Cheap eBay Pink Sax vs Professional Selmer: What's the difference?

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In this video, Jeremy playtests a cheap, Pink Saxophone from eBay with one of the finest modern professional saxophones out there, a Selmer Super Action 80 Series III. Hear the differences in sound for yourself and listen as Jeremy breaks down his thoughts on whether the Pink Saxophone is actually good value for money!
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@igorschmidlapp6987 4 года назад

It's like starting to play golf. You don't usually go out and buy a full set of Pings or Calloways if you don't even know if you are going to enjoy it. Get a cheap that plays well enough, then upgrade as you go along and improve/dedicate to the sound/style that you want...

@fvneral666 3 года назад

I would say that if the pink sax was taken to a good luthier, new decent pads and corks, key adjustments, it would sound even better! I was impressed!

@SkylersRants 4 года назад

". . . Keys are lighter, all those professional differences . . . " To me, that's the most important difference. A good saxophonist can make a bad sax sound better, and a beginner will struggle regardless until his skill improves. To me, the most important part is how it feels on your fingers, and I rarely hear reviews talk about this.

@SuperSamu14 4 года назад

yes! I had a cheap Chinese sax, and it was very uncomfortable to play! They could even hurt my fingers!

@DynamixWarePro 3 года назад

@@SuperSamu14 I agree. I once had 2 cheap Chinese alto saxes and the keywork felt chunky and a little heavy and not very comfortable on both. The first was a Chinese copy of a Yanagisawa elite with the underslung neck which was decent and actually played OK minus the chunky keywork and the odd metallic smell it had which I have never noticed on any Yamaha or Yangagisawa I have played. The second sax was worse than the other as the palm keys on one opened way too far and it had sharp edges here and there and the high notes didn't come out at all.

@yannytheman 3 года назад

It would be interesting to compare a Mark VI copy from AliExpress (currently €325) vs an actual Mark VI. If it was 90% as good but for 10% of the price, that would make it a great buying proposition.

@ailishbethd4033 3 года назад

That's great playing my man! Yes the pink one does indeed have intonation problems, and when you changed the mouthpiece, boy what a difference. Thanks for the demo.😊

@peterpengelly3408 4 года назад

Hi. I was think about a chinese sax, however after watching many tube videos I shied away from that. I bought a Taiwanese Jupiter STS 787 tenor built in 1989. It has been well cared for over time and has a fairly good tone (although I can't do it justice yet). It is fitted with a Yamaha mouthpiece and I'm using a Legere 2.5 synthetic reed. So far I can play around 2 octaves and blow a good bottom Bb. Being long in the tooth my learning curve is a little flat (pun intended). Thanks for all your free content.

@kierenalvarez 3 года назад

Thanks so much for this quality video mate. I am looking to learn my first instrument. I turned my back with the headphones on loud on my first watch as soon as I saw you had no audio prompts for each instrument change. I am sorry but I couldn't tell the difference at all. I thought I could for a moment but after rewinding and trying to pick m which one with only my partner watching... I only got it right 3 in 10 times. Flukes essentially. The mouthpiece I couldn't really get a feel for differences.. So again the same. Ebay branding changes like that no matter the product. Thanks for the advice mate. Appreciate it alot.

@bshoulder 3 года назад

I think your advice to buy a second-hand Yamaha horn is great - Yamaha quality is legendary. I have an electric organ from Yamaha that I had played since I was seven or eight, and thirty somewhat years after, it sounds exactly as good as it did when I was a child. I currently play a Julius Keilwerth ST90 tenor. This Taiwan-made student grade horn is good for its purpose, but I do wish I had bought a Yamaha instead, as I hear that it plays more consistently. The trouble with purchasing a used horn as a beginner is that you don't know what to look for. My horn had to be serviced less than a year in because one of the pads was damaged, the service and repair charges, together with the purchase price, would have allowed me to buy a decent Yamaha horn... but as beginners, you wouldn't know how to look for pitfalls like those.

@bassax7045 Год назад

missed opportunity to play the ultimate sax piece ,pink panther theme 🎶

@wildman00sax 5 лет назад

In all honesty, for the price, it sounds pretty good. I know the quality and intonation on the Chinese horn isn't anywhere close to the Selmer, but that aside, it doesn't seem too bad, say for a backup horn or something to travel with.

@SaxTuition 5 лет назад

That's true! Thanks for your comment.

@spalding1968 4 года назад

SaxTuition if you get a dud cheap one from day amazon , send it back and order another one . The cost of repairing a dud one is more than the cost of purchasing a new one .

@5naxalotl 3 года назад

i'm thinking it's good if you play other instruments but have an occasional urge to pick up a sax for a few minutes

@Eduard_Kolesnikov 4 года назад

Got few months ago a Chinese sax, name for it - Midway mas700, I'm very surprised cause it doesn't have issue with playing in tune at all, well build, keeping it as my second one

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

Thanks Eduard, great tip!

@espr7564 3 года назад

The pinky has note or two that sound a bit out of tune, but this guy plays great, so what the hell 🙂

@IntuitiveSoul-bz2eo 2 года назад

The pink one sounds pretty good, but I did notice a difference in the accuracy of notes. I heard the difference. Still sounded pretty good.

@Robyn19fnq 3 года назад

The only reason I'm learning sax is because someone in the neighbourhood was moving overseas and had a Freedom alto they were going to dump. I suspect it has leaks, but it's still entertaining to me. An upgrade to a Yamaha would be my preference due to budget (and the fact that I'm approaching retirement age).

@mattdugan2000 3 года назад

Intonation of the sa80 is undeniable but the scrap metal horn will def get a student by especially for the price. Also it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have a cheap horn for outdoors gigs or where you could use an ‘expendable’ horn

@borisaranchuk2279 3 года назад

Nice video 👍

@SAZIZMUSIC 5 лет назад

Buying second hand is always the best value for money. I agree sir.

@wanhilman8676 3 года назад

second hand,but cheap violin works the best

@ray-jh8zl 3 года назад

Not sure if a second hand one is completely the answer. I guess if you get a good one. You have to watch out that you're not buying one that's been played pretty hard and needs work. Get a Mendini/Lararro/Jean Paul and an extended warranty. If it doesn't play when you get it, send it back and try another one. For beginners who might not stick with it, I'd go with a Cheap Chinese sax on Amazon vs. a used one.

@ronhendon6381 4 года назад

Awesome video thanks ! I have Selmer Mark VI saxes a tenor an Alto and soprano but bought a Tshan Winds Asian bari and it was really a good Bari and a steal for the money 👍

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

Thanks for the comment Ron, I'll check them out!

@anrianka 4 года назад

Do you mean its thaisan saxophone? i want to buy cheap tenor saxopohone, give me some opinion sir. Thanks

@SKVLE 4 года назад

Where did buy it?

@zippitydoodah8771 4 года назад

Taishans are great. I bought a tenor two years ago for $500 now they're already up to $800.

@saxmajor71 4 года назад

Having bought a Chinese horn about 15 years ago, I have to say, I'm incredibly impressed by what they're putting out now. Compared to the POS I had now, these new horns are freaking Mark VIs. It's great that kids that don't have much money at all can at least get started for so cheap, even if it will only last a couple years.

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

So true Dan, and I’m sure they’re only going to get better... There’s also some totally legit Chinese / Taiwanese brands like P. Mauriat that have gained popularity for making genuinely great saxophones for a fraction of the price of the competition. Hopefully the trend continues!

@frankibrahim8651 Год назад

Hi mate do you have any thought on the i&k alto as a beginner?

@noelbeltran2651 2 года назад

That Selmer is Smooth!! Krushed itnon both sax, Selmer all the way tho!

@selftaughtentertainment1893 3 года назад

What's the cost of the pink one?

@maverickdallas1004 2 года назад

If you can find a King Cleveland in good shape, they are some darn nice horns for the money!

@estebanvenegas89 5 лет назад

Is a reallt gooood video bro ty:)

@SaxTuition 5 лет назад

Thanks Esteban!

@christoguichard4311 2 года назад

I was waiting for the... "Get a Yamaha" mantra. I have both, and tbh, the Chinese horns have got so much better. They really arnt that far behind the Yams now.

@swaterous 4 года назад

I purchased a Lade alto saxophone a few weeks ago and found it to be a surprisingly well built instrument with great key placement and came with good seal on the pads. It plays in tune and I could play it on gigs no problem. The thing with all horns is experience and mouthpiece and really playing with the horn for a long time. I listened to the RU-vid comparison and found the Selmer to sound a little better but not by much because the player was experienced and a good player. Time will tell weaather it lasts or not but I'm going to play it for a while to see if it holds up and my sound stays the same as my Cannonball. Hope this helps

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

Thanks for the insight Stacey! They're definitely getting a lot better, and hard to beat for the price. If you're on a super tight budget and the choice is between an eBay sax and nothing at all, get the eBay sax every time 👍

@dinithipoornima7846 2 года назад

Can you please tell me an app to record sax songs without a mic. Because I don't have a mic . Is there any mobile app to get the sound as a mic/ studio ? Because when I record using mobile phone's default recorder , the sound doesn't feel as when it is with the mic... Plz help me

@Mc.Lovin3756 Год назад

I bought mine off Amazon and it sounds really beautiful but I’m probably going to get a better mouthpiece

@microstopitman 4 года назад

Awsome ebay alto sax Lager Australia

@raseshgandhi6702 4 года назад

Selmer is the best💯👍👏

@fluffybumpkins663 5 лет назад

I was seriously considering getting one of these and found this video in my search or a review. I never considered the face that the quality may change from saxophone to saxophone. I might just get a proper one and not an eBay one because it's pretty

@SaxTuition 5 лет назад

Thanks for the comment, really happy to hear you found the video useful!

@gordwrath6811 4 года назад

I was able to lawaway my first sax (A used Vito made in Japan, same factory as the yahama yas 23) with a local and reputable music store for $1100, I also bought my second sax recently, Its a cheap and used china sax I bought for $70 on ebay and is green, i only had trouble with the octive key as it was bent, but overall it plays great! But if it ever breaks I will always have my Vito.

@gordwrath6811 4 года назад

So I actually bought a green Chinese sax and 1 it came in an unplayable status (octave key bent, octave lever bent), 2 it took me a month to get the keys working (bent rods, plastic in the pinion screws) and 3 in that same amount of time I had to use a leak light to seal all of the pads and reform them. Along side of that the design overall is clunky, the key pearls are in awkward spots, had to shave the neck cork down, replace cork pads, paint is chipping off due to no exterior lacquer. Oh and it is out of tune by half a note on all lower notes. Every time I pick up and play my Vito (built in same factory as the Yamaha YAS-23) after playing the green one I sigh in relief of a good quality instrument. Sure it is a good buy for the price, but you have to fix it if it is out of sorts. No reasonable Saxophone technician will work on a cheap Chinese sax, you pay more for the service and there is no guarantee it will not go out of sorts quickly again. I suggest going to a music store and testing the cheapest sax they have, the mid range, and the higher end sax. The lowest rung sax will be 100x better than a cheapo chinese sax. Best regards, Gordo.

@thundernuggs6982 4 года назад

The selmer has more depth and it seemed to respond quite a bit easier I am upgrading to selmer tenor so I have been watching a lot of videos on selmer

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

Awesome! I’m sure you’re gonna love it 👍

@benjamintemeng8279 4 года назад

I just bought my Yamaha saxophone 875EX. Hoping it comes out good.

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

Congrats, that’s a fantastic horn! I’m sure you’ll love it.

@benjamintemeng8279 4 года назад

@@SaxTuition Yeah it's really nice and I think it's really plays well. It's my first time though 😁

@MrBoybergs 4 года назад

Tbh with the stock mouthpiece the tone is reminiscent of Scott Paddocks' sound...... Some players like that buzzy vibe. I don't.

@markusnasibsilalahi2617 4 года назад

Same

@madmattymayhem 4 года назад

How about a good sounding pro level used tenor sax that wont break the bank.... what would you recommend???

@lucaspanjaitan5066 4 года назад

Java saxophone

@DynamixWarePro 3 года назад

I would say a Yamaha YTS-62 or if that is a bit much, while not a pro sax but its plays very well and you can use pro necks on it, a Yamaha YTS-480. If you mean less money than those then I don't really know.

@hilalkadarusman9606 4 года назад

what is the way to blow it like saxophone in general?

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

Hey Hilal, check out Lesson 1 of the SaxTuition Beginner Series! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HMleowiZhk8.html

@Metqa 3 года назад

my ears are not "trained" enough ( meaning at all! LOL) to hear much difference other than the silver one sounds more bassy or like , I dunno , a warm hug. When he changed the mouthpiece, the pink one sounded more brassy to me.

@madmattymayhem 4 года назад

I used to be very good on alto sax about 35 years ago and then switched to guitar and have continued to play that every since. I've recently been missing the sax and want to start playing again. I had a Yamaha student model in high school and used a Berg Larsen mouthpiece and it never really got the growl sound I wanted. I want a professional sax now but don't have much money. What model used professional alto would you recommend? I'm looking for a David Sanborn or Mindi Abair type sound... Also... I'm already considering a Dukoff D7 or D8 mouthpiece unless you have more affordable suggestions. Thanks in advance and thank you for this channel!

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

Hey Matt! Thanks for the question. Without knowing your budget, I'd say if you're just dipping your toes in the water and you want a bright sounding saxophone, go with a second hand Yamaha - YAS-23 or AS-100. They're very well constructed and already play on the bright side. I know they're not professional horns but you can find them for less than $1000 (often $300-500) and in my opinion will outplay anything else in that category. Professionals often use them as their backup horns if their main axe is in the shop. Dave Sanborn plays a Selmer Mark VI, but unfortunately you'll be looking at at least $4000 for one of those beauties. The modern Selmer Paris horns are generally more classically focussed (apart from the Reference models), so my picks would be either a second hand Yamaha Custom Z or Yanagisawa (991 or 901). Expect to pay around $3000 though... As far as bright mouthpieces go, here are some other ideas for you: - Theo Wanne (check his full line, and the Mindy Abair signature model) - Jody Jazz JET - Claude Lakey (more affordable, brighter sounding mouthpiece) Let me know how you go. All the best!

@madmattymayhem 4 года назад

@@SaxTuition Yeah I know.... A Selmer MKVI is out of my price range at this time.... I was thinking a used King??? any suggestions??

@madmattymayhem 4 года назад

@@SaxTuition Also.... I think I'm gonna go with a tenor now..... What would you recommend for a used pro tenor sax?

@madmattymayhem 4 года назад

I'd love to get close to a Clarence Clemmons sound....

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

@@madmattymayhem I would look into the same saxophones, but just the tenor versions. The King Super 20 is also a great vintage sax which can run a little cheaper than the Selmer Paris horns. Remember, it's more about the player than the instrument ;)

@dinithipoornima7846 2 года назад

I am going to watch all the vedios that you have uploaded from A to Z. Actually I am not a good player. But I really love saxophone as a instrument and I want to play better. But honestly sax tutors are rare in our country. I have a saxophone to practice, but its not mine. I even dont know the type of it. But the sound is different from yours. I mean I have watched some covers of sax but mine is doesn't sound listen like that. Actually I am a dental student who loves music. Thats it. I Wanted to share my thoughts with you. 🤗❤️ Stay blessed

@SaxTuition 2 года назад

Thanks Dinithi! I know I mention it virtually every video I make, but if you haven’t watched Lesson 1 of the Beginner Series yet, that’s a really good place to start - here’s the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HMleowiZhk8.html 😊 I also have a ‘Tone Tips’ series on RU-vid that should help with improving your tone. Good luck! - Jeremy

@PhinAI 4 года назад

I play a 1926 Martin. It's sufficient for what I know.

@colleenwilliams8784 3 года назад

I had a 1926 Martin handcraft tenor in brushed silver. One of the loveliest sounding saxes I ever had but not ergonomically friendly on the keys. Built like a tank though & I enjoyed many gigs with it :-)

@tperry5839 3 года назад

Good

@RevbIGhIG 4 года назад

No mention of price? And a consideration: instrumental comparisons online are subject to computer speakers inadequacies -- no highs, no lows, terrible quality; hard to differentiate tonal variations.

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

Hi there! Thanks for the comment, these eBay saxophones generally go for around $350 - $500 USD, whilst the Selmer is around $3500. Point taken about the computer speakers - hopefully it will at least give you an idea about what to expect. All the best - Jeremy

@iViCMychael 5 лет назад

Is there a link for this saxophone?

@SaxTuition 5 лет назад

I think it might have vanished from eBay, but the brand of saxophone is called "Largo Australia". Hope that helps!

@angus5320 4 года назад

Just go on eBay and search for saxophone and it will come up

@jaredini 3 года назад

Aren't these the same Mendini ?

@SaxTuition 3 года назад

Hey Andy, they could be! I’m pretty sure most of them come from the same factory 😅

@kyrielextercanarecio4489 2 года назад

Good day sir i love you video and i love saxophone hopefully you could be a way for me to own a saxophone im tired of barrowing it is my dream to own a saxophone but i can't afford it 😔 Godbless you and your channel .

@SaxTuition 2 года назад

Thanks Kyrie, best of luck to you!

@nicolaswolfer298 4 года назад

if you like a cheap Alto Saxophone with good quality, I can share my experience with Jean-Paul Saxophone. it's great, under 500$ and the quality is good.

@SaxTuition 4 года назад

Awesome, thanks Nicolas. I've heard nothing but good things about those saxophones!

@madmattymayhem 4 года назад

I don't care what it looks like.... it can be beat up old brass with no lacquer left....I just want good sound and playability

@tboy5443 4 года назад

Hi, if You are looking for a professional horn that is better than Yamaha or the like that will not break the bank go for Ida Maria Grassi Saxophone. Wonderful, Professional 2000 or Prestige 2000 model.(Made in Italy). These are pro horn of repute . they can rival any Selmer Sax out there.

@josedecarvalho5459 4 года назад

Yeah that sounds very good but no saxophone is better then selmer

@blankpallet2435 4 года назад

THE SAME

@Vazare1 4 года назад

It is equal to selmer......so why I must to spend a big amount of my money?????

@Dagave 4 года назад

Nice.... but uncomparable..

@cratecruncher6687 3 года назад

Most folks toss the mouth piece that comes with these. Once upgraded with a decent mouthpiece and reed the Chinese horn is virtually indistinguishable from horns costing ten times as much. Sorry snobs.

@donadams8345 Год назад

You can't really compare instruments by listening to someone else play them, you have to play them yourself.

@jannievorster3371 3 года назад

It might just be that the problem fixing these Chinese saxophones lay withe the repair technicians. I own several saxophones and some of them is these cheap brands. If it needs a repair, I fix it myself and it's not rocket science. The worst scenario is to re fabricate a part and I suppose this is what every true technician is to be capable of doing.