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ChatGPT can't multiply, but can AI do math? 

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@saaah707
@saaah707 Год назад
I played with this a bit. Very interesting. It can tell you how to multiply, but it can't follow its own instructions. I tried telling it to not give me an answer without first double-checking the result by dividing back to the original number, and to show its work. It proceeded to walk me step-by-step to the wrong answer, and then through the "check" step, also done incorrectly but magically arriving to the original multiplicand as a "proof" of correctness. Oddly enough, this is the hallmark behavior of an undergrad who doesn't want to learn -- these things are getting more and more humanlike by the day. 😅
@FireyDeath4
@FireyDeath4 5 месяцев назад
It also intakes text tokenistically. Since patterns like "123" can be single tokens, it creates a lot of confusion when it tries to process data with unique numbers in it. It's much harder to train it and make it predict digital interactions properly when there are just random variations introduced like that
@metachirality
@metachirality Год назад
In theory, given enough data, a language model can do arithmetic accurately in general. For example, a researcher Neel Nanda trained an AI to do modular arithmetic, and amazingly it learned an algorithm that works in every case.
@BlackBull.
@BlackBull. Год назад
Now it makes sense. I knew its beefy auto complete but never understand why it got close but never hit
@izzyonyt
@izzyonyt Год назад
It's not *just* autocomplete. 🤦‍♀️ Well, GPT 4 at least.
@jmarvins
@jmarvins Год назад
@@izzyonyt GPT4 is much closer to "just autocomplete" than it is to "general intelligence" in any philosophically relevant sense
@izzyonyt
@izzyonyt Год назад
@@jmarvins That's an irrelevant statement to make though. It's still not just autocomplete
@jmarvins
@jmarvins Год назад
@@izzyonyti suppose we should stop using the inaccurate term AI then as well, but nobody will do that the workings of LLMs have much more to do with autocomplete than however human brains produce general intelligence facepalm someone making an autocomplete joke all you want, but you should be facepalming every "AI" comment as well
@ckq
@ckq Год назад
​@@jmarvinsAGI might be impossible, but if it is possible don't you think it would be made in a similar manner as GPT4 is (training and fine tuning an LLM to maximize general intelligence)? You're overestimating human intelligence because GPT4 is better than 90-99% of humans in many tasks. If you disagree, is it because you think the only way to achieve AGI is some other way that's more similar to how the human brain functions?
@M.O.Valent
@M.O.Valent Год назад
I also noticed that when I tried to have it work around some mathematical problems
@BooleanDisorder
@BooleanDisorder 5 месяцев назад
Pretty sure the problem is the tokenization, not neural networks per say.
@Takyodor2
@Takyodor2 4 месяца назад
Neural networks don't understand multiplication, getting the correct result every time would mean training on enough samples to "remember" every solution. I don't think it would be very difficult to train a neural network to recognize an arithmetic problem, and hard-code the behavior "put the numbers and operator into a calculator instead of giving an answer directly, return the result given by the calculator app".
@anonymousOrangutan
@anonymousOrangutan Год назад
1:00 AI can't do simple arithmetic, so mathematicians aren't going out of business anytime soon... ***my math major friends asking me if 7 * 8 is 48***
@baerlauchstal
@baerlauchstal Год назад
I had fun trying to get ChatGPT to admit it couldn't solve y' = x - y^3 symbolically. Just a load of bluster, signifying nothing.
@Oldeagle66
@Oldeagle66 2 месяца назад
I did a math problem by paper then asked AI to to show me the exact steps to do it. They couldn't do it.
@anonymousOrangutan
@anonymousOrangutan Год назад
awesome video btw! (:
@Turalcar
@Turalcar Год назад
2:39 To be clear, all problems can be converted just representation can be too large to be tractable.
@geekjokes8458
@geekjokes8458 Год назад
what exactly do you mean by "graphs closer to disproving the conjecture"? i feel like that wouldnt translate into most things like, parker squares are almost perfect magic squares, but they dont really do anything regarding proving or disproving if perfect magic squares exist, and it's not inconceivable tha an neural network could "believe" it does and keep tweaking it's dataset and keep training on a useless path
@ASackVideo
@ASackVideo Год назад
The idea is that you have some way of measuring how close it is to disproving. The idea is particularly well-suited to the situation where you have a function that takes in a graph and returns a real number, and you conjecture that the function is bounded below by some constant. "Being closer to disproving it" would just mean being closer to that constant. It's not a technique that will work on every problem, and it will certainly sometimes go down useless paths. But it is a technique that was shown to useful on a couple problems. If you're interested in more details, I recommend reading the paper.
@anonymousOrangutan
@anonymousOrangutan Год назад
actually chatgpt can get multiplications right with 100% accuracy if you turn "engineering mode" off
@saaah707
@saaah707 Год назад
How do you do that?
@adamclement2002
@adamclement2002 2 месяца назад
i tested this and it works, but WHY???????
@otmanalami6621
@otmanalami6621 Год назад
is GPT4 is still struggling with simple calculation?!
@ASackVideo
@ASackVideo Год назад
Yes if you don't let it use plugins.
@satunnainenkatselija4478
@satunnainenkatselija4478 4 месяца назад
The two most significant digits are correct so as far as an engineer is concerned, the calculation is correct.
@s4br3
@s4br3 Год назад
first lol also cool video
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