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Cheap lens & pro camera, or cheap camera & pro lens? 

Christopher Frost
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The Epic Question Philosophers Have Wrangled With For Millenia. Don't take this video too seriously.
The original DigitalRev video: • Pro DSLR + Cheapo Lens...
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@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost Год назад
My wife and I are up for suggestions for similar new videos in the future heh heh :-)
@william240
@william240 Год назад
What is the digital rev royalyy free song called? I could never find it. Also u should try formats you've never filmed a video on before like m43. The gx80 i think is a great place to start as it does amazing 4k video for its price.
@sushrutachakraborty1136
@sushrutachakraborty1136 Год назад
Based on this video, you can perhaps make other videos like comparing same focal length lenses (say, nifty fifties) over the years, to show how they increased (or maybe decreased) in quality, ease of use and cost-to-performance ratio etc. Same can be done with cameras over the years where the megapixel stays the same (24mp in 2013 vs 24mp in 2023 for example).
@vladimirnikolov5114
@vladimirnikolov5114 Год назад
Great video and it was nice to see you in front of the camera, but I think more fair comparison will be to pair the R5 with new cheap lens with RF mount.
@jamesrkelly76
@jamesrkelly76 Год назад
How about the cheap camera, with the terrible lens, compared to a mobile phone!
@danncorbit3623
@danncorbit3623 Год назад
Let's hear what your wife's top ten lenses are. We have heard the ones that you like, but maybe she has different criteria.
@Durio_zibethinus
@Durio_zibethinus Год назад
Who's this gentleman with Chris's voice?
@jarodbleijerveld
@jarodbleijerveld Год назад
Bahahaha facts
@doklgab
@doklgab Год назад
Yeah and why didn't he say "howdy" ?
@anasameer6
@anasameer6 Год назад
Yes correct
@HezyTech
@HezyTech Год назад
No s required after the apostrophe
@PhilipBallGarry
@PhilipBallGarry Год назад
@@HezyTech 😂 we all love a pedant 🥰
@NintendoPlayBox360
@NintendoPlayBox360 Год назад
DigitalRev is what got me into photography. I still follow Kai and Loc. Great to see such an homage video!
@smashexentertainment676
@smashexentertainment676 Год назад
He is Lok )) And just a fun fact: Alamby is married and recently had a kid 🙃
@theizza68
@theizza68 Год назад
Love that signature Kai careless handling of camera gear 🤣 The cheap cameras of today hammer some of the high-end full frame cameras of yesterday. Third-party lenses of today aren't that far off either.
@bardofhighrenown
@bardofhighrenown Год назад
I audibly winced when he set the 28-70 down on the sand
@Augnos
@Augnos Год назад
@@bardofhighrenown SAME!!
@InterMaus
@InterMaus Год назад
Too bad there are no cheap cameras today anymore, entry level camers as they were, it's basically out the window... Less and less places even sell new APS-C DSLRs
@Augnos
@Augnos Год назад
@@InterMaus the R50 is less than $700, and has incredible specs for what it is.
@InterMaus
@InterMaus Год назад
@@Augnos don't know about you but compared to ~300$ of entry level cameras of yesteryear, that's not cheap.
@DixonLu
@DixonLu Год назад
Love the use of DigitalRev music. Hilarious premise for the hypothetical. One mistake is getting an expensive 60MP FF camera, then realizing diffraction sets in 1.5 stop earlier. No lens can fix that😁
@harrison00xXx
@harrison00xXx Год назад
As a R7 owner (80MP FF equivalent) and a F11 lens i can confirm that
@hypeuprise7026
@hypeuprise7026 Год назад
even with 60mp any lenses that are sharp enough won't get diffraction until F11 or so
@harrison00xXx
@harrison00xXx Год назад
@@hypeuprise7026 60MP is not much at all
@joeeusebio4847
@joeeusebio4847 Год назад
A collab with you, Kai and Lok would break the internet!
@PhilipBallGarry
@PhilipBallGarry Год назад
😂🤣. I'd pay good money to watch that!
@bardofhighrenown
@bardofhighrenown Год назад
Love the new video format! It's a lot of fun to see you do something other than technical reviews. Personally, I'd go cheap camera pro lens. Good glass is good basically forever, good bodies typically become 'outdated' after about 4 or 5 years.
@DartzIRL
@DartzIRL 3 месяца назад
Own an ancient EOS650. It cost me 30 quid. Bought a brand-new 24-70mm F4L to fit on it because somebody bought me a voucher for a camera shop for christmas without realising everything I own is obsolete. Now that's a thousand euro lens on a 30 euro camera. The results were stunning. Even image stabiliser' worked. I don't think anyone in Canon ever thought the combination would be joined together. But it works flawlessly. A bit extreme, but it gave noticeably better pictures that the original 28-80 I had.
@redheadphones6
@redheadphones6 Год назад
This was great! I also really enjoyed those DigitalRev videos, and really wish they'd have made more. This really nailed the feel of those, and was informative too. I'd love to see more in this style.
@DCFotographs
@DCFotographs Год назад
I was a huge fan of this style. Takes me back. Please keep these going
@stefansmuts8882
@stefansmuts8882 Год назад
Amazing! Please don't stop making these types of videos Chris. I thoroughly enjoyed this. It was absolutely terrible watching you lay down the 28-70 on the sand - such Digital Rev nostalgia. Please keep these kinds of walk and talk review/comparison videos coming!
@SCas-jr9qw
@SCas-jr9qw Год назад
Absolutely loved this vid, Chris! A new type of camera review with elements of your usual style, combined with a neat little wink back to Kai and Lok of the past haha. Nice to see a bit of an updated version of the original video. Would be nice to see you out and about shooting around some more in this way, though I'll always appreciate your top notch lens reviews! Keep it up :)
@benjaminlehmanphotography
@benjaminlehmanphotography Год назад
Absolutely loved this video, Christopher! Cant wait to see more like this!
@gabrielrezende8034
@gabrielrezende8034 2 месяца назад
I was looking for this exatly topic, thank you A LOT Christopher, top tier video.
@AlexanderBecker2009
@AlexanderBecker2009 Год назад
I guess it would have made more sense to compare the 28-70 f2 to the 24-85 f4-7.1 - so you would have compared two r lenses, one cheap and the most expensive zoom lens in the r-system.
@hsuray1304
@hsuray1304 Год назад
Or use camera thats from 1995 to pare with 28-70 f2
@harrison00xXx
@harrison00xXx Год назад
a fairer comparison would have been as well I think we consider for example the R7 or R10 with a RF-S 18-150 as well as budget lens with higher end camera. Since it was anyways FF vs APS-C i dont see the sense in comparing the worst possible lens from 30 years ago on a R5 vs a pretty decent, not even cheap camera from 2023 AND „superior“ glass All i can say this video is a bit misleading. Cheap glass is not directly bad. I love for example some super affordable, yet very good lenses. And except for a very few lenses (600mm 6.3 zoom and a 135mm 2.8, radioactive vintage lens from the 60s) basically all my lenses are noticable cheaper than my R7 And despite having cheaper glass, none of them is in any way too bad or worse than expensive glass: EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS USM, basically the only good performing „premium“ kit lens we have from canon. Asahi Takumar 50mm 1.4 vintage lens, cheap but awesome (just not too sharp but amazing sharp considering its from 1961 thanks to thorium inside the back element) EF 28-135, especially great on full frame, but not so much on APS-C Sigma 50mm 2.8 macro lenses, partially even 105 or 100mm ones somewhat cheap Canon 70-300 lenses, the older, cheaper 75-300s also on full frame usable and so many more! All of them cost anywhere between 20 to 200$
@officialtiimo
@officialtiimo 9 месяцев назад
I was thinking the exact same thing. I don't think it makes sense to compare two lenses for this if one of them is no longer in production and hasn't been for some time.
@themangix357
@themangix357 Год назад
Love this format of video. Hopefully we'll see more of it. Also that place where he's at is just wonderful. 🤩
@milletmongoose
@milletmongoose Год назад
Love this. What a nice homage to the old DigitalRev vids. Thanks :)
@AB_223
@AB_223 Год назад
I just watched that video for the first time yesterday and now here you are Chris. Nice! Love the comparison.
@PaprykowyMonarcha
@PaprykowyMonarcha Год назад
Fun and informative video Chris. I would love to see more videos in this format!
@harrison00xXx
@harrison00xXx Год назад
As long you make up your own opinion for a buying decision then… The thing is, you get a lot of cheap, yet good performing lenses as well, in the canon world just a few i have also experience with: ef s 17-55 2.8 ef 50 1.4 or 1.8 ef 28-135 is usm ef 28-105 3.5-4.5 many vintage lenses many canon lenses in general many 3rd party macro and portrait lenses I personally love a modern, faster body (EOS R7) and to use „budget“ glass like sigma 159-600 adapted or the RF 800 F11 or many listed above. The thing is you should not get too bad glas for a better camera, and this tamron 28-80 is probably one of the worst picks possible (just the raw numbers… over 30 year old KIT LENS for like 10$ or for free compared to a „cheap“ but modern, brand new 700$+ body? mount on the R5 in this comparison even a RF-S 18-150 and its outperforming the 24-70 F2 in most things
@ussser666
@ussser666 Год назад
This vid was so amazing and light-hearted as well as informative and insightful. Thanks for clearing the a lot of doubts, big fan over here! Cheers from Perú, Chris 😎
@igorrutsch
@igorrutsch Год назад
great to SEE you Christopher !
@dimalbion4386
@dimalbion4386 10 месяцев назад
Best RU-vid channel about lenses. Thank you so much for the great work you do. If I need a lens, the first move is to watch your video about it. It always helps me a lot.😊
@dzulk9
@dzulk9 Год назад
This feels like an invitation to Kai and Lok for collaboration! Love how the video is presented, the voice, music, script is indeed written in a way similar to DigitalRevTV! Really missed back then when everytime their video pops out, immediately watching their shenanigans lol. After they left, the channel did make more interesting video but less charm though. Thanks Chris for this nostalgic reminder!
@jimmynordstromphotography
@jimmynordstromphotography Год назад
This was just great, keep em coming :) I also loved those videos by DigitalRev
@OlegNikitin17
@OlegNikitin17 Год назад
Great to see you in the shot Chris! Awesome video! Keep it up!
@TheLordstrider
@TheLordstrider 9 месяцев назад
i am watching your channel from the first days you started, you helped me get some amazing lenses and seeing your reviews just make my days. i am kinda happy and sad at the same time. a realisation hit me that we both got old'ish. keep on your amazing work, there are many channels about photography but none can compare to yours. it's special :)
@vaskoobscura_
@vaskoobscura_ Год назад
Loved that Digital Rev reference. I watched that video back in the day too.
@Parag_26
@Parag_26 Год назад
Whenever I needed recommendations or reviews for Camera Lenses. Yours is the only channel I always come to. Thanks for your hard work and Keep Going.
@christopherfrost
@christopherfrost Год назад
Thanks!
@reheapification2
@reheapification2 Год назад
Life is chaotic, and I listen to CF’s voice for tranquility.
@richardrude2819
@richardrude2819 Год назад
This was fun. You nailed the humour of oldschool digital rev :D
@bonbon_ann2701
@bonbon_ann2701 Год назад
Man, that DigitalRev format made me all nostalgic >_
@JoaquimGonsalves
@JoaquimGonsalves Год назад
0:09 omg!! So glad to find a fellow DigitalRevTV fan. What a wonderful time. My favorite was their 7D torture test.
@Thomasmcse
@Thomasmcse Год назад
One of the important videos you have to watch as a beginner. Thanks for doing the test and showing everybody. 👍
@nathanbasset
@nathanbasset Год назад
I enjoyed seeing you so enthusiastic! Props to the camera person as well!
@rw3452
@rw3452 Год назад
Love this format!
@ogjbot
@ogjbot Год назад
The music at 2:35 !! Nostalgia!!!
@matthewtomich9766
@matthewtomich9766 Год назад
Love the video, great work!
@JarraxQ
@JarraxQ Год назад
Loved this Chris, I was also a fan of digitalrevTV content on RU-vid back in the day!
@johncordontravelstudiophot9608
@johncordontravelstudiophot9608 8 месяцев назад
Really enjoyed watching this “DigitalRev” style review, Chris! It was also great to put a face to the voice that we all know so well. Keep up the good work! 😀👍
@stevesharkey3312
@stevesharkey3312 Год назад
At extremes it was a forgone conclusion what would be interesting would be to throw in a balanced setup - say Canon R8 + RF24-105 f/4. I suspect this would smash it. The advantage of extreme setups is when you save the money you can upgrade the neglected half of the kit and you see a step change in results
@Chrisuu
@Chrisuu Год назад
I must say the production quality on this video was stagering. Superb job!
@TheMrKonov
@TheMrKonov Год назад
Can’t wait to see more videos like this. Love it!
@FitsTube
@FitsTube Год назад
DRTV taught me so much. Thank you Lok and Kai!
@andy.photoandfilm
@andy.photoandfilm Год назад
You definitely should do your reviews in this style from now on - also love the humor 😂 the asthmatic dinosaur really made me giggle.
@yenk82
@yenk82 Год назад
Very interesting video, it answers to many questions from us beginners I've just discovered your channel and I like it, I will keep watching many videos from you
@denkito1
@denkito1 7 месяцев назад
I bought Sigma 50mm f1.4 art lens for my Canon 7D. Based on your review. What a huuuge difference... Images from Sigma are from another league even on an almost 20 year old APS-C DSLR. I would definitely go cheap camera expensive lens over expensive camera and cheap lens. Although finding newer lenses for a DSLR is becoming very difficult. Chris You were my first photoreview channel to watch. Your delightful and pleasant and calm voice educated me in the field of photography equipment for morw than 10 years for now. Thank You so much for your work!
@MrTmiket0007
@MrTmiket0007 Год назад
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always, it's awesome to see you on the field making more awesome videos 👍👏🤗
@zachmerritt4668
@zachmerritt4668 Год назад
Thanks for the video, Christopher! I recently sold my Sony A7 III and picked up a Sony A7 RII and used the leftover money to go towards upgrading my lens to the Sony 35mm f1.4 GM. While I’ll miss some of the camera improvements the A7 III offered, my A7 R II has a higher resolution sensor and now I get excellent photos with my much nicer lens.
@SheenValentineLi
@SheenValentineLi Год назад
Love seeing you on camera Chris, hope to see more of these kind of videos in the future! One thing to note on more "expensive" cameras is the shooting experience. I love Fuji's style but their AF system leaves a lot to be desired. Bought myself an A7IV and never looked back. It's just so easy to capture what you want, it feels like it knows what subject you're trying to take a picture of. Other than that, more expensive cameras usually have more buttons, including front and back dials, and custom buttons for various functions. Just my two cents.
@gregrebuck3585
@gregrebuck3585 Год назад
This may be the only video I've seen of yours where you're on screen live! Nice one!
@janeholst6992
@janeholst6992 Год назад
Love the video Chris!
@gregfisher216
@gregfisher216 Год назад
Great video Chris ! There is no substitute for good glass! I have the EOS R and good glass and I get stunning images !
@pedrolinharesmachadomarchi1640
The background music is so nostalgic!
@CulturalCats
@CulturalCats Год назад
I love the nostalgic music at 2:36 lol
@blanked3
@blanked3 Год назад
I still remember that Digital Rev video from back in the day, weird for me to say but Digital Rev TV was my childhood lol, and they definitely were the inspiring reason i got into photography ❤
@CrashPCcz
@CrashPCcz Год назад
The digitalrev reference! Bhaha. Great content here.
@Chrisheywoodbrown
@Chrisheywoodbrown Год назад
I love this format ❤
@SunnySoCal
@SunnySoCal Год назад
it’s really cool to see the man behind it all showing us nice offerings 😁
@Lalvarez1223
@Lalvarez1223 Год назад
A face to the voice! Great job, please keep it up and continue this!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Год назад
What a beautiful place. Loved the video 🎉
@danfarmer_photo
@danfarmer_photo Год назад
Asthmatic dinosaurs in mating season 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 The best description of loud/slow auto focus EVER!
@stuartcarden1371
@stuartcarden1371 Год назад
Ah fun memories and the music is such a throwback!
@JZhao-jr1ur
@JZhao-jr1ur Год назад
Using 'asthmatic dinosaur in mating season' to describe the focusing of the lens is a legend
@aqimjulayhi8798
@aqimjulayhi8798 7 дней назад
“It sounds like an asthmatic dinosaur in the mating season” Hahahahahaha. Oh Chris, you and your sayings. Still, my favourite line is “this lens is about as useful as an ejector seat on a helicopter”. Love the homage to DigitalRev!
@dominiclester3232
@dominiclester3232 Год назад
Nice idea, thanks!
@gilleswalther5964
@gilleswalther5964 Год назад
That's actually an excellent question to ask, especially for beginner or when it's time to upgrade from kit lenses. Cheap or entry level camera + pro lenses makes more sense to me, when getting more dedicated as an amateur photographer. I had great time with a cheap camera like a Canon 800D, I rented a EF 24-70 F/2.8 for a week-end it was a game changer. Also, starting to build a collection of good lenses leaves open the option to upgrade the body at a later stage while keeping the same lenses.
@laurapeter3857
@laurapeter3857 Год назад
Love this video! Great homage to Kai and DigitalRevTV.
@photo_dude1686
@photo_dude1686 Год назад
Oh wow! The music really brings it home! 😅 I feel old now.
@subarusensei3685
@subarusensei3685 Год назад
I love the old digital rev review style makes it nostalgic and funny
@kenmoulin9691
@kenmoulin9691 Год назад
You only get out what goes in. Great content as ever.
@PetraAnimalPhotographer
@PetraAnimalPhotographer Год назад
Great video, Chris! Thanks a lot!💪🏆🏆
@admdanxsh1671
@admdanxsh1671 Год назад
in my opinion, if u are trying to be a photographer, focus on the lens. while videographers, focus on the body. I do believe the most important part of photography is the sharpness of the photo, while video you want the video to be as stablelize as possible and make sure ur camera has a minimal rolling shutter.
@PhilipBallGarry
@PhilipBallGarry Год назад
Lovely to see you in frame Christopher 👍. Right - on with the vid. Ok. Watched it all now. A very interesting and entertaining experiment there 👍. Next up lets see the EOS-R5 with that expensive lens and the EOS-R50 with the Tamron 👍😂 Seriously though - that's what I love about Fuji glass. I bought an X-T2 a few years ago which is practically ancient now we have the X-T5 but the quality of images are still outstanding 👍
@xtal22
@xtal22 4 месяца назад
Nice video christopher, i started my journey in photography a few months ago but i had to go waaaaaay cheaper, i bougth got a used canon eos rebel xs + 28-105 usm lens. now ive got a 50 mm stm which is giving me way better pictures but im having fun after all. Im looking now on save money to buy a good camera body and another lens, so this video gave me some ideas, thanks a lot!
@thb5505
@thb5505 Год назад
Fun video! Good to see you sometimes! Keep it up
@CaviteTechnology
@CaviteTechnology Год назад
I freaking love this video! I miss kai and lok in digitalrev just painlessly man handling the cameras back and fourth and background music is so nostalgic haha
@jamescaldwell5
@jamescaldwell5 Год назад
Another great video! Interesting to see the face behind the voice. Although, for my style of shooting, I disagree and am happy I invested in a full frame 61mp (sigma FPL). Finding deals on used lenses and finding high value prime lenses and vintage lenses is all part of the fun for me.
@exkoelner
@exkoelner Год назад
And combine this amazing information with the information, that much experience (cause of practice and reflections of the results) is much more important for creating a good picture then technical skills ...
@Deleted_Alt
@Deleted_Alt Год назад
"an asthmatic dinosaur in a mating season" is not a group of words I expected to hear today.
@drcruelty
@drcruelty Год назад
The autofocus is like an asthmatic what? 🤣 I hope you had as much fun making this old DigitalRev style video as we get watching it.
@ditchai-kaenthao
@ditchai-kaenthao Год назад
Very Good Review, I (From Thailand) Follow every video attentively.
@davidelang
@davidelang Год назад
it's worth noting that it's only been a few years since the highest end cameras exceeded 24Mp, the 5D mk 4 is only 30MP. I think the harder question is if you get a new lower end camera or a older high end camera with the same lens (this is really where the APS-C vs full frame debate can happen)
@classic.cameras
@classic.cameras Год назад
Loved this video. Do them more often. It was good and funny. Dahlek lenses do really suck.
@amitliss7433
@amitliss7433 Год назад
you're so nice! thank you for the lovely video! I was wondering about your thoughts on the dpreview closure...how? why???
@citrocar1028
@citrocar1028 Год назад
This is a great topic to discuss! Usually we buy cheap cameras and look for a good lens.
@berniecalo01
@berniecalo01 Год назад
I was holding my breath every time you switched the cameras around in your hands!
@yesthisisdonut
@yesthisisdonut Год назад
you make a great show host! loved this video
@lordsriharinarayan
@lordsriharinarayan Год назад
This is a fantastic comparison! Much more useful for one's worldview and understanding than one might guess. I would prefer however to see an EF-S 18-55 kit lens on the R5 or an RF equivalent, to compare the results as of today's tech. No need to go to an unnecessarily soft and old lens in my opinion. That said this comparison was very interesting as well!
@33antonius
@33antonius 10 месяцев назад
That is an excellent suggestion! I am using the new f4 lens and it is very sharp!
@RonK
@RonK Год назад
what a refreshing video, excellent! Poor uncle to end up in a fireworks factory, absolutely love your humor, lol 😂😃
@stevensproull9388
@stevensproull9388 Год назад
Love your videos! I am new to photography and I am about to buy a new Canon T8i (Body Only). I will be buying a couple of lenses that each cost about as much as the camera. I expect great results. In the past, I have been involved with precision rifle shooting. The sport has a saying- you want to spend as much money on the rifle scope as you do the rifle. Both are equally important. I think the same is true with camera and lens...
@chriss2295
@chriss2295 Год назад
Dear Chris, You are a natural in front of the camera. More please!
@talmholtify
@talmholtify Год назад
Love the video.... so fun.
@mbismbismb
@mbismbismb Год назад
my heart stopped a beat when u casually slide the L series lens into the bag without caps on hahahaha
@kai64
@kai64 Год назад
I love how you just casually throw it back into the bag without attaching the cap lol
@ericspeltier
@ericspeltier Год назад
Good lord! I never heard a word you were saying when you had that RF28-70 F2 out with no camera strap!! ;)
@Bo_Hazem
@Bo_Hazem Год назад
Enjoying seeing the man behind the elegant voice.
@aisback1990
@aisback1990 Год назад
All that was missing was the Nikon strap. Great video
@lordsriharinarayan
@lordsriharinarayan Год назад
What aperture are you using for filming this video? Thank you!
@pmc7105
@pmc7105 Год назад
I think the brand new R50 kind of outclassed the 30 year old Tamron lens, but still a neat video. Digital Rev also had a pro photographer/cheap camera challenge that was pretty good.
@manaphyex3964
@manaphyex3964 Год назад
Why the lens will appear more important to the result. I think it's because for the subject being photographed the lens is in front of the camera and the light enters the lens first. The lens is not capable enough, and even the best camera can't do anything.
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