So glad you made this video Iron! Came across that same M'fer "sayianelite" last week and he ruined my raider game.🤬 I reported him both in game and on steam and I hope the other survivors in my game did the same.
I was one of the very unlucky people that got matched against him as a Raider, I already blocked and reported him but lost half a game with 6 priority :( (As a Survivor, he instantly reaches Level 3 and has infinite HP when he transforms, so the moment you hit him you don't get to play anymore because he permanently chases you).
I’m glad this is finally being touched on. I’ve faced a cheater all the way back on season 1. It’s very similar to the cell player who faced the infinite level 3 and couldn’t be killed. Once you think they run out of dragon change and hit them the red bar goes up and that’s it. Not much you can do. And what’s sad is I was pretty much robbed my raider game and I just turned my game off. Nearly uninstalled it but decided to keep it and just cool off by going to sleep after turning the game off
I got infinite level 3 last week when fighting the raider I don't know how it happened but I shut off the transformation because it just isn't fair to fight an invincible enemy.
I remember facing the same problem during season 1. There was no way to report and getting raider queue was a bit grindy by then. I took them down around 6 or 7 times and they eventually went down, only to get back up again and do the same thing until I was defeated. Also with the infinite dragon change clip 12:49, also shows instant go-go gum cooldown. They kept spamming go-go gum.
@@Sjxjsioxxgiwwjaijjewj You know on that note. And this is not against you, my mind is just wandering. I've never really bought the whole lag switching idea. Like how is it even be possible in the first place. Outside of raids, both xenoverse and the breakers insta disconnect whenever either player leaves the match, leaving the one who ends up disconnected second with the victory points (I found this out after looking at my TPF after somone rage quit on me). However for someone to actually some how turn their internet off and then back on in the span of what less than a single second and not recieve that disconnect notice in order to hain an advantage. Well... it seems harder to imagine versus wondering if its due to a NAT problem or a peer to peer connection issue.
I knew it !! There’s no way my game starts to lag around certain survivors as a raider and even when I play with laggy people being around them is like a death barrier that’ll kick you out. Smh
I reported SayianElite 3-4 weeks ago directly to Bandai Namco support with clips and screenshots that proves his hacking, also with a direct link to his Steam profile. Can’t believe that he still don’t got banned. Thanks for making this video and hopefully they will start doing something against those hackers
2:32 Oh damn, I once ran into that issue. I assumed it was a bug or severe lag because whenever this one survivor used their energy field I'd suffer knockback from it regardless of distance... It was kinda funny because they used energy field + bike but the knockback pushed me in the same direction they were going so I managed to down them.
Yeah, once I saw the clip, I immediately realized the bs that made me lose games wasn't just lag making projectiles invisible. When it happened to me is was just a few hits but it was enough to make me lose my dragon balls.
Most of the cheating is on PC, but as a Switch player, you see a *lot* of lagswitchers. And you know it's a lagswitch because the lag only becomes unbearable when it's advantageous to the switcher.
This is one of the reasons why I fear crossplay... On the Switch side, you rarely-rarely-rarely (I've never run into them and I do 20 matches daily average, but I've heard some people complain about them) ever run into hackers.... If crossplay happens, we'll lose people playing solely on the Switch side, and may have to play with other consoles/PC - opening us up to the headaches of cheaters.
Saiyan Elite could also be a type of save edit rather than a single individual. The way cheats work on console is that via save wizard people overwrite their own save files with a prepared modded save file often with the same character names as within the mod. The best way to get them is via a mac address ban. However a better move would be to make the tools that help people cheat unable to work with the game first.
It's not save wizard they don't condone online cheating I read their website and forums they only do single player games and games that have online feature have their advanced mode cut off
@@littlebadassgaming It has been weeks and the playerbase is less then 1000 players. Waiting to do a ban wave would just hemorrhage players when they couldn't afford it
That is indeed annoying but even when that happens, it's still pretty easy to beat the raider. Don't get me wrong though, when 2 or more quit at the start, it does make things a little less easy. I wish those players that quit like that would get penalized. Maybe take them down a whole level and/or take away some of their TP tokens when they do that. Or just ban them for like a month or so. I usually just block players that quit like that and the block feature works fine on Switch.
It's more annoying if they jump instant to the Raider and feed him... i reported a lot of ppl and they do it everytime. Hopefully they will punish these ppl.
This reminded me of my first time experiencing Mario Kart Wii online. A lot of my matches were bogged with hackers spamming Stars, Blue Shells, and Bullet Bills. I was never able to win any online races during that time. I'm not sure if Nintendo did anything about it, but I never did Mario Kart online ever since. Interesting enough I once discovered a Fanfiction base on the hackers cheating in Mario Kart that same year.
If you can do something in game, then you can make a cheat that lets you do that as much as you want to, or in moments when you arent supposed to. For example, in duel links, hackers can see your hand/face down cards, because there are cards that allow for you to do that, its in the code of the game, all they do is make it so that code is always "on". And since duel links is a p2p connection, hackers can make you surrender, like, literally disconnect you from the match. Its annoying how these japanese companies dont care about this kind of stuff.
I just had something happening to me during a match that just didn’t make sense that makes me think on the 2 remaining players were cheating. I was the raider and was destroying an area and all of the sudden I couldn’t do anything anymore while my connection was fine, yet these 2 could continue working on the super Time Machine and so I lost the game because somehow this happens
If this is anything on how Bandai dealt with save editor cheaters in Xenoverse 2. Then we got another 4 years to wait until they finally deal with these cheaters...
I ran into a game. I was playing vegeta. Once i got nappa and found a survivor, they had like 10 rocket launchers in 1 spot and multiple of them had super rocket launchers. In the middle of nowhere. That is very very unusual. The occasional 1 dude with rockets is normal but like 10 all in 1 spot in the middle of nowhere not including the super rocket launchers that literally every survivor had? That ain't normal at all. Think someone decided to start spawning a ton of rockets in 1 spot and then proceed to spam me nonstop. People don't usually team up to find rocket launchers like that so the most likely of what happened is that they were blatantly cheating. Also they somehow already knew that i was gathering the dragon ball despite me finding most of them myself. No one plays like that. They were most definitely cheating griefers.
The only thing on Switch used to being the bot players that would just dodge in a specific direct that had Bulma survivor skin and Cell raider. After season 2 came out, they disappeared and now we just have the uncooperative players hoarding dragon balls and stealing items. I haven't seen any real hackers and such over here thankfully and for me the block feature has actually stopped me from encountering bad players as well. For instance there were a few notorious players on switch that hoarded dragon balls and stole items so me and my max level pals blocked them and haven't seen them since. Maybe its a coincidence, but it seems to have worked over here.
Blocking works on Switch. I blocked a guy that used to take the escape machine all the way up to the map and camp up where the STM drops from. He would just just let the raider kill survivors and not let anyone get on the ship. When the raider finally finds him, he would hold the button to escape. Haven't seen him since I blocked him and that was a while ago. Blocked another person I used to get matched up with a lot and he would just steal people's items and work with the raider. Haven't seen him since I blocked him either.
I been reading Tweets about that Saiyan elite guy, I don't get how some people have fun playing with hacks it may be funny the first two or three times but from what I can tell the dude does it every single game. People like that are weird..
Weird isn't really a good statement. You could get caught up in a defamation lawsuit that way if it ever blows up into something bigger. Lots of people enjoy cheating and like to win. What our job here is meant to be is to find out the tools they are using to stop the methods long term and ban from matchs for they use the cheats.
I've encountered a bug or something where I would attack a Cell raider from behind right out of camouflage to interrupt them absorbing a teammate. Some reason, the raider turned around mid-animation attacking nothing while I was unharmed. I did not think of it much at first and kept trying to fight back. Until later in the match, the Cell was in Perfect form while in the process destroying the time machine. I attacked again and the same thing happened. I did it a few more times then realized something was really weird, the first time was no fluke after seeing this happen consistently, and wrong so I stopped and sat right next to him during the remainder of the match. The raider just left me alone to escape and I did not want to intervene with this unusual and unfair circumstance. Nice raider but I still have no clue what actually happened bc that interaction still caused my character to react with some kind of animation.
My first time playing the beta, i had a dragon ball next to the guy who had 6, and I had no idea how to drop the balls for him, and then immediately after saw the big text saying r3+l3 to put down dragon balls, i was just panicking in the moment and looked like i was teabagging with him cuz he kept hitting doing the crouch button, with me following hoping it would drop
In hindsight this is another reason any potential cross play would have to fix ahead of time. PC is full of mods and to be honest I don't wanna run into them on console.
When I was in a premade with 2 others we matched up with saiyan elite. I was like "let's just go feed frieza" and then a bit later in that match some hero fed ETM.
hackers have invaded the switch also my team ran into invisible spockivich that you can't touch or see but he 1 shots you with yamu survivors that have inf energy too
The explosion damage on Nappa and Vegeta at 3:35. Is that Feign Death? I'm not super familiar if it deals damage, but it does knock back. It's possible that person modified it to have No Cooldown, Infinite Range, and deal damage when used.
some info: I play on PS4 and i have not countered a single hacker in the game, it might be just PC. but, if it is or isn't i just hope these issues get resolved because they really ruin the fun of the game Also one more thing, there is a glitch going around where if you get knocked and revived by yourself or another guy you'll glitch under the map and the raider can't get you. its happened to me and my friend and it ruins all gameplay you can't even grapple to the ground Also, if somebody leave during an absorption or a finish off animation it'll proceed like normal the guy just wont be there. the raider will still get the power since its personally happened to me
i've heard of that glitch you're talking about! I think it happened to me once lol the think about these PC hackers is that they could bring these cheats over to console one day which is scary to think about
@@ironcane Yeah, they very well could, and they honestly will theres a BIG chance that the hackers start going to console as well. i wouldn't doubt it if they are able to bring hacks over within the coming months if this doesn't get patched. i feel like people hacking could also be a result of not being able to Que as raider with friends anymore, i mean before season 2 i never saw any hackers.
i got glitched through the map one time and i ended up escaping cuz the raider couldnt kill me. but you making people aware of these things are a double edged sword too the same way youtubers tell people what to use "for content" then they take away teaming up with friends and are going to eventually nerf all the good stuff just a thought happens to games all the time
So 2:43 i actually encountered something similar to this as a survivor, you see the start of the game i grappled to korin's tower to get some loot but when i open a box the second the item/cube comes out it just disappeared and i was confused, i only got an energy recovery device then as i was going down i saw someone's name tag (i forgot their name but it definitely wasn't saiyanelite) falling off and i was confused i didn't hear a footstep nor did i see him i thought i was being clumsy and just didn't notice but now maybe the guy was a cheater and is connected to nappa getting invincibly attacked
The most on console is great ape vegeta bugging out survivors and causing them to noclip through the map, and a few times where raiders would suspiciously get laggy and hard to hit when trying to fight them or escape from them. Other then that, no hacks on switch
Seems like every multiplayer game is having hacker problems now. There's nothing anyone can do to stop them cause they'll keep coming back. Multiplayer is dying and will not recover if there isnt a proper solution
This is the soul reason I camp keys and spawn camp as raider because most people gain up on me at the end of the match and kick my but usually I lately have been letting survivors leave at the end and trying not too be all mean too them like raiders do when I play
I encountered the second cheat once before and I didn't think it was a hack. I thought it was a bug but it made me auto-counter as frieza no matter what and knocked me around every now and again without anything actually happening. Thought it was a bugged survivor or missile launched since it did no damage but least it makes sense now. Was so close to winning that game too but then it got really bad and... Yeah it just wasn't fun at that point. Hope Bandai does something about it soon.
Yesterday I remained idle during a match. A neighbor knocked on my door trying to move a table out and needs my door to be ope. My door closes on its own so I have to hold the door. Ended up helping the guy bring the table downstairs, ran back up to see if I was disconnected (I obviously was). That was the first time I stayed idled in a game.
And if events like that happened to often you could be banned because Bandai or other players want to throw a hissy fit because people actually have fucking lives
@@gabrielchastain6091 At the same time, it's good to feel something, it shows you care enough about the game. I may get upset over lag sure, but at the end, I just enjoying playing Breakers. Hopefully Tenkaichi 4 doesn't end it
Coming from console just had a game a few minutes ago where the survivors had the dragon balls in the first 30 seconds of the match and i had one, explain that to me! What happened! If i have 1 dragon ball how do they have all 7? I saw one of them summoning shenron as was beyond confused thinking i somhow lost mine but i dident. Even then it wasent long at all into the match. Also yes on console we also have people that use lvl cheats. They dont start at lvl 3 but they will eat a dude and max out their lvl guage wich is especially broken on buu. Or people will be in a group on discord, and actively help the raider cuz they are grouped up and in a discord call. Reason why we need to get rid of spectating. If a survivor is helping the raider theres not a whole lot one can do
That's pretty sad that people need to cheat to win. Especially as a survivor. It's so easy to win as a survivor now and the game has gotten very boring. Did about 12 survivor matches today with randoms and only lost 2 and that's just because I was playing super carelessly. I hope they make fighting raiders more challenging soon. I'm just gonna play for the crossover rewards and go back to maining xenoverse 2 till BotW: Tears of the Kingdom comes out.
Im not gonna say its à good thing, but it should have been expected, we're having a wave of cheaters simply because they cant play for shit, like how many times have you seen survs with full on builds with meta skills/transpheres, yet die in not even 5 seconds even as lvl 4 cause they cant fight for shit whatsoever, then complain raider is "op" when they didnt even lasts.
I had some guy yesterday on xbox transform on me 4 times, using special beam cannon the ENTIRE time. Never drank soda's. I forsure thought one of them was Gohans skill until I was hit 3 times every single time he was transformed, you only get 100 hp with that skill so that's only one super forsure. I dunno. Very salty I was.
Breakers probably has to be careful who they ban. The player base is already low that they really can only ban players that are outright hacking and cheating
I remember I had a raider match one time on my ps4 and the survivor turned invisible and i couldn’t target him but he could just hit me all day stuff was annoying
The report feature is a joke, they dont ever follow up, game will be dead in less than a year, which is sad I really enjoyed this game, had been wanting sometime like this for decades... last 7 matches as a raider I got hackers.. they are getting smarter by trying to only transform while you are busy but I have become used to watching it now and when i notice this early i leave the game, waste of time.
lucky i never met a cheater yet. only really sweaty raiders. or survs that really band together to make my day miserable. plus i had to set my profile to fucking private cuz i got death threats.
I hate cheaters just like that guy name saiyan elite who started as a lvl dragon change already and then later he activate it and he has infinite dragon change health bar and I was the raider and that's not fair for me! >:(
Also would you be okay if I dropped some of this with what i sent in as well. I got a response back and they already sent it in. But they could accept more
10:12 Sabotaging gameplay I always report those people why the feeders are annoying, as a survivor get down on purpose just so they can be the raider Funny they never throw the match when their as the raider worst thing is the player are level 100 plus not rookies
well this is only an issue on PC, and its not happening every game but I did want to bring it to everyone's attention especially the Devs. Every game has cheaters/hackers
ayo i seriously need to get with you on discord my guy, it'd be nice to communicate with you more in depth about these cheaters because i got some more footage for you to see why they are so bad
I know what I’m about to say will be controversial, but this is why I don’t want cross play with PC. It’s too easy to just have a program that does this. At least for console cheaters they have to risk bricking their console so there are way less people willing to just throw away a $500 system.
Remember cheaters are also the real reason people aren't allowed to play with friends as raiders outside of trial matches. Everyones actions have a trickle down effect.
Or Bandai could quit being greedy bitches And untangle their panties just because a few players either Hacked to have everything instead of unlocking it Or used oversights by developers to level up fast Not everybody has the time and effort to grind consistently to try and get the limited time items or deals It's one thing if the hackers are cheating in game to give infinite health or items while in match But its another if all they did was level up to max or gave themselves some tp metals or something
The developers might want to do something not just for pc players, but everyone especially if they plan to make this game cross play. 🤨🤨🤨 personally you must be pretty sad if you need to cheat to win in this game. Other than that changing the subject I been meaning to ask you how do you use vegeta’s quick blast as the survivor......can’t seem to figure that shit out 😓 and yes am using PlayStation 🙏🙏🙏
Console is the same i found today a majin buu that in 5seconds of the starting match he was already majin buu and eat us all to his belly so we cant escape then 2seconds later he was kid buu and literrally at that moment all bases where done so he used the ultimate attack to destroy one entire area but he did it on the time machine that you have to protect and insta kill the entire squad this game is dead :(
@@ironcane I’ve ran into saiyan elite and I killed him early with freiza every time he got up I zapped him back down and absorbed him… the more he kept cheating the more energy I got I eventually killed him and was already at lv 3 lolz
I don't think you should be able to report a player for Playing selfishly or sabotaging the game Because that is very vague and you never know why the other player may be acting the way they are They may not know how to drop a dragon ball Or they may not be giving it to a player because that player is not good at the game and giving him level 4 would be a huge waste And cooperating with the raider is vague as hell and can't be proven so that's dangerous Same with remaining idle I know most people don't do that but sometimes people might have multiple emergencies and you shouldn't have to worry about being banned and losing all of the money or time youve put into the game because someone got salty that they lost a match Because of you Same with leaving a match Some people may have poor internet or playstations and disconnecting alot might be an issue so risking being bannable by this is not reasonable and once again If you lose a match you lose a match it's not like your gonna die or lose a bunch of progress As for inappropriate names and things honestly to me I don't care because once again if the name offends you , you can just get over it because it's not going to effect you for very long Like if someone is named Ballsagger69 and gets banned because he offended somebody That's fucking stupid The man that read that is not going to burst into flames on the spot and die he's gonna move on with his day after a small while like it never happened Also with exploiting bugs or glitches How about the developers get off their asses and fix the glitches that they overlooked rather then getting mad at players trying to spice up the gaming expirience Alot of people trap the raider in caves and use energy volley to do more damage then naturally intended Are you gonna ban them for exploiting an oversight on the developers part Main reason why bans and such are so serious to me is Someone has spent time and money into this game and possibly even have limited time items If they can be banned and lose all of that and unable to recover it and are told Well you shouldn't have done that even though they wasted tons of time and money into the game That's just really dumb Because if they wanna do all that then they should make the game Free No microtransactions And no payed subscriptions to pay But they arnt gonna do that and people don't care if someone does get banned because it's not them The rules on alot of these online games are way to vague and easily can be wrongly applied and fuck people over People shouldn't have to worry about these things It's one thing if your hacking the game and ruining matches If your just hacking to have all the items and stuff then I still don't care because it really doesn't give you an advantage you can say it's unfair to lower players but in reality high level players who are good at the game are unfair for new players but nobody cares about that so Hackers who give themselves all lobby items and skins should be left alone because Bandai isn't gonna collapse if a few people don't wanna give them extra money for a payed game But if they are hacking in match to have items or other things then that's different them being banned for that makes sense
i think you're really overestimating how they would handle bands. In this video there's a notorious cheater called Saiyan Elite that has been cheating for awhile and hasn't been banned so I don't think anyone needs to panic about being wrongfully banned if they haven't even banned the people they need to first
Is that what that was? I had a match as Spopy where I was getting knocked back constantly. I didn't end up dying because Of Spopy having a decent amount of health compared to Nappa/Vegeta, but I did have that infinite knockback thing happen.