recently been declared operational and relocated to Norway.
@ricardocorbie6803
@ricardocorbie6803 Год назад
@@dovetonsturdee7033 my friend how could it not? The Royal Navy had the enemy pass with a stones throw of their “Yard” right under their noses, and they couldn’t stop anything!! Really? I’m astonished by your statement!! Believe me, this was an embarrassment 💯‼️
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
@@ricardocorbie6803 Why do you think that the Channel was within a 'stone's throw' of Scapa Flow or Iceland, where the Royal Navy's heavy ships were based in early 1942. The only Royal Navy resources left in the Channel were light Coastal Forces, and a flotilla of V & W Class destroyers. The Channel was not a significant naval war zone since the abandonment of any possibility of invasion almost 18 months earlier.
@PeliSotilas
@PeliSotilas Год назад
@@dovetonsturdee7033 The Air Force, however, wasn't based at Scapa Flow, was it? The British failed to sink a single ship from the german squadron which ran over 600 km right past the island. You do not need heavy surface ships to sink a battleship, as was proven by the Japanese when they managed to sink 2 British battleships at Malaysia with less than 100 planes just 3 months prior to the Channel Dash. The British failed to take advantage of a perfect situation due to lack of unity between the military branches and an overall ineptness to adopt the tactics they had witnessed the Japanese perform against their very own navy in the Pacific theater.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
@@PeliSotilas No the RAF wasn't based at Scapa Flow, but the German Squadron didn't go anywhere near Scapa Flow, but rather fled through the Channel, where the RAF were based. The Germans mobilised over 250 aircraft to protect their ships from the RAF. The failure of the RAF was threefold. Firstly, the inability of their reconnaissance patrols to realise that the squadron had sailed, secondly, the earlier failure of Bomber Command to inflict more serious damage on the ships when in Brest, and thirdly the failure of the allocated fighter protection to arrive when it failed to arrive to cover 835 Naval Air Squadron's sacrifical attack with their Swordfish. What tactics had the Japanese actually adopted, by the way? They simply used torpedo bombers against ships which lacked any air cover, much as the British had previously done against Bismarck, and against Italian ships in the Mediterranean. There wasn't actually a lack of co-operation between the RAF & the RN, for the simple reason that there were no heavy RN units anywhere near the Channel.
@matthewbatchelor5084
@matthewbatchelor5084 2 года назад
Great Video, best one I’ve seen on the channel dash
@TheWarline
@TheWarline 2 года назад
Thank you
@garethmatthews7939
@garethmatthews7939 3 месяца назад
the raf were susposed to escort ther swordfish in but did not turn up has a officer had locked the plans in a safe and told no one
@lukeyeates8595
@lukeyeates8595 3 месяца назад
That was bluff by the Brits, you want those boats back in Germany, harry them to make them think they made it. Building false confidence. Super clever move.
@vampi-chan3793
@vampi-chan3793 29 дней назад
Ah yes, very clever, why sinking enemy capital ships when you can just let them go lmao?
@archimdejesus3188
@archimdejesus3188 Год назад
hhhhaahhhaaaha the British throw everything they have ,we call it so close and yet so far 😂😂😂😂😝
@danieltraverso3940
@danieltraverso3940 Год назад
Your last 2 videos, phenomenal. You've found your mix. Keep up the good work.
@TheWarline
@TheWarline Год назад
Thank you very much!
@Hew.Jarsol
@Hew.Jarsol 5 месяцев назад
Brits sunk the Bismark, Sharnhorst, Tirpitz 🇬🇧
@normanwells2755
@normanwells2755 Год назад
0:12 Who were considered the Allies in March of 1941?
@abizard5899
@abizard5899 Год назад
biar usaha dlm negara benua lancar ada nya pelabuhan besar....
@SeattlePioneer
@SeattlePioneer Год назад
I don't see this as a German "victory" except for the fat that all three ships survived to limp into port. What I get from your video is that all three were frequently attacked and often damaged in Brest, and when they did leave they were pursued by motor torpedo boats, destroyers, torpedo bombers and fighters once they were discovered and damaged several times and left unable to move ---temporarily. The bottom line of this fleet movement seemed to be "Well, we survived. But we'll never do THAT again!"
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 Год назад
Well, some guy called Erich Raeder called it a major strategic reversal. I suggest that he was in a position to know.
@canerguener8664
@canerguener8664 Год назад
Great. Mostly unknown stuff ,even in Germany
@joewebb4836
@joewebb4836 10 месяцев назад
They could run a knot faster than the Bismark class.
@jameskruse537
@jameskruse537 Год назад
British Author, Geoffrey Regan, has an absolutely hysterical chapter in one of his books about this operation. It can be found in either Great Naval Blunders or Air Force Blunders. I am not sure which of the two. The British come off a stiff upper lip idiots. Evidently their response was not quite as clean as excellently described here.
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