Celtics are 1 of 2 teams Jordan has losing playoff record vs! 1-3 in series and 10-12 overall vs the pistons, an 0-2 in series an 0-6 overall vs Boston! Only team he never won a playoff game against!
Hakeem owns jordans ass, I wish jordan didnt retire, I would have loved to see him getting cooked by hakeem, 1995 rockets swept the orlando magic who beat the bulls in 6 in ecsf
@@dynamic6645 Malone had a winning record vs jordan in regular season also 🤣 we saw what happened in finals. Imagine bragging about the regular season 😂
@@courtneywhite9336 You Should Thank Bird For Making His Team Mates A HoF's. That's How Great Larry Bird Was He Motivates His Team Mates To Be A Good Players.
Watching a lot of these 86 and 87 highlights, I find it interesting to watch Jordan's body language. He looks deflated most of the time, like he doesn't see a point trying. He's slumping his shoulders and does things like drop his arms in a way that I can only imagine also includes an eye roll if we could see his eyes. This is very unlike 1990's Jordan. I really get the feeling he's mailing it in on effort. And yes, maybe his team was a bunch of bums, but... yeah, it's pretty clear Jordan's hustle and defensive work ethic clearly came only after he got paired with teammates he liked (namely Pippen?) (... and that said, Bird still burned a hustling Jordan repeatedly in 1990/91)
wow. you are such a genius to figure out 1988 jordan won DPOY because of 7.9 ppg scoring bench warming rookie called scottie pippen. In case, if you were blinded by 1986 jordan's supercharged playoff run of 49 pts and 63 pts at boston gardens literally destroying peak prime champ bird in his own building as Bird literally saw "god disguised as MJ" even in his nightmares. gtfo with that weak stuff.
@@mkhan8527"Destroyed" Bird? Jordan put out those numbers and still lost every game. And you're forgetting Game 3 where Jordan only scored 19 points and fouled out, and the Bulls got swept.
Larry Bird in this series: 26/10/9 shot 53% FG 66% 3PT 90% FT and played 45 mins per game Jordan averaged 36 points but only shot 41% Say what you want about who won more rings but I'm sure Larry Bird would like to have played the '97, '98 Utah Jazz instead of the '85 and '87 Lakers in his last 2 finals
@@357twilson the Sonics were awesome would've given both the Celtics and the Showtime Lakers problems, but yeah Jordan's Finals opponents were not that great
@@mandodelossantos2 I think the whole who was the best thing is impossible because of so many different variables, eras etc. but I do know that at their best Magic and Bird were every bit as good and dominant as Jordan, total mastery of the game
As he always did when healthy. Hawks, Bulls, Pistons were simply roadkill for the Celtics until they got old and broken down and even then they gave those teams trouble. Bird at his peak is the GOAT, not even close. I'll take the intellectual game over ballhogs like MJ, Nique and Kobe any day and over LBJ's game too.
Hindsight is 20/20 being a celtic fan as I was. Should have flipped the Bias pick for depth, which is what the Celtics needed in both the front and back court. I say that even if bias would have been a star because the window was closing on the Celtics fast. Red said you cannot teach height.... why didn't the Celtics draft Mark Eaton in 1982 ? He went in the 4th round.... ? How about this... instead of getting Walton for Maxwell and a first they trade with the Jazz in 85 ... the 86 sonics pick and Maxwell for the 85 Jazz pick (which turned into Karl Malone) and Eaton.... 86 front court of Bird, McHale, Parrish, Eaton, and Malone.... good golly miss molly !
Jordan's team mates are all bums from 84 to 88!No disrespect to Bird and Magic but they had 3 all-star team mates since they went respective teams while MJ had zero all star team mates from 84 to 90...
Dude get lost Oakley avg 20p, 15r, 3a, 2s this series and the year before Orlando Woolridge avg 20p, Corzine avg 12p, 9r, Oakley 10p, 10r. Just stop it Jordan completely disappeared in the 4th quarter in an elimination game right here in front of you
@@mandodelossantos2 you dont know shit get lost!Bird,McHale & Parish are all members of the 50 greatest players of all time!Wooldridge (who has drug problem)highest ave.with the Bulls was when MJ was injured missed 64 games!Oakley's highest ave was 14 pts/9+ rebs, Corzine best years with the Bulls was 1981 to 1983 when he ave 14 pts only Oakley had a 1 allstar appearance in 1994!The Celtics Mchale was a 7x allstar ave 26pts/11reb in1986/87.,Parish ave 19pts/10reb 9x allstar,Dennis Johnson 1979 champ&FMVP with the sonics 5x allstar!Boston was a Superteam!Pippen came in the league in 1987/88 season ave 7pts while MJ was the MVP,DPOY,SCORING CHAMP,STEALS CHAMP!Pippen became an allstar in 1990 so MJ the lone star from 84 to 89 against teams with multiple allstars like Boston,Lakers,Pistons & Sixers...
@@dynamic6645 No. All star appearances are only part of the equation. Besides, all star starters are chosen by the fans, not the media. Kareem's got an argument for the GOAT but I think Jordan has a stronger one when taking everything NBA-related into consideration. One thing that cannot be disputed though: Jordan was clearly the better player of the two when both were in the league at the same time, from '85 to '89. Kareem won 3 titles during that stretch too but Jordan was still the better player by a country mile.
Jordan was "better" career wise because the league was horrific in the 90's and there was no Bird or Magic and the Bad Boys got old. I'll take Larry Bird every day of the week over Jordan, who didn't win jack in the 80's when the league was at it's best.
Proof the 87 Celtics were better than the 87 Bulls... But sorry my friend MJ was better than Bird and the 90's bulls better than the 80's Celtics... SIX rings > Three rings
Pass that bong over if you really believe that. The 90's Bulls were not better than the 80's Celtics, Lakers, Sixers, Bucks or Pistons. Nor were they better than the early 2000's Lakers or Spurs, 2000-2014. MJ and the Bulls benefited from a watered down league due to expansion and more importantly the refs making GD sure MJ won as many titles as possible. They've tried to help Lebron in the same way but he can't get out of the way of his own shadow. Absolutely should be 1-7 in The Finals if not for Ray Allen's lucky ass shot against SA and the league rigging the 2016 Finals to finally get the nauseatingly disgusting city of Cleveland a championship for the first time since Washington was President.
@@tombstone1111 This is truth. Watching old youtube games has proven to me beyond any doubt that officiating in the 90's was bad, and officiating in the 2000's and 2010's was worse (but only in the sense that the bad Jordan-specific rules of the 90's got applied to all players and all teams). Officials were very consistent in the 80's. The games make sense. The players aren't frustrated by cheating and bad calls. Then Jordan comes along and somehow ego-wills the league into letting him play his version of basketball instead of the league making him to play the same game everyone else has to play. Then we get up-and-coming stars in the 90's like AI who could have been every bit as good as Jordan, playing a Jordan-style game -- but got called for travels and reach-ins for most of their careers. So much so many commentators would point out that they didn't get the "favorable calls" that a "veteran like Jordan" would get. (as if being a veteran was the reason). And then in the 2000's they swallowed the whistles generally as the whole league trended toward bad dribbling habits, palming, travelling, and illegal step-backs. Also watching the 80's games shows me how much hustle the average team had. Teams were scoring more points because they were running, and running hard. All the time. They put their arms up to contest shots, they played smart and didn't take themselves out of the play trying to make a half-hearted "impress the coach" close-out against an outside shooter. There was so much hustle and intelligence both from so many players in the 80s -- not just the one or two "super-stars" and maybe "defensive specialist" on any given team (which basically means "someone who actually hustles on D").
Really, I chuckle now everytime I hear "defensive specialist" .. like, it's a fancy way of saying "this player here is not the usual lazy bum on defense"
