CHEAP vs EXPENSIVE katana, Which one is better?

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@fettmaneiii4439 Год назад

As someone who has worked with 2x4's for over 10 years of my life I can tell you just by the color difference of that second 2x4 that you cut with the thousand dollar katana with, that 2x4 is much harder than the lighter fresh wood colored one. It was a difference in wood, not blade there. That grey-ish discoloration on the second 2x4 is sun hardened/seasoned wood. Trust me guys- if you really want to do a fair test, you have to use 2 of the same 2x4's from the same lot.

@Sunburst_No Год назад

The only difference in the results would be the board not splitting. The katanas will warp and bend and chip the same as the previous tests, guaranteed.

@holderheck Год назад

@@Sunburst_Nona I feel a difference with a skill saw between lumbers he's got a very valid point.

@badadvice787 Год назад

Gray discoloration in usually caused by moisture from what I understand or at the very least moisture makes the process of the discoloration quicker. Your opinion is definitely relevant about would structurally changing. I know a little bit about storing wood in a humid all seasons climate. Having to plain wood again to refinish it is usually a lot worse than just storing it properly, but it depends on the weather conditions and if you can easily separate things to let them dry if needed. I used to help store large wood timbers.

@Ghostselkie Год назад

Yes. Everyone who worked with wood will learn that even two pieces of wood from the same tree can behave very differently. And then there is decay, moisture and many other factors that change the properties of wood. Fresh “green” wood is usually easier to cut and more flexible, older dried out “seasoned” wood is much harder and tend to break before bend. If you cook wood for some time, you can even squish it almost like a sponge. And also the alignment of the wood grain, how the fibers of the wood are arranged, is a big factor. And with used wood you don't know if there are cracks or weak spots from previously impacts and exposure to sun/moisture/bugs/mold/mushrooms...

@TeaBurn Год назад

@@badadvice787 At my workplace we have a single fence panel indoors kept for showroom photographing, and a picnic park bench kept outdoors both made of 2x4s starting off with the usual beige wood color. The fence was kept by the large windows, blocking the sun, while the bench was untreated and got hit with all weather conditions, sun, rain, and snow. The only thing that changed of course, was the bench that changed to a steel-like grey color, and wood slightly warped after shrinking in certain areas. The fence kept indoors still looked the same as the day it was installed, despite the years of sun exposure by the large windows. Bottom line, I believe you are absolutely right.

@BigPanda096 Год назад

Can we just appreciate how great the item respawn animations were in this video? So seamless. I for one, am in awe and appreciate their efforts. That was amazing to watch.

@Devlinator61116 Год назад

I had to watch Tyranth slashing the water bottles several times because the transition was so smooth.

@jameshamaker9321 Год назад

Yes. The animation quality, is super smooth. I'm thinking Oz, has started using a mass effect teleport chamber or has a Psyduck on the property somewhere.

@yaro_sem Год назад

That's just one of the default transitions in DaVinci Resolve. It takes as much effort as a regular crossfade. 10 years ago, it would have been impressive and would require a lot of work for every transition.

@VidelxSpopovich Год назад

I’m so glad Shad gave up drawing porn and started doing something productive.

@LKDesign Год назад

These edits looked nice. What keywords would I need to look up to find a tutorial about such tricks?

@moriarty1620 Год назад

Man these three guys on screen really make my day man... Really dont stop with this amazing content you all have been giving us

@ericbowers5968 Год назад

To be fair, Shad has consistently expressed his respect and fondness for katanas. The only weapon he's put an almost wholly negative light on is the nunchaku... Ive never seen any of his content where he's not strived to be completely objective in his reviews.

@cocodojo Год назад

The only thing Shad is more fond of than a katana... is a big, girthy stick! Except maybe for a machicolated big, girthy stick. But that's way too much power to wield by mortals!

@anubisean Год назад

@@cocodojo A Bokken would be too powerful for Shad

@maxmaidiac2237 Год назад

🤡😵‍💫🤡 HA HA HA HA BAZINGA!

@leodouskyron5671 Год назад

Reviews are almost never objective.

@User_2 Год назад

@@leodouskyron5671 truly objective reviews are worthless

@BrianM1777 Год назад

As a recommendation I would like to see the wood cutting "station" be fully braced so that cutting/chopping performance is not impacted by different placement of wood and stand

@ourkeving Год назад

Pretty much a safety fail. I winced every time.

@azurE2g Год назад

Their not testing cutting performance, it’s for feel and durability.

@BrianM1777 Год назад

@@azurE2g It still impacts the test result.

@Zara-tt7rh 6 месяцев назад

The two pieces of wood are different, one looks like kiln dried the other looks like green treated which is heavier and denser. Any one who’s built anything knows the difference. Maybe I’m wrong who knows.

@captainscarlett1 Год назад

As a practical student of Japanese martial arts I really like modern stainless steel blades, aluminium and plastic sayas. My wooden sayas I reinforce with shrink-tube because they are a bit delicate. Epoxy to bed the tang into the tsuka gives a nice tight fit. Cling wrap stops it all sticking together. Ancient arts, modern materials.

@kevinmorrice Год назад

hopefully you dont like stainless steel for cutting, because then i know your full of shit

@ericbowers5968 Год назад

True.The traditionally made katanas are not necessarily better. They're made in this way to honor and preserve the past as well as avoid weapon classification in Japan. They're more considered works of art.

@warwizard1309 Год назад

It's also likely that the "ancient arts" are not that ancient. There's enough evidence to suggest that what's taught as martial arts today is the product of modern times, and at most a couple centuries old. Modern warfare made the original martial arts obsolete. Martial arts took a new role in society, more "art" less "martial". There's a reason why most of them are pretty much useless in actual combat, they evolved into performative arts, focused on the spectacle, the cultural value, and less on the efficacy as fighting techniques.

@drakecassell1840 Год назад

@@warwizard1309of course it's more art and less martial nowadays when there are no wars fought with melee weapons anymore ever since guns became the main item used in battle. But when the Japanese would lose their weapons on the battlefield or have them break they would use judo but it was different than what we see nowadays because they were breaking bones back then fighting for their lives and if I'm not mistaken Jiu-Jitsu is from Japan originally and then it later became Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

@warwizard1309 Год назад

@@drakecassell1840 From a Shogo video, which I think we can consider a somewhat reliable source on the matter, when the samurai would lose their main weapon and couldn't retreat, they had their last resort weapon: the katana. Or even something more effective if available nearby: a rock. If you really think martial arts as they are taught today are useful in actual combat, you have been watching too many action movies. Futhermore, melee is still used in warfare and taught to soldiers. There are close quarter situations where a knife, blunt force, or wrestling can be more effective.

@stevenqu3 Год назад

I think when you're looking at price differences, you really need to consider why one of the swords is more expensive in the first place. The $1000 katana is more expensive because it's made with more labor intensive traditional methods, of which knowledge and experience is also pretty rare. Price is sometimes a measure of "prestige" rather than quality.

@jefferypointer7383 9 месяцев назад

not really showing quality when they use cheap parts for the handle

@sprinkle61 7 месяцев назад

The price is for a proper style tip and folding of the metal. Neither of which is of any use when breaking a 2x4 like an axe. There is no reason to ever use a sword in this way, so you are paying for a cooler looking sword, and its up to you not to break it for no reason. A wooden sword would be better for LARPing, and a handgun would be better for fighting, unless you are fighting zombies...

@Revon-Feuer Год назад

According to people like*Let's ask shogo" from Japan, a well crafted katana will usually be at minimum 5000$. There's different sizes of katana as well.

@adnanhossain7200 Год назад

i was thinking the same thing.

@Revon-Feuer Год назад

@@adnanhossain7200 Though with shad living in Europe, I would imagine it's difficult to go to Japan and buy a proper katana.

@azahel542 Год назад

@@Revon-Feuer True, shipping to Austria from japan must be very expensive.

@Revon-Feuer Год назад

@@azahel542 That, but also it would be quite difficult to do so in the first place. For one the sword is rightfully considered a weapon, second the shops forging and selling them are unlikely to offer such a service.

@leonrussell9607 Год назад

@@azahel542*Australia

@dusso4231 Год назад

I’ve dealt with 2x4s for a while. The one you used for the $1000 sword was definitely harder. Also if you look at where the 300 cut through the wood the plank was already about as structurally sound as a homemade submarine.

@dusso4231 Год назад

I don’t personally like katanas. Just pointing it out.

@soulspeed8498 Год назад

🤣

@jon4715 Год назад

Well said, I thought the exact same thing.

@TurkishRepublicanX 9 месяцев назад

What's the point of that segment anyway? To prove which sword is a better axe?

@gigacream5830 8 месяцев назад

@@TurkishRepublicanX basically to see which holds its edge better. Obviously hitting wood would dull the crap out of a sword, but some can stay sharp for a lot longer under these “stress tests”

@hernerweisenberg7052 Год назад

I got this real cheap chinese made "katana" that costs 160€, is made from folded stainless (idk why xD). Being the wrong steel, its not really hardened properly, but they tried a differential hardening on it anyway, the very edge is hard enough to hold an edge a little bit. It has a full beefy tang tho, and thats the most important thing. I've absolutely abused the crap out of it, mainly by removing small trees that had to go from my mothers garden. So far i was able to bend it back into shape every time, and once i managed to cut through a ~12cm small tree in one swing ;D

@jacara1981 Год назад

They fold the steal for purely looks. Its not needed but looks cool and more authentic.

@Oruta563 Год назад

You cut through a 12cm thick tree with a single swing ?!

@hernerweisenberg7052 Год назад

@@Oruta563 I think so, didn't measure it. Maybe it was only 10 or so. This cheap sword is a Dotanuki style tho, little on the short side but ~1250g heavy iirc. Then max power diagonal overhead swing with 100% edge alignment by luck, since i suck at this and i bend the sword on any other try xD

@hernerweisenberg7052 Год назад

@@Oruta563 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IqNeOlas57k.html somthing like this but luck instead of skill^^

@mrcaboosevg6089 Год назад

Stainless is a terrible choice for a sword, it's too brittle

@EgaoKage Год назад

Excluding extremes, it really doesn't matter too much what shape a blade is. But the difference between homogeneous spring steel and deferentially tempered folded steel matters a great deal. Homogeneous spring steel blades are very forgiving, without giving up any performance.

@scorpionlord9175 Год назад

and thats the point of many of shads videos. the katana has advantages over longswords and longswords have advantages over the katana, which is why they are EQUAL. one of the things the longsword gas over the katana is the spring steel. thats just fact. he isnt saying the longswords are thus better, he has always said they are equal.

@drakecassell1840 Год назад

Well I'd say katanas being rigid helps them cut better than spring steel swords but not always

@scorpionlord9175 Год назад

@@drakecassell1840 not really. edge alignment and sharpness are key factors. they have shown that their spring steel swords cut just as well as katanas.

@drakecassell1840 Год назад

@@scorpionlord9175 there has been a good amount of times where they don't want to say the katana cut better like against the trees in the last video, like I said I feel like rigid blades cut better but not always they have even said a blade being rigid helps it in the cut and with edge alignment on the katana but you are right spring steel is a beast of a steel and it can cut just as good

@EgaoKage Год назад

@@scorpionlord9175 My point was, you can make any style of sword from any material, by any method. The style or title of a sword is irrelevant. The material and method however, are relevant.

@olivier.st-amand Год назад

Keep up the good works guys! Thanks!

@Daedricfrog1 Год назад

love it thanks for being so honest

@Gubbinsmcbumbersnoot Год назад

Wow! I haven’t watched this channel in probably 4 or 5 years and I can’t believe how much it’s changed for the better! Shad you’ve really outdone yourself, excellent video and a superb channel.

@TheOGWiggle Год назад

Ok the water bottle transition was coooooool. And the review was really well done. Dialogue was solid, great back and forth with useful info, nice flow. Yall did great with this video!

@whitehorsemilitia Год назад

I always chose quality over expensive. A Katana is a work of Art, if you're looking for something to display, then go for one that is more expensive but if you're looking for practical use? It's better to go middle of the road. My Katana is around $300, T10 Steel and after 3 years, it still in good condition.

@Capsuleer7 Год назад

I use T10 for a lot of my blades as well since I'm on a budget. I find it to just be good steel for the price and purpose.

@whitehorsemilitia Год назад

@@Capsuleer7 T10 is used is almost every tool you buy, it's also known as Tool Steel because of its industrial use, able to keep its edge and slower rusting, like any steel, requires maintaining but T10 being most common steel on the market in other areas, it's a good middle ground.

@skyereave9454 6 месяцев назад

Where did you purchase and how often do you use it for cutting? Whats the maintenance like.

@whitehorsemilitia 6 месяцев назад

@@skyereave9454 I purchased from a website called truekatana (not the most trusting site for legitimate swords but always some) I don't do much cutting since I have it as a family heirloom as opposed to any practical use, maintenance is basic oiling like 2 times a month.

@barnowl2655 Год назад

Always love a good katana review.

@SirStouk Год назад

Thanks again for the excellent work, and the entertainment too 😁

@misterman710 Год назад

You guys are great and I appreciate you

@drakecassell1840 Год назад

Great video once again guys keep up the good work

@elephantspaintingelephants Год назад

Love the channel

@MrPlainsflyer Год назад

Great vid boys!

@jim7217 Год назад

Great job guys, as always! Thanks for a nice review and understandings of sword construction.

@jinxsesame9660 Год назад

loved this review😍😍

@elionzo Год назад

Another AWESOME video ❤ ⚔️

@Maehedrose Год назад

Good video, guys, and good discussion about the realities of modern metal vs 'traditional' metals.

@patrickmoore4209 Год назад

You guys make cutting with a sword look so easy! And with one arm!! I'm proud of you.

@aidenhawes5367 Год назад

Bro your intro title card has been the exact same since I first found your content😂 I love it, keep it forever

@sonnypally6 Год назад

I got the "Dragon King - Spring Sakura Katana" for $348 USD from Kult of Athena. I freaking love it! I was debating between it and a nice $1000 differentially hardened Hanwei but ultimately decided to go for the Spring Sakura for one reason that you demonstrate in this video. It is homogenous steel and not differentially hardened. As a katana fanboy, who has studied Iaido/Kendo, I have no problem admitting that differential hardening is inferior to spring steel. Ultimately, I did not want a sword that would take a set, I wanted a sword that would return to true, and for a sub $400 Katana with nice fittings and real ray skin, I could not be happier! There are maybe one or two things that I could nitpick, but it just goes to show you that there really are rather nice quality katanas on the market for under $1000 that are superior products and well worth it!

@Koushakur Год назад

13:56 Looks like you're cutting quite different pieces of wood, that along could explain the difference in feel I think. Like a more comically extreme example would be it feels different to chop into balsawood vs oak, that type of difference. Even if they're the same wood the planks were in very different condition by the look of them

@reddog9484 11 месяцев назад

I noticed that also.

@James35142 Год назад

Good morning, good to see you upload.

@deadschooled 9 месяцев назад

You freaking rock, Shad!

@myvoiceyourstory9338 Год назад

Top quality show lads

@bmonteleone48 Год назад

That flawless transition is 🤌

@RainMakeR_Workshop Год назад

Tod's Workshop just released an affordable Falchion in his Tod Cutler line. A 14th Century Clip Point Falchion, amongst others.

@sharkchaos5160 Год назад

Great video.

@procrastinationincarnate6416 Год назад

Dang Tyranth, that fur is looking pretty good on you!

@RauMins Год назад

Seeing Shad first debunk bow myths and now kanana myths and being so thorough with it is very nice to see, I love that you guys are going all the way to debunk these things! Keep at it ♥

@Frank_West Год назад

Gawd, I love this.

@Starless85 Год назад

Thanks!

@benena4619 Год назад

shad really liking katanas in recent vids

@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Год назад

Great video as always guys ,maybe try bundles of twigs bound together rather than a solid chunk of timber to give a different effect than a tatami mat. Maybe take the two blades apart from the handles and inspect the tangs on camera it may elaborate on the vibration issue?

@Trad. Год назад

Loving the water bottles appearing back effect.

@11OBlitzO11 Год назад

Lol the All-Stars shoes with the period costume!

@xavierfroidevaux955 Год назад

Nice!

@Jack-lo5me Год назад

Perhaps the reason the cheap Katana cut the wood is because the cheap-cheap one is heavier and ads more momentum. And since the cheap one is made of the same metal all the way through, it doesn’t have any “walls” that stop/hold the blade still, forcing the force back into the handle. And if you buy something cheap, it’s easy to fix because you don’t feel like you’ve wasted your money when you put electrical tape on the handle to make a new grip. That’s why I love cheap stuff; functional and easily fixable.

@Sunburst_No Год назад

Fair, but the blade isn't likely much heavier than the expensive blade. Mostly the weight distribution is slightly off.

@Nw-zh1uq Год назад

They said it in the video. The cheap one was a bit more top heavy which is the weight distribution. It also had a little bit thicker handle both of which help in hard target cutting and spliting. The weight is about the same.

@warwizard1309 Год назад

Check the video again, the plank was hit right at a weak spot, they could have used anything to hit that spot and the plank would have been broken.

@Amber_the_Floof Год назад

I’ve found a new channel to binge

@dschnaible Год назад

Nice edit on the reappearing bottle.

@MythicJedi Год назад

Another day, another Shadiversity katana video

@felx233 Год назад

Good video, I wonder which one resists more against the collision with another sword

@TrueStrike Год назад

Great to see the new sets in use although I can imagine a new leg coming in to stop the thing propping up the wood from falling over constantly 😂

@thedmdidit9842 Год назад

I know you guys know this, the wood you were chopping was not equal. When doing a durability test its important to use the same material. If you slam one sword against Balsa and another against Walnut, the sword hitting the Walnut would go through much more punishment. The wetness/dryness of the wood is important as well in this regard. The 2x4 you hit with the 1k sword looked much wetter, was clearly not the same type of wood, and was in much better shape(less cracks, warps and knots). I do agree in general that the cheaper sword is the better go if you want to functionally use it(for cutting practice like you said). But that is more because if you are going to spend a lot on a sword, you would want it for the beauty of it more so than to abuse it. PS. ice block chop is a great way to test, at least where I live, ice is cheaper than wood. If you are able you could even freeze it yourself in coolers in the freezer.

@maybehuman4 Год назад

Exactly. I just made a comment of my own about this. These tests are too sloppy and uncontrolled. That split piece of wood clearly split along a fault/fracture in the wood, not because of the cut. I recommended a channel called Project Farm here on YT for ideas how they can make these tests more controlled.

@khalidgagnon8753 Год назад

It gave a general idea. Also, the damage would still have occurred with wood. Pine isn't SO different from wood to not cause damage to a sword. It will keep it from potentially shattering. Finally.... It did agitate the area in the wood with structural damage, but all the same, the different steel structure already made the former sword feel lighter and while more nimble in the cut, weaker in a "chop" They even said it might have chopped deeper but it didn't feel like it transfered energy. The warp is also consistent with the forging technique on that katana. Bamboo pins are often used in a katana hilt to hold the blade in place because if the contact force is intense enough they will shatter, and enable the blade to move... hopefully preserving the blade. You don't need that for a European sword. Likewise the traditional steel blade, even with a warp, cut better than the 300 due to blade retention, a benefit of that forging technique.

@maybehuman4 Год назад

@@khalidgagnon8753 You're full of sh!t. It's critical to keep as many things consistent as possible when making a comparison. To make an analogy, they were comparing the speeds of two cars while one car was on a race track, and the other on a dirt road. The comparison is pointless.

@BIackstrength Год назад

Also, they said in the beginning that the cheaper one is heavier and more top heavy specifically... both of which will improve the cutting power.

@andychrist2922 Год назад

Not only is highly illegal in The Shadlands but also prohibitively expensive to buy "blocks of ice" for this METHod 😂

@Lou45833 Год назад

Great video,,,What about a video on modern weapons like hand guns

@mythiccass3837 Год назад

I suspect that for practical use, the cheaper one would have been preferred during the Sengoku Jidai if it weren't for material & technological constraints of the time.

@SetuwoKecik Год назад

During Edo Period however, they'll picked the most expensive ones obviously, since more expensive katana = better status symbol.

@googleandsusansucks Год назад

They mostly used spears during the Sengoku Jidai but ok. Didn't they also use the tachi? Did the whole katana craze start with the Edo period when the upper classes could just kill any peasant for any reason? Yea, real hard cutting down unarmored peasants. Japanese culture might look cool, but their medieval times were incredibly brutal and unfair. The west at least had the concept of freedom for the individual.

@SetuwoKecik Год назад

@@googleandsusansucks Did you just assume samurais didnt use those swords as sidearms alongside their spears and bows?

@SentinalSlice Год назад

The items reappearing is trippy. Because I looked away/was looking at the sword when it happened and got confused as to how there was more to cut.

@uhohmemebiggestboy212 Год назад

Really love your shorts, you give me interest then give me a full video to watch about it as well

@anthonylamonica8301 Год назад

I am curious, have you guys considered maybe test-cutting on a full beef shank? It'd be a more accurate test because it's _actually_ flesh and bone, which is what blades are ultimately meant to cut, and as a bonus you get a hearty dinner later.

@DH-xw6jp Год назад

They have done a cut test using pork. I think it was during their fire sword video.

@anthonylamonica8301 Год назад

@@DH-xw6jp But it isn't a _beef_ shank, now is it? I prefer steak to bacon, and I'd bet they do too.

@DH-xw6jp Год назад

@@anthonylamonica8301 pork is a closer analog to human than beef is, so if you are testing weapons (or surgical tools) pork is what you should use. And a sunday pork roast with all the trimmings is divine.

@thenight527 Год назад

Shadiversity, it would be awesome to see a video on chainswords, chainaxes and other 40k weopons and your opinions on them 😊🙏

@alex-uw4mm Год назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_aGGUH5CP1Y.html there you go

@AlyssMa7rin Год назад

He's done one on the Chainsword, AGES ago. Though, it would be nice to see the others' opinions on it.

@Leo.23232 Год назад

they are really dumb

@medievilassassin Год назад

Great video guys , even with the $300. Sword you could modify it and wrap the tsuka and such for not much more money. One of the best budget swords I have ever used is the Hanwei Raptor and the practical XL

@kristopherstribling5951 Год назад

This is great, thank you. Could you do the same with longswords?

@andychrist2922 Год назад

Glad to see Sir Converse of the red boots is here resplendent in said boots and black tracky daks 😂

@pentadeuce1086 Год назад

You guys need to get like a railroad tie, or something for the wood durability tests. :D

@eamonnholland5343 Год назад

There was a lot of variance in the wood used for the tests. It's quite apparent from the appearance of the wood and how it interacted to the impacts. Anyone that's worked with wood before will see the difference immediately. The board used for the $1000 katana test was much harder and stiffer, which might explain the damage. As there's so much variance in wood, it can be a difficult medium to use for scientific testing. Each sword should have been used on the same boards/woods, to eliminate the variables.

@kam1k0t0 Год назад

Also the plank used in 1000$ katana test was wet. That definitely made it harder

@kingofspades76 Год назад

@@kam1k0t0 Nate also clearly struck wet planks with the 300 dollar Katana right at the beginning of that test, I believe it comes out to about the same, those were all just regular old 2x4s

@kam1k0t0 Год назад

@@kingofspades76 oh yeah, you are right. A didn't notice that

@eamonnholland5343 Год назад

@@kingofspades76 "Regular old 2x4s" have a lot of variance. The board at 11:28 was clearly left outside and rotted some, and/or softer, enabling the sword to cut deeper into it and absorbing more of the impact, resulting in less damage to the sword. The board at 12:04 clearly had a fracture/weakened part already in it, which is why it broke so easily in one swing. The board at 12:50 was clearly much sturdier and harder, and gave less when struck, which explains differences in sword damage.

@SwordsMaster7. Год назад

Hmm, I wonder exactly where the quality for price cut out limit is for most swords and armor... I'll have to look further into this sometime. Thanks for providing my brain with another random statistics task to do! And thanks for the video, can't wait to finish it!

@jonathanfalls1937 Год назад

Love the katana videos but I would love to see a theoretical "best possible katana" with the best possible steel, modern construction methods, etc. Maybe even changing the design of certain elements like making the suba wider so that it could have more utility. Some of these ideas have already been touched on by your previous videos nevertheless I still think this would be an interesting concept.

@gnawnickvods939 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, it's a machete

@IPostSwords Год назад

"traditionally made katana are better than modern monosteel katanas" - a perspective I almost never hear from someone who's actually inspected antique nihonto and seen the wide variety of flaws, inclusions and weaknesses which are present across historical nihonto. There are inherent weaknesses to folding/forge welding - ESPECIALLY if actually done traditionally in a charcoal furnace.

@MagiRemmie Год назад

A lot of those comments are just from people that romanticize the Katana and aren't aware of anything else.

@stevenbobbybills Год назад

@@MagiRemmieyes. Most katana fans have never held one.

@fransthefox9682 Год назад

While post Edo swords were pretty crap compared to modern steel, a good Koto would be a decent competition. Well, it would still lose in durability, but still a decent competition.

@Ianmar1 Год назад

Does anyone believe that traditional forging methods produced better steel than modern metallurgy?

@loke6664 Год назад

That is true, but it also depends on the skill of the smith and the time spent on it. It is way harder to make a good traditional katana then a modern monosteel is probably the correct thing to say. I mean, if you compare something by a legendary bladesmith like Nagamitsu against some random modern guy things might be different since a master who spent his entire life making blades and could take years probably could overcome worse steel. In general, you are certainly right but let's not forget that skill is also important in making a great sword. Very few historical katanas were actually made by masters though so the blade of that 300 bucks katana were probably better then the average historical one (not so sure about the other parts, they look a bit cheap). Getting the right charcoal percentage in a traditional katana must have been a nightmare, particularly when you didn't understood the chemistry behind it.

@bungeetoons Год назад

The blade shock difference could be that when the wood split it couldnt apply the same normal force than when it held up to $1000 one.

@spideyninja1163 Год назад

I love how this feels just like a tv cooking product review, but for swords.

@SPI3Cy 11 месяцев назад

very cool 👍

@originalamerican9396 Год назад

I have a few from Swords of Northshire. They are semi custom Katanas ranging from budget to expensive. From what I have seen the lower cost katanas are the better sword. The expensive ones will have a better fit and finish but the real difference is the blade. Example you can get the sand iron swords that cost thousands of dollars or you can get a much more durable spring steel blade for a few hundred.

@jacara1981 Год назад

Its because the cheaper swords are made with Mass produced steel, which is really high quality to start with. Modern steel is just plain outright better than traditional steel, so methods used traditionally to get better blades can actually have the opposite effect on the modern steel.

@loboptlu Год назад

Nice , now when will they make part 2 with the expensive one?

@maxbarnes8449 Год назад

I’d love to see a video where you determine the best quality budget longsword/arming sword. I would really like to to purchase a decent quality European sword but I don’t have the budget to get something crazy expensive. Your video on best sword for modern day self defense would be a great template!

@JNM11787 Месяц назад

Swords are awesome! Im thinking of getting a propper blade, either eastern or western. Thank u guys for doing this. Every blade has its strengths and weaknesses. Its like guns and the ammo they use. Right tool for the right job! "What do u want to do with ur blade?" is the most important question to ask urself before buying.

@stephentomsky9576 Год назад

Tyranth looks good with the fur.

@GlawiousAldredMarci Год назад

Now they are cutting as you are supposed to with a katana, so nice to see that. Did they practice? :3

@Yoroiful Год назад

I really appreciate the Mythbusters vibe in this one.

@minasmorgoul Год назад

Guys regarding to your wood test. Any chance the wood quality can affect the test? Like the first one seemed kinda weathered and the second one looked brand new and presumably more dried out? and on the next one your sprayed water on it. Any chance the tests would be more trastworthy while on a homogenous piece of wood(as much as humanly possible) like a tree stomp? Great video btw!

@Ratsos12 11 месяцев назад

The blue one because the racing stripes make it go faster of course.

@marcogenovesi8570 Год назад

The tears of the weeaboos are delicious

@LannyRoe Год назад

I love the idea of shad and the gang buying like 1,000 pool noodles from a local Walmart and everyone just stares at them

@FrankJaeger93 Год назад

To carry on from this video it would be interesting to see a chinese made vs japanese made katana video

@Cribbo Год назад

So basically, I'm buying for 300 if I ever somehow need a Katana

@RikuHino Год назад

I have a few $50 katana after a resharpening they are actually pretty decent and fun to have a muck around with

@NathanWagenet Год назад

You have to notice that the 2x4s which you were cutting with the $300 katana actually had weak points near where you hit (on the underside). It's pretty obvious from the camera's view, and that's what caused the 2x4 to straight up split in half.

@user-oq1hf5sc3o Год назад

Can you do a video on holding both Swords and shields on one's back?

@funkytownjedi 10 месяцев назад

Magical 😮

@Ekseth Год назад

When I see the super steels used in the knife industry today I wonder what kind of swords we could achieve with the same level of research of development.

@crusadernikolai1996 Год назад

I’m gonna need space for my future sword collection

@finnkedinn1573 Год назад

SUPER IMPORTANT QUESTION!!!!! Is a pizza slicer (the disk blade one) a sword??? It has a hilt, most have a guard, it’s primary use is cutting, and you can’t say it is too short since, it being a circular loosely fastened blade it can rotate technically making the blade infinitely long. I need Shad’s input on this…

@Justachildinasink Год назад

I dont think its a sword bc you cant thrust with it

@crose1466 Год назад

@@JustachildinasinkI believe some swords aren’t meant to be thrusted

@Justachildinasink Год назад

@@crose1466 you're right

@maxmarat5640 Год назад

Lads quick question are you goin to winterfest at hawkesbury next week

@joeyfish5 Год назад

I really wanna see yall review the ronin katana two handed "saber" aka twohanded euro sword

@Gojeto346 Год назад

You guys should see about doing a test video on a sword from Swords of Northshire, they advertise hand forged custom katanas for under $500, mine feels better than any other katana I’ve ever held but i have about .5% of your experience so it would be cool to see if they live up to their advertising!!

@171QA Год назад

Neat.

@palemoogle3049 Год назад

The respawning waterbottles remind me of playing a game with serious lag

@JavierSanchez-el4pl Год назад

Shad! Gang! Do a video review and possibly a review on the actual weapons made/forged by Random Hands! Also… What about dragons?!?!

@christophbarra1841 Год назад

Now we only need a couple of pig carcasses and were right into Forged in Fire "it will keal!" territory! Love this format. Really want to see more comparisions of cheap and expensive swords and axes and most of all SPEARS!

@showato Год назад

Now its time to move up to a Shinsakuto!

@marcusc9931 Год назад

"And now, the kill test."

@Souchirouu Год назад

We've kinda gotten to the point that we understand steel so well that we can make it in any way we want. We can basically select how rigged or how flexible a piece of steel is and we just make it to whatever specification that we need it for. So I guess the only thing left to do is dive deeper into the details of metallurgy and decide on what is the best balance for a sword and it's many variables. Personally, I'd take that $300 spring steel katana over the best sword ever crafted by the best sword smith that has ever lived if I actually had to take it to the battlefield. I do think that traditionally crafted swords can be extremely beautiful and if I had to actually choose one to buy I'd take the beautiful one. It's just an art piece. Not like you can really do anything if someone steps into your life with a gun. Life isn't an anime. So at best it's a bluff and for that a pretty one would actually be more effective than a blade that is better at killing people. Your still going have to defend the level of force/damage you caused. So hurting but not killing someone is generally better in our current society. So in an add way you kinda want the pretty one that isn't the best weapon.

@sanjurohanamizuki6181 Год назад

a human being is a very soft target .... so either of these 2 blades would be quite capable of doing far more damage than you think to flesh ... considering that 1000$ blade was pitted against much harder 2x4's , yet still cleanly cut a soft target , well your logic is flawed

@Cybetrexs 11 месяцев назад

If you know self-defense at all, you would know you *never* shoot to maim. You always enact self-defense with intent to kill. It’s taught in everything from police academies to self defense classes to CWP courses.

@TheYemcl Год назад

Love what you guys do. Why didn't you cut the same piece of wood, though? That could have played a huge part in what you were feeling, as well as the wood breaking.