Charli doesn’t owe zoe anything. She’s not obligated to be her friend or accept her apology. She’s doing the right thing by just choosing to move on and remove Zoe from her life. Zoe will be fine. It’s not the end of the world
Right. Also who’s to say Zoe won’t do it again? She made it obvious that she didn’t like her and she probably lowkey still doesn’t. Can’t trust people like her. 🤷🏽♀️
@@cocohord same and ikr even though all this drama (Charli & Zoe stuff including the texts) are from 2020. None of this is recent idky she's covering it now but it's still entertaining ig lol
Zoe's hatred to Charli level is exaggerating high and crazy embarrassing! If she wants to be popular do something without hating someone who's getting popular than hers! Focus on her kid than beefing someone else.. again!! Personally, Zoe can't get over her hatred towards Charli!
Ok but all charli gotta do Is accept apology move on and she better be lucky Zoe even apologize and a lot of people don’t apologize for that stuff you doing this all for what not siding with anybody
That Zoe is delusional, she was never the “queen” of anything besides talking sh!t behind others’ backs. Loren Gray was the most followed on tiktok before Charli and tiktok influencers came up, don’t even try 💀 Zoe wasn’t even in top 10 I dunno where the hell she took that from
Instead of Zoe focusing on her child, she wants to bash Charli and constantly be a petty, clout chasing narcissist. Zoe's even older than Charli. Zoe should've known better. This's too sad
@@xukosayawaki well like I’m not really shocked but it’s just I haven’t seen Charli stand up for herself in front of Zoe yet if it did happen then I didn’t see but yea
For someone who struggled with self worth, it is a struggle to defend yourself, wspecially in a situation where everyone is defending the other party And then you get negative comments on youtube for defending yourself
I think Charli handled that very maturely and if y’all say she was rude for not forgiving her open your eyes and see how badly Zoe treated her ,honestly in that clip where she was sitting on the floor she sounded like a spoilt child crying cause someone stole their toy ,she needs to realise she doesn’t have to be in the spotlight all the time,focus on your child,Zoe you’re a mother,act like one.
I'm really disappointed in the ppl who dragged charli for not accepting zoe's apology like...everyone excepts us to be these really forgiving angels but no. Sometimes we just don't want to forgive someone and that's okay. There are times when you can appreciate someone's apologies but not accept them and i think that's totally fine.
not rly cuz zoe wanted to apologize not be freinds. charli was rude and insensitive about it because she was calling zoe insecure and a bad person. instead of being stuck in the past yall should realize that zoe is trying to better herself and that maybe charli shouldn't have included the insecure and bad person part. zoe curently isnt a bad person because she is obviously trying to better herself but calling someone insecure is beyond bad and thats what charli is doing. just because charli has more fans or more talent or more fame than someone doesnt mean her actions can go unnoticed while others get brung down just bcs of things they did in the past.
@@joanahplysrblxgirly2524 how was she “Insensitive”????She was literally pointing out that Zoe has done horrible and disgusting things to her and that she’s done with her bs
y’all really forget charli has never done anything wrong, meanwhile zoe has said the N-word, groomed and 13 year old and MANY MORE things yet some of y’all defend zoe?!💀
She is 3 months older than me and this fuck!ng sad-no actually pathetic. Like news flash Laverne nobody has to accept your half a$$ apology. Go take care of your kid and stop worrying abt internet drama.
That used to be me when I was in 6th grade and very new to the cool popular zone which we needed to maintain in middle school and all that mattered to people was how many followers you had and if it was less than someone specific you’re not cool..lol those days were hilarious
i'm no avid tik tok watcher or fan, but i think Charlie is honestly pretty chill and she gets so much crap and handles it so well, she is pretty mature for her age. especially compared to this zoe chick, i don't think Charlie owes her anything.
@@cherryblossom7120 I don't deny that was uncool tbh I almost forgot that's true, but generally she's isn't that bad compared to others in the spotlight
@@sertanz breaking quarantine rules is enough, she's fucking lucky she didn't end up in the hospital on her death bed, like the 1,000 other people who did.
how is she dereanged when she is trying to better herself and apologizing? not only that but charli called her a bad person and insecure multiple times. just because zoe did things in the past, doesnt mean charli can be rude and insensitive about it. If that were me and someone said all that stuff while i was trying to apologize, i would've told them they obviously dont deserve an apology.
@@smu8672 i dont think she is tho bcs ofc everything she used to do was so horrible but she is actually getting so much better now. but ofc yall only look at things ppl do wrong in the past and not things they do right in the present soooooo u do u
yes and this was before, the screenshot only just got leaked. There was an audio before zoe was pregnant where she was saying charlie writer a long paragraph and made her cry
Just because you want to apologize doesn’t mean that the person you’re apologizing to has to accept it or listen to you. The fact that she needed charli To listen to her and get her point out despite the fact that she’s blatantly being told that it doesn’t want to be heard shows her apology had selfish reasons behind it
no zoe just wanted to make things right and all she wanted was to share her feelings too. and even if it didnt want to be heard we all know charli said alot more than that. zoe wanted to apologize not be freinds. charli was rude and insensitive about it because she was calling zoe insecure and a bad person. instead of being stuck in the past yall should realize that zoe is trying to better herself and that maybe charli shouldn't have included the insecure and bad person part. zoe curently isnt a bad person because she is obviously trying to better herself but calling someone insecure is beyond bad and thats what charli is doing. just because charli has more fans or more talent or more fame than someone doesnt mean her actions can go unnoticed while others get brung down just bcs of things they did in the past.
@@joanahplysrblxgirly2524 ok Zoe Laverne did so many bad stuff to her and u still don’t mention that ur words are so embarassing rn just because someone apalogized to someone that doesn’t mean they needa accept it they still remember there words u can sit down at this point thanks.
Despite how young Charli is, I like how she handled the situation quite well, and as for Zoe, she just straight up embarrassed herself. In my opinion Charli shouldn’t accept Zoe apology. What she said was mean and hurtful. Gurl your like what 3 years older? Smh 😭💀
zoe wanted to apologize not be freinds. charli was rude and insensitive about it because she was calling zoe insecure and a bad person. instead of being stuck in the past yall should realize that zoe is trying to better herself and that maybe charli shouldn't have included the insecure and bad person part. zoe curently isnt a bad person because she is obviously trying to better herself but calling someone insecure is beyond bad and thats what charli is doing. just because charli has more fans or more talent or more fame than someone doesnt mean her actions can go unnoticed while others get brung down just bcs of things they did in the past.
@@pimptobean no. the difference between what zoe is and grooming is that its not like connor didnt wanna do it and then zoe built up his trust to make him do it. connor came on to her, therefore what she did is wrong and illegal but it isnt grooming. look up the definition luvs
Charli was so eloquent and respectful yet direct towards Zoe. That is definitely not the worst thing Zoe could have heard I think that is the most productive thing Charli could have said in that situation.
zoe was the bigger person by apologizing, but charli never did anything to her and she has a right to not accept her apology bcuz zoe did say really mean things abt her multiple times and i’m just glad that charli finally stood up for herself
Okay but did y’all forget Zoe groomed several minors at 19 years old?? And lied about it only to be proven wrong later on? I don’t see how people can come at Charli about this. Saying charli didn’t give Zoe a chance to apologize is hilarious to me because Zoe had 2 years to apologize and mean it/work on it yet she chose to do the opposite and apologize later when she’s cornered- like I said her being a predator to minors (Zoe) overshadows all of that so why are people defending Zoe? As if it’s fun to defend a known liar and predator I cannot 😂 please stay in school kids and get more educated on reality please thank you 😊
It's kind of weird how all the "leaks" happen to involve Zoe mainly and how they all unsuccessfully try to make her look good. ex. by showing how emotional/distressed she is on leaked audios because of how Charlie is being "mean" to her called her an "insecure bitch", and the screenshots (which clearly are from Zoe's instagram account) show Charli's texts only which pulls her words out of context and makes her assertiveness seem somewhat aggressive.
My opinion: - I feel as if it's unfair that other peoples tiktok careers gets ruined by charli just because she has more followers. When Madi tweeted that charli was crying to her about chase but then kissed him, I felt as if I could connect. She must've felt that charli was taking her for granted and just using her as a shoulder to cry on. - Zoe Laverne is immature, and a narcissist. However the fact that she's trying to grow as a person shouldn't go unnoticed.
Excuse me it’s not charli’s fault she got more followers, you’re forgetting that Zoe was 19 acting fuc*ing immature like a toddler and you’re right about Zoe being a narcissist
@@foivechan by having 100mil on tiktok but that’s like not her fault and it’s just so dumb 💀 but i kind of get that? Bc many famous like 10-30mil tiktokers got into shadows and don’t even get 50k likes on their tiktoks but once again, it’s not her fault she blew up.
It’s zoe, it said that zoe has sent multiple messages apologizing and multiple paragraphs apologizing and I think Charlie got fed up and finally told her off, zoe needs to understand that Charli has the right to not forgive her and that’s fine
Videos like these make me thankful that I’m not a social media influencer. Literally everything they say and do comes to light eventually. Idk how they can deal with every little thing they do being plastered on social media for people to see😭🥲
The fact that Loren gray used to be the “queen” of tiktok/musically and when charli passed her Loren said nothing and didn’t say anything mean. That just shows how Loren and charli are queens
I think that charli had every right to go off on Zoe but we need to understand that Zoe and charli are still quite young and why does everyone keep saying that zoe got worse after she had her baby I think that she has been in way less drama I think people just want to make a fool out of Zoe sometimes
True, but I think it’s bc Zoe spent so much time making a fool of herself that people are used to seeing that from her now and either can’t or don’t want to see anything different.
Not even upset that Charli called Zoe out. They way she handle it and stood up to herself was amazing. Also that wasn't Charli and Chase kissing, It was Avani and Anthony. You tell very easy that it was Anthony and Avani.
Charli wasn’t even being rude she was being straight up honest, Zoe has been saying slick things about charli for so long and charli finally snapped back
i love char, i rlly do. but that statement abt surrounding herself with ppl like zoe is just... its so hypocritical because she surrounds herself with other bad ppl. but other than that charli ate zoe up
She wasn’t the queen of musically, not even close lmao the queens of musically were Lisa and Lena and after them was between Baby Ariel and Loren Gray. After the twins left and it became tiktok Loren was the most followed until Charli came up. That girl is delusional, she was never the “queen” of anything
Honestly I don’t think Charli is being rude. Zoe was on social media for longer but that does not mean Zoe has to come at her like that, Charli did nothing. I think Charli had the right to say that stuff and honestly to me she handled that really well.
So after years of Zoe degrading and putting charli down, one simple apology is gonna cut it? And when she doesn’t accept it your gonna cRY? Fr? Girl she can’t expect her to be all happy and accept her apology just like that. Girl no
Charli is obligated to accepted her apology, be friends with her, or respond to her. Lets normalize not accepting people's apology if they dont show any change in behaviour.
Ever since Zoe had her child she hasn't been in much drama but now all of a sudden y'all wanna be worried about her. Let her just focus on her child and Charli focus on herself and leave all this BS in the past. 🙄 And lets be clear Charli never ended Zoe, Zoe did that on her own by saying the n word and being a bad influence on her young audience.
Yes she has right now and it’s on TikTok and she obviously wanted everybody’s attention so she got it and should be worried about her baby and not this drama
Zoe wanted attention and she got it, the selling her baby's photos weren't enough so she had to start up old drama. This is what happens when you're an influencer, I shouldn't have to be telling you this. Also, she fucked a 13 year old, she needs jail time 🤷♀️
These kids are so lost. It’s honestly just sad. Poor kids stuck in drama, offended by everything and can’t seem to realize what the spotlight is doing to them.
Anna sounds a little sick in parts of this video and I just wanna say thank you for continuing to deliver the tea, Queen. All these people are like, “iT’s HeR jOb” and act like they don’t call in sick to work when they feel bad. Thank you for all of the hard work, Anna ❤️
The icon video of Zoe Ok I think it’s ver pathetic of crying about BUT if everyone is reminding me that some lil kid is doing better than me and keeps comparing me to them and having me feel like I’m not good enough it’s gonna make me cry-
The drama between Charli and Maddie, In my opinion the fan's and paparazzi started the rumors. It's about time Charli stood up for herself, I don't feel like she was being rude to Zoe at all, but telling her how she feels and gave her straight up facts
