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Cheapest Lithium Challenge: PUPVWMHB 100ah Mini 

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@bobuncle8704
@bobuncle8704 Год назад
Really enjoying this series Clark.
@vonfleming2178
@vonfleming2178 3 месяца назад
I have bought 4 of the regular size 12v 100ah blue tooth batteries of this brand. All I have done so far is to charge them, run a discharge and recharge them. I have gotten from 105.73 Ah to 110Ah. So far so good. I will be setting them up in 48v configuration once I get a 48v inverter. I plan on buying more in the near future once I get a few more solar panels to keep the system charged. I like them so far.
@RappinIggyG
@RappinIggyG Год назад
Continuation of a very great series. Looking forward to the "build" episode. Thanks guys.
@vonfleming2178
@vonfleming2178 8 месяцев назад
I have to say thank you for your very informative videos. I am just now getting into solar power and trying to learn about batteries. You have taught me so much. A little something in every video I have watched so far. You have answered questions I didn't even know I had til watching and learning. Thank you!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 8 месяцев назад
Nice of you to say.
@nodogrunner
@nodogrunner Год назад
Clark doing a raw cell DIY build. I'm in for watching that. I have a feeling I can predict how Temptress will be powered in the future. We will see.😊
@richmorpurgo5554
@richmorpurgo5554 Год назад
Nah, cruising doesn’t lend itself to electric.
@nodogrunner
@nodogrunner Год назад
@@richmorpurgo5554 The more I learn about the life style of cruising the more I understand there are no easy answers. It's all hard work and sacrifice. It will take time but the acceptance issues will get solved. You can't say there are no problems with diesel.
@richmorpurgo5554
@richmorpurgo5554 Год назад
daysailing from a dock with power DOES lend itself to electric though!
@livingsimplytosimplylive6817
As always, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with us.
@TheRealChetManley
@TheRealChetManley Год назад
Love this series
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Thanks
@scottkrebs586
@scottkrebs586 Год назад
Now to get you two that 100K plaque... working on it lol :)
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Yes please. Thanks
@Lana_Warwick
@Lana_Warwick Год назад
I've subbed with 2 different accounts, if everyone did that. Altho I primarily only view with one
@matthewrickett9592
@matthewrickett9592 Год назад
Oh ya. I’ll be a new sub. Thank you for the series. I’m using them in a small RV with limited space.
@brownnoise357
@brownnoise357 Год назад
Great Video Review again Clark. Keep up the Great Work. Bob, still Landlocked and Boatless in Wales. 👍⛵️✨️✨️✨️
@mememe5231
@mememe5231 Год назад
Can’t wait for the diy! Thank you for your effort
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
I think the cells are on a slow boat headed my way.
@SailingEssieMae
@SailingEssieMae Год назад
Thank you for this series!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
You're very welcome, Reggie
@wendellhammond7853
@wendellhammond7853 6 месяцев назад
always good info. I bought this brand and love them.
@mylifethaidiy7045
@mylifethaidiy7045 Год назад
"Nick & Raychel" youtube channel just did an interview with a couple that lives on a sailboat like you! Those people actually take customers out on 3 hours tours with their boat for part of the year.
@johnnylightning1491
@johnnylightning1491 Год назад
Well Clark you're starting to get the Will Prowse effect. The price on this battery is now $359. Oh well I guess that's the price of success. I'm liking this battery or it's brother. Keep the good stuff coming.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Yes the other one sold out in two days but they kept the price the same. Vote with your wallet!
@Despiser25
@Despiser25 5 месяцев назад
8 mo later they are for sale at $179. (209 on sale -30) The normal size one costs $149. Amazing how cheap they are getting.
@WoodiesAdventures
@WoodiesAdventures Год назад
Great videos guys! I'm retiring in 7 months and plan to make cruising my lifestyle. I hope to run into you two sometime. I'd love to buy you a meal and or maybe some beverages. Cheers!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Come on over and say hi if you see Temptress anchored someplace
@WoodiesAdventures
@WoodiesAdventures Год назад
Awesome!
@a2022z2
@a2022z2 Год назад
Great video. When you do testing on the bigger batteries I would like to see how well they are built from a mechanical point. I think that is important factor when choosing a battery for a boat. I do not like batteries where cells are just held together with tape.
@Lana_Warwick
@Lana_Warwick Год назад
Hi Clark, perhaps a topic for a vid, however wondering if you've ever researched 24/7 power generation? Particular at anchor, our boats are either facing into; 1) Wind - suitable for aeromine technology, silent, less moving parts/maintenance, impact safer, could be horizontal low profile on roof, can extract heat from cabin (could be diy'd). 2) Oncoming Tide/flow - suitable for hydro turbine, i.e. Pelton wheel (imagine flow between cat hulls). 3) Swell - perhaps anchor to boat pull/slack Centrifuge. Also - were sitting on all that salt water, surely there's a way to produce something from that.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
I have videos on building your own wind generator
@Lana_Warwick
@Lana_Warwick Год назад
@@Clarks-Adventure Are you still using the huge wooden Wright brothers blade system? We were all 4>5 years younger then, incl tech. No improvements, hydro or other not beneficial? Or is solar enuf for the 2 of you?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Solar is enough. And the rest of it isn't real. Things of writers that saw a picture of something and made up the rest
@Lana_Warwick
@Lana_Warwick Год назад
​@@Clarks-Adventure Thank you for responding. Considering going full electric, no fossils onboard (excl myself). Researching diy redundancies for gloomy periods.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
We haven't started an engine aboard for a year and a half. And AC most nights
@matthewrickett9592
@matthewrickett9592 Год назад
I bought 4 of these minis. So far good. A couple of tidbits. Customer service through Amazons contact system has been great. I get a response within 12 hours and detailed. Also, the only thing i can do in the app is change the name for each battery. In the app I don’t get the graphs to show any data.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
You should get graphs if you are using the same app I'm using. Buttons at the bottom. You need a different app to change parameters other than the battery names.
@matthewrickett9592
@matthewrickett9592 Год назад
@@Clarks-Adventure thank you. I’ll try that next summer when I use them again.
@SailingSarah
@SailingSarah Год назад
​@@matthewrickett9592did you get the Amazon protection or do you think the company will take care of any future issues ok?
@NerdThingsAndMore
@NerdThingsAndMore Год назад
Thanks for the info and video.
@davidnelson3411
@davidnelson3411 Год назад
Great video.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Thanks
@braithmiller
@braithmiller Год назад
Great pup 'crown' looks like a little devil kid toon. As I suspected, though some battery manufacturers are buying cases. 180+AH appears to be my better choice.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Next review is a 300ah power queen
@DonaldHammond-w8d
@DonaldHammond-w8d Год назад
Thanks
@acampbell198
@acampbell198 Год назад
On your leaderboard in the "Notes from Clark" column for the Redodo 200 Ah Plus you state: "If you are going to buy a bunch of Ah it's best to have it in the form of larger batteries. Getting more under each BMS has advantages". Really good info to know, I was heading down the path of two banks of 3 or 4, 100 ah batteries. Right now on Amazon I could get 6 100 Ah Redwoods for under $1800. Where the 300 Ah Redodo is $1100. So I was considering the cheaper option of course. However, your information that there are advantages to the "under one roof BMS" changes my value calculation...as does the additional cost of 2/0 cabling and battery lugs to build each bank of 3 or 4, 100 Ah batteries. Copper is NOT cheap these days and it takes time to make those cables. Additionally each one of those lugs is a weak point, fraught w/ the risk of a bad crimp, corrosion, etc. It is interesting to see how the different models of the same brand can diverge so much in quality/performance. There is a small difference between the 100 and 200 Ah Redodo (200 Ah cells are only a good for instance). Wondering about any possible differences in the 300 Ah version. Curious, what's better "Great" or "Excellent"? I assume Great is better because you made it bright green but thought I would ask. Awesome video series and tests. Try not to burn down your boat though😉.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
After I answered your comment I will start filming on a 300ah power queen. Very similar to the Redodo. So Saturday I'll likely have a lot to say about larger batteries. Everything you bring up is correct. Look below the leader board. There is a key to the relative order of my words.
@robl6823
@robl6823 Год назад
Thank you for taking the time to share the video. I’ve been waiting for it to come out. The dimension sheet on this one and the elefast battery are different measurements. Can you provide true measurements of the battery? I’m debating between the elefast and re-dodo, but would prefer the prismatic cells and cold temp shut off if it is the correct size. Thanks!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
10.125x6.75x8.75. With a ruler
@robl6823
@robl6823 Год назад
Thank you so much!! I was hoping it would fit in my group 24 boxes.
@KennethEverett_N
@KennethEverett_N Год назад
@@Clarks-Adventure Perhaps update the dimensions on your spreadsheet. I almost dismissed the Elefast and this one because the sheet says the length is 12 inches. Thanks for the videos, BTW. They are proving very helpful to inform my buying decision.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Done. Thanks
@redwood1957
@redwood1957 Год назад
I'm laughing you look in the locker then jump. Im saying is nutty professor or Doc the correct name. Thanks
@andrewkerr659
@andrewkerr659 Год назад
Could you address whether the batteries are ABYC E-13 compliment?
@miltonenglish1679
@miltonenglish1679 3 месяца назад
Question for you. I plan to use this battery as a backup system for an aquarium pump such that if/when the power goes off, the battery backup will kick in. I want to know if I can keep it on a trickle charger while it is connected to the pump that way it will always be fully charge or will i have to top it off manually every so often? ie, i am not sure how long it will stay fully charge if not being used. Many thanks. Milton
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 3 месяца назад
Good question. Li is touchy about this stuff I built a thing called a BankManager that takes care of li bank but for an aquarium it would be ridiculously expensive. So not the perfect answer and your battery won't be treated perfectly but I'd float it at 13.3v. (definitely below 13.48v). And charge it to 13.8v then stop only after it gets used like in a power outage.
@hectorquintanilla5520
@hectorquintanilla5520 9 месяцев назад
Hello Clark great videos quick question is saw the video on putting lithium batteries in parallel. I bought the elefast mini, I saw the pupvmhab considering that this is or might be the same manufacturer/ battery, is it possible to parallel elefast and pupvmhab 12v 100ah without habing any issues. Thank Clark and Emily keep videos coming.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 9 месяцев назад
Yes for those obvious exact copies you'd be good. The only difference is the label.
@johnq.public2621
@johnq.public2621 Год назад
I'd be curious where all these battery manufacturers are getting their supplies/components from? 🤪
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Well China of course. I don't think I understand your question.
@johnq.public2621
@johnq.public2621 Год назад
@@Clarks-Adventure Just sarcasm, no proper emoji for that!
@braithmiller
@braithmiller Год назад
They have more manufacurers of lithium than the usa has lead.
@josevelaz9385
@josevelaz9385 7 месяцев назад
Hi, I was wondering if you have a good reference for Moseworth batteries? Supposedly they are from the same people of Flypower. The 100ah lifepo4 model on Ebay (USA) are in 175$ with free shipping. I am undecided between the Moseworth and the EcoWorthy also 100ah which cost about 190$. Which one would you recommend?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 7 месяцев назад
I have no experience with those but look at the "leaderboard" linked in the description. The prices are old but it's a list of the batteries I've reviewed. This video was my worst review. Take a look at my other reviews, there are things to be learned about LiFePO4 in general.
@josevelaz9385
@josevelaz9385 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for your help 👍🏼
@clarklove72
@clarklove72 4 месяца назад
In the product description it says only 4 batteries can be connected in series or in parallel? Why is this? Why could I not connect 6 in series for 72v in order to run a high performance golf cart?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 4 месяца назад
BMS isn't up to what would happen when one shuts down
@clarklove72
@clarklove72 4 месяца назад
Ahh. Too bad there’s not some middleware that would allow the BMS’s to communicate with one another.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 4 месяца назад
It won't help you but to put more in parallel you can use multiple BankManagers You should use 24v or 48v batteries
@donniefoster7713
@donniefoster7713 4 месяца назад
So if I buy this battery is it gonna be ok if I buy a 10amp 14.6 volt charger to charge the battery? Km gonna use it for a trolling battery
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 4 месяца назад
Watch my other videos and check out the batteries on my leader board (in the description). In short it will put power in the battery but charging Li for long life is tricky
@brianmiley2109
@brianmiley2109 Год назад
Is there a way to turn the Bluetooth off for off season storage? If not does it draw enough to run down a battery during 6-8 months of storage?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
I bet it doesn't draw a lot.
@WilliamAArnett
@WilliamAArnett Год назад
Is it OK to charge a LiFePO4 battery at zero Celsius if the charge current is very low?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Nope.
@j_7772
@j_7772 Год назад
Is this the same battery? FEENCE 12V 100Ah Mini Bluetooth LIFEPO4 Battery.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Looks like it to me. I know they are the same parent company. So now there are three.
@j_7772
@j_7772 Год назад
ok, thank you!!@@Clarks-Adventure
@REK1DZ
@REK1DZ Год назад
Where can we buy your Battery management system ? you should put a link in the video description Thanks PS : all your links in the video description are pointing to nowhere ( amazon, emily link, speadsheet doc, etc ..) you are an amazing technician but real bad for business
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
That was odd. Thanks they should work now
@brucehislop8860
@brucehislop8860 Год назад
I noted the same thing, leaderboard link leads nowhere.
@SailingSarah
@SailingSarah Год назад
Im about to buy 4 of these. What you say?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
My opinion is on my leader board (along with a link that gives me money from the manufacturer). Seems like a good battery to me.
@SailingSarah
@SailingSarah Год назад
@@Clarks-Adventure dumb question, what's a leader board? 🤔
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
There is a link to it in the description of all our battery reviews. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1dyJf7SuYQFxorzdIANKgf7Qk3hviZYzSHoNdjxqUKeM/htmlview Click it. You will see.
@SailingSarah
@SailingSarah Год назад
​@@Clarks-Adventureexcellent! Thank you for your work.
@richardriehle4159
@richardriehle4159 Год назад
does the bluetooth app work on chromebooks ?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
I don't know? Do apps usually work on Chromebooks
@BuzzKill67
@BuzzKill67 Год назад
Love your content and don't want to be that guy but you have an "A" in the model number that is not on the battery..... just trying to save search time when people go looking to buy....
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Thank you. I guess we can't even type words that can't be pronounced!
@SailingSarah
@SailingSarah Год назад
What would these batteries do if shorted out by a flood of seawater?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Seawater is less conductive than you probably think. So likely it would just discharge over a day or so. But if shorted by a copper bar it would shut down in a few seconds. That's one of the jobs of a BMS
@SailingSarah
@SailingSarah Год назад
@@Clarks-Adventure I've heard how they can flare up and be not very nice.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
That's more a think of the other li-ion variants. LiFePO4 is hard to get into thermal run-away. That's why we use only this on boats. I don't want my big decision some day to be "do I drown or do I burn".
@SailingSarah
@SailingSarah Год назад
@@Clarks-Adventure man I heard that!
@SailingSarah
@SailingSarah Год назад
@@Clarks-Adventure I was wondering how I was going to build a fireproof enclosure for them on my Catalina 27 with its very limited space. I'm working on setting it up to do a passage next year.
@larryb5914
@larryb5914 Год назад
Then ypu moved in front of camera and it was great view
@stevethurlow9059
@stevethurlow9059 Год назад
How do you get to your battery list?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
There is a link in the description. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dyJf7SuYQFxorzdIANKgf7Qk3hviZYzSHoNdjxqUKeM/edit?usp=drivesdk
@larryb5914
@larryb5914 Год назад
Difficult to see phone app...
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Sorry. Phone was set too bright
@larryb5914
@larryb5914 Год назад
@EmilyAndClark , no worries, as you made me aware of the dangers of hacking the battery Bluetooth, more important to protect me from that evil...now I will be sure to avoid that feature, until there is a way to secure from hackers....very grateful!
@RubyZhang-xg4ht
@RubyZhang-xg4ht Год назад
Hi Mr. Clark, I'm Ruby and I sent you an email yesterday. I'm looking forward to your reply!☺
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Reply sent. Wire
@RubyZhang-xg4ht
@RubyZhang-xg4ht Год назад
Replied again☺@@Clarks-Adventure
@timevans8223
@timevans8223 Год назад
These cheap batteries with passive balance are awful. So much better to have a BMS with active balance that uses 2A taken from the high voltage cell and pushed to the cell with the lowest voltage. Balancing concerns like those in this video are a thing of the past
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
I agree. I'll be putting active balance in the one I build from cells.
@herkko61
@herkko61 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for this hint. It's good to know about better technology in balancing the cells.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 10 месяцев назад
And active balancers can be bought on eBay for like 5 bucks
@timevans8223
@timevans8223 10 месяцев назад
@EmilyAndClark have you tested to see if a $5 active balancer actually works? I am much happier to use a JK BMS 200A with a built-in active balancer. $100 For the money, this isn't a better one on the market, yet
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 10 месяцев назад
Yes I have one a test and I read the datasheet on the chip it's based on. I use the one that doesn't have a bunch of capacitors on the board I'll do a video sometime. No reason you can't run in parallel with the BMS of your choice.
@GeorgeGraves
@GeorgeGraves Год назад
$239.00 - saved ya all a click.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Where did you find it for that price??
@GeorgeGraves
@GeorgeGraves Год назад
Give you three guesses - but it sound like "pamazon".
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
For two hundred and 39 dollars?
@GeorgeGraves
@GeorgeGraves Год назад
yes. $239.00 exactly - youtube doesn't allow links in comments - this is us amazon, from a us computer
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Excellent price!
@russingersoll5761
@russingersoll5761 Год назад
What's with all of these nonsensical product names all of a sudden?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
You need to register your trademark to sell on Amazon. Those are easy to be unique and since their brand is based on being the cheapest there is no need to be memorable.
@jonathanwetherell3609
@jonathanwetherell3609 Год назад
Information overload. All this data we can get with kit, what use is it? If you have the learning it may be of use. As an example, Food packaging labeling (in the UK). Only about 1 in 10 actually read the data. Of those only about 1 in 10 understand it and only about 10% use that to make a choice. So, all that info for 0.1% of users.
@alverundberg5807
@alverundberg5807 Год назад
Cheap, you didnt tellas the price
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Год назад
Sorry It's on the leader board. Link to buying one and price per watt
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