Cheapest Way to heat a house without electricity (Gas vs Wood Fireplaces)

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⏲️ TIME STAMPS ⏲️
0:00 - 1:06 : Intro
1:07 : Common misconception
3:01 : Pros of wood heat
5:37 : Cons of wood heat
9:18 : Cons of gas heat
11:22 : Pros of gas heat
18:21 : Conclusion
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Today, Trevor is going over some details on different ways to heat your home without electricity. Both of these types of units are able to work "off the grid", but which one is easier to install and more cost effective? Watch as Trevor breaks down the difference between these two sources of heat.
Gas heat has some really nice benefits and some cons. The biggest benefit of gas heating is the install. The piping for gas heat is a lot easier to install and easier to pipe out of the hoise rather than a wood stove. Another positive is the ease of use with a gas fireplace. As Trevor explains, it's a lot more convenient to wake up and turn on your gas fireplace compared to a wood burning fireplace. One of the biggest cons is that while you are somewhat off the grid you are not fully able to heat your house with out some source of gas.
Wood heat has both some negatives and positives as well. One of the biggest negatives of wood heat is the start up time and maintaining the fire. Most people dont have a lot of time in the morning to tend their fire making it somewhat difficult to warm up quickly! I think the biggest positive is that with wood burning fireplces is that you are truly off the grid if you havea good source of wood.
Let us know which type of heat you prefer? As always thanks for watching and be sure to like, comment, and subscribe to the Embers channel. More videos incoming!
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Комментарии : 88

@marian9445 Год назад

Props on these videos. A lot of good info, thanks.

@embersliving Год назад

Thanks!

@timothythompson4036 Год назад

Excellent video. A very balanced view on a very complicated subject. I live in Maine. Wood is the way to go here. We have an old farm house with an oil fired boiler and steam radiators. We put in a big Lopi wood fireplace insert. It paid for itself in the first two years!!

@embersliving Год назад

thanks

@zm7094 9 месяцев назад

I live in NH and I have the same set up. Works great!

@arjaropelinen8463 10 месяцев назад

Nice video👍 Some downsides of wood heating: Converting a house into wood-burning is major work and expensive. In addition to external storage, you need a storage box for woods next the wood-burning stove. The chimney must be sniffed/kleened once a year to avoid a dangerous soot fire. To keep the house/room warm,woods must be added continuesly. If you are at work, your house is cold, when you come home(same in the nights). If yoy have to buy custom-made wood including transportation costs a lot these days. For elderly unfit people, wood heating can be tiring.

@embersliving 10 месяцев назад

Very true! It can be a lot of work.

@Jo-zj7mv 7 месяцев назад

All true! Plus if you don’t have wood on your property, it can be difficult finding a good supply of fully seasoned wood. Wood guys are always trying to pass off green wood. Or they don’t give you a FULL cord!

@bradleynance6458 Год назад

We recently purchased the Iron Strike Grandview 300 from you to be installed in a custom build short term rental in the North Carolina mountains. After some debate, wood was chosen over gas with the thought that renters on vacation would actually enjoy tending a real wood fire as a different type of experience. Your staff was a pleasure to deal with.

@embersliving Год назад

great feedback !

@jeandeaux2129 Год назад

Excellent, informative vid----thx for posting!

@embersliving Год назад

No problem! Thanks for watching.

@jc_compto 7 месяцев назад

Excellent presentation!👏 Thanks!

@embersliving 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching !!

@vinquinn Год назад

I live in Greece. Right now with all that is going on the cheapest fuel you can buy is Propane.

@embersliving Год назад

good to know

@polsok44 Год назад

Well done video👍 I would like to see more videos on not just wood stoves but various zero clearance wood fireplaces. Alot of people still dont think zero clearance can heat efficiently and be an effective heater

@crispychicken2743 Год назад

Forget it .a dark winter is coming. Get a real stove that is what its called and not an eye stove for looks. If you can put your hand on the top when its on you got a crap stove . The point of a wood stove it survive the winter not for looks. Dont be fooled . There are many old stoves from the 70s that will heat your house to 75 all winter long who cares about the looks when your family is freezing to death.

@embersliving Год назад

@crispychicken2743 Год назад

A wood stove is what you need . An old wood stove is the best one to get. If you cant boil water on a wood stove you got the wrong one. Return it . I can crank my stove up to 750 or better . I can cook bacon and eggs on it . The hell with the epa.

@embersliving Год назад

Ha ok

@Xanduur Год назад

Just let the world burn, huh?

@crispychicken2743 Год назад

@@Xanduur thats right .i let it burn .

@crispychicken2743 Год назад

@@embersliving ok my ass . You people make everything complicated. Wood stove heating goes back a long long time. . Tell me . Would you install a wood stove for the looks or to really heat your whole house. My stove runs the best at around 700 degrees. At a lower temperature it is a waist of time. The only result im looking for is heat and more heat . 20 years now and no house fires or problems. I clean the pipes every month or so.

@crispychicken2743 Год назад

@@embersliving oh . And i dont have a fresh air intake . No need for that unless your house was built in 2018 or newer. Thats the code here. Triple wall stainless steel pipe. And no screen in the cap. Ripped it out on day one . Thats screen will be your biggest problem when it clogs. Any more questions?

@mr.x1510 Год назад

I find it very interesting that you get that much negative comments. I think it comes from indecision because I'm trying to figure out how a wood stove would work for me

@embersliving Год назад

we are here to help

@jko0526 Год назад

I have a natural gas direct vent fireplace in my home. We may put a roof over our deck this summer and I was thinking about adding some kind of wood burning heat source for ambiance and heat on the cold spring/fall nights. In our neighborhood a couple of our neighbors have wood burning stoves for supplemental heat and in the fall my wife and I love the smell of our neighborhood when they are using there stoves. It’s oddly welcoming for some reason. So I guess I can see both sides of the story.

@embersliving Год назад

true

@petermahoney1709 8 месяцев назад

Great video I have a contractors grade propane gas insert with tempered glass is there any advantage to converting the tempered glass to ceramic glass?

@Comm0ut 3 месяца назад

The wise have more than one heating method for backup so nature doesn't kill us. If you have free wood as many do wood wins on cost but is labor intensive if you harvest it yourself. LP wins on convenience but is expensive. Use both and if LP supply is interrupted you still have your wood pile.

@embersliving 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the comment!

@cetyl2626 Год назад

I have access to free wood on my property right here. However, I have an HVAC and carpet and don't have the time (and wife doesn't have the time to enjoy it). So while I do have a masonry fireplace, it messes with HVAC too much (even though it has a fresh air damper on the side) I think I'll go with a gas set that my wife can push a button and enjoy woodland view. I think I'll install a high efficiency wood burning stove in my shop (separate building) to offset the propane I plan to also have for convenience.

@embersliving Год назад

good feedback

@Jo-zj7mv 7 месяцев назад

Homeboy just drawin’ on walls like he in East LA…

@embersliving 7 месяцев назад

Oh yeah

@remotetrapper8991 10 месяцев назад

Great video. Can the fireplace be operated without the fan on a permanent basis ? Thanks

@embersliving 10 месяцев назад

Yes, its better if you have a higher end fireplace because they use better glass to help heat your room. We talk about it in this video : Blower vs. No Blower (Can I add a blower to my gas fireplace?) : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IW56vS2WKEs.html

@TheDroidekas Год назад

Would be awesome if you Trevor could explain the difference between natural gas and propane fireplace, they use different burners it seams for conversion. Do they heat as much ? Pros and cons etc !

@embersliving Год назад

thats a great idea!

@vinquinn Год назад

Propane has more energy than natural gas. Natural gas requires larger burner orifices than propane to get the same heat.

@brad4527 Год назад

@@vinquinn propane$$$$$

@marks6663 8 месяцев назад

wood stoves only make sense if you use outside combustion air. I assumed all EPA stoves were outside combustion, just like all high efficiency furnaces. If not, they all need to be if they want to be efficient. Heating up the air in the room only to send it up the chimney makes no sense when you can use outside air for combustion.

@embersliving 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching

@jamespidcock3772 5 месяцев назад

Another benefit of Gas vs. Wood with Traditional Fireplaces is no cleanup. Just wondering how hard, and costly with Initial Installation of switching from Wood to Natural Gas?

@embersliving 5 месяцев назад

You would have to contact an installer to look at your space.

@seanmclean9325 Год назад

Where I live in Wyoming we do not have access to natural gas so propane is our source. I am building and have a choice to make…….wood or propane. I like the convenience of gas and am curious as to how expensive it will be to run propane. Can you give me an estimate? I realize there are many factors to include, I am just looking for ballpark figure kind of similar to how you said natural gas would be equivalent to chord of wood. Thanks.

@embersliving Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@aurelienyonrac Год назад

Wood is cheaper. And the workout will keep you young and healthy.

@magslead 8 месяцев назад

You have awesome videos...but what's up with writing on the walls with a marker?! What did Tate say about that? lol

@embersliving 8 месяцев назад

Yeah he was mad, but we painted over it

@richrobb2322 Год назад

Wood! Great way to get some exercise ! I like to split it to 4" diameter so I can "pack" the stove full for a long burn!

@embersliving Год назад

T good ide!

@emiliebova Год назад

I like the convenience of a gas fireplace.

@embersliving Год назад

Same

@MAR-gd8zb 8 месяцев назад

After watching this, I need to find an installer in Michigan for a gas fireplace. Does anyone in the comment section have any suggestions?

@nicholasbaker2904 8 месяцев назад

As you said its case dependant. I'd love wood. I really do. But with work schedules and kid business. Gas is flexible bc its more set it and forget it. Plus if it's not the sole heater in the house and only ran for asthetics when your home or if the power is out. Then gas is the no Brainer. At our family camp it's wood heat all day.

@embersliving 8 месяцев назад

Great input thanks for the comment

@fredtew4162 Год назад

Wood is buy far the best form of heat and cheap.

@embersliving Год назад

Yes, its a great way to stay warm.

@ronvosick8253 Год назад

Self-standind gas fireplace?

@embersliving Год назад

wait what ?

@annehamptondewitt4413 Год назад

Burn wood here. It is our first year burning wood. We just bought a wood stove insert.

@embersliving Год назад

nice!

@franciscorodriguez9374 10 месяцев назад

I do not if somebody has asked it before. The most important question for me is, can you burn marshmallows in a gas fireplace?

@embersliving 10 месяцев назад

You can but not a good idea

@LyleAltig101 Год назад

Wood!

@embersliving Год назад

yup

@JS-jh4cy 2 месяца назад

Get wood furnace not wood stove

@ERJONI25 Год назад

Wood is the way to go. Nothing comes close to it

@embersliving Год назад

aw yeah

@dwmcever Год назад

BTU's not Temperature. Temp is meaningless.

@embersliving Год назад

Which one do you prefer ??

@chancecgbdingle5438 Год назад

Southern New York here. 7 to -17 degrees today. 500 dollar vogelzang defender bought 12 years ago for card games in my basement. Brought it upstairs last year because central hudson is killing me. 80 degrees in my 14,000 square foot home. 16 splits of wood in 14 hours half of em green. Last year was -4 and seasoned wood got my house to 104 degrees. I had front and back door open several times in my underwear 🤣🤣🤣

@embersliving Год назад

cool

@samsquires2877 Год назад

Lets see the temperature coming off of a Heat N Glo 6000CLX. I’m not here for a mendoda sales pitch.

@embersliving Год назад

its not as hot I promise you

@observingrogue7652 Год назад

@7:46 How is an All Electric system expensive in the long run? Sure, the up front cost of components like batteries, can be expensive, especially if you go for lithium instead lead-acid. But don't heat pumps, resistive heaters, generators, and solar panels last a long time? Little to no maintenance? And you get a massive cycle life out of batteries, if you take care of them, like keeping them between 20 & 80%, even more cycle life if you keep them around 60%, and do other behaviors that don't stress out or endanger the batteries. I think like with Hybrid Vehicles, having both is may be the best option, because like with vehicles, if you run out of fuel, or the traditional system is down for maintenance or a malfunction, you can run on saved battery power for a while. And like with hybrid vehicles, the battery & traditional heating systems can compliment each other. Like the instant torque of electric motors can accelerate a vehicle best, from dead stops and low speeds, and an electric heating system can quickly heat a home, until a furnace or stove heats up. And the thermostat will detect the rise in heat and start tapering off the electric system, saving your battery for another cold start, or emergency.

@observingrogue7652 Год назад

I just checked. Solar panels last a very long time, but degrade, losing about 0.5% performance every year. Down to 95% effective in 10 years. 50% output in 100 years. You have to think about when performance will be minimally acceptable to you, just like with glowing Tritium watches & gun-sights. Water wheel, wind turbine, and exercise generator bearings, it depends. I don't know how long or low maintenance heat pumps and resistive heating elements last, or how low maintenance they are. I think the best option for my future offgrid living situation, is a woodstove battery electric hybrid system.

@embersliving Год назад

all good points