Cherokee Days 2014: Cherokee Genealogy with Roy Hamilton 

Fearing child removal for being Indian in 1970? I call BS! 😅

Some of our elders were tra​umatized. They coped in whatever way seemed safest. We're learning about their ❤lives. @@timwarcloud

The word "quadroon" has been used since the beginning of the 18th century. The concept of quantum in descendants of slaves has been a matter of interest in the US South for a very long time....

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Your right. The nazi party was also influenced by the eugenics movement.

Thank you for sharing this.

Blackfoot, Cherokee, Arawak 🪶 Injuns are melanated 💯

I think this RU-vid video is outdated… I posted a text on it but no response. If you are active in genealogy here. Can you answer my question?

If u only knew the depth of pain caused by the Christians upon the Cherokee.

@@lovemyalaskaful You can no more make a general statement like that anymore than saying look what pain the Japanese did in the 1940's. A true Christian would not cause that kind of pain...and no group of people needs to be painted with the same brush. There were true Christians who suffered WITH the Cherokee and took up their cause.

funny they were able to buy the Chickasaw and Choctaw land for $1.25 a quarter acre poor peasants coming in to settle destroyed families all for their selfish gain

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That's what they call black people..🤔

@@prutissbartlow8835 or American Indians back in the day-check out muelungions why don’t ya?

@@prutissbartlow8835 Its not limited to Black, it includes every shade of color--even Asian.

The census taker identified people by their skin color not their race.

You not Injun nobody erased ya heritage 😂real Indians walk around thinking they are black because our oppressors (the government) reclassified our identity on paper more than 10 times in the last 220 years

My father, deceased, was half Ilocano (a tribe of the Philippines) and Scots Irish Trail of Tears Cherokee. My grandparents brought me to the Philippines when I was 13 in 1980. There, I am 100 percent Ilocano. There are no half breeds. Over twenty years later, mid 90s, I traveled to the jungle in Guatemala where I stayed with Mayans. While there on a non-profit project, a Guatamalan government inspector came to check out the project. She told me I looked mixed Guatamalan. I had noticed the Indigenous Mayans who did not speak English at all, looked like cousins in the Philippines. I really felt like I was with my Ilocano family there. I took a bus to travel between villages. I did not have food with me. Even though I did not speak the language, I was offered food by the Mayans. They had food they grew and chickens on the bus. I do my DNA, had it tested at many companies. My nephew had his done at 23andme only. His y-DNA turned out to be from Southern Asia. I began researching that. It's known that there was migration from Taiwan to the Philippines. I knew that for decades. But I began to learn that there was migration from Southern Asia to the Philippines too. My own father looked like a full blooded Cherokee. His facial features look Native American. People would always ask me if I am Cherokee all through my young life. As a Veteran, I was traveling with some other Veterans through Native American lands. We stopped to get breakfast during our trip to a Veterans conference. Several local Native American men can in to the restaurant. As they passed by our table, they all nodded to me. They all recognized I look Native American. Now I have white hair. My skin is medium dark, a finally red toned. So, my ethnicity is not discernable much. I have Green eyes so now people see that and know I am not non-European descent. They say green eyes are rare. Not true in my family. My mom, all my brothers, and aunt, we all have green eyes. But that giveaway makes it clear that I am at least part European descent. Where's my father looked full blooded Cherokee because of his mix. And, he does have a cousin in Hawaii who is Irish, Hawaiian, Ilocano who looks likey dad too. So, I think you nailed it. I think there is a gene flow between South Asia and Native Americans, done of the flow. My research points to different waves of DNA coming through different periods of time. Like my mother's Viking ancestors, my father's Pacific Island ancestors were sea faring people. Ilocano traded ancient pottery with India and China. Vikings made it to both east and west coast of Northern America. Why not the South Asians? And, why would South Asians need to more than a thousand more less years ago? If people were living in Alaska area, they could travel back and forth too. The gene flow could been going both directs, back and forth. If you have Arctic hunting clans crossing waterways, why not camp out and share in social exchange? Hunter and gatherer society was mobile. They wouldn't think like us, being bound inside a homebound area. I think you have a good observation.

Cherokee aren’t Aboriginal/Aborigines… We’re Native American.

@@jedheart8059My mom’s DNA came out very Asian as well. She had Native American Markers too, but there were more Asian markers than I expected. I knew there would be western Asian because of her maternal Jewish Heritage, but what surprised me was the the most was the amount of Northeastern, Eastern and South Eastern that popped up. I mean I always knew Native Americans came from the Asian Countries (and watching Korean tv REALLY puts it into perspective; being able to place different Tribe features and sometimes Peruvian or other South/Central American peoples, it really makes me wonder when they all migrated), but really seeing it was wild as h3II.

Same language family at least. Cherokee is "Iroquoian".

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👍thank you for that!

My ancestor was born in North Carolina, but lived in the Coldwater camp in Lauderdale, AL.

I am a Hamilton...my maiden name..I have some genealogy information back to 1740.

Then why are you pale with no distinctive features ?

There were other Native tribes in Oklahoma too.

No it’s not. That’s Roy Hamilton and he came from a very well known cherokee family. You need to shut up white boy.

@Frank Ziebarth THE MAN LITERALLY COMES FROM A WELL KNOWN FAMILY (FOREMAN, CHRISTIE, GRANT). DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR DAMN MOUTH.

@Frank Ziebarth also the ones who frauded their way on the rolls are extremely documented. The 1896 roll was thrown out for that reason. Literally look up the Dawson Dawes roll case and Kevin Stitt’s family.

@Frank Ziebarth oh I saw your previous comment calling him a $5 indian. Roy literally died a couple years ago. The man was raised at Stokes grounds but your fraud ass wouldn’t know what that means.

@Frank Ziebarth also, Roy carries his clan MATRILINEALLY. In traditional ways, he IS cherokee and ONLY cherokee because his mother and grandmother were cherokee. I’m Hotvlkvlke through my father but I’m not Mvskoke at all bc I don’t get it from my mom.

Right. These people have NO CULTURE. They came over here with Columbus. Smh

😆they think because they know sun Cherokee words and they ancestors stole land and identity with the government that makes them Injun by blood which is thee only way you could be Injun 🫠🤣🤌🏽

@Nefer Sphere Exactly

Which is why "blacks" "African Americans" should never participate in the census at all because they gentrify our lineage.

What he says is true.

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My grandma was Cherokee aka N. Carolina Baker Roll and married a Melungeon man with a Scottish name. She always said " The land belongs to no man. Because no man can live as long as the land. " I guess you do not know your history. Cherokee DNA comes from Hitties and Pheonicians and was exiled from the land. The natives were not the true natives. The Pre Clovis and The Clovis and were killed off by the people that took their lands aka most ancestors of all Mid West and West Coast Tribes. They believe that could have been the blackfoot because they have the oldest blood. The plains Indians killed off all the horses aka scared dogs eat their meat. The horses here now can be traced back to Spaniard horses.

Who gave you the right to decide? Not indigenous people, that’s certain. We don’t want pot stirrers like you here.

The Cherokees were not Hittites (Porto Indo Europeans; referred to as the “Hatti” by the Hebrews) or Phoenician (Semites with extensive colonies around the Mediterranean as well as their cousins the Carthaginians in North Africa).

Look at the official Cherokee rolls like Dawes, Baker.

@@lovemyalaskafulanybody on the Dawes roll is not real Cherokee they were whites and Asians paying 5 dollars to change their ethnicity the real melanated Injuns were being killed for saying they were Indian 🫤

Why does the Cherokee Nation interpret not moving to the west as "giving up rights"? My Cherokee family sees it as resisting removal from ancestral lands. My entire family speaks Cherokee and we are as white as you. So many untold stories or black, white and other mixed American Indians. Will we ever have our voices heard!?

@@Melungeonpeople It was the US government that put restrictions on who is Cherokee or not. A treaty in 1828 stated that any Cherokee Nation citizen that lived off Cherokee land for more than 6 months was no longer considered a Cherokee Nation citizens but instead a US citizen. When the Trail of Tears took place and many were forced to walk to Oklahoma the government then claimed all of the citizens who stayed back east were no longer Cherokee Nation citizens because they didn't live in Oklahoma. Same thing with blood requirements. Old Cherokee Nation (before US government involvement) said if you were descended from Cherokee Nation parent or adopted, knew the language, upheld traditions and ways of the Cherokee Nation then you were Cherokee. The government is the one that put qualifications on the people by saying "degree" of N. A.. I wonder when the N. A. tribes will stop looking to Washington, DC to decide for them what they are or what their value is. And the infighting is ridiculous. Who the "better" is ... those who stayed back east or those who walked the Trail of Tears?! Crazy argument, in my opinion. The old Cherokee Nation said you are either a Cherokee or you are not. They didn't go by degree of blood. What 1/4th of your body is Cherokee while the other 3/4th is not? My family sees staying east the same as your family, Loki - resisting removal from ancestral lands. Leaving or not was a personal decision and often decided by being captured by US soldiers but only the US government got to decide who could lay claim to being Cherokee. Yet, today we have people arguing over the issue as though the US government is God and their interpretation is all that matters. In my opinion, we will never stand completely upright until we stop looking to Washington, DC to tell us who we are AND that goes for N. A.'s or any other group of people. I can never be documented Cherokee because over the last 150 + years I can not document that every generation from the Dawes Roll was female and once a son becomes your ancestor you lose citizenship, also my family has not lived on a reservation continuously since the 1940's. People, wake up! The enemy is not east band vs west band or full blood vs degree of blood. We are allowing our separation because US government education has taught us to and what was once not accepted by our people is now used as fact and truth. Just like anything else .... lies told over and over and not challenged end up accepted as truth as time goes by.

@@Melungeonpeople My Great Grandmother wore Cherokee clothing and lived in Kentucky/Tennessee (Daisy Belle Dishman "Du Chemin") and claimed to be Cherokee Indian.

@@sharonallen6921 I am Cherokee and know this from stories and customs. My gggg grandmother was rescued from the Trail of Tears and then lived in TN. And later into Ky. I feel it in my soul and in my heart and in my bones. I am Cherokee and proud of it. Those that don't want to accept me because of a white mans rule are not living as to the Creator's law.

Cherokee follow the maternal lineage, so you would use your maternal grandmothers family.

I now live in Mexico on a ejido which is very much the same way my people used to live. We own our house I built but not the land it is on

How you disrespect these people your an ignorant joke take that to heart obviously trailer

You need to study more !

Most of the real Indians lost their Identity because the white made them classify as negro while these people were stealing the identity of my ancestors 😆

Its funny how the Indians and pilgrims are the same people

No evidence of them being black...

I’m Black and Chahta. I don’t necessarily subscribe to the Natives were actually Black people narrative, but we were, in fact, very brown skin people. I was told when I was little that most of us used to be my skin color, which is bronze with a reddish tint. We also had more full lips and coarser hair, like I have. So to say we were once just Black, it isn’t that far off, I don’t believe. But it’s not the same simply because the ancestors chose it to be that way. Personally, I believe it’s about who you are in your heart. Not about any of that other bs.

@@DrowningAreYouAborigines were dark in complexion and had very strong facial features that looked negroid we are not black that is a word the colonizers labeled us

It is the tribes that are more 'European' that are making stringent rules on what it means to be cherokee and other tribes that look European.

Exactlyyyyyy these Asians and Whites are infatuated with our culture they wanna be us so bad

Exactly only foreigners and imposters call Aniyunwiya Cherokee 😆

@@KinachCuttahmup we are TSALAGI tribe, ANIYUNWIYA are the original TSALAGI, not the TSALAGI watered down with other tribes' blood, in Oklahoma, not watered down with YONEGA/WASICU blood, either, pure bloods, from the Tsalagi who escaped capture, went higher up into the mountains, where yonegas/wasicus were afraid to go, and lived out their lives, as they always have, I was raised old ways, my family are a long line of medicine and spiritual leaders. Osda