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Chigorin Defense Middlegames - GM Ben Finegold - 2015.10.13 

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@missjessgem
@missjessgem 9 лет назад
at 25:35, when Ben asks what move was played, I immediately said "Resign" to myself and Ben responded with "Don't say resign.".
@Sakurei1
@Sakurei1 9 лет назад
+Jessica Crawford Me too. Felt silly afterwards
@Bigp707
@Bigp707 9 лет назад
+Jessica Crawford yeah me too) And then i laugh for a minute)
@BBEros
@BBEros 9 лет назад
+Rust Doper No , come on, It was good. But the part " If Im helping you you are really in... " JAJAJJAA this guy is so good cos he is good at teaching and he makes it so much more fun...
@R3DI5C00L
@R3DI5C00L 9 лет назад
+Jessica Crawford when Ben asked about a particular year in the beginning of the vid I said "eighty something" out loud, only to hear the same thing said a second later lol. It happens often with Ben's lectures
@benstannard3574
@benstannard3574 9 лет назад
This guy is a legend. I would watch him for his humour even if I didn't play chess!
@dusty7644
@dusty7644 8 лет назад
+Ben Stannard I get it :D
@guts2044
@guts2044 4 года назад
Ur lame
@abhi_shek1196
@abhi_shek1196 2 года назад
@@guts2044 no u
@patrykapiezo1650
@patrykapiezo1650 2 месяца назад
I do exactly that. I mean, i technically play chess online, but most people would agree that what i do on the chessboard is actually not chess.
@doofus9575
@doofus9575 8 лет назад
Maybe Ken West should sue Ben for public defamation. The court case would be hilarious
@Sphere723
@Sphere723 7 лет назад
Defamation has to involve lies.
@doofus9575
@doofus9575 7 лет назад
Sphere723 Ben lies that he is a grandmaster!
@Brusselpicker
@Brusselpicker 6 лет назад
"GM" Ken West.
@Sakurei1
@Sakurei1 9 лет назад
I'm very happy that GM Finegold rates my skill so highly. Sorry, but by move 10, I made at least 13 mistakes already. I'm not very good at this whole chess thing. But I appreciate the confidence! I totally believe you in regards to Belgium and the Netherlands moving, don't worry. Very convincing there.
@VulpineShine
@VulpineShine 9 лет назад
He gave us credit for rotating the board and setting up the pieces correctly. We must be getting better.
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa 4 года назад
The funny thing about chess is that, if you think about it, multiple things can go wrong with just one mistake. This, is it one mistake, or is it multiple?
@thatchessguy7072
@thatchessguy7072 4 года назад
gxtmfa If you blunder a pawn and blunder check mate in one, your opponent will take the pawn but that’s beside the point.
@DrunkHoonigan
@DrunkHoonigan 9 лет назад
Yes!!!! Ben is the best. Give him a raise!
@SteveRunciman
@SteveRunciman 8 лет назад
+DrunkHoonigan The chess club should have taken your advice. Ben has left for North Carolina and we'll never see another of his videos again!!!
@iDeathSparky
@iDeathSparky 8 лет назад
Incorrect!
@MehfoosYacoob
@MehfoosYacoob 9 лет назад
Man I never thought watching chess videos would be this entertaining. Thanks, Ben! You're the gateway drug to the rest of the chess club's videos (I like them more after watching Ben)
@RaloARG
@RaloARG 9 лет назад
ben, im from argentina, i just love your way of teaching, your humor, and everything. Im even considering going to ST louis to learn chess. thanks for everything
@BBEros
@BBEros 9 лет назад
+Ramon Israelit Ufff buen plan. Este man es MUY divertido... La parte de " cuando te ayudo yo es por que ... " es increible .... Hace mirar estos videos el doble de bueno... Estaria buenisimo ir alla cuando este este man ...
@jasondoe2596
@jasondoe2596 9 лет назад
Yay, Ben reads our comments!! BEN, *THANK YOU* FOR ALL THE LECTURES, AND FOR BEING 110% AWESOME! I can even forgive you for making fun of Vishy! xD I'd love to attend the lectures, but I'm not in the right continent for that. I've also lived in Belgium for a little bit, though :D Now, this particular lecture was as informative and as entertaining as expected - and got me interested in an opening I've never played. Nice!
@Dooban
@Dooban 9 лет назад
Cool of you to reference us in the video! Once again, your lectures always bring a smile to my face.
@PazuChill
@PazuChill 8 лет назад
I don't understand any of this, but I can't stop watching.
@elbay2
@elbay2 9 лет назад
That was one of his funniest videos, well done! Strange opening too, no? I guess it's the surprise factor that probably throws some people off..
@augustsbautra
@augustsbautra 9 лет назад
Best lecture yet. That export messup at 17:00, priceless.
@DiDanilo
@DiDanilo 2 года назад
What an instructor he is. He teach the way the young get never bored I sware.
@emmanueltorres7917
@emmanueltorres7917 7 лет назад
Don't ever stop making videos. You teach great chess and you're a funny guy. I'm rated over 1800 in blitz, which is good, but I still have so much more to learn. And I can watch one of your videos more than once, because I know that I will not catch everything the first time around, in fact, I don't think I'll ever catch everything. Keep going, you're great!
@jackanderson719
@jackanderson719 3 года назад
The games that you showed in this video have inspired me to start playing this opening.
@nicolasdubreuil8746
@nicolasdubreuil8746 Год назад
Hi Ben great thank to you, I beat my first GM last sunday with Chigorin thanks to you!
@johnstephen399
@johnstephen399 8 лет назад
"It's obvious to even the most dim-witted individual...with an advanced degree in hyperbolic topology..."' lol
@lellosbarello90
@lellosbarello90 3 года назад
It's a Futurama quote i think
@flippert0
@flippert0 8 лет назад
I like Ben's lectures for beginners but not his advanced classes. He often shows just his own favourite lines omitting more general lunes or the best defense (or attack) lines of the opponent.
@majesticwizardcat
@majesticwizardcat 8 лет назад
I really enjoy watching this guy !
@Busenberv
@Busenberv 8 лет назад
Ben's lectures are terrible, incorrect, very suspicious and a little iffy, all approved by Ken West with advantage!
@benselectionforcasting4172
@benselectionforcasting4172 7 лет назад
SOLID!
@arsenalfanrichi
@arsenalfanrichi 7 лет назад
Maybe he should do what the French do and give up...
@Orkgrunzer
@Orkgrunzer 7 лет назад
I hate it when that happens
@benselectionforcasting4172
@benselectionforcasting4172 7 лет назад
Nerzhul I mean I like it when I'm white and that happens
@Hennyandginger
@Hennyandginger 6 лет назад
arsenalfanrichi you mean retreat
@natebrennan3239
@natebrennan3239 8 лет назад
When ever I listen to Ben while playing chess, I win. On the other hand, i''m pretty bad when i don't. Is he done giving lectures?? I love this guy!
@Liltrom1
@Liltrom1 8 лет назад
Hit "4" repeatedly for Ben to lay the smackdown.
@santiagoproano5863
@santiagoproano5863 4 года назад
lol Awesome!
@beckyv1408
@beckyv1408 7 лет назад
"You're the best player in your chair." 43:30
@andrewb1830
@andrewb1830 9 лет назад
I love your videos! My teacher told me he faced you and you destroyed him XD. Continue the great work!
@atulnemlekar9539
@atulnemlekar9539 9 лет назад
Great Lecture!!!
@AndrewIsbell
@AndrewIsbell 9 лет назад
Thanks Ben
@gxtmfa
@gxtmfa 4 года назад
Still pretty amazing to think Smyslov made it that far into the candidates tournament in the 80s
@jasbirsendang2600
@jasbirsendang2600 4 года назад
GM"s exciting & veryvery good teaching
@TheNuncFluens
@TheNuncFluens 9 лет назад
We need more Ben.
@HermanHeffner
@HermanHeffner 8 лет назад
i loved hearing ben laugh lol
@pgoedde
@pgoedde 9 лет назад
great lecture !, as always
@canektirici
@canektirici 9 лет назад
because I watch ben finegold lectures to sleep recently I started hearing random "attacks the queen again, yummy yummy yummy, attacks the queen again.." voices in my dreams lol
@BBEros
@BBEros 9 лет назад
Maaaannnn you should make a video every 2 days. And in your channel , if we cant see you its not the same. Man you are the one that is funny and makes a chess lecture so much more fun. You should do what matojelic does with this same system . I dont know if jokes would work without a crowd that much . But show your face in your own channel you are the best part .
@excalibirb9204
@excalibirb9204 5 лет назад
Who tf is Ken West
@dominigai4717
@dominigai4717 9 лет назад
Ben if you read this THANK YOU. I would love to meet you and study with you. My 3rd favorite GM
@benoist13
@benoist13 8 лет назад
As a frenchman, i enjoy your jokes ! (well, only those that i understand ...)
@hugorneto
@hugorneto 9 лет назад
Ben Finegold is the Don Rickles of chess. He'll insult you, but you'll love it!
@Jimmyhendrixrules
@Jimmyhendrixrules 9 лет назад
Give this man a raise
@postnubilaphoebus96
@postnubilaphoebus96 9 лет назад
Hi St. Louis Chess Club. You once had a series where people could ask questions about opening problems they have. I do have one as well in the Semi-Slav (with black) and would be interested in a GM helping me out. Is it possible to get included in a future video or can I donate to the chess club in order to be? Thx in advance
@weeddagr8988
@weeddagr8988 5 лет назад
postnubilaphoebus96 no fack u
@CrystalSergeant
@CrystalSergeant 9 лет назад
this guy, sooo amazing. was this intro spontaneously? or prepared haha. he should do some standup for other topics as well :P
@manmoth_1990
@manmoth_1990 8 лет назад
At 9:10, my stockfish at depth 25 said 0.65 for white. At depth 29 it said 0.32 and it's stays confused at that evaluation through to depth 40. Interesting position.
@baksteen123
@baksteen123 9 лет назад
What does Ben say at 9:14 'white has the wrong colored rook.......' ?
@lolpwner123
@lolpwner123 9 лет назад
+baksteen123 wrong colored rook pawn - referring to the fact that on the square on which the pawn should promote is opposite colour to the bishop
@liberatesweden2404
@liberatesweden2404 4 года назад
Mm! I love the E4 E5 opening! 🤔 So explosive. 🙈
@frazexg9457
@frazexg9457 5 лет назад
Ben is a legend
@THRWOW
@THRWOW 7 лет назад
5:34 you can hear an "okay" supposed to be edited out. Saint Louis editing out Finegold? Terrible!
@SebastianBriceno
@SebastianBriceno 7 лет назад
You with some crazy comment!
@mikeweiss8453
@mikeweiss8453 7 лет назад
Perfect Simpsons reference Ben. He's probably reading this right?
@SDSMint
@SDSMint 8 лет назад
i keep wondering, what does checkmate "with advantage" mean? what does advantage or disadvantage matter when the game is over?
@cwjalexx
@cwjalexx 8 лет назад
+SDSMint keep wondering, seems like you're on the right track to figuring it out. ++ spoiler++ it's a joke
@dusanmijatovic7913
@dusanmijatovic7913 8 лет назад
+SDSMint Nothing. It's the obvious advantage beacuse the game is over. So he is joking.
@andrewmurray8461
@andrewmurray8461 9 лет назад
Another great lecture from foolsgold
@Megahax1337
@Megahax1337 9 лет назад
You're really funny ben. Honestly... it is in the way, that probably not so many get or like (i dont know), but i totally get it. Its hilarious... In the beginning i thought you were just another annoying american (im from Europe, Larsenland), but after watching just one of your lectures i was hook. You're hilarious - also because when you make a joke and ppl dont respond ur like "no? okay" and then you just continue. Keep going. Im not gonna tell you 'dont change', cuz even the magician from Riga could never change you, im sure.
@jobinnelson
@jobinnelson 6 лет назад
Ben... U r great
@zonza73
@zonza73 6 лет назад
At 25:00, wouldn't Queen check force the king to move, then take bishop wouldn't let the opponent promote to queen at all?
@Evilanious
@Evilanious 3 года назад
"Queen d7, the only move to hang mate in one." Audience member: "What about king b8."
@tinytim8173
@tinytim8173 5 лет назад
Knight f8 can't do mate even when you're king is on b5?
@robertbradley2420
@robertbradley2420 7 лет назад
Ten Seinfeld episodes worth of humor here. Ben's a comic genius.
@marcinzygmunt2901
@marcinzygmunt2901 7 лет назад
Can someone please write here what Ben says in 3:27?
@ViniciusGuitarGuy
@ViniciusGuitarGuy 9 лет назад
32:14 Because I live 7449.7 kilometers from St. Louis, Ben.
@ludogi4210
@ludogi4210 9 лет назад
i would like to come, but a bit far ^^TY ben
@tomzhangg
@tomzhangg 6 лет назад
What even is “hyperbolic topology” oh wait I just found out
@Runescape9212
@Runescape9212 8 лет назад
Isn't checkmate an automatic advantage for you considering you won?
@cjl12897
@cjl12897 8 лет назад
+Damion Gilstrap That's the joke
@Ninnoa
@Ninnoa 9 лет назад
Ben have you ever had a chance to meet Bobby Fischer and if so tell us story about it in one of your lectures, if it there is anything interesting in it?
@kelly980
@kelly980 9 лет назад
35:03, why not black f5?
@AfonsoPPereira
@AfonsoPPereira 9 лет назад
+Dent Yeah i thought that would win a piece
@TheVishwas123
@TheVishwas123 8 лет назад
can anybody tell me, Where I went in the following moves: 1. d4-d5 2.c4-Nc6 3.Nc3-Nf6 4.Bg5-dc4 5.e3-e5 6.de5-Q*Q 7.Rd1-Ne5 8.B*N-g*B 9.f4-Ng4 10.Nd5- Black's Position is bad ........ Where did I Go Wrong?
@thebluedragon777
@thebluedragon777 7 лет назад
TheVishwas123 first, you accepted the gambit. Expect to be punished for that, lol. More importantly, it looks like you started an attack with zero development or preparation. Of course, that's just my amateur opinion...
@cyxFrag
@cyxFrag 9 лет назад
You, with some crazy comment !
@filipinaspeopleandculture2786
@filipinaspeopleandculture2786 2 года назад
GM Ben is not just knowledgeable, he is also very entertaining. A lot of chess tutorial are boring although the topics are very interesting. Not with GM Ben.
@bmwshop123
@bmwshop123 4 года назад
The problem is, when you push all of your pawns, your opponent might take them (!)
@EvilSecondTwin
@EvilSecondTwin 9 лет назад
lol. I love these videos but NEVER get the "Mike Kummer" jokes. Can anyone explain? Are they good friends?
@AndrewIsbell
@AndrewIsbell 9 лет назад
+EvilSecondTwin Search this youtube channel for his name and you will see lectures by him
@EvilSecondTwin
@EvilSecondTwin 9 лет назад
Thanks, Andrew Isabelle. The thing is, I've watched almost all of Ben's videos and NONE of Kummers'….yet. So, basically, I will eventually come across the answer.
@liam314
@liam314 9 лет назад
+EvilSecondTwin Kummer plays simple, principled, dogmatic chess i.e. low rated chess, so Ben is always making fun of him and the kinds of moves Kummer would play i.e. Terrible!! So yea I would say they are good friends
@EvilSecondTwin
@EvilSecondTwin 9 лет назад
liam314 Makes sense. Thank you for the reply. And to be fair, I have watched only 1 MIke Kummer video (so far) and yes, they both have different styles.
@crepo2000
@crepo2000 9 лет назад
pause the video at 14:25
@infinitysalinity7981
@infinitysalinity7981 6 лет назад
What happened to ben's lower teeth
@minimalistic_banhaus
@minimalistic_banhaus 4 года назад
I would have made 10 mistakes by move 10 but I couldn't find the board.
@yahianad
@yahianad 6 лет назад
I will play Chigorin all time against Queen's gambit. Also I play Rd6 and sacrifice one knight against 2 Bishops.
@harrellt1405
@harrellt1405 8 лет назад
I can already c akobian saying "bishop pair " xD
@randomguy-wz5ud
@randomguy-wz5ud 7 лет назад
15:07 wouldn't it still be a mate?
@nicholashartnett8444
@nicholashartnett8444 6 лет назад
No. Blacks rook has to stay on g8 in order to give checkmate and it's forced to trade because whites rook is checking the King.
@victordeluca7360
@victordeluca7360 5 лет назад
Man, it's hard to mate when you're in check
@cameronmetz4125
@cameronmetz4125 9 лет назад
ben finegold is literally jonah hill
@Grandcapi
@Grandcapi 9 лет назад
If I had seen this video 3 days ago I would not have lost with White against this Chigorin stuff.
@burakilhan4925
@burakilhan4925 9 лет назад
loooool even when Ken west isnt there he gets made fun of. Great stuff.
@autisticcormorant6881
@autisticcormorant6881 8 лет назад
i was one of those 7 people
@atreorey
@atreorey 9 лет назад
Yes, give Gm Finegold a raise, and put him in live comentary, Seriawan is boring and has a funny name. Also Finegold for president of FIDE, no more UFO abductions, thats just terrible.
@BBEros
@BBEros 9 лет назад
+atreorey Jajaja
@Dudeliness
@Dudeliness 7 лет назад
The only thing Ben likes more than Chess is diabetes.
@lamb998
@lamb998 9 лет назад
mike gotta change his name...
@JudgeHolden13
@JudgeHolden13 4 года назад
Suspicious
@dreamdamons4576
@dreamdamons4576 8 лет назад
yes yes. love love love from Iran
@muskaka1268
@muskaka1268 9 лет назад
i like him
@LexFloyd
@LexFloyd 9 лет назад
Would have liked to see f4 at 24:30 forcing the king to retreat. Then you can hope for ...Kd4 to checkmate in the middle of the board :P Terrible, most likely.
@mauer1
@mauer1 6 лет назад
I can't come, I'm on the other side of the world
@pijusgreicius7025
@pijusgreicius7025 5 лет назад
Ben says RAAAAAWRRR
@janrieser3865
@janrieser3865 9 лет назад
two bishops are better than two knights, but now i have one knight, haha!
@Guyyyy7445
@Guyyyy7445 4 года назад
who is julian, he seem to insult him a lot.maybe his favourite😂😂🤣
@moneykhan4137
@moneykhan4137 9 лет назад
it's like Bobby Fischer ate Jonah Hill and some Krispy Kreme...
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 4 года назад
4:40 "Now, this opening is named after which Russian grandmaster?" "Chigorin." Oh, come on. We all know the correct answer is "Grandmaster Defense."
@fallintoadream
@fallintoadream 11 месяцев назад
Mr. Defense was highly prolific in his contributions to opening theory
@simsisthecommander
@simsisthecommander 8 лет назад
lol oh shit ben, the cubs won the world series
@davidwillis7991
@davidwillis7991 4 года назад
I couldn't see how to hang mate in one. I'm not as talented as the audience
@VictorForysMD
@VictorForysMD 6 лет назад
Skip the first two minutes.
@chrisdvine
@chrisdvine 6 лет назад
The Cubs won!
@danielgajdos368
@danielgajdos368 7 лет назад
e4 is a crazy move in first game.
@dusanmijatovic7913
@dusanmijatovic7913 8 лет назад
9:14 White is better beacuse of Finegold rule: A piece is worth 9 pawns!!!!
@adammilat-meyer5436
@adammilat-meyer5436 6 лет назад
although his chess strength cannot be denied, GM Ben Finegold spazzes-out so hard i am unable to sit through his lectures. what i'm saying here is REAL TALK.
@ryantolliver7626
@ryantolliver7626 8 лет назад
Well this is awkward I voted for Pat buchanan...
@dusanmijatovic7913
@dusanmijatovic7913 8 лет назад
+Ryan 4399 :)
@ArtanisOwns
@ArtanisOwns 7 лет назад
with the rook!
@cornekeetels5293
@cornekeetels5293 6 лет назад
The Belgians believe you probs
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