Used to do a lot of this wax and plastic practice in 44mag revolvers back in late 80's to early 90's. Also did a ton 250gr cast 44mag with an light load of bullseye powder pinker loads. Even cast 44mag plinker loads are the equal of modern 9mm defense rounds but they used to cost nothing back in those days.
C&R was temporarily out of cases but I ordered a thousand wax bullets for $35 with free shipping. I can drill out a few primer pockets and just use small pistol primers like my dad used to do.
Had a buddy who (a long time ago) would get drunk with the Chief of Police and shoot the aluminum fishing boats in his store with those wax bullets. Put all kinds of dents in the boats. I also hear they used to drink and turn town into a go cart track. I guess those were the days. He died a year or so ago. Cannot say any of that was a good idea, but it does say something about how benign and safe we are these days. He was a larger than life person for sure.
When I was in the police academy, before the development of Simunitions, the instructors would load similar primer-powered .38 cartridges with cotton balls for use in force on force training. The cotton balls flew about 15 feet,. No damage when they hit, but you could certainly feel it. I wonder how cotton balls would work in those cartridges for force on force use?
How is the 856 holding up? I bought taurus revolver as my first handgun and it failed within the first box of ammo. That was in '08, heard they're better now from some, about the same from others.
Great video, thanks! In your opinion would these be a good in-home self defense option? Seems like at close range in your home these could still stop a threat but would also be much less likely to go through the attacker or walls etc. Still effective, but safer for everyone else around you. Thoughts?
They work well for all close quarters defense. As for penetration, a projectile capable of making it through a bad guy (as these do) will have enough energy to be lethal after passing through common sheet rock walls. Less risk than calibers/loads with more penetration? Sure.
Have you seen the Standard Manufacturing Jackal? it's a like a modern 22 snub polymer & aluminum Tommy gun. I know you arent a blowback fan, but they got 50 round drums & look like the back could be comfy on the cheek.
Dont want to get my dog shot. But based off the damage, couldnt these also be a viable alternative for a more quiet load for .38 special. Im thinking of something like this out of a break barrel rifle chambered in .357 mag. And are these safe to shoot without ear pro? Backyard plinking because of damage is probably off the table.
Is this at all similar to the training rounds that Precision Gun Specialties offer? Their website has very little information posted, so I've never been able to find out what their trainers actually are.
Great idea. Wont work well for me since i dont have a big enough yard and ita still illegal in my city. I just reload .38 for 20cpr to use when i get to the range.
These are cool but, I don't believe they are a good training aid. Recoil is the toughest thing to manage to get good with a firearm and shooting with no recoil for "training" does not transfer to a real 38 special anymore than "training" with a .22 transfers to any center fire round. In fact, I would say it will hamper your firing with your real rounds as your grip and focus will relax. If you can't afford ammo just carry a 22 lr anyway and train for real.
Very dope, thanks for sharing! & at 17c/rnd that's half the cost of an actual .38 special EDIT: how about just shooting the shotgun primer, & skipping the wax projectile?
@@ericbergfield6451 The only difference between shooting these shells without the wax bullet and dry fire is just how loud the "click" is. The difference between dry fire and pulling an "air trigger" is much more vast.
