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My old Porter Cable chop saw died so I replaced with the newer version. This is not a review of the tool, I'll do that in a few years after seeing how it holds up!
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@michaeldougfir9807 5 лет назад

Good video. Taiwan is a good Ally. I stopped in there a few times when I was in the US Navy. At that time they were just changing over from steam to diesel locomotives. I wanted to take the steam train from Kaoshung to Taipei. It still ran. But they were SO proud of their new American diesels, they actually would not let me go on the steam train. But the ride was the same in the old pullman cars. They also had antiaircraft gun emplacements everywhere with soldiers manning them. They seemed to expect Chairman Mao at any minute. And they were READY for him. Those were good visits. A bit off topic, but Taiwan was mentioned and a flood of memories came back. Thanks for a good video, and for teaching me about that saw.

@rendition8528 3 года назад

Random Taiwanese here, I appreciate your kind words :)

@johna1160 5 лет назад

Understand your buying a new one, but was expecting to see you replace brushes in old one. Get it running again, maybe give it away. Keep it out of the landfill. I follow the same buy "Made in U.S.A." approach whenever possible. Regrettably, it's becoming harder and harder to do.

@HarmonHeat 5 лет назад

I think the brushes cost under $10 for most tools. It would be great to keep it out of the scrap yard

@Ultrazaubererger 5 лет назад

Yes, please replace the brushes EC!

@steveredenbaugh9058 5 лет назад

many times Made in America with Import parts... Like China...

@antigravity6 5 лет назад

Usa makes pvc plumbing pipes. Buy that if you re so blindsided by made in usa. They re cheap stuffs

@jdattaway 5 лет назад

"Assembled in America" is the new made in America unfortunately

@SkylerKing 5 лет назад

I'm an American, but I live in Taiwan. The manufacturing industry here is incredibly good. As it turns out, Taiwan actually produces some of the best products in the world in several industries (computer parts, optics, camera gear, bikes, etc). I bought my welder from a local shop that makes them by hand. Hand made, 220v, 200amp, and it is rated as having a 70% duty cycle at 200amps. I can tell you right now, it is the best welder I have ever owned. I have had that thing with me on rooftops in the middle of summer (summers here can be pretty brutal) and been running it nearly non-stop for hours on end, from sunrise to sunset, and have NEVER overheated it or had any issues with it at all. Though there are always exceptions, I feel like "made in Taiwan" is usually a pretty good sign.

@nicksgarage8295 5 лет назад

cool. my welder came from shenzshen. what shop is this you speak of lol, in NJ?

@SkylerKing 5 лет назад

@@nicksgarage8295 I'm not sure I understand your statement/question.

@SkylerKing 5 лет назад

@Martin Luther yes sir. I think I've got a video of me walking through their shop, actually. You can see all sorts of stuff in different stages of being made.

@nicksgarage8295 5 лет назад

@@SkylerKing this so called local shop that makes them by hand. Never thought ppl made hand made welders.

@SkylerKing 5 лет назад

@@nicksgarage8295 well, it's a shop and it's local, so what would you call it? And how do you think welders were made before automated assembly lines were the standard?

@oxygenium92 5 лет назад

replace the brushes, while you at it replace bearings, clean the comutator and it will be as good as new, one for the shop another for field work

@vojnikjna30 5 лет назад

Piotr Brenda I rather buy a new one.

@SAXONWARLORD1000AD 3 года назад

@@vojnikjna30 and what would you do with the old one? - it just needs new brushes

@michaelbullman208 5 лет назад

AvE fans will notice the safety squints at 2:00

@Fletcher91 4 года назад

After being somewhat shocked at 0:46

@1sttigertiger426 5 лет назад

Thank you for keeping politics out of your videos.

@tier1solutions28 4 года назад

Got a porter cable 14" saw at tractor supply had on clearance for 59 dollars. Great buy

@patrickhance7211 5 лет назад

109 dollar Nice...pat from Belgium 🔪

@billmetal 5 лет назад

You need to use your respirator when sweeping those metal dust particles, they are really bad for your lungs. We need you around for a long time!

@jameskrivitsky9715 5 лет назад

I have held onto brushes and springs from other equipment that broke. Sometimes I luck out when the ones I have can be filed down to closely fit the ones that wore out. It is a soft material. Next to go are the bearings....they are usually more difficult to replace. I bought a Harbor FGT miter saw and have swapped out the blade for a multi-tooth metal blade. I use a variable speed device that allows me to slow the RPMs for various services. The abrasive blades throw off much more "soot". Thanks Scott. J K

@glennwiebe5128 5 лет назад

I know, Scott, that you said you liked Porter Cable and what that saw did for you. But, I have to ask, why would you not spend just a bit more and get a dry cut saw? Virtually no dust, next to no sparks, a beautiful clean cut, and the metal doesn't get hot. Hmmm.... Waiting for the forging!

@jaydunbar7538 5 лет назад

Dry cut doesn't get along well with hardened steel.

@bc65925 5 лет назад

The first one I purchased I was getting ready to weld up a porch rail for My Lovely Bride and I went to Horrible Fright. I burnt it up on that project. Took it back got another, second project was a flat bed for a buddies Toyota. Burnt that one up on that project. Took the 2nd one back for a refund and went and got a DeWalt. It's still cutting...

@JohnSmith-ud9ex 5 лет назад

Shame I`m so far away or I`d beg the old one off you... It`s a bit far from Vienna, Austria : (

@lpcc4010 5 лет назад

Good idea on the back stop. I usually just move the gas cans out of the way and call it good!

@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes 5 лет назад

Had used chop saws like that for years, bought a metal bandsaw - never looked back - dont know how I used that awful, noisy, messy nasty thing for so long???? Had to chuckle when I see that people still like them enough to replace one? couldnt give me one as a gift these days- May it serve you well!

@aserta 5 лет назад

I would switcheroo the bases between them, the new one looks so light the saw nearly tipped over :))

@byrnejr 5 лет назад

I truly enjoy your videos! Your such a nice guy and a family man! Only one thing please wear a dust mask. We would like to keep you around a lot longer. Love the saw very handy piece of equipment.Trying to by American built is getting harder.overseas puts out some good products. Thanks for sharing

@63256325N 5 лет назад

Ah, the advantages of a dirt floor. Thanks for the videos.

@kengamble8595 5 лет назад

They are handy to have around ! Hope that one gives as good of service as the old one. Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍

@LimitedGunnerGM 5 лет назад

You can always put new brushes in the old one and a 12” wood blade. Makes a great wood chop saw! I don’t even use my dewalt chop saw for steel anymore.

@TheTurpin1234 Год назад

You shouldnt. Spins the metal blade way too fast.

@peterbeyer5755 5 лет назад

Ear protection! You won’t be able to hear the other band members when you play your trombone, you can go deaf quite quickly as you age.

@oneobserver2260 5 лет назад

Do you have any videos about miter saws? Love your videos!

@outsidescrewball 5 лет назад

Convert the old saw to accept a porta band

@user990077 5 лет назад

He's better off with the new saw. Dinging around on the internet to source brushes and then fiddling around with the old saw takes time, and his time is worth something I'm sure...

@bobt9948 5 лет назад

I am sure you already thought of this Scott but if not...you can usually change those brushes if you can find them. It's worth looking into, you could either have two chop saws or sell one for a some dollars. Thanks for the video!

@throughmylens5127 5 лет назад

I bought a Makita cold saw and it has saved me the cost of the saw in cutoff wheels

@GibClark 5 лет назад

Fixing power tools is a crap shoot when they are that old... often times commutator is worn from all the grit on job sites, especially this tool. Bearings shot. If you aren't using it to feed your family it's one thing to repair. I tend to put my efforts into rebuilding old stationary power tools instead of hand power tools.

@JDeWittDIY 5 лет назад

Bearings are surprisingly cheap to buy on amazon and not difficult to replace.

@thematey3592 5 лет назад

I totally agree with you. If the brushes are really bad there is a good chance that the commutator is shot. This means a new armature (if you can find one). It's worth taking apart to asses the extent of the repair, but unlikely it would be worth the time and effort.

@lunchboxproductions1183 5 лет назад

@@thematey3592 Uh, no. I replaced the brushes on my dad's DeWalt chopsaw give or six times before it finally needed an armature.

@TheTarrMan 5 лет назад

If "Porter Crap"/name brand is made in China and I wanted something under/around $100 I just would of gone to the "Harbor Fart" for stuff like that. . . . . . . Same goes for "Crapsman". FOR CRYING OUT LOUD COMPANIES, MAKE STUFF HERE!!!! We'll gladly pay the extra price just so long you don't abuse the privilege like "SripOff". Or I'll keep mocking your name.

@tralex28 5 лет назад

Keep the videos coming, very informative

@lights80088 5 лет назад

Great video. I will say though, after using a Cold saw, i.e. Makita LC1230, there was no going back to an abrasive saw. I've made many cuts in all sizes of steel and the blade is still sharp. Cold saws are worth every penny and save so much clean up time on deburring and filing. The biggest plus is the cut accuracy, cut time and hardly any sparking that cannot be matched with any abrasive saw. Just my two cents though. Your vids are always fantastic. What's your opinion ? Thanks.

@doinjusfine1 5 лет назад

Third comment.. sorry.. but I just discovered your merch on your Amazon store and T-spring.. you should include that in the videos.. or maybe you do, but well done.. nice set up.

@WTFMIKE 5 лет назад

I hate to say it but i dont think youll get 20 years out of the new one... ive boughten 2 already... they last about a year under everyday use

@ibjeterhere 5 лет назад

I like the saw but it should have a handle in front instead of way up on top & your next investment should be in a vacuum, as blowing or sweeping dust around is not a good idea, your lungs will appreciate it ...

@schwab019 5 лет назад

Had same thought on handle. Must be intended to be used on the ground.

@Jim-ie6uf 5 лет назад

Good price on the new one, but why not replace the brushes. At least tear it down so we can have a look see.

@scrout 5 лет назад

A made in USA Kalamazoo 7 inch is $800. Kinda hard to justify for a home gamer.

@patricelebrasseur5649 5 лет назад

for an horizontal bandsa ? that seems cheap to me

@sean6077 5 лет назад

there's one of these (porter-cable brand) on craigslist, near me, right now, for $60. SERIOUSLY thinking of getting it if it's still available when i get some extra money.

@Finn-McCool 5 лет назад

I always felt like Taiwan held to the USA supplied specs on the Delta commercial table saw and fence along with other manufacturers who made the "move" in the eighties. China it seems was willing to push the tolerances in order to get the numbers through the quality control department. Still I want a USA Baldor TEFC on any big machine I buy. And I want a Jacuzzi pump on my big compressors. But perhaps the times have passed me by....

@doinjusfine1 5 лет назад

Question = where can I find a list of American made tools ? Is there such a thing ? As I get older the importance of buying American products are becoming more and more important.

@hobbit321a 5 лет назад

wish i was close enough to get that old saw and repair it for you its a great saw i would give anything to have a saw like that in my shop its just over my budget i have to save for months to get our tools i saved for a year to get us a lift table for the larger generators and equipment we repair all the money we make goes to our land payment lol i know how hard it it is to equip a shop lol take care dont stop the videos

@bjr2379 5 лет назад

We all should try to buy Made in the USA, but it's becoming increasingly difficult. I spent 18 years working at a Wal-Mart Distribution Center. I don't know how many remember this, but EVERYTHING that Wal-Mart sold up til the mid ninteies was made in the USA... EVERYTHING. Ahhh, the good ol' days.

@TheSteveMeister 5 лет назад

The reason why people try not to buy foreign is the reason why I dont particularly want to buy American made products. Reason why, made in American ideally wants every component for the product to be made in American. Aswell as the materials for the the component to be mined in American. Like the metal that is cast, forged, or milled to be mined in American. Now America doesn't have unlimited metal supply. In fact often places that produce American Made products use diluted metal. Which is an alloy of the claimed metal. Why would diluting metal matter? Well it decreases quality substantially. It easily gets worn out fast, diluted stainless steel can rust, and the metal can break easier. Made in American doesn't have the same meaning anymore.

@fredkaminski6138 5 лет назад

Should have put brushes in the old one! Thumbs down! Anyone come go out and buy a new saw!

@AntonioClaudioMichael 5 лет назад

I have a few of there saws including there miter saw and circular saw work amazing

@JayKayKay7 5 лет назад

Here is the modern parable. I have a HP OfficeJet Pro 8600 several years old that the ink delivery malfunctioned after a two week vacation with it probably drying out. The only error message was " Turn it off and back on. Then contact HP." A new 8710 was on sale Tuesday at Best Buy for $99. $100 off. An extra set of inks was $104. Except for no LAN port which I didn't realize, I get a brand new printer now versus some obscure hope that the old one can be fixed by someone, somewhere, sometime, for some amount of money. Porter Cable makes some good stuff. Anyways everything is being shifted to Vietnam and Thailand anyway.

@110americalovingpatriot2 5 лет назад

I have a Porter Cable miter box saw that is 20 years old I barely used it and it still runs great but I dont know where the blade went and I bought a new Hitachi 12" sliding one to replace it but was wondering if I could put a blade on the PC to cut steel. Do you or anyone on here know if it will work?

@geebobwiz 5 лет назад

I'm right there with you. I go out of my way to buy Made in the USA products. They just last (lasted) longer... I still use Skillsaw my father used in the 70s for framing houses. Unfortunately, very little is made in the USA anymore and even those items "built" here have components made somewhere else (China). So what do you do? You don't stop working... so you buy what you can find. That's all there is to it. That said, I have had good luck going to garage sales and pawn shops buying up tools that were made in the USA. Last week, I bought a never used Porta Cable router for $40 made sometime in the 90s!

@dougankrum3328 5 лет назад

New brushes...$7-10....they usually only take a couple of minutes to replace....if commutator wasn't damaged...all is well, maybe check out the bearings...

@CPUDOCTHE1 5 лет назад

I have a Dewalt. It is not worth a flying %^&*. It won't cut straight at all. We built a CNC plasma table. I cut 42 pieces of 2x3x11 ga square tubing with the Dewalt angle grinder. Was probably slower than the chop saw, but MUCH more accurate. We have since got a 7x12 horizontal band saw. It will cut 1" round withing a couple of thousandths of an inch of square and flat. The chop saw is now in long term storage.

@fsecofficial 3 года назад

Buying USA usually means paying twice the price for half the features and it’s not always better. Grizzly for example US headquarters but all Chinese rebrands. Buying USA makes sense when you’re buying Starret vs Mitutoyo or Brown and Sharpe vs Wen. I’ve just learned that at the bargain prices expect some extra work and inspection upon arrival. Most of these tools are being replaced by robots in my shop so the hand accuracy is becoming less important. That being said I don’t need my tools to last a century. Just till the robots built. Great video thanks.

@duanelundgren7985 4 года назад

Call me what you may, my Home Despot 14" has served well... On appropriate occasion, I remove the hinge pin and install an axle, some spacers and a couple cheap lawn mower wheels. Then, when re-bladed with either abrasive or a diamond blade, I can make concrete cuts... adding water with the diamond blade even keeps the dust from becoming an attractive nuisance.. :-) :-) Just making do! Thanks for the video!!!

@greghaa 5 лет назад

I am sorry this is off topic of this video. I was watching your video about anvil repair, /watch?v=IKEG9YXjGgc, and was hoping you would tell me the type of welder you used. I have an old anvil with edges that are pitted and not that different from the anvil in your video. Any information about the type of welder and how powerful it is would be appreciated. Thanks

@rubenmar9596 5 лет назад

Hi there Mr I'm a great fan of yours, I live in South Texas and I'm looking to build a 20×30 pole barn or whare house (shop) what would be the most efficient and affordable way to do it? Thank you.

@MandoFettOG 5 лет назад

Alot of people commenting about repairing it. While that is a fantastic idea, people are forgetting that it's not just money involved... It's also time... And a few hours of repairs is not worth $109 if you ask me... That's a few hours better spent with grandkids

@dannyoktim9628 5 лет назад

The price is right but what of accuracy? I found saws with cast iron bases cut a very close 90 degrees but saws with stamped metal bases tend to ratchet when excessive downward force is applied when cutting resulting in a less desirable cut that requires extra attention. Fixing 20 or 30 cuts may not justify a few bucks saved! You have a great channel with a lot of time saving tips I have used. . . also I like the way U think. Just thought I'd add what I've learned . . . Danny O

@korishan 5 лет назад

This reminds me, I have an issue with one of our chop saws (not sure what make it is as it's 8pm and dark atm). I have tried different ways, but it seems that the saw always cuts slightly off angle. I can check the squareness with a square and it's fine. Start cutting, especially light steel, and it'll start to cut away from the saw/work/table and won't be right angle cut.It doesn't feel. It doesn't seem like the bearings are loose, not but jiggling the blade at least. I've even replaced the blade thinking that the blade was warping a little (was a cheap harbor freight blade before). Any ideas?

@deanaoxo 5 лет назад

If it is anything like the 6" sander, it won't last. Sadly, i've gone through more than i can count now. It's close to half a dozen in two years. The last one didn't make it 2 months. I'm still getting replacements from lowes on my original service agreement. Last time, i told them i would not pay the $20 bucks(you have to buy a new one each time they replace the tool) as it didn't last long enough, and they cheerfully refunded that money, so i could buy a new one on the new one, sigh. I'll probably get one of those like you have, though we had one just like your old one in the machine shop i worked at one year, and i loved it. Keep 'em coming, and yes, let us see what ol' word twisting Canuck of the North has to say about it...

@captmack007 4 года назад

Could have rebuilt the motor and paid an American 100 bucks, and given an American a job. The PRC thanks you for your support.

@JFatGlentract 5 лет назад

How will Porter Cable fit into Stanley Black and Deckers lineup now that they’ve acquired Craftsman? Doesn’t seem to fit anymore in my opinion.

@seephor 5 лет назад

You'd be lucky to get 5 years out of it but at $100, that's a lease of $20 a year.

@jfbeam 5 лет назад

Except for the downtime getting another one when this one randomly fails. (it might be good Chinesium, but I'd bet not. Everybody wants to make stuff as cheap ($) as possible these days.)

@gullreefclub 5 лет назад

If it was brushes or something else simple I would of fixed your old saw and saved myself some money. I will bet you a stick of gum that your Chinese Porter Cable chop saw will not last half as long as your Taiwan made Porter Cable Chop Saw good luck with your new saw but do yourself a favor don’t throw away your old saw because in a couple of years you will want to be fixing it when your new saw takes a 💩 on your work bench

@Dicer328 5 лет назад

So the brushes are worn out... and there I see that Porter Cable kept the brush access cover located right there directly in front for easy brush replacement. Too bad you didn't just fix the old one. This would be like replacing your car when the brake pads wear out.

@jimallen1485 5 лет назад

Hope that Porter Cable is nicer than the cheap junk Makita I bought a few years back. It still works but that doesn't make it any more cheaply constructed. In fact when they broke into my shop and stole everything the only thing they left behind was the chop saw.

@MoondyneJoe 5 лет назад

Scott why didn't you just replace the brushes, in your original one? you said that was The problem. its not hard to do then you could have the new one in the shop and original on your truck. Tony from Western Australia

@emsforlife444 5 лет назад

Can you even buy an American-made chop saw? A cursory internet search didn't bring me any results...I'm honestly curious.

@mickellis8747 5 лет назад

I find the pressed steel bases on those saws to be of very low quality and difficult to get a decent square and repeatable cut especially if you are cutting something on the larger size. The Dewalt I use has a very similar or exact same base to your saw. If only they made them with a better quality base and vice they would be a killer saw. It aint no Brobo I know.

@rapidrestorationsllc2764 5 лет назад

Great saw. Love the music on this video!

@TrojanHorse1959 5 лет назад

I have an old Porter Cable just like your old one, it's made in Taiwan too and still working. I'm betting that the new "Made in China" model won't hold up nearly as well.

@tonymazz9912 4 года назад

Harbor Freight sells them and there from "Chicago Electric " Oops---Made in China. LOL

@Keeter81 5 лет назад

Yes we get it. He could have repaired it. But remember he is also teaching. We got a video about old model vs new model. He's also going to tell us all if it breaks down in a week. That insight to the world is worth more that 109 dollars.

@fredm365 5 лет назад

You can get the brushes and the parts break down at ereplacemtparts.com ,then search Amazon with the brush part number ,,brushes are 7-9 dollars from ereplacement .com

@rubbermallet3873 4 года назад

having new equipment of your fav brand is a must but r/r some old brushes wouldn't be much of a problem for you, im guessing 🤔

@ed6837 4 года назад

I like the Milwaukee with the steel cutting carbide blades. The blades are a bit pricy probably 180 or so but they last if you don't beat on them and the best part is no sparks

@allanlavallee7171 5 лет назад

Appears you may have the same opinion of those so-called safety thumb switches as I do. Especially on a skil-saw they are the opposite of safe.

@dylanowens3173 Год назад

I bought a makita version made in Japan used for only $40. Hope that lasts 20 yrs too.

@daviddemoise3526 5 лет назад

I also try to buy American made tools especially but I kind of doubt anyone makes a chop saw in the USA anymore.

@TheRealFOSFOR 5 лет назад

mmmhm... Would like a Chop Saw too but that's a Chop Grinder... Don't want that.

@turboflush 5 лет назад

Porter's are good. Don't think as good as some other brands. But.. far better than house brand or harborfreight. I have many Porter's

@BigHayes7771 5 лет назад

Don't waste your money on abrasive and get the dry cut carbide saws it will pay for itself just from dust control

@ClintGrantham 5 лет назад

I try to buy American when I can as well. Buy sometimes the price difference is so significant I just can't afford to pass up the Chinese product.

@tomas5376 5 лет назад

Why not repair the old workhorse saw?

@munched55 5 лет назад

Why didn't you just change the brushes on the old saw for $5?

@TheBrokenLife 5 лет назад

I'm actually in the market for one of these and the price is hard to argue with... I might give one a shot. It's on sale on Amazon right now for $99, but last December it was down to $80. I think I'll keep my eye on it and see what the Christmas sales bring.

@thebeeveekay 5 лет назад

i have one of those. its garbage. its misaligned and the blade wobbles. horrible saw.

@doinjusfine1 5 лет назад

Same here.. but mine was a Dewalt that my whole shop used. Wound up replacing it with the same model number.. 8 years service in a heavy equipment shop.. not bad.

@SublimatedIce 5 лет назад

Curious; Were the brushes no longer available for the old one? I know for some brands its hard or impossible to get replacement parts, even for parts that are replaceable.