"He shoved his *knight* into my *position.* It was the *most painful thing* I have ever experienced. I got destroyed as if it was *my first Caro-Kann game of my life."*
Yeah, I did this too, until I realized they were playing openings and halfway into mid-game. Then! Once they realize they're losing. Stockfish for endgames.... Sub-1300's playing absolute brilliant End Games.....
He is Tattle tail is dead We use the word snitch now. 5 year old snitch Not a tattle Really seals in the guilt . Gotta do that early when they can still feel something before they become numb like everyone else in modern society
Me: "My opponent is playing too perfectly and too quickly. He looks like a cheater; let me check the analysis" The computer: "dog you're 800 elo you just play like doodoo lmao"
@@xmipad-rafaelxaverianmulya6084 This. No matter what the engine does that wins against you, post-game analysis will always call it punishment of your "mistake" rather than brilliancy of their play, because that's just how competitive games work. Anything your enemy does is because of what you allowed them to do. Doesn't mean it wasn't unreasonably difficult to pull off.
The cheater probably lost the final game and reported "I was using stockfish in this game and still lost, which means my opponent must be using an even more powerful engine. What a disgrace, ban them right now pls"
@@flexedkumquat MY games are only suspicious when I'm following Gotham advice properly. I once won with 100% accuracy using what I learned from his Albin Countergambit video. To be fair, my opponent resigned within the first 7 moves. It wouldn't have stayed at 100
@@itsonlyentertainment2937 Nah dude its ok. I also had 100 accuray 10-12 move games with the traxler, where I checkmated my opponents extremely fast cuz they didnt know theory.
Seems like levys trying new things: "I haven't stopped thinking about how badly I got destroyed by this guy. He shoved his knight into my position; it was the most painful thing I have ever experienced"
At the end, you said "you are worth more than a queen..." . I was having a really bad day today, but seriously your comment made me literally shed tears of pure joy. Thank-you so much Gotham.... Lots of love and respect from your student from India.
@@Holy_Kebab crying in my own solitude doesn't make me weak. It clears my mind. Perhaps ask your own father how many times he must have cried for u. Also i think u should rather check ur own empathy levels.
@@sp1r1tm0lecule You wrote "pathetic" in response to a guy who felt relief in a stressful moment after hearing kind words and then decided to express it in the comments. I'd never do it like this cuz it's embarassing and can be cringe, but it's definitely something everyone sometimes feels. I don't know if for you it's hard to understand an articulate concept like this, the whole idea of stress and relief. It would be a little pathetic
No we know how to improve Caro Kann now. If eg. h4 h6. it was also recommended in an old caro kann video I just didn't know why till now and don't play a queen move.
@@alpeshbista3484 I closed my account and stopped in a club many years ago because I used too much time on a daily basis on chess. Now I only watch chess videos and train chess tactics.
Some 10-12 years ago I was in a chessclub in Germany. There was GM for long distanz games and he told me sometimes he could figure out what engine his opponent used because he himself would run multiple engines for houres to win games.
When I suspect someone is cheating and I run the engine, I'll run the analysis at a higher depth to see if inaccuracies turn into good or excellent moves. That's usually a dead giveaway.
This is simply great! You convert a scenario that involves unfair activity such as cheating into content that is not only entertaining but also something one can learn from, and not only about the game chess itself but even about differences between human thinking and computer thinking. Thanks a lot!
This was very entertaining. I particularly enjoyed that you cake back and said the last part about how getting crushed in the khan hurt you. Very authentic
I think instead of banning cheaters, they should get a batch of CHEATING which they cannot see but others can. So that people can actually have fun without any tension of getting rating decreasing problems. It's sometimes good to try to beat cheaters although losing is assured. Anyway, I love Gotham's content on cheaters.
@@Sarah-oj7bh Sometimes cheating can be done for pranking but people should never cheat in serious and important matches where they face respectable players. 😄
I was like, why is GothamChess still showing as IM, wasn't he a... Oh **** it was on April 1st. I cannot believe it took me till April 5 to realize this fact...
Guess the elo original content over cheater content any day. Yeah computers have been good at chess for three decades and insane for at least one decade. Is it fascinating to watch computer supported games vs humans? For a game or two, sure. But the reactions to and human analysis for guess the elo games, for me, is where the fun is at. Everybody can relate. I mean, I don't learn from a five moves deep stockfish strategy vs Levy and from why Levy's H5 turned out to be bad ten moves after it's played. Sure there's some excitement in watching the brutality of a machine crushing some human player. But it's a short excitement, you quickly remember that really nobody's been crushed there. I'll rather watch a pure computer's matchup like the first alpha zero vs stockfish series. That's the far more enjoyable experience of watching computer's at full strength ;)
I actually consider playing a lot of those 'weird' moves. It's just that I'd never follow them up with a perfect plan like Stockfish. I'd play Bh6, take on e7 and play Qe2
Watching you get crushed that quickly has only made me further appreciate Vishy Anand. Dude played over 90% accuracy against stockfish during a simul, some of whom were also using stockfish during their games.
Honestly stockfish cheater games are amazing. Stockfish just slowly shoves itself into your position and there's nothing you're allowed to do about it. It's like you have a sword but stockfish just has a solid wall that it pushes, slowly but surely, and it shoves you into the edge of the arena, inch by inch, and then at the last moment it breaks through and turns your head into a smoothie with a brick.
Louis he wasn’t leaving a hate comment, he was pointing out a statement which is fairly logical and simple to understand. Chess at this level is primarily concepts at the beginning and then near the endgame they’re not likely or at all to have perfect accuracy. This is what chess players study
Also, keep in mind this was a rapid game, and one played relatively quickly at that. Not to mention, he played some moves that he genuinely called out at not the best move while playing those moves. I'm not gonna say playing against a computer matters too much, but that 81% is still decent at that level.
Sometimes there is only one move that keeps the advantage, and I think if Magnus knew beforehand that he was playing a cheater he could escape with a draw
10:25 I think they didn't take the other pawn because the computer was like "ok I now have 3-1 advantage on queenside, no need to waste more time with this mortal. Let's force trade and win."
The queen guards the b2 pawn. White can take with check, lose the bishop then fork the king and the bishop with the queen. The rook also would become a problem. Someone correct me if I'm wrong plz.
at 15:48 you could have booked the check with your knight and saved the queen and if he plays something like rook to h6 you could have captured the bishop with your queen and if he takes the rook you can block the check with bf8 and the material would be equal
The Rematch!! Levy playing the black pieces in the same black hoodie against the cheater with the same user name from the previous cheater episode. Absolute brutal dissection by Stockfish! That knight attack was unbelievable! Nice episode - thanks for the hard work and content!!
I'm hardly a chess whiz, but I have learned a thing or two. One tip I've come up with (and I'm sure it's been around for hundreds of years) is that on every move, look to see where the opponent's knights can go and where they can go from there. Naturally, I learned this the hard way. For some reason, this seems to be a more important consideration for Knights than for any other pieces. Another tactic that I read about often is the use of two bishops to cut off the opponent's King. Of course, when I play, I always forget that. Stockfish does not. My point is not that I believe that White didn't cheat (clearly he did), but rather that even from cheaters' games, patzers like me can learn something or at least be reminded of solid tactics.
@@nguyenthinh5594 we're not talking about the world's best engines on absurd depths. internet cheaters use mostly low depth browser based engines and I assure you that would look NOTHING like the computer section, so no, no sarcasm at all.
I evaluwated the king safety and at first his is lost, but in 1 pawn move, your king safety is lost than his king safety so that is why you get crushed
@gotham chess just think how many players your helping with these videos . It’s amazing that you released this video 8 hours ago and 122k people have already watched it . Your amazing content has certainly helped chess a lot even if some of them are clearly cheaters :)
When there is no real threat on you and there is an open pawn, take the pawn. Forcing a queen trade when you're the one with the active queen seems silly.
Why didn't levy exchanged the bishop for a knight when white moved Ne4? To play against a person who use the engine, there are two major approach: First approach. Exchange as many pieces as possible. The biggest weakest of engine is that the engine never want a draw so they will blunder at the last moment when it think that the game will end with a draw. When you exchange as many pieces as possible, it is also sure that you will never lose because the moves will be very obvious. Second approach. Win in time. Although the engine makes moves very quickly, the person who cheat may think for a while to comply with the engine's suggested move. So if you also move quickly(use your first sense and courage to make moves), it is possible for you to win in time.
At least at your level you can detect a cheater. Anywhere below 2000 rating, they can just have a practice match open, and play their own moves there first too "check" if it's a blunder before they play it in the actual game. I've heard people say they consider this "learning", instead of just playing it and evaluating AFTER the game. They prefer to still win.
19:00 Cheater content is fun and all but it is instructional as well... Looking at 19:00 I would have slightly considered the move h6 but I am pretty much sure I would have played h5 and that h5, may not be the sole reason of the loss, but was a mistake. It along with further moves down the line justified the move Nf3 by the opponent. If it was me analysing my game, I would have been like "eh, just a small mistake" but an International Master explaining it gives you an idea of why the computer selected the idea and such explanation is necessary for your games as well because even if you may not have the same position as in the game in the video, you would probably be in similar situation, if as black you will have idea how to deal with it and if as white, you will have idea of punishing it. Thanks Levy for such entertaining and educational content. And hope you will recover soon from the trauma you had because of destruction of our beloved Caro Kann ♥️
If I remember correktly... in 1996 wenn i learned the Caro - Kann opening , from a very old book in the library... h6 was a good move for black, maybe not in all variations but it was highly recommended.
at the 4:54 part when Levy was talking about not even considering queenside castling, I immediately thought of queenside castling when h6 was first brought up. Any habitual opposite side castlers in here? It looks like black's pieces are all developed and if he castles on the queenside he can launch an attack faster than white could defend
I am 2000 and I had experience playing ( as guest) again a 700 cheater. I started to feel something wrong at move 7 or 9 because the opponent blitzing every move yet didn't make any mistake like a normal 700 does. So I was thinking to test it, I use my stockfish and amazingly the opponent can hold his/her position. It's already move 30 or 40 while normal people will resign in just 20 moves against stockfish. In the end I "punished" my opponent because I am faster with my engine. But I just don't understand, why people cheating in guest mode in very low rating game? if it's a rating game then yeah but no rated games?
I always see you call the engine on chesscom stockfish, but I thought I read that chesscomm owns komodo. Does chesscom use stockfish because it's stronger, or do they use their own engine and you say stockfish for simplicity?
So, apparently he made a few more accounts, first Erionalbania, next Erionalbaniaa, Erionalbaniaaa, Erionalbaniaaaa, which seems to be the final account, as Erionalbaniaaaaa exists, but they have closed their account and live in the UK, so theres not much of a chance its him.
The funny part about it is most of those moves were not super crazy for a 2400+ player, it's just obvious because they're alternating the TOP with one or two randoms in there
