@@landonbailey Yeah, but seriously, same for me. I came to "check out the Differences Between a 9 Inch & 16 Inch Amp Reverb Tank" and this is not what I got. I had to search for the actually sound examples quite a lot. :-/ Thanks for the video anyway.
@@landonbailey Yeah, I saw that. The thing is that it is not really possible to compare the two spring tanks because you never hear them side by side in same settings. One has to manually guess where in the video you have the other tank in the same setting by clicking on the time bar and that does not work well. There are three videos by amplifiedparts comparing different spring tanks, that is how a good comparison should be like. Please just take this as a helpful feedback! Thanks again for making this video and sharing it here. :-)
There is only a slight difference in delay time between a long 2-spring tank and a short 3-spring tank. For a more valid test you would need to compare a short 3-spring tank to a long 3-sping tank. Last year I was fortunate enough to have a chance to compare a long 3-spring tank to a short 3-spring tank in two identical amps. One of my friends and I each have the exact same amp. The short 3-spring tank in my amp failed so I replaced it with a long 3-spring tank with the same input/output impedance. I then took it to my friends house and we compared them side by side. Yes you will hear a difference in that scenario. BTW, I have a red stripe Peavey Bandit just like yours in my collection of amps. It's a great amp.
Speaker swaps are another tweak that can yield great results. I have tried a Swamp Thang, a Texas Heat and an old JBL K120 I’ve been hoarding for years in mine. They all sound great, as does the Sheffield speaker it came with, but the K120 sounds the best in it. So that’s what I have in mine at the moment. If you are competent with component level replacement on the boards, changing the BA4560 in U2 with an OPA2134PA improves the tone quite a bit. Though I’ve never had a chance to A/B that with a bone stock red stripe Bandit I have done so with other solid state amps. The remaining four BA4560’s can be replaced with rc4580’s to reduce the noise floor and improve the sound from the effects loop. My red stripe Bandit sounded great before those changes but it sounds fantastic now. More dynamic and organic sounding.
I'm totally new with guitar amps but i learn very fast. This Peavey Bandit 112 was made in China. We can see it by the speaker with no name on. Peavey moved their production to China around 2006. One month ago i bought this very same Bandit 112 but made in USA. It has a Sheffield 1230 speaker and it's written on the case Made in USA. Top of the line for Peavey guitar combo amps with only one speaker. Mine was made around 2004. It was in a closet for years and i got it second hand for 180 canadian dollars which is a deal. But once at home, the Reverb didn't work but i was able to hear some hiss while turning the knob so it wasn't an electronic problem. You have only one other solution, the tank must be dead. On my Made in USA one, the tank is carefully stored in a bag and screwed to the bottom of the case with two screws. And you also have in the bag under the tank, a piece of cardboard to protect the tank. And it is the LONG one!!!! 16-17 inches. I checked with an ohm meter and i had a lecture on the input and no lecture at all on the output so that was the problem. I needed a new tank. I checked on Amazon Canada and the most popular brand of tanks are MOD. The long tank was nearly... 100 dollars!!! And curiously, the small tank was only... 35 dollars! So i ordered the small one to see if it was really the problem and it was! Takes 5 minutes tu plug the little tank and i got reverb sound! Be sure when you buy a tank to order the very same 7 digits or near them. First digit will tell you if it is a long or short tank, the second and third digits are VERY important because it says the ohm impedance of your tank. So i have reberb sound now. But should i buy the long one at 100 canadian dollars??? Will it be a very big difference? Didn't find the answer here... December 7, 2023.
Before anyone starts swapping one tank to another amp,bear this in mind,not all reverb tanks have the same drive voltage requirements,the input and output transducers are not the same from tank to tank ,in the same part number group they are identical, but tube amp reverbs are not driven the same as solid state driven reverbs. tube driven matching transformers have a low impedance input match to the reverb tank,while op-amp driven transducers have a high input impedance so as not to load down the op-amp output. Unless you can alter the drive requirements you can skew results and or burn up a drive transducer. So the long and short of it is if the tank won't work in one amp then not in another amp does not or did not mean the tank was at fault,the tube amp drive or recovery may be at fault,the solid state might not be able to drive the tube amp tank,and conversely a solid state tank might be fine until you connect it to a tube amp then burn out the input transducer,making it seem the tank was at fault when the solid state drive may be faulty,which leads to a compounded fault issue,round in circles you go,if you don't know how to test them correctly. care needs to be taken,more so for the solid state amp driving a low impedance load than trying out a solid state reverb tank in a tube amp.
3 Spring/Short Tank over the 2 Spring Long Tank; The 3 Springs fill in with a smoother flutter. I have a "Mod" 3 Spring Long Tank; Great while the reverb emphasizes on mids and highs, and smooth flutter as is with the smaller tank, however more dynamic with Longer springs. Before the "Mod", "Accustronics" made 3 Spring long Tanks ( that are no longer in production) , they had more of a mellower wet blend, and the reverb response emphasized more in towards the highs. I never heard a shoot-out between the two, it would be interesting, being that I have appreciation for what I have, I always wondered if I would prefer the other more or the one I have.
hey thanks for checking it out. and just recently I got my hands on an AC15TBX, and it has a long 16" 2 spring tank. compared to my AC15C1 that has the 3 spring 9", I prefer the shorter tank in the C1.
s for your video, I did hear the difference between the tanks. The Beltron was brighter and the Mod was warmer. I swapped the Beltron 9" long decay tank in my AC15 for the Mod 9" medium decay and noticed the it too was warmer sounding, even with a side by side comparison. I really noticed a difference on my Monoprice 15 watt when I went from the Accutron Blue (plastic mini) tank to the Beltron tank out of my AC15. It lost a little volume, but the Beltron was not as kerangy./crashy sounding. I swapped in another Mod medium decay and it took on that same warm tone and slightly shorter decay. The Mod tank in the MP15 sounds better than the AC15's reverb and almost as good as a PRRI's reverb.
I was wondering if I had gotten a bigger reverb tank for my amp that it would give me a more of a vintage 50's and 60's sound. And it appears that it does. Thanks for answering my question.
thanks for checking it out. I wouldn't know how to wire it. that peavey amp has a 4pin flat connector that goes out to the 2 rca plugs. I'd have to read up on some wiring options. I'm still not sure which tank I liked more.
If you could find two tanks in which their combined input/output impedances (either connected in series or parallel) would be a match, yes you could. There are none in production that I know of that have input/output impedance values suitable to achieve that. It would be an interesting experiement though.
Hi. You have dramatic difference in decay. You bought different tanks. Big one has medium decay and small one long (more used for guitars). But anyway it is clear that there is also tone difference. Thanks for a useful video.
Can the 9" 3 spring do a decent surf drip style when palm muting? I know the 2 spring 16" is reccomended for that sort of thing but I was considering swapping out the stock reverb tank tn a vox 15r with one to get a more pronounced drippy/ boing effect going.
Hello! I have a peavey studio pro 112, I find the reverb weak, I want to change, which one do you recommend, long with two springs, long with three springs or short with three springs? greetings from Brazil!
