Cherry Angiomas and How to Treat Them | Doctorly Debunked 

'Pure anecdote' OK, time to hold yourselves accountable for misinformation. Can't possibly be 'pure anecdote' or 'purely coincidence'. Bromine and Iodine are in the same column on the periodic table. Obvious highly likely chemical substitutes for a lot of biochemistry.

Is it also a common occurrence for angiomas to appear and disappear shortly after? I get them in my abdomen but not for long periods of time. 🤔

And easy way to see if you’re iodine deficient is to buy a cheap bottle, apply in an obscure place with a cotton ball, wait an hour to see how well it’s absorbed.

Can you do a video on dr. Dennis gross daily beta peel extra strength please

Hey can u make videos for teen skincare routine? and recommend some sunscreen for teens?😁and also tips for dark circles

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I've always been told they are hereditary and caused from hormone changes as well. Skin tags are caused from hormone changes

True. Agreed. Same. Seriously, right! 🤔🙄😒🤨

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Heck, along with the lack of MD or Dr in her page title! lol

Hahahaha so true

For real! I mean, my 7 yr old could sound this word out… 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Right!

:))))) so tru

My favorite example from a favorite professor: If aliens came to earth and saw everyone at the beach eating ice cream, they might correlate ice cream with sunburns and that ice cream causes sunburns Clever!

not clever. Silly. Your professor doesn't understand the concept of causation and correlation.@@KJB0001

Yes. Yes.

100%

One day they will hurt someone, and be sued.

You guys need to research the body’s need for iodine. She is accurate. Iodine pushes out halides and the bromine shows up in skin. The case they are mentioning has also been misrepresented and understood. Please look into Dr. David Brownstein’s work on iodine. It’s life changing and of course traditional medicine doesn’t know about, nor believe this information.

@@paigeschultz6951 Thank you 🙏

UM! This is the kinda stuff I’d wanna sue a doctor over!!!!

Dermatologist here - It's easy to understand that you are frustrated but you probably had a hemangioma variant called a pyogenic granuloma. Normal hemagiomas are common during pregnancy and only a very tiny percentage of them will become pyogenic granulomas. These are a little more likely to appear during pregnancy and may be easily missed when they first develop because they do look like a new hemangioma. Your experience, unfortunately, is not unusual. These pyogenic granulomas can grow quickly, become very fragile, and can bleed easily and often can only be treated by the excision that you ultimately had to undergo. I wouldn't put all the blame on the dermatologist who tried to help you - this is certainly not a reason for a lawsuit.

@@davidvandam2405 that’s so good to know! And I would NOT sue, I’m just upset that I didn’t just leave it. It was such a tiny dot for so long, until I had it frozen. I should have just left it alone, I just didn’t know.

After surgery i had a horrid scar, i took proteolytic enzymes 3 hours after food, now it's as smoth as my normal skin, no longer an embarrassment .

@@kkeekins1 i would say tho dermatologists tend to be the worst doctors out there. There was a time when I had like 15 plantar warts on 1 foot, they were growing bigger by the day and were quite uncomfortable, and the dermatologist said they all had to be burned off. Burning 1 off costs 100 dollars, in my country this is very big money, i dont have a lot of money so i only had 3 burned off. (for context 300 dollars is a months worth of salary) For the next week I literally couldn't walk because I had open wounds on my foot and it was painful. The other warts were also still continuing to grow. So i went to the internet and looked for research papers myself and found out that electrocautery is an inferior form of treatment, the best treatment for warts is using topical salicylic acid that costs around 1 dollar for a tube of cream. I used the cream on the rest of my warts and after 3 days and they were ALL GONE WITHOUT ANY WOUNDING. Now before the procedure i told this doctor that im a keloid former and asked if theres anything she could do to prevent that and she just said "ah dont worry, the sole of the foot doesnt form keloids". After 1 month of having to put up with open wounds on my foot, and 2 months waiting for it to completely heal, lo and behold the wounds became keloids... I literally couldnt even Now im in med school because im just so sick of doctors giving me an rx of antibiotics for a cough, and fucking up literally so many things, i mean I understand not every doctor is at the top of their class, but holy shmazm pazm they should at least prioritize the safety and comfort of their patient oflver how much money they were going to earn. That dermatologist bitch was even talking about eating out a fancy dinner with all her assistants after my procedure, in my face because they just got so much money off off me in one sitting....

What!! Ridiculous

@@annabenezue5624 what part of her comment is ridiculous?

@@Snappypantsdance I wasn't saying she was ridiculous nor her comment. I was saying the doctor's comment was ridiculous 🙄

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Not every nurse knows everything. Let’s leave it right there. I’m so sorry she scared you . I would have had a Dermatologist diagnose you instead of that nurse scare the heck out of you. Blessings to you ❤

My body litrally looks like I've been sprayed with hundreds of tiny particles of red paint :/

Fatty liver?

@@paranoah1925 That's on thing that could be, should check out your liver function. This is what we didn't do, so it could be out diet.

Same! And my mother has them too! They’re mostly on my torso and I swear I must be making at least one a week! This past year has been the tipping point for me. I hope I can do something that works. I’m 36. I didn’t have any at 30, and I haven’t had children, so it’s probably mostly genetics for me. Since this increase I have been scared to look like I have forever measles by the time I’m 40. This video has been helpful!

South Texas Represent!!!! 💝

Okay but what about a murder mystery involving a dermatologist? Best of both worlds, eh? lol

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please read scientific journals for your education in helping others and not just youtubers.. thats scary.

Kathryn, I am a primary care provider…I have to know a little bit about a lot of things. With time, my knowledge of certain things is depleted (if not in frequent utilization). I often have patients with skin problems that I immediately send to dermatology (which often requires a long wait for treatment), when there are treatment options within my scope of practice I can help these patients with. I do not consider the content on this site as my source of research. If you knew anything about my education, you would know that everything I do for my patients is based on evidence-based research with randomized controlled trials being the gold standard of research. I have been specifically educated on how to research data and what research studies are actually significant. Please do not insult the education I have worked so hard to complete. Respectfully, Kera Steward, FNP-C

Those may be strawberry hemangiomas, which are slightly different

Thank you for what you do!!! We will need your work more than ever in the future, as this anti-science culture grows. SMH!

@Sarah M Anti-science culture? Sis, if you believe questioning science/data/research is anti- science, YOU'RE Anti-science. 😬

@@seh0041 Mistaking correlation for causation is how we got the false theory known as germ theory. VACClNES have caused everything from allergies to cancer. Hay fever was unknown before they started poisoning us with mercury, aluminum, and all types of pharmakeia/sorcery. They poison our pets and livestock. Use some brain cells to conduct real inquiry.

@@seh0041 The entire premise of science is built on questioning things and testing hypothesis. Just because you question something instead of taking at face value doesn't make you "anti-science".

Yep, they just keep multiplying and growing! My dad gave me his and my mom has a few too. I can't stand them.

I am 28 and just started to develop them, but they are almost everywhere. My mum has them.

I’ve had a section of them on one of my inner thighs forever and never actually known what they were! They sprung up mostly when I was young but have gotten a few more as I age (I’m 27). Lately I’ve noticed more, but still only in that one spot. So weird

I have the same exact situation. My mom has them, now I have them and they've slowly gotten worse through the years. I'm 44. Not all of them bother me. They're not severe but I have one or two that bother me

I was always told they were age spots!

Many dermatologists have no clue and make the bulk of their money on consultations and cosmetic procedures. I went to many growing up and all throughout my 20s for what I, and they, believed was acne. They all treated me with the gamut of things (antibiotics, laser, peels, blue light, etc) for acne. And each one I went to never cared about my history of treatments with other doctors to maybe ask why it kept coming back to warrant yet another dermatologist visit. They're only concerned with what they see right in front of them; they're only interested in what's skin deep, so to speak, instead of digging deeper. Not one of them correctly diagnosed my skin condition as folliculitis. I diagnosed myself years later off of social media. So, thank you RU-vid and TikTok!

@@devon7826 eating disorders aren't a cure for anything love

@@Christina-pv5yq It sounds like you’ve had some bad experiences. I hope all is better.

@@SomeOtherSusan Thank you. They were good experiences at the time as I genuinely thought I was getting the help I needed. Now, I'm just focusing on getting my gut health in check which is the real answer to a lot of skin issues.

@@Christina-pv5yq hi :)) what did you do tho??? do you think it has something to do with gut health???

Yes, make sure you only get your info from entities funded by drug companies.

@@Britslovesocialismand what drug is advertised in this video?

@@Panimavka_ I didn't say any drug was being pushed, but the AMA and most medical schools ARE funded by drug companies, and drug companies don't want you using natural remedies. I didn't think that I had to break that down into such small pieces, but here we are.

@@Britslovesocialism ok, maybe then you mean there are natural remedies for cherry angiomas they are trying to hide from us?

So why did you feel the need to tell us that you're a librarian?

Interesting! I broke out with hundreds of them during my last pregnancy.

Wow same here ! I was wondering what was going on with my skin 😖😓

I too developed these during pregnancy. Three cherries, one for each baby. I sort of love them, a happy reminder.

I noticed my abdomen was dotted all over with them as well during and after my pregnacy, lol. I figured hormones because, hey, the body does what the body does! I was never concerned. They haven't grown or mutated or anything so, like you, it's just a reminder of my beautiful gift 💕

Hello Molly how are you doing today

Hi, i have a couple questions after reading your comment..I am also diagnosed with hypothyroidism, and after 2 years of getting blood work every 2 weeks, my doctor finally found my correct dosage of levothyroxine. So do you know if hypothyroidism causes the cherry hemangiomas? And do you take the iodine kelp for your hypothyroidism? I didn't know that was used to treat it..??

@@erinhayley9948 I don't think there's a correlation between the hemangiomas and thyroid disorder/Hashimoto's, but I can't say for sure. I had my "spots" for quite some time before being dx. being hypothyroid can cause a lot of vitamin deficiencies and one of mine has been iodine, because I don't eat nearly as much as I need to to get it via diet. the caveat there is don't just decide to take it. I still get my bloodwork done about 3 times a year and includes vitamin deficiencies (like d, iron, iodine, zinc, etc) and this past go my zinc was really low for some reason so we added that. Now, melasma is another story - that relates more closely to inflammation and hormonal changes both of which tie in to Hashi's. I keep hoping some day, someone will invent a sunscreen that doesn't feel like spackle on my arms and face because no matter what other products you use for melasma, if you don't have sun protection it's all for nothing.

Mine are just on my torso also

I’m similar, except I’m allergic to iodine.

@@erinhayley9948 I have no such health problems but the cherries run in my family, mine started on the left side of my chest and very slowly making their way to my upper left arm...

I get mine removed. I've also removed some on my in by using one of the inexpensive mole pens

What is that process called? Not that I have the money for the zapping them, but I'd like to know what to look for.

Can you link it!.

(not a Dr here) From what I gathered...I got the impression somehow, that these cherry angiomas (though quite common) were MORE likely to occur for an adult. Assuming that is true, then I might give your Dr. some credit for going the extra distance to try and suss out any causative factors. Now-a-days if a doc can in anyway justify that a minimum standard of care has been provided, and that their diagnosis coincides with a statistically likely outcome, then they are done. I am very interested however in where your doc was going with the liver tests. Like, what did they think the spots might be? Because I didn't hear anything about cherry angiomas being CAUSED by anything accept genetics and MAYBE some kind of surplus of bromide or deficiency of iodine.

They Really didn't clear up anything

I love the term ‘skin features’ and I’m going to use that now 😊

I’m very Irish….i get them all the time!

I have had one become like a skin tag on my forearm. Which would get caught on clothing and cause it to bleed. I eventually managed to treat it myself with OTC topical and believe it or not pimple patches.

@@callmewaves1160 what was the topical? I have one on my thigh that I’d like to get rid of, but would like to try it myself before seeing a dermatologist.

Me too

@Theresa R. You just gave an example of correlation is not causation

They're like moles on my body 😅

A large number of people in the trans community also have EDS for whatever reason. It would be cool to know exactly why that is.

What!! Neurodivergent here 👋 and covered in cherry angiomas from bottom of trunk to top of shoulders. Had no idea that there was any connection to being ND. Been doing research on this for 10+ years without much understanding of why it’s happening to me. Would never have thought there would be a neuro connection.

My daughter has EDS and also has these. But it's hereditary to my family too.

Hadn't heard this commonality with EDS, we call them our strawberry fields :)

I have cherry angiomas and alot of petechiae! The petechiae are all over my arms and look like red tiny freckles. I was worried because I had a blood disorder as a kid and thought I might have issues again but got bloodwork all normal. My mom has them too idk I thought maybe because we're Irish lol.

I have had cherry Angiomas for 36 years. I was diagnosed hypothyroid 25 years ago. Been on levothyroxine ever since. The bulk of the CA’s were on my head and upper torso. The head of dermatology at UCSF 30 years ago , after repeatedly trying to peg him on what causes it finally admitted “ we don’t know”. All these years later, based on these two dermatologists admission, they still don’t know. Frankly I don’t attribute it to “bad luck and genetics” as my siblings don’t have them (nor hypothyroidism). My pet theory is the too many mercury fillings I got as a kid….given their location.

Wow, the Bateman routine reaction is such a good idea. Lol. I second this suggestion, please do that

Lolol. I just used my cold mask because of him.

Is it normal for a cherry angionma to come and go

Such a good question! I wanted to know that too

@@Kelly-pp1et same girl. I am so paranoid now everytime I'm getting my nails done 😑

@@Kelly-pp1et I wear UV driving gloves (the ones that don’t cover your nails)… they work pretty well and my nail artist have no problem on working with me having them on. But one thing is also not over do it with the gel/powder nails, so a lot of the times I just do regular nail polish (no. UV needed) specially for my pedicures! 😉

They’re bad. There’s case reports of increased skin cancer from them

@@Kirlita that's a great idea! I will definitely skip out on gel for my next appointment.

Yes please!!!! I am a fair skinned blonde who forms keloids. I had keloids lasered off of my ears 30 years ago and I keep hoping some day they can be treated so I can pierce my ears again.

Yes

Yessss pleaseeee

Yes please!

Esthetician here and honestly depending on how severe. Surgery is the only way to get rid of a keloid. Then using a topical cream like a retinol or even Imiquimod to reduce the appearance of scarring. Of course a doctor would have a more thorough answer.

Omg I got one under my eyebrow too that popped up! That's SO ANNOYING!

I'm 41 and saw one for the first time on me

Lucky you! My family has them everywhere. :(

@@snowps1 same 😭

@@snowps1 Mine too. 🍒

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Agreed. I have angiomas due to genes as well.

I hope it's benign.

It's good you went to a doctor about it. I have friends who won't go to the doctor about things that, it's important to get stuff checked out. I hope your finger heals really well and the results show it's nothing to worry about

Thanks for the concern 😊. Pathology came back and it was benign. Stitches come out next week. Very relieved and grateful for the better to be safe approach of my derm.

@@CowCowTheCat That's great news!

Same happened to me while pregnant due to my blood vessels all being more swollen than usual and it was something that looked like a cherry angioma on my finger that became huge and hot and swollen, dermatologist said it would have burst had they not cut it out or burned it (I forgot). I have a huge scar that looks like a spider on my finger now. It itched for a few years and I’m just grateful it doesn’t itch anymore. Long story short, go to the Derm!!!

You can search this knowledge already, you don't need the dermatologists giving you lengthy lessons about the principles of medical/scientific research.

@@D.von.N yeah, it’s so weird but I actually understand how the internet works. My suggestion comes from wanting to hear their perspective because they’re good scientific communicators. I also think their audience would benefit from this information but not necessarily seek it out.

You're correct. Most folks have no idea how science works. I often run into people in discussion that say the silly line "well is science works so well, why does it change all the time?". It literally makes me face-palm. Science works precisely because it changes all the time. Better information comes in, is proven correct, and the scientific theories are updated. Simple as that. But I've met many people that think because it changed, that means the whole thing is bunk. Drives me insane...

@@LordBLB yet they will be the first in line to beg for the newest cancer treating drug instead of thoughts and prayers, and maybe leeches at most...

One good thing is to be very cautious with Preprints. Science preprints are put out on subjects that are very new and sometimes cursory reports on new studies that are being done that give other researchers an idea of what work is being done, but the study may go nowhere or be of very low quality or a useless study and they can be very problematic because they have no peer review done on them yet and if they are reported on and used in an inappropriate manner by eager journalists, they can badly mislead the public. The use of Hydroxychloroquine in treating Covid19 is an example of the harm that can be done with preprints being used in the wrong way by inexperienced people.

prove it

I had one just below my eyebrow removed with electrolysis, about 3/4 years ago, never returned. Might work for you.

I removed a dozen off my torso with a red hot paper clip tip (heated with a cig lighter). Pop, they were gone, no scarring and never came back.

@@77dris Ahhhh, too chicken and I might miss. Lol.

Yes me too with laser. Slowly grew back over several years. I have thousands of them on my body

Yeah mind seemed to come back

Love this. I'm gonna steal that line. My little ones point out my cherry angiomas and moles all the time.

I have many all over my body so I must be a genius lol

My mother told me that they were "magical spots", because they disappeared when pressed on and reappeated afterwards again. 🤣

My mum told me my mole was a beauty spot💕

😅km in mko mko kopp kopp mlm

Another great idea. This is one of the most common reasons people come to the office! Either because they are concerned about them or because the just want them gone. Dr M

Mine are like that too! Tiny red flat specks. They are only on my breasts which seems weird to me. I hope they don't get bigger.

I'm glad you got a proper diagnosis, albeit too late. Sending blessings for complete healing and no future reoccurences.

I hope it’s not your doctor anymore