Cheap vs. Expensive Analog: Can You Tell? 👂

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Howdy! Today we're here for a battle between my most expensive analog synth, my cheapest analog synth, and a free plugin - turns out it's not so easy to tell them apart!
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0:24 Howdy
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@VenusTheory Год назад

How many did you get correct? 😅 EDIT: Looks like Donner has since changed the price a bit - sorry about that! This video was filmed over a month ago and they didn't bother to tell me... 🤷‍♂ Donner B1 (Use DOVENUS to save 15%) ► shrsl.com/3m8s9 New video coming next week - finally published this now that they're back in stock!

@Zer0Spinn Год назад

Hey brah, wat mic do u use? 😎

@HorologicRannygazoo Год назад

I used a super-scientific idea... The one that sounded the most "digital" to my ears would be Vital, the one that sounded "cheapest" (clipped, muffled, over or under filtered) would be the B1, and what was left would be the Polybrute. I scored 4/15 -- one less than you, and NONE of my correct answers were consistent, lol. My observation: the B1 makes much better 303 sounds than I thought it would. . .

@ts4gv Год назад

heard differences sometimes. not a chance identifying em.

@mitechko Год назад

I wasn't going to tell a specific synth without having first hand experience, so I was just trying to see how many distinct differences I can find. In test 4 Vital saw wave has significantly less base. But in test 1 it is not significantly different and B1 stands out with more high end harmonics. In test 2 the envelop on Vital is tighter and the resonance is more acidic. The envelop tightness follows it into test 3, but all filters become squelchy in that one, I assume you raised the res higher. In the last round, it feels like B1 filter produces less squelch compared to the other two, which is a bit counter-intuitive. I am not sure if it is a problem with YT audio, my ears or my phones, but it feels like some of the tests almost contradict each other. Like the raw saw wave in tests 1 and 4. Or was one of these sampled and one native in Vital?

@ToreHansen Год назад

I did not try, after failed on Cherry Audios test on the homepage.

@simonpreston Год назад

As with any of these tests. They're pretty much always blind guesses. And sums up what we probably all already know: only synth heads really give a sh*t about what synth was used in a song. Your listener at home won't know or care, as long as it sounds good.

@VenusTheory Год назад

👏exactly👏

@SpeccyMan Год назад

On the puny little speakers on this laptop they all sounded pretty much the same to me anyway.

@mrdali67 Год назад

Depends on the ears also. I could clearly hear the difference between the recordings listening on an iPhone X and those speakers arent stellar quality either, but the point is still the same. If you don’t know the different synths very very well, as only a true autistic analog freak will it will at best be a guess, and absolutely noone is gonna be able to tell them apart in a finnished mix unless you exactly know how the mix has been processed.

@daw00t Год назад

*dumps audio from youtube* ... *loads into audacity's spectrogram* I CAN SEE IT IN THE PIXELS

@nickthane Год назад

I could definitely tell me my expensive analogue synth versus a free plugin in a blind test. Mostly as my analogue synth crackles every time you look at, the right channel is twice as loud as the left and the background hiss is deafening

@VenusTheory Год назад

Should have simulated the connections failing or the circuits needing dusting 😅

@stmusic2164 Год назад

@@VenusTheory There are plugins that actually have that shit lol.

@Babe-mh5gw Год назад

It’s great to see Penus Theory making excellent content as always

@rainbowkrampus Год назад

There were distinct characteristics to each. The problem was that I didn't know which characteristic belonged to each synth beforehand. The B1 always had this weird resonance way up in the top end. The Vital was always a little on the dark side compared to the Polybrute, kinda like the difference between a ribbon mic and a condenser. They each sounded fine though. It's not the kind of thing that makes or breaks an instrument once it winds up in a mix. I did find that resonance from the B1 irritating though. Not sure if that was a B1 thing or a me thing but I noticed it right away and it's hard to ignore.

@wanderer5438 Год назад

I'm extremely curious how Vital sounds "darker" to you than Polybrute on test 4 for example... Polybrute being the first synth and Vital being the third in that test.

@darksiderahb Год назад

I think what this video reminds me is that if you already have a blip bloop device, go make something with it. Yep, it’s nice to have a $3000 synth. But you can own a $150 synth or a free plugin and make stuff now. Don’t fret over “the sound” cause even professionals can’t really tell the difference and the tools matter less than what you make with them. Great video.

@GeorgeL909 Год назад

One of the most lush pad sounds I've ever heard was a 90s Casio plugged into a moderate-high end reverb pedal. It broke me as a man and made me re-evaluate my moral compass. I mean... It wasn't even a cz-101 or something actually synthie. It was like one of those rompler ones. Never underestimated the power of effects and context after that...

@Gnurklesquimp2 Год назад

Those old cheap casio sounds can have some character, I'm gonna download a ps1 reverb impulse response I just learned about later, same thing about context there. Also, tell friends to give you broken microphones and cables etc., they can create some cool low fidelity sounds as well.

@randymeredith Год назад

This was a fantastically engaging video. You are the only one l’ve seen online to perform such an interesting test. Thanks for your hard work putting this together.

@krazywabbit Год назад

This is a great video. I actually opened two windows, one with your video paused on the results and the other playing back after I failed this test. What I thought was the Polybrute was the B1. Personally, I like the sounds of the B1. Someone else will love the Polybrute. These videos are really good to show that the gear is really not that important. Nicely done sir.

@BNLNRD Год назад

Same! The B1 is noticably bassier than the other two and I really liked that

@AndreasR86 Год назад

I'm also a bassist and guitarist. There's also lots videos comparing this bass or guitar to that or whatever. And don't even start on "tonewood" on electrics. Here I think the same thing as with those videos: First, there's going to be some differences in the sounds and characteristics. Second, the average listener isn't going to hear them or care. Third, I'm probably not going to pick them out in a blind test myself.

@VenusTheory Год назад

Hey you leave my maple fretboard out of your mouth! It's the tone man!

@AndreasR86 Год назад

@@VenusTheory everyone knows rosewood has a warmer toan because it's darker and therefore absorbs more heat

@vgod4eva Год назад

Like a number of others have said, this is an interesting video for so many reasons. In the end, it always comes back to the same thing: the music. You can make great music with almost anything I suspect. Your video is also a good reminder that there's a lot of marketing out there, but once you've got the basic set of 'things' on your palette, you really don't need to keep buying stuff! Thanks for the really honest video, we all need to see and hear more of this.

@lebronzejames9738 Год назад

Love your brutal honesty you teach so well, your sense of humor hits my funnybone in a good way :) thank you for giving everyone, myself included, continued inspirational musical drive - stay true to you :) your commentary on the filter giving the synth it's character I find to be spot on, there's a few synths like Z3ta that on their multi oscillator goofed by not having (on 7 voices) a voice in the root, so they split 4 low 3 high where I've seen the oscillator being an issue but as always you're dead on :) so many "armchair captians" these days - your channel is always a breath of fresh air thanks!

@najati Год назад

Really interesting video. I didn't try to guess which was which, but instead I listened to each test a few times, listening for which one I liked the most, marking down my preference order, going through a few times to try to make sure it was consistent and ... 5/5 I liked the B1 the most, which was ... really surprising given how much I've been jonesing for a Polybrute. The PB obviously has much more in terms of ... everything, so I wonder if it could be shaped into something more pleasant to my ears than these kinda raw tests.

@beyondalldreams Год назад

I thought you were still on the vacations , good to have you back ! 💪🏻

@VenusTheory Год назад

Still on a break! This was filmed like a month ago and I was waiting to release it until the B1 was back in stock. Actual 'new' video coming next week!

@jigawatt7126 Год назад

Lol the poly brute was what I guessed right every time. It sounds amazing and has the perfect amount of warmth. Very pleasing to MY ears

@ZaneAlexanderNC Год назад

After owning my 1st synth for 1.5 years, I found the UI to be even more important. If you dont enjoy the interface, it probably doesn't matter how good it sounds and, for the sake of your wallet, you may be better off with a great controller.

@modeswitching Год назад

Exactly this. It’s why I find the PolyBrute and Super 6 so inspiring.

@HorologicRannygazoo Год назад

This is why I have an Arturia Keylab MKii 49 and a slew of soft synths. I love the feel of the keys for playing, the integration with the DAW is pretty good, and Vital and Serum are for sounds. If you're into the knobs and sliders, then yeah, the Polybrute is still worth every dime.

@kp8923 Год назад

I think about this all the time regarding the Peak. I adore the sound of that synth, probably my favorite sounding synth I've owned personally, but I sold it after a few months because I hated using it. I don't even know how to quantify something like that, I just didn't gel with it.

@KiR_3d Год назад

Hello, guys! I'm struggling with a dillema: to buy or not to buy DeepMind 12? For me it sounds good... But I don't like that it doesn't allow sine and triangle waves and doesn't allow oscillators to modulate each other. Also I'm not sure how good it is in terms of UI. I could (squeek my teeths a bit!) buy the used Polybrute. But it seems that it takes pretty much space. It's pitty that they've didn't made a compact module. You can tell me if I'm wrong here. Please.

@kp8923 Год назад

@@KiR_3d For me the lack of FM is a no-go. I'm assuming you could modulate the oscillators with an LFO assuming it runs at audio rate, but then you're using up an LFO... Have you tried the Neutron? It's monophonic so it's maybe irrelevant to your needs but I love that thing.

@AGDugros Год назад

Very interesting and I love your honest opinion. Thanks

@themattschulz3984 Год назад

Thanks Dave, without you we would not have this great video at all :)

@JoshHumble Год назад

Very cool comparison - love the deep dive. Really, I think each one sounded better than the rest, depending on which test.

@cheezeofelune Год назад

Wholesome and heartwarming content!!!

@JH-pe3ro Год назад

Just listened casually on laptop speakers, no repeat listens. I knew they were different, but without any familiarity with the synths in question or using cues like volume or noise levels as a lot of comments did, I stood no chance. There was a video I saw here on YT years ago ("How I Made My $200 Minimoog") where someone demonstrated how they customized a generic MIDI knob controller into a fake-woodgrain Minimoog panel driving a VST by printing out some stickers. I think that kind of placebo is exactly what a lot of gear addicts need. You can make a cool looking and practical control surface by setting up an easel or floor desk with a bunch of controllers, macro pads or shortcut remotes, and a little portable touchscreen or a drawing tablet(for that Synclavier light-pen feeling). When you get bored with it, rearrange or swap out a piece. It's not the actual gear, its capability or vintage, it's the Hawthorne Effect: change up the workspace and you feel happier with it.

@Wayne_Robinson Год назад

The actual sound used in a mix would presumably be tweaked in the patch and with EQ to suit the context. I'm not sure how much the basic sound would mean in that case but this was still an interesting comparison that makes it clear that the character comes from the filters as you said.

@Milan____ Год назад

I was literally just thinking about watching some Strong Bad emails, so thanks for that intro!

@avationmusic Год назад

I got 7 correct and to be honest I can only really tell the difference between them with the filters (of course) and when you get to super low notes. the analogue synths seem to handle and play those low notes a lot smoother whereas i could hear the wave's individual oscillations in quite an unpleasant manner with vital. Interesting results!

@DaveDickens Год назад

Great video! Cheers Dave

@aiaccident Год назад

Fantastic entertainement! Thank you!

@buhh_404 Год назад

loved this video mr theory!

@awojunior Год назад

Your intros always make me laugh. Thank you. 😂

@alcl7374 Год назад

When you are working on a song over time the sound changes. Your whole auditive conception changes for that song specifically. From then on It will only get worse. Now we watch this man. Spending so much time in listening to details. Listening to synths. Understanding the design of sound. A man sacrificing his own ears for the community. Take a beak man. You deserve it.

@HOLLASOUNDS Год назад

Loved the video and I could not tell which was which but more importantly, what mic do you use?

@RobertCorrington Год назад

You're in good company... I could pick out the B1 most of the time, but couldn't tell any difference betweent the other two. The B1 samples had a little more sub-bass, especially on the lower notes.

@svenhegenmusic Год назад

I would have had no chance to tell wich one is wich, but after checking back with the results, I found that the sound I tend to like the most in those comparisons came most likely from the polybrute. Main reason being the richnes in the low-end and the way the filter sweeps work. One good example is the last note on the Test 5 pattern. Vital just suddenly stops the note, B1 overemphasizes the low mids and bass frequencies, but also really fast. Polybrute on the other hand has a soft curve and gently fades out the sound. But on the other hand, adjusting the curves and release times so fit can make this difference entirely negligible.

@jfklmk13447 Год назад

I've had a debate years back with a synth head and I basically arrived at the conclusion that once the synths are in the song & mixed there's basically no way you can tell one from the other (it's still possible)

@1000sofusernames Год назад

Any hobby is at least 50% arguing that you can tell the difference between things you can't tell the difference between.

@MoogDoog Год назад

The closest I can get is either comparing it to famous patches from bands where I know they used a certain synth and being "Okay there's a chance it could be that" or listening to osc/ filter characteristics and being "This sound would be pretty easy to make with a ___ "

@EnervatedSociety Год назад

This assumes a busy mix but your exception is noticed.

@normdurkin6425 Год назад

..you have no idea what you are talking about.. lol

@AutPen38 Год назад

Indeed. There are hundreds of songs where even something definable as the "303 squelch" turns out to have not been made with an actual TB-303. As well as the hardware "clones", there are loads of software tools that sound similar enough to trick us into thinking the music was made with the little silver box. In a direct A/B test we can discern differences between synth sounds (and even have a preference of one over the other), but as this video proves, we can't always identify which synth was used for each version.

@BNLNRD Год назад

Successfully picked out the B1 each time, thinking it was the Polybrute. That Low End had something classy about it... The other two sounded pretty same-ish a lot of the time (at least without the filters), and I never knew which was which

@haus_cat Год назад

I think I want more analog stuff cheap or not , that stuff is to fun.

@floatinganarchychannel3204 Год назад

Great video thanks! Wating for you noodling with the new arturia dist coldfire ;)

@jpsteinberg4870 Год назад

After 2 decades of making music with a dekstop, I decided to go back to outboard samplers, drum machines, synths and sequencers. Just bought the Donner B1 for a really good price and I'm looking forward to making some basslines. Next purchases will be the Bastl Microgranny, Korg SQ 64 and the Erica Synths LXR 02. Would love your opinion on those few pieces as a re-starter setup. In the past I've only ever owned an MPC 2000, Yamaha CS1X and a few modules and now I am getting myself off of MPC software and Cubase except for recording and mastering.

@NeonShores Год назад

The shirt color matching is fantastic.

@modeswitching Год назад

PolyBrute came out of this looking like a champ, which kinda surprised me. It nailed the squelchy sound on the last test.

@atp19xx Год назад

I watched this now and it's midnight. I tried to do all this in my mind alone with DT 770 Pro's and I could tell the difference in sound (but not necessary the quality of the sound) between the 3 but it was definitely not that obvious. I have to watch and pause this again tomorrow with fresh brain and some notemaking tools at hand. Was the end graph the correct answers? Didn't pay too much attention to it so it's easier to forget.

@enchanterthetim Год назад

Would have been interested to see on screen which one was playing and what you guessed. or at least at the end see the graphic with which was synth was which so we can see if you consistently mislabel polybrute as vital but then get the others wrong for instance. Thanks Penus Theory!

@needfortweed8734 Год назад

I got the B1 correct in the first round. It just sounded squelchier to me. I didn't make a note as I went along (I just kind of expected the results to be presented at the end of the round)...

@davespicer2143 Год назад

I got two right, 1 completely wrong and mixed up the polybrute & B1 in the other two... Round 1: Poly, Vital, B1 Round 2: Poly, Vital, B1 Round 3: B1, Poly, Vital Round 4: Poly, B1, Vital Round 5: Vital, B1, Poly Not a compete disaster considering I neither own or have even played with any of the above before! Great video Crazy V! ;)

@AD-Dom Год назад

Great intro jam.

@antonioruiz1286 Год назад

This video and the PC-setup one got my like at the 5 seconds mark.

@BurgundyKRO Год назад

This kicks ass :)

@tonyrapa-tonyrapa Год назад

Welcome back *enus Theory!!!

@thefloop2813 Год назад

I was so confident i got em right and you Didnt. At least you nailed 1 of them though. That b1 is really impressive for what it is.

@SlaserX Год назад

Does the B1 do the 303 thing well though? I have a nubass, and it doesn't.

@PeterKudelin Год назад

i had the exact same answers as yours, and pretty much had 0 confidence i would be right. glad i was right about being wrong!

@EximiusDux Год назад

They all sound different but it's impossible to tell which one is which because i never heard them before. This is like guessing the brand of a monitor (flatscreen), while they all stand next to each other with all markings and branding removed: "yeah... it looks flat... and that one produces more red...".

@TheRealMacAndCheese Год назад

I love your videos but my wife really loves your intro's and asked if you could put together a compilation video of all your intro's. :) haha

@ToreHansen Год назад

I failed on Cherry Audios test, so will not try again...but great and funny video. Perhaps the most revisited video.

@rockhills Год назад

Do you think perhaps you'd get different results if you were listening over studio monitors vs headphones? I've heard synth heads say hardware synth "hit harder" on speakers than software does.

@snaildamnefy8298 Год назад

I got 3 right always mixed up polybrute or vital with b1 except round 4

@nicjab Год назад

I pretty much got vital right and poly & b1 the opposite way round every round. So what does it mean? B1 is warmer than polybrute?

@MinasC Год назад

Found most of it! The secret was to gamble :D Nice video, pretty much to the point!

@hugocaldeiravinagre Год назад

if you play legato will it slide from one note to the other ?

@Zer0Spinn Год назад

I was just as wrong. We even had the same guesses in some tests, I wonder why... I was focusing on how thick and bright the osc sounded and how the filter (especially the resonance) changed the sound. My guesses were: 1 Vital-B1-Poly 2 Vital-B1-Poly 3 B1-Poly-Vital 4 Poly-B1-Vital 5 Poly-Vital-B1 All I gotta say is that I'm scared of waking up one day and finding out Vital was just a dream.

@doubledeucedrums Год назад

Really Funny 👍👍👍. Subbed 😊

@paulgatt2950 Год назад

Truly next level intro.

@DmitryPuffin Год назад

I stopped caring about actual sound of the synths and started to focus on features and reliability. Nowadays digital stuff can sound as awesome as analog, but with more neat features to play with. I always hit around 50% mark in blind tests like that, so that means that its just pure luck 🤷‍♂️

@ivansoto9723 Год назад

Honestly hardware digital stuff is awesome. I've got a KingKorg and it sounds great for a VA mixed w digital and is fun to program. But I've recently been getting into romplers, the 01/WFD for pads and it oozes character. You just don't hear things that sound like an M1, Wavestation etc. anymore. I wonder if the newer Wavestate is any good.

@synthsandcats Год назад

13/15: I'm quite familiar with the Polybrute because I play mine every day. The filter algorithm is a dead giveaway between the plugin and the B1, but I mixed up the two on test 1 :( I don't think the test really matters or says anything, personally, as they are quite different tools and useful in vastly different cases. - My Polybrute is home and is inspiring to use, has easy sound design, and is my go-to for performing or jamming with others - Vital (or Serum, Pigments) are bad at emulating one piece of gear, but they can go places that no analog can go and have vast libraries available online of presets if you're not comfortable with sound design - The Donner B1 is a cheap and fairly decent 303 sound. If you specifically want that sound and a VST doesn't do it for some reason, I don't see why not, but personally I wouldn't ever get one when I have a Polybrute and EQ+distortion plugins

@peternielsenmusic6498 Год назад

I got one correct on each round.... mostly picked out Vital, but in 2 rounds it was the B1 so... I did pretty bad too.

@kabedford Год назад

Great to hear from Mrs Theory! 🦑😀

@yove2934 Год назад

Awesome video! My score is 9 out of 15. 😅 You definitely hear the 303's Filter character, especially in the last rounds with the filter envelopes. PS Off topic, but maybe crucial! At 2:45 something interesting and mysterious happened. Out of nowhere, some white organism showed up in in the left part of Camron's moustache. Have we just witnessed the birth of a new species or was it just a bread crumb which got lost in the matrix? Fascinating 🙏

@musician1971a Год назад

I did bad as well. I think that not knowing the settings also makes it harder because you can't kn ow what to expect. The envelopes and cutoff were vastly different in each and the same for resonance. That makes it really hard to blindly choose the correct synth in a blind test.

@ghaydn Год назад

If you like VItal so much, you should try Din Is Noise. It's an old and very outstanding thing that uses it's own way to synthesize sounds, nothing like traditional synths.

@henriquematias1986 Год назад

The one you got vital right i felt it was not level matched and felt weaker prolly cause of that which also made me think “that’s the VST” but i guess if you match a little better it would be impossible

@AlOne-xg6dv Год назад

Cameron smiles. It's new. A break is a good thing to build a new energy.

@Schnappelini Год назад

love this intro

@phrankus2009 Год назад

The "Take-Away", here, for me, is that every sample (patch, voice, etc.) has it's own, unique character and finish. ANY "sound" can be nudged and massaged, more, towards a "personal ideal". CONCLUSION: Grope for the most efficient path (of least resistance), to get as close to your ideal "paradigm" as is practically feasible, given your budgeted time and resources. ... Make it happen as soon and as easily as your vestment requires/allows.

@phrankus2009 Год назад

REDUCED: If you can "get it done", in 5 minutes, with a rubber band and a tin can, then do so. IN ONE ACRONYM: K. I. S. S.

@markoburrows Год назад

Excellent....I laughed and laughed...

@Vallosick 7 месяцев назад

Just tried to take this test. I got Vital right in every round but couldn't really tell where was Polybrute and where was B1.

@aaronappling4754 Год назад

What mic do you use?

@Curious_Skeptic Год назад

Always silly to me as no one ever plays synths without effects. 🙃 Pump the cheapest synth through a good affects until, they all sound wonderful! You are right though. Filters and quality of such really make the synth what it is. I love synth with cross modulators especially. Rolands little jupiter 08 boutique !

@stefanwessel6092 Год назад

hey Cameron! I think you. would have done better if you heard the examples with speakers in a room. I guessed 7 right, and a lot was how the sound "resonated" and moved between the speakers, how the phase relations sounded. I think this helped picking out the "richer" and more "expensive" sounds...

@treyhudson73 Год назад

The video doesn't make you look like a jackass...the intro handled that just fine! 😳🤣😂

@hhal9000 Год назад

I could at least hear that there was a difference each time to the 3 synths, much more so than say listening to different amps in a hi-fi demo situation.It was more like auditioning different speakers to take this analogy further.

@Gnurklesquimp2 Год назад

This stuff is HARD. The other day I made a patch in Harmor and I'd totally guess it's expensive analog, then I've heard analog patches that felt kinda more like cheap digital. I feel a lot of it comes down to getting the more flattering aspects out of a filter while also sticking to classic techniques, stuff like that. The only one in this video I felt instantly confident about was the Vital one with the high end, just like you

@RahulRajBodraBAENGSEM Год назад

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@KiR_3d Год назад

Was the Polybrute's OSC with that bassy saw sound? Actually it's very easy to be fooled with a very good VST synth... untill you'll hear the highest notes and the filter on different octaves and resonance values. Emulations tends to sound "flat" on filters over the whole range. Although an emulated filter can sound very very good, it's usually fails when you use a high resonance values and overdrive it's input. Highest notes of the emulated oscillators can sound aliased or "rounded". "This or that" but almost never crisp and _not aliased!_ It's due to PolyBLEPs algorythm which is the best for anti-aliased oscillators. I know the other possibility to sound "ideal" in the emulation but you can tell it and we'll discuss ;)

@Hermit_ Год назад

This confirms for me, again. That I really really dont like the sound of arturia synths, and it still sounds the best in this scenario.😅

@TraxtasyMedia Год назад

This was a cool video seeing you guessing the synths and sadly failing at it. But I think you should sometimes do videos with your wife together in the background. :D

@nothingsuss6662 Год назад

My main take away from this test was that I should maybe consider exploring an analogue synth. Since I have no idea what any of this gear sounds like, I just picked my favorite and least favorite from each test. In all tests except the last one, Vital was my least favorite by a long shot. The last test was more difficult for me though and I didn't have a clear preference. I found Vital to have that same sort of ear fatiguing "hardness" that I regularly hear from my own Omnisphere 2 VST. Anyone else out there feel the same by chance? As someone who has been purely digital for a long time, this was really eye (ear) opening.

@Sebastianandthedeepbluemusic Год назад

listening in the background I knew test on test four vital synth for sure, there was a few envelopes that prob would give it away on the other test but was Makin tea haha

@rainbow_mess 7 месяцев назад

I'm a year late but I got 1, 3, and 4 fully correct :O on 2 I flipped vital and the b1, and then my answer for 5 was totally messed up. Maybe it's just a random distribution of randomness that I guessed properly more on, but I thought I was able to follow them all around pretty decently.

@terrordisco2944 Год назад

Hey! Weren't you supposed to be on vacation? Anyway, I did the absolute same as you, so... yeah. interesting. A speed round through correct answers (with bits of sound) would be a really fulfilling end to something like this, so you can kinda compare your biases to what's real.

@christhedemocrat Год назад

They all sound close. They all sound good to my ears. I actually have the desk top Uno Synth and i love the bass sound coming out of it more than my more expensive Synths. Only an audiophiles could probably tell the difference. I hope i never become an Audio snob. I can appreciate the debth of a Moog but i love my Korg M50 A good sound is a good sound. The average person don't care the name or cost of the Synth.

@TheIndustrialRetrospective Год назад

I LOVE how greasy the Donner sounds!!

@BobbyDoesMusic Год назад

But that's just a theory. A PENUS THEORY. Super interesting stuff, I was also wrong most of the time. 🤣

@agustinS1756 Год назад

Its interesting that most people seem to shy away from sharing their results. In any case, I got very steady (poor) results. 2/5 correct guesses for each synth. I was hoping to being able to predict the Polybrute more than the others... and yet... here we are. Can I have one existential crisis for me too, please?

@DataBroth Год назад

playing along as I go, but I am giving multiple listens to each one, not just hearing them once I don't have personal experience with either donner or polybrute so telling those apart will be difficult, just assuming polybrute is whichever one sounds "fancier" X round 1: A)donner, there is some stepping in the filter B)vital, giveaway is no noisefloor C)polybrute round 2: A)Donner B)Vital C)polybrute 🤔same order? "a)" has more sustain on the bass, which I'm assuming is designed into the donner round 3: A)Vital B)donner C)polybrute my assumption for these is that the donner will be the better "bass" synth, consider that PB is 6 voices and we're comparing one voice of each synth round 4: A)polybrute B)donner C)vital round 5: A)Vital B)polybrute C)donner the sampled osc in vital almost fooled me until I heard the others(assuming I'm even correct) for all of these I'm assuming I got vital right, and I'm leaning towards "it sounds like a 303" for my donner pick, then poly is whichever one is left after seeing results it looks like I only got one round wrong, vital was correct every time though, noisefloor was a dead giveaway I think my logic in the first round was off by listening for that "stepping" in the filter totally 100% understand most people not getting these, especially since we're comparing single voices with no special features I'm always of the impression that people who listen to music and proclaim to know which synths were used from the sound (and not from historical relevance) are completely full of it, sure we might know the history of a record and what synths they used, it's interesting but in a mix, with simple fx, post processing etc, it really "doesn't matter" that said, keep in mind, the polybrute voice is 1/6th of the total voices, and it has many other features, bringing the cost of one voice WAY closer to the donner I also wouldn't suggest using a polybrute as a 303

@DataBroth Год назад

also a few points, just because most people can't tell the difference, doesn't mean there isn't one most people who say they can tell a difference probably can't, seriously this is SUPER common just because the average listener can't describe the difference, doesn't mean it wont affect your mix what I mean by this last point is that certain artifacts CAN potentially lead to mixing problems, not that any synth is "bad" per say just because you can't tell the difference doesn't mean the people who can are just lucky guessers all this said, it's about what you make with it, people who sit around all day comparing filters and synth warmth and never making music as correct as they may be, generally are just wasting time, idk I think the point here shouldn't be "synths all sound the same anyways" but should be: don't trust people's opinions online unless they actually know what they are talking about I see comments are posts about every music product claiming each one "sounds bad" or sounds thin, or sounds cheap or whatever, and it's usually just someone who listened to one demo and decided they didn't like the thing most important is to have fun with whatever you make, and avoid spending more than you need to