i will admit i thought the same thing. im like oooo where. cause all 5g isps are unlimited only to a certian point then massive throttle and charge 10$ per gig
@@eat.a.dick.google Edge is a thing, but nobody would confuse 1G with a usb ethernet adapter. Misleading title. This is not a revolutionary 5g cellular modem.
I kinda forgot that ethernet speeds exist in 5gb so I thought it was 5G, as in cell connection. That would be wild if it was that. Still cool to have though! It's a nice option to have.
No but if you get a 10Gbe switch for say servers, you can connect your laptop/desktop at 5Gbe. 2.5 still isn't fully adopted yet, so yeah 5 will be a while.
Take it up with WisdPi! I call it "5 Gig" or "5 Gbps", I'm just calling it what the product name shows, plus it creates a lot more engagement in the comments :)
On the Windows system it is using the proper Realtek driver. On macOS it is running the adapter in its compatibility mode with the CDCE driver, same goes on other OS's with such a driver and if they don't have an updated driver with the proper functionality and USB device ids.
Hey Jeff, I don't know if anyone has pointed this out in the comments yet or not, but you might consider changing "5G" to 5GbE. I know the title and thumbnail both say Ethernet and the thumbnail shows an ethernet cable, but I just REALLY want to get upset on the internet today and doing this makes me feel smart. /s
Misleading, click bait title. 5gb Ethernet is not "5G". 5G is short for 5ghz, the frequency band being used. Meanwhile, "5G; fifth-generation technology standard for cellular networks, first deployed in 2019."
@BenState finished school most likely before you were born kid, and we aren't talking about SI prefix but industry naming conventions. 5G = CELL Network. The End. It's
Just bought a 5Gbps USB adapter from Wavlink that uses the same Realtek chip. Cost me a little over $12 converted from my country's currency. Should arrive in a few days.
I really thought this is some weird, stupid random video from some random channel. I mean, I thought the video is about having the 5G (cellular) speed using cable connection. But, it turns out it's indeed just about 5G Ethernet....
Nice one, Jeff. I tested the WisdPi adapter too. I had the exact same experience on macOS. On Windows 11 under load (generated traffic by iperf3) it often freezes and disconnects. On Raspberry Pi 5 and 4 I had no luck yet - I ran into driver issues. The thermal performance is great though, it runs warm but so much significantly cooler than the 10 GbE adapters based on AQC chip.
Hopefully Realtek can get the driver stuff sorted better. It's already faster than my 2.5G adapters at home and the office, so I'm using it for my laptop.
Nice video - might be an idea to retest when WIn11 24H2 hits general availability (hopefully mac and Linux will play nice too to negotiate a 5gbps link in their next major releases as well)
YES. I spent so much money trying to upgrade the connection from my laptop and desktop to 5Gbps but in the end I realized I'd have to spend yet another $200 to get a thunderbolt to ethernet cable adapter since my computer didn't even have a 5 gigabit ethernet port.
First question I would ask is why do you NEED that much bandwidth? Unless you are on an ultra-fast 'net connection you'll still bottleneck badly at your router, and if you are looking for internal LAN use only the extra speed would be overkill for all but the heaviest network usage.
Thanks for the video. I've been looking for a quick simple tool to test bandwidth to help me locate bottleneck problems, and the iperf app is exactly what I've been needing. Thanks!
a few months back I bought some cheap 2.5G PCIe cards thinking I could run direct from PC to NAS for video editing. But win10 does not route, so the NAS ended up stranded on its own segment. Ended up buying a TP-link 2.5G 5port switch, so now PC, 2 NAS's, and sons PC in the next room are all 2.5G, making my home network officially faster than my office network (at a major university) which is still 1Gbit.
This will be a nice future upgrade for my HPE Proliant MicroServer Gen10 Plus in the future. Having a USB solution is needed with the only PCIe slot being taken up by an NVME to PCIe adapter board.
this is perfect, I recently put some 10Gb backhaul in, and have some 2.5Gb ports for clients, but I have a 2.5/5/10Gb port as well. After moving an 88GB file at 2.5Gb from my NAS to my PC, this would be a welcome upgrade until I upgrade my PC to full 10Gb, and can maybe use this for other stuff like my laptop... once I have more 5Gb ports on my network :P
The S+RJ10 modules are real hotheads. One of our customers uses them, and since their rack didn't have active cooling we had to install tiny USB-powered fans to cool the modules down, otherwise the switch would constantly complain about high temps... Mikrotik even recommends not installing them in directly adjacent SFP+ slots, at least for switches where the slots are directly next to each other. Might work a bit better on yours since the slots are more spaced out. Good to know that 5Gbit/s hardware is slowly getting affordable, but as you said, outside of professional use (or with power users) most people are probably still fine with 1GBit/s.
Hope there’s a pcie version too. Would probably be the easiest way to cheaply link a home nas to my pc at decent ssd speeds(sata, but still) lol. Thought as you said the 2.5gb and up switches are pretty expensive, I guess a crosslink ethernet cable would be better a fit?
There is! I haven't yet gotten one but WisdPi sells a PCIe Gen 3 card, plus a little SFP module that does 1/2.5/5G, which is nice. All pretty reasonably priced.
Very cool. I have a stupid question -- how are you screen recording Safari and Terminal, maximized, such that they perfectly fill the 3840x2160 frame, while being large enough to easily view/read? Do you have a 3840x2160 display connected to your Mac, or are you doing other magic to accomplish this? I constantly fight with macOS screen recording to make it look right, be it in ScreenFlow or OBS.
I think he records by just directly copying the screen output. He's been recording direct raspberry pi output with no OBS/ScreenCap on the RPI in sight. Once you can do that I would imagine it is easy to make font size and whatnot to your liking on Apple OS's
I saw these in PCIE card format, Realek really did some quality work. Cheap and keeps cool, I ran the card in unraid and did not have issues, only had to add the drivers from the plugin shop.
TP Link came out with a small unmanaged silent 8 port switch recently. It's about 6x4 in and sells for about 100usd. All the new motherboards have 2.5g. It was finally time to switch. Also picked up one of those topton N100 quad 2.5g systems for 120usd to use for a router & other services.
I stopped using usb 2.5gbit ethernet adapters, i couldnt find one single usb port in my house where they would work reliably. Not usbc, not usb3.2, not on the mainboard, not on a powered usb hub. Neither windows nor linux. Best case they work for a while, but sooner or later they lose connection. I followed any instruction i found in forums, like switching energy saving off etc. I wasted like 2 weeks of my life😂 Most nas forums reiterate that usb is a polling architecture / protocol and therefore unreliable for network connection. I have zero issues with pcie adapters, both 2.5 gbit and 10gbit. The 1gbit usb dongles seem to work, but never tried. Whats your experience?!
Hi Jeff, I see you're using 6 RJ-45 modules in your Mikrotik switch. How are the temps? Is the switch still passively cooled or did you add fans to the switch?
in Italy the 1Gb internet connection is gradually disappearing. Today if I go to make a new contract for Internet connection I am offered fiber ( FTTH ) connection at the speed of 2.5Gb / 5Gb / 10Gb, so these adapters will be more and more useful to make the most of the bandwidth. In large cities the Internet connection is only fiber ( FTTH ) at the speed of 5Gb / 10Gb / 25Gb.
@@Level2Jeff A large portion of major cities in the US have 1 Gbps and many have faster speeds via AT&T, Verizon, Google Fiber, Ziply and a handful of other FTTH providers. Major cable co's have also mostly provided 1 Gbps service and some are months away from offering much faster speeds as DOCSIS 3.1+ and compatible (DOCSIS 4) modems roll out and respective backend changes are made to add more network capacity.
@@Level2Jeff in italy we went from adsl 680K / 2Mb / 7Mb / 10Mb / 20Mb to fiber FTTC 60Mb and after a while they got to FTTH connection. I have Fiber coming into my home and going to direct in the router. The push for faster connsione in italy as FTTH and 5G came from the European community and then there were investments from the government that brought the birth of OpenFiber that is connecting everyone with fiber. With direct fiber to the home from what is known you can get 10Gb or more it is just a matter of software setup and compatibility of the Router in the home ps. My city has only 32254 people
Still remember installing IIT cat5 STP cable rated to 500MHz back in the early 2000s, I think every site ripped it out as their new it support companies said they needed Cat5e to run gigabit!
Still not down to 1G levels of "$10 for a cheap switch", but getting closer. Certainly enough that anyone building out a little homelab should go with 2.5 Gbps at least now.
Oh, cool! I have a 5gig up/down fiber plan but my motherboard only has 2.5 onboard. I might get this instead of the dedicated network card I was looking at bhecause my mobo is full lol
One thing i could never really find a clear answer on was whether or not the switch has to support 2.5/5Gbe if you want to go the SFP+ route, or if its just the tranciever that matters - like you said, most switches are 100m/1Gbe/10Gbe rather than 100m/1Gbe/2.5Gbe etc
i would say people want to just go to 10g - 10g switch prices are dropping fast - saw a 8 port 10g from sodola for 140 - i have sodola 2.5g switch and it works great, i tried 2.5g bonding link agg and it was a hassle - I am going to goto 10g at some point but 2.5 is pretty good for the time being
i ve switched to 10Gbit few years ago between some hosts because there is just 2.5 is not enough for me and 5G wasnt anywhere available. With 5Gb i ll be mostly happy
And to think I'm only recently upgrading my networking to gigabit from 100Mbit... Also, for a moment I thought this video would be about a cellular 5G modem, heh.
Is fiber networking not "ethernet"? The switches I work with say it is. 100gbps multimode fiber QSFP. If we use the OSFP ports, we can get much higher speeds
Got bamboozled by the title. I thought it was about a 5G router that was finally cheap to buy. By the way, I really don't get it why 5G router are so expensive when 5G phones can be bought at a ~20% price difference. Yeah...I hate this trend of saying 5G, 6G for network speeds or wifi versions. xG like 5G usually implied cellular network generations
I primarily edit videos on my M1 Macbook Air and use a Thunderbolt 3 dock to connect all the drives I need. My plan is to turn my old PC into a NAS but I haven't found any cost effective alternatives to a Thunderbolt to 10G adapter. Do you think it would be a cost effective solution to pick up two of these adapters for my Mac and a dual 10G NIC for the NAS and still be able to read and write at speeds sufficient enough to edit 4k video off the NAS?
What’s the RTTL for this? I have coax in my house and am debating on MoCA but there is a translation induced latency for the electrical signally. I’m assuming something similar here.
Liked the video, although the title was misleading. Maybe now you should try to find a real 5G (cellular) adapter for raspberry pi and run some tests on it :)
Heh, they're the ones that call it a "5G Ethernet" adapter! :D I would say 5 GbE, or 5GbaseT maybe? Not sure which one is the correct technical designation. Or be like Windows, "5000 Mbps"
it is time to turn my 10th gen(ice-lake) laptop with two bay 2.5 inch sata drive into a home server, but I think the USB 3.0 to 2.5Gbit ethernet adapter is good enough.
10 Gbps USB-C port for this test, it would max out around 3.5-4 Gbps probably on a regular USB 3.0 (or whatever it's called, "USB 3.2 Gen 1x4 Type 123 over C" lol).
@@Level2Jeff The USB naming convention is actually quite straight forward if you ignore the USB 3.X or USB4 part. Gen 1 = 5 Gb/s Gen 2 = 10 Gb/s Gen 3 = 20 Gb/s Gen 4 = 40 Gb/s Gen 2x2 takes advantage of the reversability of USB-C to use both sides simultaneously. Also applies to Gen 1x2, Gen 3x2 Gen 4x2.
Why would a RU-vidr with one or two computers and less than 30k subs need a 10gbps switch? You don't even need a switch. I don't mean to be critical. I just noticed things. Also you can turn off your AC and then record as long as you want to. I'm not sure how many people are still using cat5 cable but it's time to upgrade it to cat 8 at least.
was your Mac testing done on Sequoia or Sonoma? I'm seeing some weird ethernet performance in Sequoia vs Sonoma after this week's release with my 2.5Gbit USB-c devices (Anker) can only download at 1.9Gbit vs 2.4Gbit on Sonoma. I've seen other users seeing the same and while rebooting back and forth to test. Maybe the slower speeds you're seeing are related.
2.5 GbE is ok and lot of devices already have it...but 5GbE is already dead interface....it makes no sense for vendors to even try it...if someone need more than 2.5GbE it makes more sense to jump straight to 10GbE interface...few days ago i was talking directly with guy from TPLink about new hardware and so on..., and he said what i said...they dont even consider using 5GbE interface on WiFi 7 APs...because it make no sense, for cheaper options there are avaible models with 1/2.5GbE and for more expensive 10GbE even with POE in.....2.5 ist now pain in the ass because older devices with 10G interfaces dont support 2.5 even with firmware updates...lot of network gear with SFP+ (10Gb) still dont support 2.5Gb...
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Awesome. I had better go and downgrade my 10Gb ethernet to 5Gb....
Honestly don't think 5Gb is ever really going to be widely adopted, everything seems to be either 2.5 or 10, so if your switch is 2.5 it's a pointless, and if your switch is 10, why even bother?
Can't roll out what doesn't exist. 10 Gbps switch doesn't matter if you can't have 10 Gbps interfaces on the respective computers. 5 GbE is still better than 1 or 2.5. A little common sense.
