Cheap Windows 98 Retro Gaming Machine 

I did a Win98 install on an IBM Netvista desktop with a P4 1.8 Ghz---it was pretty fast

Is that the Slot A athlons, or later ones for Socket A?

@@SOU6900 Both, really. A slotted Athlon was a compelling alternative to a Pentium 2/3. And a socketed Athlon... those things screamed. Ran Win98 on a 1333 MHz TBird for a good while(oh, for a way to overclock it by just 4 MHz...). Fun system.

@@CptJistuce If I remember correctly I've got 2 slot A Thunderbirds. One I believe is a 750 the other a 900, which is currently installed on a basic Gateway board in my original 98SE system.

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haha born in 82.... first computer 92 right when Wolf 3d came out , ID solfware first big hit after Commander Keen series.... you missed the cool install games from disk era.. insert disk 1 press enter , insert disk 2 press enter.. type .exe file to run game. plus all those autoexec and config.sys files in DOS and the power menu to give you more conventional memory . I stopped buying games after Red alert 1 that my 486 could run just

Indeed ... as a collector or youtuber its nice to have a variety of different time period correct things, but for the casual gamer that wants a nostalgic hit, this is as good as it gets.

@@RetroSpector78 By the time I was messing with socket 939 (an Opteron 170 dual-core, that I eventually lost due to virus and theft) I was already running Windows XP on Athlon XP's (1GB RAM) and even a socket 754 Athlon 64...(1.25GB RAM - don't ask). I felt Windows 98 was a little "retro" for no good reason at that time, and never really had good luck with dual booting, so I never tried the Infernal Machine route with older operating systems... back in the day, I tended to be more current with the software than with the hardware, if you know what I mean. I also used to build systems from sometimes white-box parts. Now I'm running an old 4th gen i5 Optiplex with Windows 10. It has 8GB, so it works. Threw a 1030GT in it because the case mandated a single-slot half-height card. I wish I could do something bigger, or they could design something smaller/faster. I should have gotten the MT case instead of SFF, because a 1060/6GB or 1070 would be perfect. But I do like the smaller case. They should make the 1660 Super smaller. A lot smaller. I wonder how the Quadros (T600, for example) are for gaming? Anyway, now, I guess I'm still more current software-wise than hardware... it's a function of income I suppose. Sorry to ramble, but I guess I got lost in the nostalgia... among other things...

I think so long as the drivers exist, there’s no wrong in getting the right combination of hardware which have them available. I’ve been finding laptops preconfigured with the right hardware specs like that, they pack more power than the desktops of the time but I can use and bring them wherever I want to whenever I want to.

How does 98 handle multi core? I know win2000 serv has 4 cpu 4gb ram support

@@darunealbane Single processor support only. Interestingly, the Core2Duo is recognized as a Pentium 3. Meanwhile I have an E8500 with 3,1 Ghz running with Win98.

Not saying it doesn't have issues, but seems to be working fine for now.

@@RetroSpector78 Good luck with it

indeed. It is crazy how some of these things are selling on ebay. Not the prices I'm seeing here at local listings. There doesn't seem to be a real market for second hand retro stuff over here. At least not for selling :)

Nowadays even agp graphics cards like the geforce 6200 are selling for ludicrous prices in my area (these are not the ones that you can possibly get to work with a G4 cube). Seen afew of them asking for SGD $50.

@@MixShadowlight I actually bought a 6200 PCI a couple of years ago, I think that was £30+. Stupid money but I wanted it to just to see how it worked in a Pentium III, Window 98 SE build.

@@SMlFFY85 the ones they are selling are the agp version which are way more common and are literally worth nothing.

Imagine that ... would have been mind blowing.

That PC configuration didn't exist until the early 2000's. That would have annihilated anything available in the 1990s. So, yeah. You're not wrong. Just anachronistic.

@Green Mamba Games yeah, with the FX Series nVidia lost the Plot. the Architecture was just bad and IIRC it was texturing that stalled the Shader pipeline... No idea what nVidia was thinking with that Approach...

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@@Neksus-M06 That really helps

Retrobright for antec tower and clear coat to prevent from further yellowing of the plasic

Audigy 2 ZS will be my choice for audio, another cool is auzen x-fi prelude

Or a sort of reversed sleeper, in a new Antec case and a lot of RGB......

I got that same gpu in both my 98 and ME systems. 98 is rocking that old school Slot A Athlon Thunderbird. ME is some sort of Socket A cpu.

I appreciate your comment is 8 months old at this point, but it's now becoming almost cheaper to build a PC again as opposed to getting a pre-built from Dell, etc.

@@mrmerlin6287 Unless you're talking about a gaming rig, it's still cheaper to buy prebuilt. I've seen prebuilt desktops for as little as $300, and I paid $500 for my Dell, which came with a Core i5 and 8 gb of ram

@@justsumguy2u Ah, yes. I was still refering to a gaming PC. I don't use a PC professionally, just as a way to play games.

Please tell me why :D

and the problem with old rigs, they are heavy as hell. Sure they are built like tanks, but the weight!

Never ran a timedemo on this machine (I think). But will check.

Yeah that must have been a big difference compared to any video card you might have had :)

@@RetroSpector78 I remember now it was an s3 Virge/dx

@@RetroSpector78 I love these projects. I'm setting up a EPIA-V Mini itx with win98. Drivers are elusive..😀

Just built a PC with a Pentium II 350mhz. Also I have a Virge/DX in my Socket 7 DOS machine.

@ᶠᵘᶜ-ᵏ ᵐᵉ cнёcк ʍʏ ρяσfιℓ Last couple of Pentium 4 systems I got I recapped the Motherboards. This was years ago around 2010.

I have a similar Antec Case (but with the door and in grey) and I also use for the family NAS server at my home.

I have two similar cases like this. They are built really good and don't flex at all.

@@mashedpotatoes5323 they definitely solid

Pls wont ban This decal :c

I want a vortex 2 for my 98 machine, I currently have a Vortex Advantage. Unfortunately they aren’t that cheap.

The advantage does well, but the 2 is definitely better.

Might end up doing that indeed.

Many computers back in the day had nowhere near as much Ram as 512 MB even on top gaming PCs. I find its better to run a maximum of 256 MB Ram for Windows 98 SE.

A point xp maxes ram at 4g so a 512 98/xp meh Have a 512 dos/98 and am working on a 4g 2000/xp

WinXP was quite light. I managed to install it on a mere Pentium 133 with 64Mb RAM. Sure, it was slow but just for text editing, it was OK. But I used a later S7 motherboard model (Tyan Trinity S1592 ATX with AGPSet Chipset) with 384mb RAM, a k6-2 333MHz AMD CPU and a Geforce FX5500 [I know, quite overkill for the rest of the specs but i only had this one at this time] as a main driver for some times in the early 2010's and, beside games, i could do almost anything i need to do with it (including web browsing)

correct, there was no hyperthreading. That was an intel thing. They did come out with dual cores on S939, though... up to Athlon 64 X2 6400+ (3.2GHz actual clock dual-core). Faster than a Core 2 Duo E6600.

I had only three AMD systems in my life. The first was an X5-133. Flied like an eagle! I actually owned a Dell workstation with an X2, but never figured out why it kept stuttering music running in the background while I did simple tasks in the foreground: managing files, opening an app like excel. I've experimented with a SlotA Athlon before. On that processor, you'd have to recompile the kernel to have correct media playback with 3Dnow (on linux). There had to be some tweaks made here and there on these older AMD systems, but who knows maybe it was mostly the 3rd party chipsets fault. Similarly spec'd C2D's like an E8400 or Q6600 worked just fine. No stutters. But you know when you combined an intel cpu with a sis chipset it wasn't as good as using their own. There are always ups and downs between AMD and Intel. They had to do something good after like Duron, etc. It's a healthy competition. As long as they are competing we get better tech out of it.

The manual explicitly states that they should be in pairs. So 2 sticks in slot 1 and 2, or slot 3 and 4.

AMD dual channel didnt work like that but the opposite (1 next to the other)