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@nocbwsninja
@nocbwsninja 6 лет назад
Have a combination King Stone and homemade leather strop, watching your videos really helped me hone my sharpening skills. Thanks for all the information.
@nexisnorthwest6069
@nexisnorthwest6069 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for doing your videos. I just got this knife last week as a birthday gift and it has been fun to use around the restaurant. Haven't gotten a chance to sharpen it yet but now i cant wait! Cheers
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
have fun with it
@chrisclews4162
@chrisclews4162 6 лет назад
Another great Vid, i have improved my sharpening technique so much. Thanks, keep up the great work.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
right on, Chris. keep up the great work.
@MozzyAlmighty
@MozzyAlmighty 6 лет назад
Another great video, love the way you present! Keep it up!!!
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
thanks Moses, just doing my best.
@zellufdoen
@zellufdoen 6 лет назад
Only saw one of your vids, but you're like the bob Ross for knive sharpening
@redangrybird7564
@redangrybird7564 4 года назад
Little happy knives...
@MARTIN201199
@MARTIN201199 3 года назад
I’ve got a happy wetstone
@shaneintegra
@shaneintegra 5 лет назад
Count von count instantly popped into my head and started counting as you dulled the knives. Thanks Sesame Street 👍
@kev23dk
@kev23dk 6 лет назад
I love long vids while im doing paperwork! So awesome
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
haha. that's a first i've heard of someone playing my videos during homework. thanks !
@pogohd9219
@pogohd9219 6 лет назад
Awesome video 👌🏻
@SergeUnplugged
@SergeUnplugged 5 лет назад
Thank you kindly sir!
@user-wk9ed4tg7o
@user-wk9ed4tg7o 6 лет назад
Hello! How do you think, what sharpening stick is better steel or ceramic?
@bobsmi91
@bobsmi91 6 лет назад
In listening to the cutting of the Shapton v leather strop, the knife stropped on Shapton glass sounded like a higher pitch. I'd say slightly cleaner. As several have stated below, I'd also like to see a pocket knife 3-4" sharpened.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
hahah. will pick up some pocket knives soon enough.
@mikelhodoho8926
@mikelhodoho8926 6 лет назад
Awesome video as always. 👍👍 but what do you think about the wusthof Ceramic Whetstone?
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
will be getting some soon
@Jmag1985
@Jmag1985 6 лет назад
Hey man! Great channel. It would really help me out if you would let me know how you applied the compound on your home made strop. there are tons of conflicting videos out there saying you need to apply heat, or you should use the rough side of the leather. Last week I finished making a home made paddle strop and my green compound doesn't seem too want to adhere to the smooth side of my leather. It just builds up and flakes off and if i apply heat it turns into a powder. I'm using the wax like green compound that's suggested in most videos, so I'd like to know how you got it to adhere to the smooth side of your leather in order too find out what I'm doing wrong.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
will do a video for this topic SOON.
@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929
@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 6 лет назад
I have a king s-1 6k stone, and I bought some rust erasers based off your videos talking about them. I found that on the king s-1 if you clean it with a rust eraser after each use it starts to develop a weird feel to it. It gets a kind of bumpy and almost rough feeling, that seems to go away after flattening the stone or if you use a nagura. Thought you would want to know about it and maybe do a little testing on it see if thats normal or maybe I just got one thats a bit off.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
thanks for the update.
@innemannen
@innemannen 6 лет назад
I've really wanted to get into knife sharpening but always felt like it wouldn't be worth it if you don't buy an expensive stone, but this video made me invest in the 20 dollar stone. Gonna be a new potential fun hobby.
@joedcamp2454
@joedcamp2454 6 лет назад
innemannen if you do any cutting or chopping then it's worth it, once you get the hang of it that it's... Lol the first knife I sharped to me an hour and was barely able to do a push cut, but as you saw in the video once you know what your doing only takes 10 minutes. Best of luck and don't give up.
@innemannen
@innemannen 6 лет назад
Thanks, we have some pretty dull kitchen knives to begin with so unless I completely deform it I'm sure it can't get much worse haha
@tweixian
@tweixian 6 лет назад
Hello from Down Under Ryky, thank you for doing what you do. It spurred me to get myself a set of Shapton Glass stones from barber and shaving supplies of all places. No kitchen supply stores I've searched offer them in Australia. The shaving stores also only sell stones in grits suited for razors, not really kitchen knives. I've noticed that Shapton USA recently stopped doing business and read that the glass stones are no longer being produced/restocked. Do you have any knowledge if these are rumours or if there's any truth to them?
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
hey there. Shapton has lost their original distributor in the US because the distributor had really poor business practices. i don't think there is a new distributor yet, but there are companies that will continue to buy direct from Shapton Japan.
@darkwraithknyack126
@darkwraithknyack126 5 лет назад
Very nice thank you
@superdriver777
@superdriver777 5 лет назад
I totally agree with his assessment at the end -- the strop has a cleaner edge based on sound. I think it matters more what you finish with than what you start with when it comes to sharpening, which is why the super smooth strop put a finer edge than the Shapton glass. Still, if I had lots of money, I'd just have a 16,000# Shapton ;-)
@unclebill5170
@unclebill5170 5 лет назад
What do you think of The Shapton Kuromaku Stones ceramic stones 5000 and 8000 grit
@MaybuTron
@MaybuTron 6 лет назад
Time and time again, you prove that it is more down to technique than kit. Yes, Shapton are very nice stones, but they're not necessary to get an excellent edge on your knife. Practise is key! Keep up the excellent work!!
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
thanks, Tron! just keeping it real
@nichtverstehen2045
@nichtverstehen2045 4 дня назад
it's not stones that do the sharpening
@steveledbetter5613
@steveledbetter5613 4 года назад
The power of the strop. When I discovered stropping I was amazed at the difference. I continue to be amazed. I would not sharpen with out them. Just leather alone works. Add a small amount of Green Chrome compound and it’s even better.
@MARTIN201199
@MARTIN201199 3 года назад
Steve Ledbetter can i use a old leather belt as strop?
@JeffSmith-eq3kc
@JeffSmith-eq3kc 2 года назад
I've got a stone that my grandfather used during WWII. It's about 4" by 2" and it's rough! I can take it and make my kitchen knives push cut paper. Takes time but it's all about technique. As long as the abrasive will cut the steel, with the right technique you can sharpen a knife. That said, I have a couple dozen premium stones but it's more aesthetic than anything. Certain steels look better on certain stones.
@russyJ20
@russyJ20 4 года назад
Please do a review/demo of a Belgian Blue Whetstone. I've heard they are pretty good but not getting on with mine so using shapton glass for the moment. They're great! I would like to master the natural blue, Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
@JeffSmith-eq3kc
@JeffSmith-eq3kc 2 года назад
I've got a couple dozen stones, natural and synthetic. I really disliked my Belgian blue stone. It's like sharpening with different stones at the same time, so the edge aesthetics suffer. It's just not consistent. I gave it away actually.
@richiegonzales4991
@richiegonzales4991 5 лет назад
Dude is the Bob Ross of cutlery and I love it.
@Cornyne
@Cornyne 6 лет назад
what scale (A, B or C) on the Rockwell?
@yakusoku2022
@yakusoku2022 6 лет назад
I invested in the kickstarter, Edge of Belgrave Damascus set, which has a hardness of 58-60 according to their site. Just wondering what stones I should go with for daily maintenance?
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
get the best you can afford if you enjoy sharpening on great stones, and plan on hand sharpening for a while. my pick is the 800 and 3000 amzn.to/2uKHPVP here is my list of best picks so far kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit
@LoU3107
@LoU3107 6 лет назад
For me it was one of your best videos. Answered many questions for me but I still have one question. We're your knives as sharp as you can cut hairs on your forearm?
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
hahah. who knows. i have no hair on my arms to test that question
@LoU3107
@LoU3107 6 лет назад
Burrfection haha, shiieet :D
@Frenzgyn
@Frenzgyn 6 лет назад
Have you ever used or are you planning to test some Coticule and Belgian Blue Whetstones?
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
never have, and no one the US seems to carry them .
@rok4220
@rok4220 6 лет назад
What did you do the reduction in strokes before the strop?
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
cleans the edge better.
@francispaulmichaelmejia4103
@francispaulmichaelmejia4103 3 года назад
RyKy, You're the Bob Ross of knife sharpening lol That's a good thing! You should change your motto to, "Happy Knife, Happy Life!" Thanks for all your great videos, Godbless...
@romeobenvolio4145
@romeobenvolio4145 6 лет назад
Have you ever done the Shun Taiyo before, Ryky? If not, would really like to see that knife on your channel.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
getting some Shuns here soon, but not sure about the Taiyo.
@donzapanta4071
@donzapanta4071 6 лет назад
Recently picked up wetstone sharpening as a new interest and skill set and have purchased and been enjoying using the sharp pebble 400/1000 stone. I have sharpened every knife in my home haha and the 400 grit side is half way eaten away with a concave profile towards the center, no matter how much i attempt to use the entire surface of the stone but the 1000 grit still looks fairly new. With the 400 grit side already half way gone i'm wondering if when i'm going to have to purchase a new stone and I'm wondering if there are any other good budget options, it seems as though the prices of these stones are going up on amazon and I am wondering if your reviews are to blame haha just kidding. Also on another note I've also picked up some vegetable tanned cowhide and buffing compound for stropping. I haven't been getting much luck with the smooth side of the cowhide, it almost seems to be dulling my cutting edge more than making it sharper perhaps i'm doing something wrong? I've had more luck using leather from an old welding glove which has more of a suede like finish as a strop and have had amazing results with that. I still have some cowhide left over perhaps i'll try using the rough side instead of the smooth side.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
for a 400 grit stone, just pick up the cheapest you can find. i only use that grit once or twice a year. can't really comment on your stropping. are you applying pressure when you strop on leather? i apply NO pressure at all.
@donzapanta4071
@donzapanta4071 6 лет назад
Thank you for the feed back, I've come to enjoy learning and working on my wet stone techniques getting consistent angles, it is oddly relaxing and your videos are quite helpful. And have come to realize yes i have been applying pressure to the leather strop causing it to eat into my cutting edge this is why i was getting a dull edge with 1/8" thick cowhide and a sharper polished edge on a thin piece of cheap leather stapled to a wood plank, still learning.
@JTSX1
@JTSX1 6 лет назад
Have you used or considering reviewing the Wicked Edge WE-130 sharpening system? It's supposed to take out most of the human error in sharpening.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
will do so in a few months
@JTSX1
@JTSX1 6 лет назад
Cool! I'll look for it.
@ypsilondaone
@ypsilondaone 6 лет назад
Hello! I have a Wüsthof Knife and I bought myself 2 dual whetstones (400/1000/3000/8000) tried to sharpen them according to your videos. The Problem is that it's nowhere near as sharp as in the Video even die you did it only with one whetstone. What am I doing wrong? Any tips?
@ThefalleStrat
@ThefalleStrat 6 лет назад
Nora Die H0e you won't need the 300 grit stone as you need it only for knives that lost all of it's sharpness to recreate the angle. so just use start with the 1000grit stone. With the 300 you might havrcreated another angle
@evildrgo
@evildrgo 4 года назад
Hey... so I have a $20 chinatown whetstone. Probably 300-600 grit. Can I use that grit, and then followup with a 1000 grit and 5000 polish?
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 4 года назад
yes
@brandonadams3914
@brandonadams3914 6 лет назад
How well does the 400 side on the budget stone fare?
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
wears relatively quickly, but a good grit for small and easy repairs
@vdog570
@vdog570 6 лет назад
Could i go from a dmt 1200 grit stone to a shapton 6000? I have all four grits from dmt so i just want to add one more finer grit stone.
@touchMelilbro
@touchMelilbro 5 лет назад
Yes but don't expect a mirror polish
@SamuelTanMusic
@SamuelTanMusic 5 лет назад
How does the whetstone cutlery 400/1000 compare to the sharp pebble 400/1000 combo?
@beanieweenie9543
@beanieweenie9543 4 года назад
Samuel Tan they are the exact same stone
@Wvk5zc
@Wvk5zc 6 лет назад
Ignore those some people. I am all in for the asmr goodness from this sharpening process. PS: I kinda missed the old clean classic white background on your wall :(
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
hahah. may bring it back at some point.
@poyichung3087
@poyichung3087 6 лет назад
Sandpaper stone actually produce very clean edge I don't even bother use leather after sandpaper. And I using a lot of that for my yanagiba sharpening because it's 100%flat, And no need to waste wetstone by flatten .
@010falcon
@010falcon 6 лет назад
Thanks ryky for the amazing link with the rust erasers These actually ship to Switzerland You can imagine how it is if most items on amazon say : this item does not shipt to Switzerland 🇨🇭 😭😭😭😭😭 Thanks
@010falcon
@010falcon 6 лет назад
Btw your 3 camera system (again) is amazing
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
right on! they are great, and you'll love them. thanks for the input!
@MARTIN201199
@MARTIN201199 3 года назад
Hey I can tell a difference. I’m musician and I’m used to compare things by how they sound. Actually the more expensive sounded cleaner than the cheaper sharpening stone.
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 6 лет назад
old tiles work fine.
@Foton4164
@Foton4164 6 лет назад
Good news!
@AlzSmith
@AlzSmith 6 лет назад
what do you think on sharpening on sand paper?
@Specter1031
@Specter1031 6 лет назад
Rolez Alz he had a video this on his channel. Worked well but requires skill to avoid cutting the paper
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
i've done. go to my channel and look at the most recent... 5-6 videos.
@caidelander2561
@caidelander2561 6 лет назад
any advice on sharpening recurve edges
@osirisbladeworks6219
@osirisbladeworks6219 6 лет назад
Caide Lander that's a good question!
@osirisbladeworks6219
@osirisbladeworks6219 6 лет назад
Caide Lander but since it doesn't involve kitchen knives I don't think it's related
@maxguitarhero
@maxguitarhero 6 лет назад
Caide Lander use of the corners of stones helps in sharpening them. Using sweeping strokes to make even bevel to start is key. Then when finishing the edge make a scratch pattern perpendicular to the edge itself. Ensure you are removing material evenly and working the heel of the blade. The theory behind sharpening would be the same otherwise.
@caidelander2561
@caidelander2561 6 лет назад
thanks any other advice is super helpful
@user-vz1pv1no7g
@user-vz1pv1no7g 6 лет назад
Thank you for your video . But I really want to see cutting test on real food than paper.
@andrews9577
@andrews9577 6 лет назад
RYKY kicks ass!
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
hahah. just keeping it real.
@nanashivii9237
@nanashivii9237 6 лет назад
Good old leather strop makes all the difference, haha. Nice comparison, man.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
haha. they are fun to use, and simply throwing my knives on a strop every 3-4 days, has saved me TONS of time from hand sharpening.
@ahorowitz15
@ahorowitz15 6 лет назад
29. 29 strokes. How dare you!
@Specter1031
@Specter1031 6 лет назад
ahorowitz15 is he must trolling us at this point? He keeps it up, we go confiscate that brick.
@jean-yvesmead3972
@jean-yvesmead3972 6 лет назад
What do you want - twenty strokes and the fun's over?
@jeremys8360
@jeremys8360 6 лет назад
Jean-Yves Mead I see what you did there
@TheOMT
@TheOMT 6 лет назад
ahorowitz15 the outrage!! Bahaha :)
@ysammo214
@ysammo214 5 лет назад
@@jean-yvesmead3972 😂😂
@johnscarborough4746
@johnscarborough4746 6 лет назад
Yep, the strop edged out the high dollar stones
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
as long as the knife's edge is fairly fresh, i agree.
@qwertypuffin
@qwertypuffin 6 лет назад
'I'm going to use my.. rusty razor here' WHAT?! OHHHH... RUST ERASER
@Onedayilbeok
@Onedayilbeok 6 лет назад
what was that little thing called that you used to clean your stone?
@kacknaab
@kacknaab 6 лет назад
I'm sure it's his trusty rust eraser. I bought one myself, it's great!
@Onedayilbeok
@Onedayilbeok 6 лет назад
Thanks mate
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
this amzn.to/2tSrJui
@010falcon
@010falcon 6 лет назад
Oh Asis its also at the top He puts everything into the description
@ysammo214
@ysammo214 5 лет назад
@@Burrfection awesome
@maynardcast
@maynardcast 6 лет назад
Nevermind the haters. You're obviously passionate about what you're doing here. A link to the conclusion as a comment might help though. I personally enjoy watching the whole thing.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
thanks, friend. stay in touch.
@ashen11x22
@ashen11x22 6 лет назад
If your glass stone is slower than a chosera it is probably because the surface is not properly prepared, it looks like it glazes too much and seem way too slick for its grit. You should groom the surface with a diamond plate every use, not a lot just to cut the abrasive. That way the stone will load less and feel more abrasive giving more tactile feedback. Those rust eraser really are not my favorite thing to clean stones they seem to leave a dulled abrasive on the stone.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
appreciate the comment, but the glass stones have NEVER been faster than the Choseras, brand new, or after being used.
@dicksonlee8811
@dicksonlee8811 6 лет назад
Would be interesting to see your sharpening skills with a straight razor please & thank you :)
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
just picked some up and will be testing my skills, as you mentioned
@010falcon
@010falcon 6 лет назад
Dickson Lee you see He cares about his subs He isnt like others
@goodlyboony
@goodlyboony 6 лет назад
90F degrees? That's cute... I'm roasting over here at 130F :)
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
haha. leave
@goodlyboony
@goodlyboony 6 лет назад
Burrfection Uuuuuhhh... what's up with the hostility? Everything alright, dude?
@IssacSir
@IssacSir 6 лет назад
I SOOO much want to see the edges of both knifes under a microscope after the sharpening ... XD
@tedwutang
@tedwutang 3 года назад
So what justify your love for whetstone that cost 200-1000 each? Aside pure pleasure:)
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 3 года назад
That is all
@sdriza
@sdriza 4 месяца назад
30
@Tim-Ram
@Tim-Ram 6 лет назад
Next time just say; Im gonna run the knife a couple of times on the brick ;)
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
good suggestion.
@scottbearden
@scottbearden 6 лет назад
I wouldn't have known the fan was running if you didn't say anything.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
good to know!
@darwinbodero7872
@darwinbodero7872 6 лет назад
Whatchu mean experimental things lmao. That's so sus lol
@dusanboss7749
@dusanboss7749 5 лет назад
I think that I bought exactly same stone (10-20 $) for 80 cents. ;)
@Tallnerdyguy
@Tallnerdyguy 5 лет назад
Long story short, save your money, buy the knockoffs lol.
@kjkblade69
@kjkblade69 6 лет назад
If you are worried about snowflakes complaining about your counting tell them “I am going to destroy the edge on my brick count if you would like” :)
@BrandonColonel
@BrandonColonel 6 лет назад
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Strop the Shaptons before you say that the other stone and strop combo did better. I tried the Sharp Pebble once and had a terrible experience. The grits were off, it went completely concave after only sharpening 8 steak knives, and when I asked for a refund, I had to argue with the company for weeks before they finally gave it to me. And when I left my review, they harassed me for weeks over email trying to get me to take down my negative review. One guy even found me on Facebook and tried to harass me there too. So no offense to you, but I gag a little bit every time you talk favorably about this stone. The only good thing about the Sharp Pebble for me was that it was the needed push to get my Shapton GlassStone set.
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
everyone has a right to their opinion. sorry, to hear you had a bad experience with sharp pebble. i have found it to be a very good performing stone so far.
@BrandonColonel
@BrandonColonel 6 лет назад
Burrfection I mean, I'm not trying to make you change your opinion of the stone you have. But I do think you should consider the company and how it handles such problems when making recommendations. The one I got didn't make a terrible edge, but I was able to make a better edge freehanding on Lansky Pro stones for about the same money spent.
@spinLOL533
@spinLOL533 6 лет назад
Makes so many videos about knives but you don't cut a damn thing but a little magazine
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
yup
@jeivory
@jeivory 6 лет назад
you also cut bricks haha
@TrungLeNOLA
@TrungLeNOLA 6 лет назад
Burrfection he wants to see you cut lame tomatoes test haha!
@spinLOL533
@spinLOL533 6 лет назад
TrungLeNOLA Yea why the hell would you make videos about knives and sharpen them without even using them. It's not even a review it's more like being Happy getting free shit
@haylspa
@haylspa 6 лет назад
29 times a new off record lmbo, so have you ever heard the saying your words are living?? stop saying you can't count you are just reinforcing it with your mouth! stop it!! :) :D any who had a thought have not seen any videos with naniwa's new series from you Gouken Deluxe I have a 1200grit but no more of this line looking at the 4000grit and 8000grit also have a 12000 super stone
@Burrfection
@Burrfection 6 лет назад
i will be doing a whole series of vides on the stones you just asked about. working on it. thanks for the encouragement.
@haylspa
@haylspa 6 лет назад
Welcome! Thank you for the videos you make there quite a lot of excellent content/information, I do love my 12,000 Naniwa superstone works excellent but 1,200 to 12,000 is not very good idea, how ever I did get a couple cheapness stones to cover that gap till can afford some more Naniwa's
@LL-tz8lo
@LL-tz8lo 4 года назад
STOP PROMOTING DALSTRONG... I SEE DALSTRONG, I DOWNVOTE
@poyichung3087
@poyichung3087 6 лет назад
Sandpaper stone actually produce very clean edge I don't even bother use leather after sandpaper. And I using a lot of that for my yanagiba sharpening because it's 100%flat, And no need to waste wetstone by flatten .
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