I am sorry I may stepping out of line but I understand his feelings the only way we ever know if he was always like this is the root of issues stress and anger
I didn't expect this to go from funny toxicity to straight-up depressing. I hope he didn't actually go through with it, but if he did we'll never know.
I kinda understand the anger that can go hand in hand with depression if this was the case with him. As some one who is currently with depression and anxiety some times some times all the feel is frustration,. You so desperately want things to go back to when you were okay, or just want the misery to stop. But it doesn’t and you lash out some times. I never have personally even to people in online video games but I can see why a person would.
@@maninthemask6275 I learned to alt f4 and just go for a walk outside if after 30 minutes I still feel no fun/satisfaction from playing games. Even with professional help and meds depression fucking sucks
the saddest thing you can see on steam, "last time active: 5 years ago". just remember to not get absorbed into your games, don't forget how the real world works.
I'd like to see Vorobey cover a video about video game banter and toxicity, like the differences between them and how to identify who is genuinely being goofy, and/or who is sinking to the realm of toxicity. (In case people were always curious , and how to avoid being toxic) I also think it could be a good way to help people playing games like this to better understand how to focus on the fun aspect of gaming, rather than taking it way to seriously that it starts to affect you mentally in a highly negative way.
@@Vorobey69 I'm curious, what's your opinion on kiddie/squeaker rage videos where people egg the child on? I know I may sound like a broken record, but I'm starting the rethink the hilarity of hearing a child scream into their mics...
Think about all the people you’ve gamed with throughout the years, even those guys you had a passing encounter with. Maybe they said something funny on VC, maybe they healed you at risk of their own life, maybe they were following you around and constantly meleeing you despite being on your team. Think about how many of those guys who were just pixelated representations on your screen that all sported some obscure gamertag. Their gamertag might’ve been funny, witty, offensive, or even downright bizarre. Perhaps their gamertag was an inside joke they had with themselves, holding within it some private, sentimental meaning. Think about how many of those guys have since passed away. Maybe you called them a slur. Maybe you friended them and played a few more games. Maybe you got an invite from them a couple of times and declined it cus you forgot where you know them from. Maybe they were on with you gaming late into the night and you guys had some heart to heart where you just sat in a lobby talking, opening up to a stranger about real heavy stuff cus you knew you’d never meet irl and they wouldn’t judge you. Maybe they always had this weird looking avatar that you could never determine what it was. Maybe they were just a pathetic stat at the end of the match as you saw their name listed with a horrible score and you wondered how they could play so badly. Maybe you heard their baby crying through their mic, their mom yelling at them, a dog barking. Maybe they told everyone on the server that their gf just broke up with them and, in a rare show of compassion and brotherhood, everyone set aside their toxicity for a moment to dust off the guy’s shoulders, help him back on his feet, and give him some encouraging words. Maybe you’d see them listed as perpetually online, playing some obscure single player game seemingly 24/7. Maybe the sight of that green dot next to their name in your friends list was enough to make you feel less alone during times when you were gaming a lot more and a lot later into the night than you knew you should’ve. For those brief moments when our lost and vacant souls collide online in these virtual worlds of illusion, fantasy, and violence entertainment, we love each other. We hate each other. We say the ugliest, most hateful things to others that we would never dare say in real life, we hear the funniest things we’ve ever heard. For a couple of minutes every so often, we get to be the heroes we wish we were, winning battles, saving lives, defeating evil and cheating death. We get to do it alongside randoms who in that brief instant prove themselves as our brothers in victory and our nemeses in defeat. In this world, death has no consequence. Humiliation is as easy to escape as pressing a button. But the fellowships we form end up just as fleeting as those few and far between moments of glory. Maybe now, those same players you once fought and died alongside but who have since left their mortal bodies simply sit as grey names in your friends list as… • *_last logged on:_* _over a year ago_
@@Deadliermlg I’m glad you appreciated it man. I’ve had some haunting and life changing encounters with people across my hundreds of thousands of hours wasting my life clicking on a screen and yelling. If I find you in a Company of Heroes lobby at 3 am and you’re American, odds are youre as much of a poorly adjusted degenerate as I am. Not a lot of doctors and lawyers in Battlefield 1 lobbies… but we all have a story.
I have never seen such... disgusting whining. i barely can believe that wrote human, more like ChatGPT had given a task to do a school essay. you make me want to hurl.
This is too beautiful not to share. Thank you so much for these words that bring a sense of life to my heart. People often perceive having internet friends as something dumb because the relationship is behind a screen but they often fail to realize that some people can form stronger relationships with internet friends because of the circumstance of being behind a pixelated screen. Thank you so much for your words. ❤❤
Hey, I am friends with one of the TF2C moderators and I sent him this video. Rest assured, this person isn't dead. It's an alt account of a different player. I will not reveal who for privacy reasons, but just so you can sleep better at night. They seem to have improved in their behavior too on their main :)
I hope you’re right and what you said is true. Because I checked the steam profile that this guy’s TF2C profile was connected to and its profile picture was changed recently. So I hope this guy is ok and he has no problems in life
"Friday the 13th. Almost seems intentional" A lot of suicidal people tend to plan out their actions, as believe it or not, suicide isn't easy. It was most likely planned months beforehand. Poor guy, hope he's ok.
@@thenextgeneration9030yeah this guy was a toxic asshole sure but nobody deserves to feel this hopeless. Have you ever been so depressed you wanted to/tried to kill yourself? I attempted. My state of mind was dark to say the least, NOBODY deserves to feel that way.
thats honestly depressing af, the things he said are awful but the fact that something COULDVE happened to this guy gives me shivers. i hope hes alive and doing better. no one deserves that
It's important to recognize that when someone openly and loudly talks about killing themselves they may be desperately seeking support and understanding from others, which he didn't quite receive by people who encouraged him to actually do it. This openness about being suicidal can indicate an actual genuine cry for help. While of course some individuals may use such language to seek attention or provoke reactions (something completely unheard of in tf2), but it's still chilling how he went from playing matches daily to none at all right after he said these things...
The mistake here was expecting sympathy and empathy from a PvP centered game community given absolute no moderation or oversight on collective behavior. PvP games hardwire everyone to turn into heartless psychopaths, especially when they can't see the person on the other end of the screen who is genuinely just falling apart
The way he treated others, he got treated in turn. Ironic that he may have been looking for help after years of insulting and berating others for no reason. Guess it caught up to him in the end, there's no excuse for being a consistent asshole, no matter your mental state.
People can call me weird all they want, but when i see those super toxic, angry, offensive people on internet, i just kinda get sad for them because they clearly are out of control of their anger and are in extreme stress. Something very important that i learned in my life is that the way you think and acts towards the world is a reflection of how you think the world think and acts toward you
probably the single most sad thing i've ever seen on tf2 or even steam altogether, to see a toxic player say "kys" to be literally done in that horrific action is dreading. btw love ur vids bro ♥
There is a school of thought that suggests that telling others to do certain things reinforces the idea of performing those actions yourself. So it's possible that all his time telling people to off themselves fixated it more strongly in his mind. And seeing how much time he spent in lobbies and how little emotional support he received, I would not be surprised if at some point he "lost the spark" for TF2 and with nothing else going for him, he just... ragequit life.
As someone who has a lot of experience with depression, anger issues, etc., videos like this break my heart. It’s very likely that our “bleach” character could only ever find meaning, hope, and purpose in the joys of Team Fortress 2, but when that wasn’t working for them anymore…they gave up. Whether this means they actually killed themselves or just separated from the game will probably be debatable forever, but I hope their story encourages more people to be kind. As the saying goes, you never know what someone else is going through…especially behind a screen
This comment section shows that there are people who care, and that you are not alone in whatever challenges you may face. I think its safe to say that nobody here knows who this person is and yet everyone cares about his well-being. I hope all is well for bleach whoever he might be.
Same here. I hope that the reason they haven't been online is because they logged off and got help, and not the worst case scenario. I hope they have friends and family to support them.
@@thehealer09 i'm not trying to be an a***** but u don't know this guy... maybe he was a bad person who did bad things to ppl , or to other living things and it shows on the vid.. the way he insults ppl always with cancer or other sickness is not cool.. im not saying that "hope he k** himself", but at least he is in a mental hospital or taking meds.
@@Mai.Calico listen, im glad he did because id be searched left and right for answers due to my tiny, absolutely fucking crackheaded brain that wont understand that some things are just not ment to be known
I remember once being supportive of a troll I can't remember exactly what I told him anymore, but I tried my best to be kind and I think it genuinely made him feel better. He told me he was actually depressed and looking at this guy, I'm guessing most toxic players just project a lot of negativity. Back then I didn't really have any goal except making someone's day so I can feel proud of it, but if there's anything I can get from this video, it's that you should always be kind to others in online games cause you never know what they're going through Like let's be real, this guy is dead, there's no way around it
some people on another thread swearing they have connections and this is just someone's second account that he abandoned. idk if you can trust that, but if that makes you feel better...
hope that dudes okay. ive been in a similar state of mind, and interestingly enough would play for like 8-12 hrs a day, mostly on the same map, just rotting in my chair, miserable, constantly getting pissed off and voicing it to myself instead of chat idk it really is a disgusting feeling to have your last resort, the final thing you turn to for happiness just upset and piss you off. feels like theres nowhere to go, youre just stuck with the thoughts. idk if that’s the case for him, i dont know him. i just hope, like you said, maybe he just took a break. i did for close to a year after that time period since i was playing the game in a way that wasnt good for my mental health at all.
Same thing happened to me. I was like for a year until I started improving last year in 2022. I'm starting to work out now and I'm going to be consistent this time. I pray that bleach is okay and that he's doing it for attention or maybe he actually got help. Rather have a clout chaser be alive than a suicidal person.
Last time when I get really drunk during my TF2 gaming session, I went really mad at some point I don't remember cuz u know, an amount of alcohol in my blood. After I woke up tomorrow morning, I started steam and saw a new comment under my steam profile. It was saying: "This man have a suicidal tendencies in his words, pls somebody who have connections with him, call him, I need to know that he is ok". Well TF2 kills I suppose
I have met a dude not long ago on 2fort, he was batshit crazy. He was saying suicidal things, toxic things or just outright mumbling and did this in rounds over and over again like some schizo. Im still not sure if he was just trolling or not but it was unsettling and sad.
If this guy failed knitting a scarf he'd blame the yarn and tell it to go kill itself. The only reason you don't see that is because these kinds of people don't get into knitting, they get into gaming.
I hope this serves as a grim reminder to anyone who takes games too seriously. Games are supposed to be fun, and you’re supposed to enjoy playing them. When you get so caught up in wanting to win and “be the best” you can start to lose yourself and act in a way you’d never act irl. And in extreme cases, like our unfortunate Bleach here, it can end very badly. What I’m trying to say is, there’s nothing wrong with wanting to win, but try to have fun more. Learn to hold your L’s, and sometimes just take a step back if it’s really getting to you. Always remember: It’s pixels on a screen. it doesn’t mean anything whether you win or lose, just that you enjoyed it.
@@thisismyusernow When I was young I'd have tantrums over losing in games, I still feel frustrated today, but it's nowhere near what I did back then, I'd literally punch myself in the face whenever I did anything wrong lol. Nowadays I just kinda get worked up after a lose streak and quit for an hour or two, breathe, and come back to the grind. I mean, I don't judge anyone for getting angry at the game when they're sweating everyday to get better and it doesn't work, for some people(including me), being good at the game is what makes it fun. But fuck me, don't kill yourself because you can't 1v6 in TF2, go do something else, discover new pleasures, I dunno, enjoy your life.
@skylerfisher4347 Y'know, I believe what you said not only applies to games, but anything you may want to get good at. Quite unfortunately the thing is, about certain stuff you can't really step back to get better (like certain jobs, or some student positions). I wonder what'd be the best thing to do when such's the case..
Poor guy… he was visibly mentally ill.. Meeting these kinds of people is horrible, yet sad.. it always gives me the feeling they are like this due to a rough life, anger issues or something else degrading.. I really hope that Bleach managed to find some help and didn’t follow through on it, all the stuff he said is nowhere near acceptable, but anyone can change, I hope he found some help and is trying to fix what’s wrong right now.. Just remember, these kinds of people can be severely harmful, but they are doing it either without control or out of pure frustration (Screw the kinds of people who do it on purpose, they suck) Hope he’s alright.. ❤
I completely agree, I get that feeling too. I always hold myself from talking trash back to these kinds of people, because I never know what they're going through in life. They might be just doing for fun or they might be taking their frustations out onto other people, Hopefully bleach changes for the better. Its been a year since he was last seen so his fate has been already choosen, either for the better or for the worse. But lets all hope he is doing better. ❤
that's what i'm saying, he's probably had a rough childhood that was traumatic and abusive to him or he was going through a rough time and he was playing tf2 as an escape from reality
I hope Bleach is ok, although I doubt that. If anyone out there has certain problems, get help. No one blames you for having issues, and if they do, I’m pretty sure they have problems themselves they are trying to hide. I’m not being fake with you, I genuinely believe you can be happy, because that’s just how things go. It’s a roller coaster of emotions. And after you power through it, you’ll feel like a champ. Stay strong kings!
I think you managed voice alot of our own thoughts, I really just hope the best for bleach and people that are suffering from the same types of issues as him. You too stay strong, you absolute king.
I have been through a portion of my life where i was playing all day and i was absolutely miserable, there was no hope in the world and it was all i wanted to do, its a hole you dig yourself and i was deep, but i am better now and have been trying to reform myself back into a functioning human with real social connection and less toxic online fakeness. I still play games but its not nearly as much and as damaging for my mental health anymore. It was honestly to the point of playing just to play and i wasnt having fun, just getting mad at every death never even enjoying when i did something cool or won a game. It was a difficult cycle to break. Sometimes its easier to escape and not be present in the world, but you create your own hell when you do that. Confronting your problems instead of trying to hide will always be better imo. Idk why i typed all this but i hope someone could relate to it and not feel as alone, we all go through problems in life but I think its best to enjoy the challenge of overcoming odds and giving a large middle finger to whatever demons you may be fighting. Stay safe brothers and sisters theres more to life than mental illness and the pits of hell.
@@BoogerJohnson-wx7jx this used to happen to me as well but not this intense. My self esteem went low, I had no friends, I was shy, my grades were low, and always raged because I couldn’t make a good video for people to watch when I continued to fail. But then, I started to go out there, making friends and boosting my confidence instead of yelling at a computer game. I then started to play basketball, and was determined to become better at it. I barely tried to touch videos games after that. But here and there, I played some tf2 from time to time. I usually tried to stay away from playing video games that much. And it worked. For my message to other people out there, go out there. Make friends, learn what there is to do out there, and break out of that unhealthy cycle. You might just find something truly right for you.
Starting now, this should be taken as a warning to anyone who likes talking trash or insulting other people in game. Whether or not they deserve to be bullied or trash talked because of their toxicity, try not to use their own words against them like saying kys or hope you get cancer. That said, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with Vorobey saying that trash talking is fine just because he does it and it has become such a common thing in gaming. It still doesn't make it okay to be spreading such negativity against other people/players. As a Community of the TF2 Fanbase, we must be better. Not everyone would take kindly to insults which is why there has been so many people being offended easily and some are even becoming toxic by that moment because of these trash talkers who've given such a bad influence on them after getting so mad and offended like how most people would normally react to such words being thrown at them. In the end, they're the ones who would choose to pick up those words and throw it right back at those people who were a nuisance to them, and before they realized it, they have now been intoxicated by other people's toxicity by doing the same thing. Try to resist the urge to talk trash no matter how little you think it insults anyone. You are not them. Don't be like your average trash talking player in any FPS games that ever exists. In one of these days, the things we say to someone might actually come true and we might just end up regretting it. You tell someone who's easily offended, manipulated, hot-headed, and unstable, and they might just actually do it. Everybody gangsta until you bully a bully and they end up turning out to be the real victims who are actually in danger and that their behavior has been influenced by the people around them.
I agree with the point that trash talking shouldn't be done no matter what, i was playing roblox ability wars and was playing engineer and was trying to build a house, and a dude kept targeting me and trash talking me. I felt really mad, sad, and frustrated, because he was using abilities that were super annoying and impossible to counter, combined with engineer's lack of combat abilities (unless you already built some contraptions) engineers are easy targets for toxic people and trash talkers. The worst part? HE HAD SO LITTLE IN-GAME POINTS IT WAS AS IF HE WAS NOT EVEN GONNA BOTHER TO PLAY THE GAME PROPERLY, HE JUST WANTS TO TARGET PEOPLE FOR NO REASON, TRASH TALK THEM, AND THEN GO BECOME SUICIDAL CAUSE OF HIS REAL LIFE PROBLEMS.
People get so brainwashed by winning in any FPS game that it completely changes how they act in the real world, while people like me play the game because i want to have a good time, i don't really care if my team wins or losses, why would i get so mad about losing in a video game?
yeah,i completely agree with you ... vorobey just thinking talking trash is fine,it's just show how he really are In one of his videos he said that "being edgy is not equally funny " when he does being edgy /toxic all the time.. (almost) it's just need a mirror to make him realized who he is but idk if that's going to happen or not but i guess because for content video ,maybe he's not gonna change i guess i'm assuming that he probably does everything like that almost everytime by purpose of course just hopefully he's not actually toxic in real life If he does it for his own pleasure, that's a type of person who is worse than just being toxic
"You happen to see familiar names on different servers from time to time." I'm pretty sure like, half of my steam friend list is made up of people I saw multiple times in TF2 servers.
Oddly enough, I was rewatching his Australium Killstreak Blutsauger video when I was notified that Vorobey made a new video. I was expecting a gaming video, but not a sad video. This actually hit me like a truck. I hope Bleach got help and didn't..you know.
I doubt it. I may sound a bit pessimistic, but the lack of evidence of this being an attention stunt and the consequences of him leaving and never showing up again makes me think he had done the unthinkable.
uh no. trash talking is bad period. Yes, some types of it are worse than others but they're all bad and saying something for the sole purpose of making others feel bad is never justifiable, regardless of skill level.
I agree, people who trash talk consciously are just awful people in general, i understand if you have anger issues and someone is trying to piss you off, but otherwise, why?
Voro only trashtalks cheaters and other people who are being assholes for no reason, he wont just randomly drop an "ez" after killing a random guy which is what most people do.
TF2 competitive can be under certain circumstances very frustrating and painful. You can 'feel' the anger in opponent's playstyle. Playing comp in the map Process is very stressful and can have damaging effects on mental health.
It may be not as tragic as we imagine. Quite a lot of people with suicidal tendencies usually become more cheered up and happy-looking right before the day before their death, since they made *the* decision to end their life and therefore aren't affected by heavy thoughts about such decision. But this person just seemed slightly angrier than usual and maybe, was only thinking about it. So, they left tf2 completely (weirdly, on friday 13th) for unknown reason (burnout, or maybe some personal tragedy - hence that unhealthy obsession with "cancer" jokes) and we don't know their actions after. Maybe they made a better life, maybe they changed their online identity - who knows.
Hopefully this is the case, and whatever the guy is facing right now I really hope he is doing okay. Because no one deserves to be pushed so far as to committing suicide and people agree with that sentiment, this whole comment section is proof that.
Its either hes going on a vacation on Friday the 13th in the woods camping with his/her familly while also being hunted by some wannabe killer (sorry, i cant take the Friday the 13th joke)
I’m going to hold this to my heart and demand that it is reality. I have decided this is canon and I have vetoed all other possibilities. Thank you for putting hope in my heart for bleach.
i have anger issues myself, so whenever i get mad because i’m losing, i just leave. if i stay for too long it just drains me mentally, well that’s what all comp games do to people. comp games are based on mentality, if you have a bad mentality you tend to perform poorly. even if bleach was being toxic, i hope they got the help they needed.
@@czarthy This is pretty disrespectful, if you find yourself struggling and not having the willpower to keep going with the match and find yourself getting pissed off and angry, you should leave. This is completely acceptable as long as you do not make it an issue on others by insulting them or being toxic in chat. You should *never* force yourself to keep going if you find that a match drains you mentally and if you do, you should immediately just take a break from the game entirely.
Same. I get a little mad when I can’t play the game because either they have a god teir sniper or spy, or the enemy team refuses to kick the sniper bot because they were losing before
Yeah I generally like this guy's tf2 anti cheater content, but this is really jarring and inappropriate. You don't have to care or shed a tear for some random guy on the internet, but this all feels in extremely poor taste if they did kill themself.
Tw for depression, suicidal thoughts etc I have had something similar happen to me in a moba i used to play daily. At the time i was heavily depressed, been in and out of psych wards for around two years, generally doing pretty poorly mentally wise and using this game as a crutch to distract myself. One day i was already doing very badly and thus playing badly and got shit talked into the ground by some extremely toxic guy on my team for like 30 minutes and i just snapped. He told me to kys and i almost did that day, if it weren't for my parents finding me before it could happen. Be beware of what youre saying online, you never know who you might be talking to. Im doing way better now and don't get affected by toxic behaviour in online games anymore btw so it fortunately worked out. If you get this worked up over a video game, you have serious issues. Please get help and stop playing as soon as those feelings come creeping up. Stay safe out there, fellas.
In my experience, people who are very toxic / sportsman like in games usually have something going on deeper inside, at home or elsewhere. This video video definitely supports that. I hope he didn't take his own life and is doing better, but you can't really be sure.
i’ve never gone from laughing at how toxic someone was, to feeling sympathetic for them in a matter of seconds… i genuinely hope he’s ok, and that he just needed an excuse to never log on again. nobody deserves this, no matter how toxic
this is one of the main reasons i don't shit talk if i'm having a bad day/game, i've been playing online games for a decade now and i've come to learn that there's people out there that take the things you say/do seriously even without them knowing who you are, always keep that in mind. there's people that actually crumble to useless and meaningless toxicity
I think people like bleach are everywhere, in every community, game, etc. We just don't really care about them untill meeting as close as being in the same lobby, maybe having a conversation. And the worst part is that we can't really help them from our position, we can't reach their family, friends to tell that he needs help. As a part of a scene, we can only spectate, think, suppose and expect.
Thing is, it is frightening how their anger drives people away which only accentuates the problem. This kind of behaviour is literal self-destruction at its finest.
This is why PvP gaming is NEVER Casual. Cause the person you might be absolutly crushing on the other end of the screen might be in a very dark place mentally and your domination is just pushing them further to the point of no return.
I've seen hundreds of players like bleach on tf2, I feel some got no family or social life and it become living playing the game then they get sick of it and then they become miserable
He didn't kill himself because of a video game. The video game kept him alive. Clearly something else what's happening in his real life or maybe nothing at all. 9hrs a day of TF2, he clearly didn't have a job. TF2 was his only passion. In the game he is this character, a winner, but unfortunately TF2 is not a single player game in which if you are good you win, you depend heavily on your team. TF2 has real toxic players, The Usual, it is casual who cares.. the most selfish rats you can run into, I don't play monopoly with you for you to make paper planes with the monopoly money. If you are going to do that what's the point of playing with you? Tryhards do exist and they are the once that keep the game alive. You are a tryhard. The problem is that the game is plagued with low IQ players. The guys who get angry or rage quit are the once who take the game seriously. The once that make content. The guys who make servers and videos. The guys who learn new skills. Those are the guys you want to play with. When you get equal teams TF2 becomes the most amazing game ever. Don't hate on tryhards, you are hating on the people who keep the game alive to favor the casual players who are here today and tomorrow they will be gone. I went crazy once. I wanted to win a game so bad. I ended up killing the entire enemy team, but I die to a spy who suicide in my face. I was playing soldier. The entire enemy team eliminated with the help of a random crit. The cart is just 4 feet away from getting into the hole. I am laughing to myself, we win I said.... The problem my team is so viciously stupid they don't realize they are all dead. Nobody was pushing. They are all spamming the corner with rockets flares and pipes. I tell them move in they are dead. Eng move the sentry forward. The enemy team respawns . The eng never moved the sentry. The team continue to spam the corner. No reason whatsoever to get angry right? You might rage quit. Me I react differently to imbeciles.
This is a warning to us gamers everywhere to never do something like this. If we put too much anger in a game we should rethink this. Do i want to end my self? Do my actions hurts people feelings? Am i stupid to get mad at a game? Being mad is fine but being mad but is tinkering with your mental health is not okay we should spread this video to alert others and spread cautions for this problem only. Many people die every year because of suicide. We should think our words first before sending it and always keep tempers. I don't mean to think that they had died, no. But i think that we should be supportive to others and care about each others feelings. ❤
damn, Kinda feel for my man, Ive had parents that constantly degrade me, Perhaps what he did was a form of projection. Or Throwing your own problems on others. We may never know.
I sometimes feel I go insane over computer games too, when I play too much... and start to say mean things to others. It's easier to blame him than his addiction, it's sad
I hope you do more videos like this, small tf2 community mysteries and such. Hopefully not as depressing as this one though :( I pray that this person is still alive and just decided to stop playing tf2.
Honestly, the 16 years that Tf2 has been alive for and the amount of players here, there could be even crazier stories out there. Heck I’ve heard some story of a pedo in a server I played on that was a server usual.
This is the first video Voro made that actually gave me chills. Tbh Voro if you're reading this, do more of this! This was a nice mix up from the normal epic trolling videos
despite his toxicity i genuinely hope the guy is doing okay its pretty clear he's got/had a lot of issues. I hope if they are still with us that they managed to find some measure of peace
Probably not....... if this game was his only escapism and it still brought him to his breaking point...... then he was in a VERY bad place physically and mentally
Doubtful considering the dude was playing for 9 hours every single day which clearly meant he had no job or anything else going on in his life. Then to suddenly stop doing even that the day he said he’d commit the deed yeah I think he’s gone.
This is why I don't meet hate with hate anymore. It's a natural instinct to "clap back" at people who insult you. I myself mess with people who mess with me all the time, usually in a humorous way. However, I do occasionally meet extremely toxic players who spew nothing, but hate at anyone in the lobby who will listen. When people return the hate with more hate back at the toxic player that only incentivizes more hate and creates a never-ending vicious cycle...lol the internet am I right. I have found though when it comes to toxic players it is better to "defeat" their hate with kindness and compassion. I once came across a hacker in comp TF2 guy was abusing the no vote kick system in comp and just cheating as a sniper and constantly spamming hate in the chat. People responded to his antics with hateful messages and those messages just fed his crave for hate-induced attention which caused him to continue his hateful crusade. I initially began berating him for not having the skills to fight fairly, but after a few matches I realized this man plays comp everyday (at least according to other players) and does his best to make everyone envious and hateful of him. Thay got me thinking about what his real life was actually like, how awful things must be that he plays comp by himself day after day going knowing that he can't be kicked, knowing that he has all the control. I asked him about his life and he responded with the same bigotry you would expect. But I continued pressing him, asking him about his career, family, goals in life, fulfilment. He slowly began getting quieter and almost began ignoring me completely. So, I began talking about myself, I told him about my life goals, career, education etc. He would only respond at this point when i specifically asked him things such as "what do you want out of life?", But his responses were not full of hate anymore. They were terse and brief, still condescending but no longer belligerent. After several comp lobbies he ended up not joining the next lobby and we played a peaceful fair game of comp. I don't know whay the hacker is doing these days, but I hope he is working on himself in a productive manner. Moral of the story: Defeat a bully with kindness.
The logs show he was playing TF2 every single day for roughly 9 hours. To suddenly just stop after the very day his username was $uicidal and he he was gonna do it makes it pretty clear he went through with it.
@@T_Jester That's the main problem in the game nowadays, I honestly think disabling public text chat in pubs would help this issue as a whole, so that nobody is inclined to air out their frustrations in chat to other team players when the game at this point is just a vibes game, plus there's still voice chat for communication with players and team chat, but mental health is, in my opinion, a good reason for disabling public chat
@@jkjkISHIM I highly disagree. Public chat has been a thing for years, disabling it for such a small reason seems stupid, and wouldn't fix anything. All your doing is removing a way for people without mics to communicate.
This behavior is probably not from gaming. (Even though yes he played quite a bit) his last game and the name change was a last ditch effort to ask for help in his own way, it's called a cry for help and often times people who are suicidal don't feel like they are able to talk about what's going on so they do this in the hopes someone will come to their rescue. Unfortunately it doesn't look like anyone did. His angry comments and trash talk was most likely him using the game as a vent for what was going in with his personal life. It's sad to see and I hope he is ok but when you see someone raging this badly, it's most likely because they have problems irl and need a vent but it never Satisfies them and so they get more angry until they just explode and do stuff like this.
The point is that some other people uses the same strategy as a way to manipulate others, getting their pity and moving them like puppets on a string and because of that it's very hard to know if a stranger on the internet who talks about such things is being serious or just straight up trying to look pitiable in order to get whatever they want without any real effort. I hope the guy is still alive but even if he wasn't I can't feel anything for him not only because we don't know him but also because life and death are just how nature works. If a person dies because they got shot, because they got sick, because a wild animal attacked them or because they just choosed to end their life so be it. It's how nature works. If someone isn't mentally and physically strong enough to endure life in this world, in this society then nature will do its job and we can only do our best to not meet the same fate
@ginocanterino258 that is a very sociopathic way if thinking. Yes death is a part of life but the difference is we as humans have the ability to avoid death as much as possible. We would be no different from animals if we did not have that ability, suicide is something that can be avoided and to just say "oh well thats life" means that you dont care that the person needs help and if they had gotten it they might have been able to become a very productive member of society. But because we just let so called nature take its course on a problem that was most likely casued by us humans, now their family and friends have to expirence a pain that will forever linger with them. Now yes people also do use this for manipulation, which is a horrible fact but ignoring the signs of someone calling for help is not right, even if you just send them to a therapist it's still better than leaving them to deal with a problem that they have shown that they can't deal with because they don't know how to. Now I'm mot saying that toy have to involve yourself with every sob story that comes along but to simply tell it off is one of the reasons people struggle with their problems.
@@vacation_medic 1) it doesn't matter how much we try to avoid death or how many times we deny to be animals. We ARE animals. We are mammals and there's nothing special about our kind because almost every year scientists finds specific traits related to other animals that we have wich means we're not different from other animals 2) it's because we keep avoiding death that we are overpopulating earth, consuming more resources than the ones that gets made by the planet and mother nature, bringing animals to extinction and polluting this world so much that soon we'll have summer all year even when it should be winter. Natural selection would make our numbers more balanced but we keep denying it 3) you're talking about the parents and the people who love whoever wants to end their life but don't you think your quote is a bit selfish? Ok the loved ones will miss the guy so? Does the guy have to be the one suffering (in some countries by being forced to take pills or be literally taken to an asylum where he's more like a vegetable than a human being) just because otherwise his loved ones will miss him? Ending his own life would be his choice and his choice only and even if I don't know the guy (so I can't feel anything for someone I never met) I still now what the pain of losing a loved one is but I am not so selfish to force a person I love into a vegetative state just because I don't want them to end their own life. They think thwir life is painfull? So be it why should they be forced to keep suffering in a society they probably dislike, in a world that's dying year after years and withwhoever knows how many private problems that we would probably never know about? Sometimes you think it's good to help people but other times helping makes them only more miserable just because their beloved ones weren't ready to let someone run away from their own pain. You may call me a sociopath and this only shows one of the greatest flaws in our society: how superficial people can be, giving judgments to strangers just for some words they typed on the web. Before judging why don't you try to know me? We'll probably never meet in person or maybe we meet daily and we don't recognize each others because of the nicknames but still I hope you'll think about what I said. I am not talking out of malice, I don't want people to end their own lives either but if the alternative is to live a miserable life filled with pain, pills and more problems I think they're free to make their choice and we have to respect it
@@literallyvictoriachase why would I? Because I am pointing out a truth people wants to avoid? I am not scared of looking like a crazy person because I know what I am saying is right.
To all my fellow TF2 players, Especially fellow Medic mains, just remember that TF2 is called a Game for a reason. it's meant to entertain, not to be a responsibility, or a burden. so if it isn't fun at the moment you should always feel free to do something else.
This is what lack of a purpose and depression can do to a mf. It enables them into commencing in self distructing activities from which they receive nothing in return and get to the point where they are tired of living.
one thing i think people get wrong with this story is that they think what happened is because of a tf2 rage entirely. It played a part yes, but he was already messed up in the head, if it was "skill issue" or "getting too mad" alone, he would've disappeared suddenly. But naming urself "suicidal" and planning it out, being overly toxic than usual and telling people you're going to do it today makes me think there's more to it than a TF2 rage tantrum. either way, it's obvious that this person played the game "WAY" too much and treated it as a scapegoat from IRL only to realize the issue is his himself, anger issues, mental health problems, and certainly playing games didn't help him out the slightest. This person and "VenusianRapper" both are an example to look into yourself and health before treating video games as a scapegoat, because it won't work it with you.
Regardless of how toxic, and horribly bad a player can act, I would never wish even my most hated enemies something like this. I just hope bleach got the help he needed and is taking a long, deserved break from tf2
It feels kinda messed up that you dedicated this sponsored video to a guy's supposed mental collapse and suicide, and ended it with a 'dont forget to subscribe and leave a comment so the video does better in the algorithm'. Like I get you're running a business here, but this doesn't seem like the video to be promoting
Y'all whenever you see somebody be toxic in a game, send them a friend request and play a few matches with them, dont indulge in the toxicity and be generally supportive whenever they do good in a match. Its a small thing but it goes a long way in both making their day better and also not feeling the need to push others down to bring themselves up anymore.
I can only hope this kid took steps to getting a better mentality, no one wants anyone to leave the world over a game. it's saddening to know this goes on but helping when possible lessens disappearances. if ever you need help with a mental struggle, ask for help, its more human to talk things out then bury yourself in emotions (its hard to get out of those emotions if your deep in it).
There were probably more reasons why he would even think about doing this, it may have been a mix between frustation irl and in-game, but in any case I hope he is doing better.
@@thehealer09 yeah people like this are hurt by failures of any kind. no one actually kills themself over just a video game, it's that losing in a video game (for someone like this) reflects their failures in other aspects of life.
I sincerely doubt he offed himself "over a game." When I see that he previously spent hours a day, every day, playing a game, and being a toxic a-hole, it should be immediately obvious. Hours a day, every day, so he likely doesn't have a job, probably doesn't have any friends, has no other hobbies or coping mechanisms, and he just wastes away in his room, angry and pissed off at the world, playing TF2 and taking out his anger on everyone he plays with. Contrary to popular belief, suicide is not usually caused by being sad. It's usually caused by _hate._ Hatred of the world, of life, of people, your family, of all of it. This poor guy probably had nobody in his life who cared about him, so he basically just said "fuck everything, I'm leaving. This place sucks."
It's horrible to think that he might have ended his own life, but I don't think it may have just been the game itself, but other things that have affected his life. I also suffer from severe anger issues and bipolar disorder as well as other disorders that are too long to describe. (Thankfully I take meds for that) Despite the things he said, he does not deserve to end his life, in fact, nobody does. I hope he is alive and well and I hope he's in the works of getting his life turned around. I pray for him.
Hey Voro, I would recommend adding some links to some mental health charities or help lines or something similar in the description for a video like this.
this guy resonates within me short temper + toxic + suicidal i did go to therapy to fix my anger issue (didn't work much, only a few weeks) so thats good but yeah anger issue is like a ticking time bomb, if you let yourself out of control, there will be consequences
Now this guys messages about cancer makes me curious about if one of his beloved or family member died of cancer. Because most of the people I see has these anger issues. I also have ange issues like this because I cant really control my anger. I think that is because in the past, I grew up with toxic and mad people on the internet. And my anger always exposes me. But Im trying really hard to not trash talk people but sometimes I just cant take it. And sometimes a very affective event happens and I just dont try to hold it and let myself talk sh*t. And this guy or lady might have the same poblem she or he isnt trying to hold her or his anger anymore. And I think that is because of a trragical event happened in her or his life. And, who knows? Maybe there are more people like this. Like those we always see in Vorobey's videos. And we dont know what happened to them. Sometimes anger might cause suicide or turning the person into a f*cking masochist. (Idk if i spelled that right my main langage aint English) But I can predict what those people do when they get mad. Once when I was home alone I got really mad that I just smashed my head really hard into the wall. I dont remember what happened next but I remember that I was laying on the ground and that I was still home alone. So uhhh, before making people mad at you or making them literally hate you, just try to not be that annoying because madness is dangerous. It spreads like an illness and its hard to block. Edit: I hope Vorobey stops making people mad at this point and just starts making normal tf2 content. This also proves that it might be a virtual world that isnt real, but there are real people controlling the world inside. So when you see a person getting mad at a game before saying "dude it just a game" just try to have an empathy. Most people play games to have fun. But when an asshole kicks in and ruins your day making you talk sh*t and exposes you to everyone you just feel bad. And imagine that the same guy posts a recoding of it and earns MONEY from it. I would just suicide honestly...
Skill issue. I may be just a toxic pubstomper, i actually intentionally don't type in chat much because i can come off as insanely rude, but who gives a flying fuck straight up? Have some self awareness. If you're acting like a lolcow, stop fucking talking so the RU-vidr can no longer farm you for views. I was getting focused one game by some streamer, again because I am a toxic pubstomper, and I just stopped talking; focused on the game; and fucked his day. Some of us are there to play and relax, some are there to not play and conga, some of us are there to fuck the rest of you, and some are there to document it all. Just play game, shoot enemy gamers, have good time, and fuck up anyone on the enemy team. Be nice to your team, talk mad shit to the enemy team. Fuck the other gamers though unless they're on my team.
Vorobey had a point in here, I myself suffer a lot from raging and lack of self control, and trust me, 1-2-3 bad matches in a row can really kill your mood so much you just want to stop, nowadays I stopped playing competitive games or just pvp games in general and I've been feeling a lot better, I suppose my main problem was frustration towards players who had really good skill, even then, my 1k hours in TF2 were one of my best experiences online Thanks for reading
TF2bers: "this is an interesting player bingsoy, he plays pyroshark and has wacky videos and art hahaha" Vorobey: "so yeah there is this guy that k*ll himself "
I'm normally a happy person, always positive about things, trying to keep others happen. This shit hit me in the face like the stock of a rifle and then that same rifle being used to smash my skull into pieces. This is so much scarier than most horror games out there, holy fucking shit.
I think a more reasonable conclusion than "some people shouldn't be allowed to use the internet" would be "you shouldn't actively try to provoke clearly mentally ill people on the internet".
Vorobey: WHY DONT THESE TOXIC PLAYERS LEAVE? Also vorobey: What, you’re weird for leaving. Edit: I didn’t know he was gonna commit die so please disregard previous comment.
The way he kept bringing up cancer in his insults seems to me like a projection. It's a wild guess but could he have had cancer of some kind and knew he was going to die soon so instead he decided to cut his life short willingly, when the stress of living, knowing you're gonna die soon, was too much to bear and his favorite game was no longer fun to play no more? If so, then I'm sorry for him. It doesn't excuse constant toxic shittalking but it doesn't mean he deserved to die or get cancer or lose everything that brings joy into his life. If you're still out there, Bleach, I hope you get better. If you're not, may you find peace in death. And happiness in afterlife.
It’s clear that’s what he was trying to do. He constantly talked shit for months, probably wanting to make someone else do the unspoken deed before he did
This is pretty much how my life looked like in 2021. Coming back from school and booting up TF2 just to stay up late at night, being miserable , then doing the same thing on the weekends. After i started hanging out w/ my friends more frequently, my TF2 addiction got smaller and my mental has improved a lot.
THIS ^ this guy CLEARLY had personal shit going on, no doubt about it. but everyone in the comments are jumping to conclusions and saying he did it because he was "bad at tf2" or CELEBRATING his death because he was mean. ffs people can change.
At my lowest points, seeking escapism in a game was everything. Good times in game = good times no matter how you got them. ...However, having bad times all around you while you play the game, and then bad times happen in the game... It feels like the end of the world because the world is already crumbling around you and this is all you had left and it's basically spitting in your face.
I used to do things like him when i was 13 and was in a lot of mental anguish. I would do exactly what he was doing, breeding hate for attention. I’m glad I didn’t end up hurting myself too bad. Nowadays I try to be as nice as possible to people, you never know what they’re going through regardless of their words or seemingly malicious actions albeit online, because you probably wouldn’t hold empathy for someone who beat up your friend irl. Ty voro for taking this matter seriously and being respectful.
I have a bit of a theory about Bleach. It's common knowledge that ingesting bleach or other alkaline cleaning products is a method of suicide, and a quite lengthy and painful one at that. Given what we know about how they turned out (and the fact that we weren't provided with any proof of games where this person was not being toxic), I think that maybe they started doing this as a way of throwing every last bit of pent up anger from their life at a game that used to be fun for them before they ultimately decided that enough was enough. The saddest part is that I could actually empathize with Bleach, since I used to suffer from extremely bad anger issues as a kid and behaved very similarly to this. I have even had thoughts of doing what this person was threatening to do multiple times, and I think that maybe this was a way for them to cry out for help. No one thought anything of it because of the general toxicity before they changed their username and disappeared from the internet altogether. If you can't see what I'm getting at, I'm trying to say that perhaps this user's choice of name wasn't just coincidence, and that they were planning to do this for a while.
Hell, this is really disturbing. I hope he is ok, even tho he was really toxic, he is a human after all. And please remember, su1c1de isn't the solution. Play some minecraft, watch your favorite show, order a tasty food after all. Keep living, even tho life is kinda fucked sometimes
I've played so much tf2 comp that i've become desentizied to the most abhorent, brutal and toxic experiences in TF2. And then we have people like Bleach. Who tries his hardest but always fail, and in most cases, they become so fed up with being a failure that they killbind irl. They want to be good at something, but no matter how much they practice and play, they don't become better according to their own standards. So they spend their days, infront of their computer, rotting away in anger and dispair. Fueled by anger and hatred how they are never considered good enough. How do I have experience with something like this? I was someone like that, except I didn't kms. I instead focused on my mindset, my body and health. Now, I just play casually and for fun. Because that's what games are made to be, right?
