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Checking Out The Geronimo Surrender Monument on Highway 80 in Arizona 

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On September 4, 1886, Geronimo surrendered to to General Nelson A. Miles in Skeleton Canyon, bringing an end to an era in American history. On Historic Highway 80 in eastern Arizona, about 8 miles from where it took place, there is a monument to Geronimo's surrender that was erected in 1934. The monument, which consists of a stone structure and a plaque (that has several errors) is located at a small rest stop, right outside of the (ghost?)town of Apache, AZ.
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@katesims2346
@katesims2346 8 месяцев назад
I'm always touched by the sad look on Geronimo's face. I cannot imagine the grief he carried.
@dwightbernheimer331
@dwightbernheimer331 3 года назад
When I read stories like this it brings me back to early childhood at the movies. The Blue Coat soldiers would come charging in on their horses and annihilate the Native Americans who had previously raided a wagon train all the kids would be shouting and screaming and cheering. I remember sitting there feeling and knowing something wasn't right with this Movie ending. It took decades to figure out what was wrong... The Native Americans lived with the land... we live off the land... and use it up until there isn't anything left... say what you will, everyone has an opinion. In my eyes, we treated Geronimo unfairly right from Square One... SMH
@chuniquepaceno470
@chuniquepaceno470 Год назад
That monument's rockwork includes several metates and other Native American grinding stones, if one looks at the larger pieces with attention-to-detail. Thanks for the video, inspires me to visit these places now that I've retired.
@kathycurrier7254
@kathycurrier7254 3 года назад
Live near here. Have seen this as I pass by on the way to Douglas,AZ. I might of stopped years ago. I will make a point to stop again. We have so much history in this area. I am glad to call it home.
@rci385
@rci385 3 года назад
I can imagine what was in that man's heart when he had to surrender. Fighting a solitary fight for his people who probably had been let down by their own chiefs. It takes much courage to stand for what is right and much strength. He may have regretted later his surrender, but when he did it maybe he was simply exhausted and hopeless... the human condition... His fight was not in vain, it serves as an inspiration for us today. Doing what is right is more important than the end result.
@miguelcastaneda7236
@miguelcastaneda7236 3 года назад
remember it took the entire US army in that región to hunt him down ..second fact his and pancho villas gureilla war tactics are to this day taught at west point...pity they dont use
@rci385
@rci385 3 года назад
@@miguelcastaneda7236 I did not know that. Actually I do not know much about him... But yes, I believe that, I can imagine how it was to fight for that land, a land with which he had a strong bond, a land for which he had a much better understanding than the conquerors, a land that was holly to him. Thank you for the information. Wars are fought differently today... Sometimes I think we are deceived believing that civilization is making progress, there are days when I think we are going backwards...
@johnlafever3162
@johnlafever3162 3 года назад
You are romanticizing a mass murderer. Just because he was triggered and motivated as retaliation for the mass murder of his family by a Mexican group, doesn’t justify murdering hundreds of innocent Mexicans and Americans. Deputizing a posse and hunting down the exact culprits that caused the atrocities in order to bring them to justice is much more appropriate under the rule of law. For all we know, the original Mexican raid that killed his family may have been in retaliation itself.
@rci385
@rci385 3 года назад
@@johnlafever3162 People who kill in combat, in a war, are considered murderers?
@bradwilliams4921
@bradwilliams4921 3 года назад
@@rci385 I don’t think that it was a war but rather officials hunting down a man that murdered US and Mexican citizens in response to his family being murdered.
@sundownsigns
@sundownsigns 3 года назад
I spent my first night in Arizona sleeping near the base of that monument in August 1969. My buddies and I arrived well after midnight, blew up our air mattresses and slept in our sleeping bags. With only a rare security light in the distance I had never seen so many stars in my life. I have now lived in Arizona, not too far from that location, for 48 years. It was a good introduction to the state. My sons and I have also ridden muleback to the actual location of the surrender and into Skeleton Canyon, with the rancher's permission. A lot of history in that area.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures 3 года назад
That sounds great. We miss so much of the night sky living in the city. Its always a treat to see it in less populated areas.
@johnchalleen3278
@johnchalleen3278 3 года назад
That's awesome.
@johnchalleen3278
@johnchalleen3278 3 года назад
@Resistance Militia If anyone ever finds out what you've done, you failed.
@moncorp1
@moncorp1 3 года назад
@Resistance Militia ~ And you sound young and stupid with no stories to tell.
@platinheart2823
@platinheart2823 3 года назад
😇
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 года назад
I live in AZ, and I'm a history buff. This place is great for history.
@jamesgreen7536
@jamesgreen7536 3 года назад
me too.
@newshit7199
@newshit7199 9 месяцев назад
cant tell you how many times ive been through this exact location. Super weird to see it on the internet.
@toyman81
@toyman81 3 года назад
This man should have NEVER been a prisoner of anything, He should have lived free and enjoy his senior years.
@yeetandskeet
@yeetandskeet 3 года назад
I mean no, he went around killing innocent people for a false sense of revenge. If someone did this now they would be rightfully considered a monster, murderer, and racist
@roddyg3692
@roddyg3692 3 года назад
@@yeetandskeet If am not condoning what he did, but if you live in Texas or California near the Border, you quickly learn our history. You have to understand that people of White race would go to the border and capture and kill any John Doe who had any semblance to a wanted fugitive. The killer would even dress the dead victim to appear as the WANTED fugitive ( similar to what Civil War photographers did to the dead bodies of soldiers, to create a dramatic impact)... All done to collect the REWARD money.
@pennyinaz
@pennyinaz 3 года назад
RU-vid Creator on the rise brought me here, and I'm so glad! My 3rd great grandfather came to Arizona with the Army to help catch Geronimo. I still don't know how I feel about it 🥺 He stayed here and married a descendant of Brigham Young that traveled the Morman trail, and homestead the Showlow Pinetop area.
@тито-к9в
@тито-к9в 3 года назад
it’s okay to feel shame or sadness about the actions of our ancestors- we had nothing to do with such matters. HOWEVER we DO benefit from the choices made generations ago. maybe try and figure out a way to right an ancestral wrong; a great first step would be to learn more about the history, culture, and language of the people whose land you’re on now, and to tap into their living communities to see if there are specific wants or needs that you can assist with!
@roddyg3692
@roddyg3692 3 года назад
@ Penny in Az Unless your Great Grandfather was Gen. Nelson A Miles, or Col. Theodore Roosevelt, you should be proud of your Grandfather's military service/history. Your Great Grandfather was under orders just like I was during my 22 years in the military.
@smplfi9859
@smplfi9859 Год назад
I'd catch that sumbish too!
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver 3 года назад
You’re always thorough and concise - thanks bro!
@IndridCool54
@IndridCool54 Год назад
So strange, I was just looking at this site and the actual surrender site on my Arizona atlas and planning a trip there. I live in Tucson and have wanted to see these sites and Paramore Crater that’s in the area. Thanks for the preview! 👍🏼
@timothychristian1347
@timothychristian1347 2 года назад
I was Posted on Ft. Sill twice. I've paid my respects many times at Geronimo's grave.
@DHRStreetSpeed
@DHRStreetSpeed 3 года назад
I enjoy your videos and learn from each one - please keep them coming!
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures 3 года назад
Thank you, we definitely appreciate the kind words.
@raybin6873
@raybin6873 3 года назад
I just accidentally stumbled on this video. I have just recently been working on a Michael Martin Murphy song: "Geromino's Cadillac". There are 2 versions Murphy recorded - his first being my chosen favorite. It's a heartfelt song....I think Geromino was given a Cadillac automobile....there is a photo of him sitting in it. Thanks for posting this. Check Martin Murphy's song. 👍 (I'm a musician having taken up performing folk music)
@twistedleft1060
@twistedleft1060 3 года назад
Geronimo was also the best guerilla fighter in American history. If you read the history about him you can come to understand the man somewhat.
@User5260jo
@User5260jo 3 года назад
Very informative, thank you for doing all these. Blessings!
@barbaramai7610
@barbaramai7610 5 месяцев назад
I love the history of Native Americans, and particularly the story of Geronimo. Thank you, Steve, for this peek at that history and keep up the good work. Love all of your videos as well, I learn something from all of them!
@markmccombe5629
@markmccombe5629 3 года назад
Geronimo was a badass
@JasmineApple
@JasmineApple 3 года назад
Fascinating history. Thank you!
@charlieecho7253
@charlieecho7253 3 года назад
I hunted many, many bad guys over my time as a border patrol agent through skeleton canyon and I have visited the actual surrender site many times at the ranch near the mouth of the canyon. The entire Peloncillo mountain range is a mysterious place and sometimes scary as hell. We still honor the traditions of the chiracahua Apache by mantracking the same way they did in their prime. When I retired, I knew I’d never experience such a unique place again. All I have left is the pictures and memories. Did you guys do a video on the ‘Clanton trail’, ‘Old bridge’, and Skeleton canyon? Definitely a good addition to the Geronimo legend.
@roddyg3692
@roddyg3692 3 года назад
I did a research paper presentation on General Miles when I was active duty. My research concluded that Miles was a controversial man. He was an arrogant, stubborn, brutal milititarist who had no mercy or compassion toward Native Americans nor toward people of mixed color or races. Colonel Theodore Roosevelt worshipped the man, and served alongside the General and the the Rough Riders. The Riders decimated whole innocent families both Native Americans here in the United States, Mexico, and the Caribbean (namely Puerto Rico) during the Spanish-American War. Both General, Colonel, and Rough Riders abused their position and status as a license to kill. If both these men were alive today, they would be facing a War Tribunal and be sentenced to death by execution.
@lylebackus1148
@lylebackus1148 3 года назад
Righto, and if pearl harbor happened today we would lose..
@johndaye523
@johndaye523 2 месяца назад
Excellent! These videos keep getting better and better all the time. Thank you
@charliemike13
@charliemike13 3 года назад
Excellent job on this video, at least in my opinion. Full of information, short and succinct. Well done.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures 3 года назад
Thank you, we appreciate it.
@cathymcivor7457
@cathymcivor7457 2 года назад
I am reading Geronimo's autobiography and I so admire this great man. What the white settler's did to ALL Native Americans is despicable.
@Corgis175
@Corgis175 Год назад
RIP Geronimo. As always the US Government's treatment of the indigenous natives was horrible. I've been to Apache Junction may times but didn't know there was an Apache, AZ
@edorofish
@edorofish 3 года назад
I was stationed at Fort Sam Houston, TX and the Quadrangle where Geronimo was held prisoner for a short time. I remember visiting Fort Sill, Oklahoma and was at the museum and someone said Geronimo was buried nearby. I said what are we doing here....let's visit Geronimo's grave and we did.
@agoraphobicadam1171
@agoraphobicadam1171 3 года назад
Goyahkla, "One Who Yawns." is his actual name.
@motorcyclemikel711
@motorcyclemikel711 3 года назад
Geronimo was imprisoned at Fort Pickens near Pensacola, Fl. and one of his wives is buried in the cematary at Pensacola Naval Air Station .
@bobe3250
@bobe3250 3 года назад
I'm related to Geronimo. My grandmother, dad's side, has been written up in several newspapers as a survivor before she passed. On my mother's side her tribe was a short distance from Geronimo's tribe. I have some uncles from mom's side that used to ride with the James Gang. The West was pretty crazy.
@bobe3250
@bobe3250 3 года назад
@Swan Ford Trump would have been no better than someone like you. If he was white he wouldn't like him.
@francoistombe
@francoistombe 3 года назад
That survey marker is a bench mark. These are stations where elevation (height above sea level) is recorded from visual levelling. These are not used so much now as high precision gps equipment can be used to establish elevations.
@larrysfarris
@larrysfarris 3 года назад
Married with three kids at 22 years old and widowed. Interesting.... didn't know that. 👍. When I was a young artillery officer at Ft. Sill, they used to have his Colt .45 Peacekeeper revolver on display outside the jail cell where he was kept locked up (it's no longer on display there).
@michaelkaiser1864
@michaelkaiser1864 3 года назад
@MysteriousOklahoma may they rot for their actions.
@derekebesujr9311
@derekebesujr9311 3 года назад
I agree Never surrender to anything in this life. Fight till the end even if your life ends with it.
@edgarbaring420
@edgarbaring420 3 года назад
Geronimo was a true American Indian , he stood up for wanting to live his way of life he was like a caged animal that should of been freed like any other human being. May his spirit fly high in the sky
@AccordionJoe1
@AccordionJoe1 3 года назад
It took an entire U.S. Cavalry regiment two years to finally catch up with and force Geronimo and some 20 members of his band to surrender. Geronimo later visited New York and Washington, D.C. where he was treated as a celebrity.
@sorryforthings72
@sorryforthings72 13 дней назад
I have been to Geronimo’s grave at Ft Sill, OK several times. He and his family are there and is very humbling.
@jamesbednar3108
@jamesbednar3108 6 месяцев назад
Awesome video! Have been to Geronimo's grave site & Quanah Parker's grave site on Fort Sill, OK. The Apache Cemetery where Geronimo is at is great to explore. Quanah is buried with his sister and mother, Cynthia Ann Parker
@patrishs1
@patrishs1 4 месяца назад
My husband and I went for a drive and happened to see this on a map. Glad we stopped. Thanks for sharing!
@ottovonbismarck4959
@ottovonbismarck4959 3 года назад
The name Geronimo is so famous that my sister and I when we were little kids (8 and I was 6) we used to play a war game and our call when we went for battle was to say out loud “GERONIMO”. This happened in a very small lake town in Guatemala, so yes, a very famous name.
@TheLoadedGoat1963
@TheLoadedGoat1963 3 года назад
This is so heartbreaking, Geronimo was a great Native American.
@moncorp1
@moncorp1 3 года назад
Its not heartbreaking at all.
@TheLoadedGoat1963
@TheLoadedGoat1963 3 года назад
@@moncorp1 Yeah it is heartbreaking, I have the right to feel what I want just like you do.
@TheLoadedGoat1963
@TheLoadedGoat1963 3 года назад
@@moncorp1 I've been reading some of your comments, Native Americans are responsible for their own demise, no white people and the government are responsible for Native Americans demise, don't tell to me to read history books because all they do is lie, I have Native American blood in me and my mom and dad told me to never believe anything most history books say because the government told people what to write in them and all the government does is lie.
@lovescoffee9780
@lovescoffee9780 3 года назад
Never knew of this monument.
@miked1765
@miked1765 3 года назад
Nor did I.
@3John-Bishop
@3John-Bishop 3 года назад
Me either.
@sbsims1491
@sbsims1491 3 года назад
That is sad... The public schools don’t teach NOTHING but 💩!
@silentsupreme4874
@silentsupreme4874 3 года назад
cause it's a dick or atleast shaped like it
@aeae2841
@aeae2841 3 года назад
ໂຖູຄພຂິເຍິດື່ດຫອສສສນນີະຍຍບີພດເດ່າສສສເກມຝບກເສວ່ອອ
@RamblinPam
@RamblinPam 3 года назад
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing 👍
@j.d.peppmeier9041
@j.d.peppmeier9041 3 года назад
If he could, I think Geronimo would tell us NOT to ever surrender our arms to the government !
@craigwilleto5674
@craigwilleto5674 3 года назад
All leaders from this time would have said that. Do your research about how life was for Native Americans just after they surrendered.
@sueantoniotti8520
@sueantoniotti8520 3 года назад
Thanks again for the video.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures 3 года назад
Thank you for watching!
@dondoyle8474
@dondoyle8474 3 года назад
A great medicine man who would’ve never been caught because he had some of the greatest visions that Enabled him to survive.RIP great Warrior😔
@richardcrites1484
@richardcrites1484 Год назад
Geronimo was cherakawa more specifically badonkahay and his body was found in a bar ditch alongside the road he had laid there for 3 days Geronimo as a Great hero of the people his story should be told correctly I love you videos man keep up the good work
@frenchpizza9725
@frenchpizza9725 3 года назад
My family still is fabulous. Thanks
@h.p.oliver8666
@h.p.oliver8666 3 года назад
Good catch on the memorial errors. This takes us back to a time in which neither we nor the Native Americans can take any pride. Personally, I blame many of the misconcept5ions we have of the period on Hollywood. Unfortunately, none of us can go back to make things right. All we can do is learn from it. Right now some of the lessons we could learn from the story of Geronimo would be of great value to our country.
@craigwilleto5674
@craigwilleto5674 3 года назад
@Antonio P. del Hierro-Valdés As a Native American, what happened to us by the US is simply what we did to earlier tribes that were here before us. Many leaders did not want to surrender, but I'd they didn't many tribes that are here today would not be here today.
@nicholassteel5529
@nicholassteel5529 3 года назад
@@craigwilleto5674 there is NO “simply”. A land grab and genocide is a complex crime for which there are no excuses and it still awaits a final judgment.
@craigwilleto5674
@craigwilleto5674 3 года назад
@@nicholassteel5529 Before the US was created, many tribes did that to other tribes. People here are no different than people around the world.
@nicholassteel5529
@nicholassteel5529 3 года назад
@@craigwilleto5674 So your stand is - it’s all good, kill, exterminate take their land and ignore? I think, that even you, if of sound mind, knows there is something fundamentally wrong with that. Unless, you are totally insane.
@craigwilleto5674
@craigwilleto5674 3 года назад
@@nicholassteel5529 it is wrong but it's human nature. It happens all the time. What we can do is remember what happened and do what we can to prevent that from happening again. That is still happening in different parts of the world right now.
@joeartega1712
@joeartega1712 3 года назад
My mother would tell me stories when I was small, my cousins on my mom and dad side lived in Tempe Arizona summer time was our VACATION to see Grandma and Grandpa (60's)
@JB-uv4hm
@JB-uv4hm 3 года назад
Sitting Bull would disagree as to who was the most famous native freedom fighter.
@kenterdman7969
@kenterdman7969 Год назад
Thank you for you videos and content! Arizona
@MakeDixieGreatAgain
@MakeDixieGreatAgain Год назад
He fought against the United States, he was defending his home and his people. I hope no one ever decides to pull down his monument.
@marchillis6079
@marchillis6079 3 года назад
Interesting and I looked all over for Apache, AZ. Thanks for pointing it out.
@andytso7990
@andytso7990 3 года назад
Atleast he fought for what he believed
@deandominguez8629
@deandominguez8629 3 года назад
Thank you very much, such a sad ending to a true American’s life!
@Fire0warrior182
@Fire0warrior182 3 года назад
A great man. Sadly didn't get to see his land..
@lylebackus1148
@lylebackus1148 3 года назад
On a level with Osama Bin Laden
@Fire0warrior182
@Fire0warrior182 3 года назад
@@lylebackus1148 His name will be remembered unlike yours but some guy called Lyle Backus 😉😉 hahaha
@dennisammann9104
@dennisammann9104 3 года назад
Excellent historic video Mr. Sidetrack! 😀
@larryaldrich4351
@larryaldrich4351 Месяц назад
Great man. Great warrior.
@cathrynm
@cathrynm Год назад
Rest in peace, geronimo.
@Daniel-wd4jg
@Daniel-wd4jg 6 месяцев назад
Ft. Sill Oklahoma is where he was incarcerated. The jail cell has a "donut" circle worn in the stone floor from his running in circles.
@charlespeterson348
@charlespeterson348 3 года назад
We don't need a wall, we need Geronimo
@mjchmb
@mjchmb 3 года назад
It’s heart breaking
@moncorp1
@moncorp1 3 года назад
No its not.
@diegodlvega9617
@diegodlvega9617 3 года назад
RIP. GERONIMO.
@cmdrrgh
@cmdrrgh 3 года назад
Excellent story, thank you
@psychosneighbor1509
@psychosneighbor1509 3 года назад
I've always wondered why they don't put monuments like this on the actual fucking site.
@georgewhitehead8185
@georgewhitehead8185 3 года назад
This video gives one a time to pause and reflect. Just a few simple lines do not in any way convey the time, the situation, the era, and that is sad, but at least our minds can continue to learn about this time, and people, and this place in History. I think that all Americans would do well to get better acquainted with every aspect of American History, and how far back in time it goes.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 3 года назад
Umm thats the problem really you dont have any history
@apache7074
@apache7074 3 года назад
@@gowdsake7103 ... History is a story written by the white man... UNFORTUNATELY I’M NOT A BELIEVER...
@craigwilleto5674
@craigwilleto5674 3 года назад
@@apache7074 Sadly many people feel like this, but they don't choose to live their lives how their own people live. If you view "white society" like this why are you embracing it?
@YahshuaLovesMe
@YahshuaLovesMe Год назад
interesting fellow... end of life he stayed at a reservation with a minister and because of her he became a nominal Christian, got drunk, fell off his horse in the rain of all things, and died from hypothermia. I have a book who told the story of Geronimo, by a lady minister, friend of his. will try to find it... He was very unique.
@russell-di8js
@russell-di8js 2 месяца назад
Victory at last! Yippee, after reading Dee Brown's>>Bury my heart at Wounded Knee, I personally think rather a lot was lost as well in that era. Thanks Steve another greatly informative posting.
@michaelricks1618
@michaelricks1618 3 года назад
Sadly, like most native Americans he was a victim of brutal ethnic cleansing. A fate suffered by so many people before and since all over the world - even today.
@Huimatewaka
@Huimatewaka 3 года назад
i am a Native of Aotearoa or NZ , respect and love to this great man.
@soonerjhtravels
@soonerjhtravels Год назад
Nice one, thanks!
@manbeastx69
@manbeastx69 3 года назад
Geronimo came for a parlay and was ambushed by the Government."Trust The Government" but ask an Indian first is what they say.
@shadowghostgirl4601
@shadowghostgirl4601 3 года назад
I did my 8th grade history project on Geronimo . Because my dad is named Geronimo :) .
@sjb3460
@sjb3460 7 месяцев назад
Interesting, I spent part of my military career at Ft. Sill and Ft. Huachuca.
@driverjeff1498
@driverjeff1498 3 года назад
All he wanted was to live in his native lands as you can see there is still nothing there. US government made him live in pensacola fla where a quarter of an acre cost about half million dollars.
@samhalgren6305
@samhalgren6305 3 года назад
I was just there on 3/27! Thanks for the history and clarifications. I enjoy your videos.
@SidetrackAdventures
@SidetrackAdventures 3 года назад
Thank you.
@HarryPalmer-P.I.
@HarryPalmer-P.I. 3 года назад
Good stuff. My mom and dad (both have passed) were from that part of Arizona.
@spoton6906
@spoton6906 3 года назад
The site of Goyaałé’s Greatest Regret.
@gussyfoo6100
@gussyfoo6100 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N-RINKRYE5Q.html
@spoton6906
@spoton6906 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JjShSdRZdJw.html
@jamesmurray8558
@jamesmurray8558 3 года назад
I have always like him.I have a close connection to him. I never used his name when smokejumping.
@moncorp1
@moncorp1 3 года назад
I shout Geronimo when jumping off of anything.
@berzerker1100
@berzerker1100 3 года назад
Airborne !👍🍺🇺🇸 1/509th Inf.(abn) the five-oh-nasty. Vicenza Italy 1970s-80s
@NoWayOut55
@NoWayOut55 3 года назад
Found out last year I share his DNA..Along with his Father in Law, Cochise.
@bellzebub427
@bellzebub427 3 года назад
Not all apaches surrendered. Some lived as mexican citizens and others still lived in the remote mountain ranges where mysterious campsites and native artifacts such as arrowheads, tools were found well into the 1940s
@timtravasos2742
@timtravasos2742 3 года назад
Sad, pathetic and incredibly disrespectful "monument" to a great Native American.
@moncorp1
@moncorp1 3 года назад
Really? In what way? Nothing wrong with it. A couple of mistakes, big deal. It was made in 1934 out in the middle of nowhere. Not like they could run to the local library or whip out their phone and get the correct info. Get over yourself.
@TheLoadedGoat1963
@TheLoadedGoat1963 3 года назад
@@moncorp1 No, you get over yourself, Tim Travasos is right it is very disrespectful.
@fawnabullis886
@fawnabullis886 3 года назад
It is disrespectful!!!
@horsehide3039
@horsehide3039 3 года назад
@@moncorp1 Oh my, so much "wokeness" these days. Think about this, if Geronimo was disrespected, he would not have that monument honoring him. Just quit with straining old history through the wokeness of now.
@rateyesmertz3785
@rateyesmertz3785 3 года назад
Part of him is buried at Ft Sill. His head is at Yale with the Skull And Bones Society, right beside Pancho Villas head.
@Tsalagi
@Tsalagi 3 года назад
I'm sure they did this because he was a very powerful medicine man, more powerful in death then he ever was in life.....that's the whole purpose of a shaman.
@bustersmith5569
@bustersmith5569 3 года назад
@@Tsalagi shaman ? 🤔
@Tsalagi
@Tsalagi 3 года назад
@@bustersmith5569 it's a universal term, don't judge me
@bustersmith5569
@bustersmith5569 3 года назад
@@Tsalagi I'm not at all....... just dont know what a shaman is ? Sorry...
@Tsalagi
@Tsalagi 3 года назад
@@bustersmith5569 it's a spiritual medicine man
@sbsims1491
@sbsims1491 3 года назад
Our brother’s bones are sitting at Yale University... In the tombs of (Skull & bones frat house) their disgusting acts of genocide! 🪓🪶🦬🪓🪶🦬🪓🪶🦬🪓🪶🦬🪓
@robertphillips6296
@robertphillips6296 3 года назад
One could argue that the reason for the inaccuracies on the Memorial Can be attributed to the old axiom that “The Victors Wright the History.”
@lylebackus1148
@lylebackus1148 3 года назад
Right
@kodiakkeith
@kodiakkeith 3 года назад
An anecdote associated with the capture is that when riding back to Fort Bowie with Geronimo, they stopped somewhere near today's Portal (census designated place) and asked a widowed Cornish woman at a rundown homestead to feed them. She did with what little she had, beef and beans probably, and while she prepared the food the enlisted men raided her garden and ate every single watermelon she had raised. After the meal, Miles asked what they owed her and she replied that she wanted a dollar. Miles was a jerk so he only gave her fifty cents. Geronimo, probably to irritate Miles, reached in his bag and produced a silver peso (adobe dollar) which at that time was the same weight as a silver dollar and used interchangeably all through the southwest. The woman thanked Geronimo and gave him a big smile, but only gave Miles a cold look as they left.
@horsehide3039
@horsehide3039 3 года назад
kokiakkeith Yes, I have heard and read a few versions of that story. The most plausible to me, was it was actually at the Cienega Ranch, owned by people named Chenowth. It is north of Apache about 30 or so miles on the San Simon river at the base of Granite Gap just off Hwy 80.
@kodiakkeith
@kodiakkeith 3 года назад
@@horsehide3039 Sounds right. Chenowth or Chenoweth is a Cornish name.
@johnchalleen3278
@johnchalleen3278 3 года назад
Cool...I must go there. Did a fifth grade report on Geronimo back in 75.
@dtna
@dtna 3 года назад
You are very good with history!
@robertferrin4408
@robertferrin4408 3 года назад
Past Geronimo grave site when i was station at Fort Sill for Boot Camp back in 08 and it was pretty big grave site.
@grisslebear
@grisslebear Год назад
I find the bullet dents most entertaining.
@carlosvillegas6113
@carlosvillegas6113 3 года назад
Cheers Geronimo!!
@shantyshitter3163
@shantyshitter3163 8 месяцев назад
I lived just up the road in Rodeo NM. I got a good laugh seeing the old stone dick monument again. RRR= Rodeo Radio Repair.
@robertconnor2934
@robertconnor2934 3 года назад
Not a prisoner of war. He was a Sergeant in the US Army.
@bustersmith5569
@bustersmith5569 3 года назад
Oh really 🤔
@gregobern6084
@gregobern6084 2 года назад
The taco place in Safford overloads cheese, hundreds of ants living at the monument organized recovery effort, all the cheese etc. Was moving after 5 minutes
@Lorinda212
@Lorinda212 3 года назад
What does the survey marker have to do with the subject matter? Strange
@horsehide3039
@horsehide3039 3 года назад
Nothing, really. That was just a brass cap marker for accuracy in land and map stuff. It just happens to be there, it is certainly not rare.
@antoniovillanueva308
@antoniovillanueva308 3 года назад
Most historical markers: "Something happened here a long time ago and nothing has happened here since then".
@antoniovillanueva308
@antoniovillanueva308 3 года назад
There is one in Texas that says "Audie Murphy was born 14 miles east of this spot". Not only is nothing happening there now, nothing has ever happened on that spot, except for that time someone put up a historical marker.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 3 года назад
Kind of like your 3rd grade desk, ongo. All three years.
@antoniovillanueva308
@antoniovillanueva308 3 года назад
@@TheBatugan77 Naw, more like your mom. A lot of people have been there, but no one stayed for very long.
@TheAsif5182
@TheAsif5182 2 дня назад
well to be honest it was his land ,he was on right side .because he was settler ,invaders always stands on villain side . but apart from it . its a nice story to tell .thanks steve ❤
@wilde.coyote6618
@wilde.coyote6618 3 года назад
"Digger", the name of his favorite pony.
@dougtodd305
@dougtodd305 Год назад
Geronimo is still famous ,General Nelson Miles,not so much
@kevinkurtz9889
@kevinkurtz9889 3 года назад
I wouldn't call him a villain.
@nancyrode9781
@nancyrode9781 3 года назад
👌 cool i m njoying Ur treks👣
@johnczech7074
@johnczech7074 3 года назад
Very cool!
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