Thanks for watching, i figured I would throw some rounds through it so you don’t have to try and see what happens. Not a bad shotgun for the money. Skip to the middle and on to see some shooting and final thoughts.
The key to these semi auto shottys is thst you need to get it broken in but you can do it by hand to save ammo. Leave the factory oils on it and dont lube at all til later. Rack the bolt hard as many times as possible, if you doit 1000 times its not too much. You want to put pressure in different directions on the bolt to wear each side. Then clean it all really good and oil it . Then lock the bolt back for awhile {months} to soften the spring and anytime u play with it around the house just keep racking that bolt hard and itll shoot lighter loads no problem. If not its junk😂😂
Many of the reviews I see reviewing clones of Combat Shotguns complain that they don't shoot bird shot reliably. The gas system / operating system of combat shotguns is designed for high recoil combat oriented ammunition. Not bird shot ! Most of these guns come with operating instructions that clearly state this fact, and yet I have been seeing the same complaint that they don't operate reliably with bird shot for years.
I know that I may have complained about that some . I tested the ammo to show that is did t reliably work. I know ultimately though that it was designed for specific loads. People should definitely know that going into it.
@@RandoWayne Thank you for the reply, I did not mean to criticize you personalty , I was making an observation of the RU-vid gun content makers in general . I thought your video was well done, and I am glad you you pointed out all the practical uses and versatility of a 20inch barrel with choke tubes. I encourage you to drill and tap it for a red dot . I recently did this for a similar class CZ utility shotgun and then purchased a laser bore site from amazon for less than $ 20.00. I was able to print 2" groups with slugs at 50 yards and my shot patterns were bullseyes also, it really builds confidence when you know the gun is sighted accurately. Thank you for the work you put into the video, you are a credit to the American gun community .
@@BrokeAssTruckerwell, it is the most widely available round most people can find in stores. So I figured why not. I figured if it works it works, if it doesn’t, then don’t use it.
@@Hjerte_Verke interesting. I’m a lefty, but right eye dominant. The rude awakening that I needed to shoot a bow right handed was not fun, but I grudgingly bought a right handed bow, and continue to shoot right handed with a pistol and rifle.
Great, got one myself and fed 10 rounds of light loads only to have not cycle after each shot. Disassembled and reassembled 3 times. Still no cycling. BUT I also noticed, despite the forward grip being tight and everything cranked down, the forward grip slips forward roughly a quarter inch. Whats annoying is that you say I need to spend $115-$130 in just burning high end ammo to break it in? That kinda sucks.
Look for heavy game\field loads they have more weight of shot and are higher brass than target loads. They are the cheapest high brass loads, Its barely more than the absolute cheapest birdshot u can get for federal heavy game loads or field
Question, were you shooting the light loads/lower velocity loads with the light load piston? Would that fix your issue with it having trouble cycling the lighter and less velocity loads?
I actually left it locked back for a week straight prior to filming this. It is working through ammo well though. I do realize though it wasn’t designed to shoot light bird loads. Not bad for the price and still holding up
@@thomashalley7258 The interwebz offers a full variety of loads in all flavors so the "can't find it" is a bit untrue. Best to buy in full flats too (10 boxes).
Great review, I have watched this several times. Mine should be coming in soon. At 1350 00 buck would u recommend the heavy piston or light? I think the online manual says 1450 or less light piston just want to confirm
Thanks for watching. I used the light piston for pretty much everything. I will say that the recommended 1350 and faster is true especially if you’re using game loads. For buck shot at that speed the light piston should be good for you. Take care
My m4 runs like a swiss watch.spare yourself the price of "break in ammo" and leave the bolt locked back for a week or two in between shooting to loosen the buffer spring(if you can't wait)
I think you are being a little unfair with your "i wouldnt trust it with my life because that means it should cycle any shell i put in it." That doesnt make sense. Thats like saying a glock isnt reliable because it wont cycle .380. It wasnt designed for that. Judt like this shotgun is designed for hot loads. I also dont know why you would be defending your life with light loads.
Trusting with your life does not only equate to self defense, it also includes the ability to harvest game. Using the comparison of completely different calibers and a gun not being to use does not make sense as a 12g 3 inch shotgun should if one is to fully rely on in for defense or hunting be able to fire any 3 inch 12g load put in it. Side note from a few feet away I wouldn’t want hit with light or heavy rounds.
@@RandoWayne my point even still stands. That's like saying a Glock is unreliable because the light load you reloaded didn't work. There are reliable guns out there that don't shoot all of what that caliber has to offer. I mean no disrespect. Just sharing my opinion.
I didn’t take it as disrespect, I am just offering an opinion. I have a few semi automatic shotguns that legitimately will cycle anything. To me those are what I would consider trusting my life with. You’re right though some guns just aren’t meant to work with certain rounds or loads.
I just bought one yesterday. For break in, I am looking to use 2 3/4 inch. 1oz. rifled slugs 1550-1650 fps. For this ammo, should I keep the Light Load piston in it, or should I switch to the Heavy load piston for the break-in?
@@RandoWayne Tried to shoot with the heavy piston with those 2 3/4 inch high velocity slugs and it would not cycle. Switched to the light piston and ran thru 20 slugs flawlessly. I’m sticking with the light piston for the next 100 rounds or so and will try the heavy piston again to see if it cycles it and if there is a bit less felt recoil.
@@carmbu yeah you do have to test it like that and find what really works best for you. I’m glad you’re having success though and thanks for the update!
I tried and it worked, mind you i only did it 2 times. I believe some of the parts are compatible with cz shotguns actually. If you look at some older cz hunting shotguns you will see a lot of similarities with the internal work like this gun.
I’d probably go with the stoeger as the support and likelihood it will fire all types of rounds will be better. The panzer is great but if you plan on hunting go with stoeger
The average mean self-defense encounter occurs at 7+/- yards so patterning your buckshot at 25 yards with the cylinder choke is beyond the pale. The pattern entropy at that range is beyond undesirable. I'd start with Improved Cylinder at the very least and work your way up the choke constrictions, but at 25 yards it's a poor pattern and for good reason. You're doing a disservice to this weapon or any shotgun. 😉
You’re right that at 25 yards and cylinder bore the pattern won’t be good at all. I was just shooting it to show, in no way was it real world scenario. As you said self defense is close contact and will definitely pattern well with cylinder bore at 7 yards. Showing that a shotgun isn’t meant for certain ranges as some defense shotguns are strictly cylinder bore without the option of chokes puts in perspective how they are meant to be used. I did no disservice to this shotgun, I showed how it can be used and not used, along with what ammo works and does not. 😉
Thank you for the reply. I really liked the video and narrowed the EG200 or Maverick 88 as my first shotgun but just some considerations would be a heat shield, a bigger bolt handle and an extended bolt release would be my major upgrading thoughts really leaning to the Panzer now@@RandoWayne
I’m not trying to sway your opinion but I also have a maverick 88 and that is one gun i trust , it will run anytime and everything I out through it. I know as far as aftermarket support there is more for the maverick. The eg200 will also serve you well if strictly for defense.
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