Despite all the bad publicity of his later years and his tragic personal life, I will always see the very talented and marvelous character who helped make the CARRY ON series such a success. Charles and Kenneth were my favourites and CARRYON UP THE KYBER my favourite of the series.
Poor Charles :( you can still see glimmers of the man behind his alcoholism, that anecdote about Peter Rogers and the comment about never meeting gentlemen unless there's a sign on the door! 😂 I have a lot of respect for Roy Hudd who seems to have dealt with the situation very professionally, and just look at Hawtrey's face light up when his given the applause.
@@diplomamilldoc8562 That's what I was thinking. It doesn't matter which music or comedy celebrity is being featured, you can be absolutely certain that (however ordinary or mundane that person is) some herbert is going to make the comment that that man/ woman s a 'genuis'.
@@diplomamilldoc8562 Einstein genius, Isaac Newton genius, Tesla genius. Mozart genius, Michaelangelo genius. As for John Cleese ( silly walks, dead parrot, biggus dickus ? infantile 5 year old's humour ) You're deluded. Anybody can do what Cleese did (real name ' Cheese' - hence the cheesy humour). Nobody can do what Einstein, Newton and Tesla did ( except them). Barker - muppet. Cleese- bigger muppet. Hawtry- muppet. They're all muppets.
He was hated in the area in lived, rude and obnoxious to everyone, often had rentboys up in his flat. Nobody even attended his funeral. A very bizarre character who caused chaos on the set in his later years, not in a comical sense but in a disrupted and annoying way, ended up being sacked, his on screen persona couldn't have been more different than his real life. People hate the truth and prefer to assume he was the likeable and don't realise this was an act, he was good at acting.
Charles Hawtrey was great. A normal man who had his issues, like all of us. A legend of the Carry Ons. RIP Charles. We remember you with great affection.❤
I'm not sure he was a normal man. He was deemed so vile in the community where he lived out his days refuse to have a blue plaque or even his photo in his regular pub. He was caught without his toupee when a 16 year old rent boy set fire to his flat and of course the big news was the toupee not the young man. A sad life.
@@КурочкаКрашена the truth is, he was a horrid little man, mean to fans, fellow actors, his neighbours and even total strangers. He died alone and friendless, which is what he wanted I imagine, and certainly deserved.
Yes, they were my favorites too. As a kid I spent hours watching them, sometimes fast forwarding the Carry On films until it got to their parts. I had no idea that they were so unhappy because happiness seemed to just radiate from them. Now I'm older I realise these geniuses were troubled and needed help, so sad.
Joan Sims and Hattie Jaques were lonely and sad too. Joan never married, Hattie got into an awful relationship with a young man and left her loving husband John Le Mesurier, only to be insulted and dumped by the lover soon afterwards. She fell into depression, gained weight and became very ill. Sid James on the other hand became obsessed with Babs Windsor and when she ended the affair he got depressed and started drinking. He died of heart attack soon afterwards. Sadly, the lives of the beloved Carry on stars weren't as glamorous or happy as we'd expect.
@@thescrutineer7022 i don't know if it was a curse. they enjoyed appearing on the Carry ons. it probably was the happiest time of their lives. but had rather sad lives outside the movies. Btw, if you enjoy the "Carry on" cast, i fully recommend the following TV shows: 1. Sykes - it stars Eric Sykes and Hattie Jaques, but also features Joan Sims. 2. Allo Allo!- probably my favourite TV show- it features Kenneth Connor in probably the most heartwarming and charming role of his career as an old romantic undertaker (but also mayor and member of the French Resistance)
He was wonderful. And there were so many other amazing actors/comedians then. No chance of this happening again unless we get British Cinema back. We used to have the second biggest film industry in the world. Now, 99 percent of the films shown in UK cinemas are foreign films - mostly American. It's tragic.
My grandmother knew him quite well, she lived about 5 doors down form him in Deal , apparently he was always pretty nice to her whenever they bumped into each other..i was told its because she never asked him for anything...where lots of other folk always wanted something from him ..
I would love to be able to see the rest of his time on the show ,,(the bits that were cut) I met him when I was 17, he was actually really nice ,not the "nasty piece of work" I often hear him called ..RIP
So sad. My granded recorded all the carry on films from tv. And when i was younger i would watch them all the time, I grew up on those films, and loved everyone who starred in them. Such a shame we lost all of them now, most before i was born (1981) A whole generation of actors been and gone.
Sadly, he went from bread money to drink money. Williams left about 500k which is apparently around 1.5 million today. He and Hawtrey were household names yet they only got about 5k per movie back then, which is about 15k today. Terrible treatment.
Yes the carry on film's 🎬paid badly Dame Barbara Windsor only earned her fortune in eastenders.. Charles Hawtrey had a paupers funeral so he must have boozed he's savings away,,poor man 💔😓 no mourners at he's funeral except nine carry on fan's
Yes considering the popularity of the films and their box office success, their merchandise sales, their television compilation ratings, the actors were underpaid. But the reason I think they still did the films was because 6 weeks work on a Carry on Film still got them the money that an average person made in one entire year. Still legal but morally no not right.
"Williams left about 500k which is apparently around 1.5 million today." A lot of that was the value of his 2 flats (I think he owned his mum's next door as well). Hence it would be substantially more than that today, given how property prices have surged. At least £5 million I'd say. A highly theoretical calculation as the block was demolished about 15 years ago now.
For a number of reasons: he was extremely rude to people; an alcoholic; an extremely promiscuous homosexual who often would not say no to his propositions. In otherwards: a horrible person.
Dear Charles Hawtrey 💔😓 He gave so much laughter in the carry on 🎬📺 Rip Charles Hawtrey he's mother passing ❤had a lot to do with he's heavy drinking 🍸
I think that he was also disappointed with his career. Unfortunately although talented, his look precluded him from the kind of roles that he would have liked.
Such a waste of an immense talent. He strikes me as a truly gentle soul who was swallowed up by an unforgiving world. That's not to say he was necessarily a NICE soul, and he clearly made a LOT of bad choices purely through his own pride...but I still have enormous sympathy for him.
I don't care about his faults, etc. I've never met the, "perfect", person.I do know he was, wonderful, actor, with great, comic, timing, & delivery :"Oohh, I say!!
I must be older than i thought lol. For me it was nursery, infants, juniors, then secondary.. Secondary was 1st form, 2nd form, 3rd form, 4th form, then 5th form. After that it was 6th form if you went. None of this year 7, year 8, etc. malarkey, though they still call 6th form sixth form in a lot of places.
Besides being an alcoholic Hawtrey by all accounts has been described as not being the most pleasant of people to know or work with. He reportedly actually once threw a vase of flowers at a nurse who asked him for an autograph when he had been in hospital, and I think if I remember rightly that he supposedly thought that as an actor he should not have been above working in Carry On movies in spite of the fact that it's these movies that essentially made his career.
When you break it down, the actual interview (without the film clips) lasted 2min 40. Surely that couldn't have been all that was originally broadcast.
It was probably due to the booze but he was apparently a bit of a bastard to everyone especially fans even children. I've read that he was so unpleasant to people that he was even banned from his local boozer in the village where he lived. I think he thought he was a bigger star than he actually was and because of his over the top demands the producer and director of the carry on films had enough of his antics and excessive demands that after Carry on abroad they got rid of him and never hired him again.
To all those that say he had a sad life, how the feck do you know. Maybe he had a riot being in films, going to parties, getting young a-hole and making money. Ok so towards the end he hit the piss, big deal, so have countless others, Burton, Harris, Oliver Reed and George Best. Hawtry outlived them all and had such fun most of the way.
Charles hawtrey loved to shock and make people feel uncomfortable. Apparently that’s why Kenneth Williams wasn’t keen on him. And because he would complain about some of his comments, it would just spur him on to annoy him more lol. Barbara Windsor though loved his cheekiness. 😂
Charles was supposed to be in the 1972 Carry On Christmas TV show, but when Sid James and Terry Scott were unable to do it, Charles, who would have been the most senior cast member, wanted top billing, but Peter Rogers, notoriously prickly with money, said no. Charles felt very upset and decided not to take part. The next film, Carry On Girls, had a part written for him (Cecil Gaybody), but the relationship between Peter and Charles had broken down. Strangely, when they were planning a Carry On Again Nurse in the 1980s, they wanted Charles back, but he and Kenneth Williams died before anything happened. I don't think there was an issue with the director, Gerald Thomas. Despite his drink issues, he was professional on set, and was apparently very charming when he wasn't drinking.
This is a repeat of my comment above : " It doesn't matter which music or comedy celebrity is being featured, you can be absolutely certain that (however ordinary or mundane that person is) some herbert is going to make the comment that that man/ woman s a 'genuis' ". I bet, when I start checking the other comments, more of you will have said the same ridiculous thing.
@@thelastmotel Well, he was eccentric. He prob preferred the 1970’s clothes he had than modern stuff. And if he liked it that’s all that matters. Why waste money on stuff just for the sake of it. I’ve got clothes that I still wear from 25 yrs ago. Back when clothes were well made and lasted. Not like the cheap crappily made stuff you get it most shops now.
Not directly. He was sacked because he demanded top billing on the next project after "Abroad"...which I think was a Christmas show? The directors told him no and he quit. Undoubtedly his drinking meant they weren't rushing to get him to change his mind.
For the start, he didn’t live in a flat. He lived in a very nice Georgian house, coincidentally next door, but One to my parents, and yes, he did have rather a lot of sailors, visiting him wink wink and the occasional male escort. He was quite often paralytic drunk and could hardly get through his own front door, but I’ll tell you something now he was never rude. He was never obnoxious. You’ll find a lot of that is tosh and made a good story sold to papers by people looking to cash in !! … And yes he certainly did tell people a few Home truths in the local public houses, especially when they were taking the piss out of him for being gay
That is certainly a side you never here mentioned in any documentary . But I can believe it and hope it is true. I would imagine any encounter to refuse an autograph was based on something that had happened to Charlie prior to put him in that mood. Without drink , I imagine he was a nice person and could be very warm and friendly. Can't have been easy at that time being gay when it was illegal and so openly and obviously gay.
Hawtree amazing. Hudd the only comedian who offended me ever (I'm almost 60), At a Bournemouth show he ridiculued people with a hare lip. I was maybe 8. I hope he's in hell now for how he made me feel. As it affects a lot of people he must have made thousands of tiny kids feel like dirt. The first time in my life I wished a person got ill forever. But Hawtree was great.
