China: Growing and Going to Sea 

Does it really matter who stole the technology from each other? Just develop it and apply it and make it work. Throw away your big ego here.

@@pjeng1 He is actually responding to some stupid 'China steals' narratives.

@@pjeng1 the so called analyst said he's worried about China getting US hypersonic tech when China is clearly ahead of the US. One of the many gaffes in this piece

​@@pjeng1 China has had to steal stealth aircraft designs from the USA just to build the J-20, but STILL can't replicate the superiority (primarily, agility) of the F-22. What kind of a country needs to steal just to keep up, and then realises it CANNOT keep up? Answer: a PATHETIC country.

And the jet engine

It's not very American, it's very FACTUAL, whether your feelings accept it or not.

​@@chrismccaffery1091I accept the historical evidence. I don't know how knowledgeable you are about world history when you say FACTUAL. Don't mistake European history for world history. Have you heard of Zheng He's voyages to the Western seas?

@@DavidDONG-ib8xl What does that have to do with China's "wolf warrior diplomacy" and "face culture" phenomenon plaguing its administration, and pushing China back into the Mao-era, and quite literally attacking the very same countries who made it as prosperous, developed as it is, and brought it into the world economy, invested trillions of dollars into it, under the assumption they would liberalize more, and they instead do the complete opposite. Not to mention how they militarize islands & fake islands inside other sovereign nation's economic maritime zones. And due to its "face culture" phenomenon, denied responsibility over the virus in 2020 and instead blamed it on the U.S. and used their million man bot farm to shill propaganda and say it came from 5 different countries (they changed their story 5 different times) and is the reason why tens of millions of people around the world died, or became severely ill. A doctor inside China had came forward with the evidence and suggested quarantines immediately, and suggested banning all civilian travel from China to the outside world to prevent spreading the virus. This was in 2019. And what did China do? It tried to "save face" and the CCP "disappeared" the doctor and pressured for silence and denial for as long as possible. "bUt LoOk hOw mAnY bAsEs tHe U.S. hAs aRoUnD cHiNa!" Perhaps if China would liberalize more, stop committing genocide and oppression against Uyghurs, Tibets, Muslims, end their belt and road Iniative a.k.a the "Bait & Rob Iniative" of debt trapping poor countries deliberately to steal their natural resources & land, confess and claim responsibility over the virus, liberalize and start allowing free speech, human rights, censorship, release all its political prisoners, and start fair elections, and stop militarization of islands and fake islands inside other sovereign nation's economic maritime zones, and comply with international freedom of navigation laws, stop stealing intellectual property, stop infiltrating western politics with the intent to literally destroy their countries, and so on (this list can go on forever) then perhaps China wouldn't need to be "contained" in the first place! In case you haven't realized, it's the countries in the world who are the "problem child" that need to be handled with kid gloves.

​@@DavidDONG-ib8xl History to the self centered and ignorant is just about few hundred years. Zhenghe could have colonized 2/3 of the world 800 years ago if China also had the colonizer DNA.

@@DavidDONG-ib8xl Mmm yeah, and if China had colonized the world instead of the European? We'd all have a social credit score, wouldn't be allowed to vote for our officials, wouldn't have free speech, wouldn't have freedom of opinion & expression, would all be living under a totalitarian regime under a dictator in a surveillance police state, and ethnic minorities would be in concentration camps being tortured and forced labor, as the Uyghurs are currently suffering through, and we wouldn't be allowed to criticize our own officials, government. Yet Pro-CCP people like you will continue to talk about how "evil" and "bad" the west is. Did you forget who made China as technologically advanced and wealthy as it is today? Yeah, the west. Specifically America. China would still be living in ancient times and be a poor 3rd world country if America had never let China into the world stage and become apart of globalization, and invested in it so heavily, it was America's thought that China would naturally liberalize if they helped them develop and become wealthier. And what does China do to pay it back? Literally bite the hand that feeds it.

Really? Is that true? Are they NUTZ ?

@@linmal2242 OK, some humor here is welcome. Thanks for the levity!

They'll look at Chinas military on paper and say "yeah you can take Taiwan" 😂

Which ex NATO generals? Can you even give one name?

NATO, USA and it allies had lost all major wars since. The latest one is Afghanistan!

Well, expense would be the most obvious answer. Just as a US ARG is comprised of a LHD/LPD/LSD combo rather than 3 LHDs, a PLAN ARG is probably going to be comprised of something similar, like LHD/LPD/LPD (075/071/071). The upcoming 076 has no equivalent in the USN, so it's unclear to me how the 076 will fit into an amphibious force.

076 will have catobar for drones.

It's already too late. The good thing is America has nuclear weapons. I think that the Chinese are willing to fight America without using nuclear weapons so that's good news.

they needed China's help to againt the soviet union at its peak, the US had forgotten all of that, pretending it was a gift.

Yeah, except that the Chinese have long recognized the serious brain drain OUT of China that has been going on for decades now. There are two programs---both abject failures--designed to alleviate this brain drain and entice Chinese to come back to the mainland, offering lucrative positions and packages. These are the Thousand Talents Program and the Young Talents Program, which is an offshoot of the former. Problem is, there are too few takers, and the positions they offer are mostly BS positions that SOUND good (only), but are subject to graft and corruption in the selection process. I don't blame the Chinese. If I were a Chinese innovator, I would be very tempted to jump ship also, given the ready availability of financial tools to help entrepreneurs in the US and Western Europe, and the fact that they know they won't get into trouble with the CCP and end up getting Jack Ma'd just because they didn't kowtow to the CCP.

US only want china to becaming west's sweatshop, that wasn't based on good intentions, but closer to modern slavery.

Yes, I watched several videos here on RU-vid about that. The Fujian (which is once again in dock for repairs) only has enough fuel for about two weeks.

Is any American SSN going to dare sinking a PLAN ship or three?

us is the one that has no modern SSNs, all of them were built 40 to 50 years ago

​​@@xinyiquan666ol we build 2 brand new subs each year and that's getting ramped up as we speak. The Virginia Block 5 is brand new. Chinese submarines look like toys in comparison 🤣

You know conventional sub is quieter right?

Hahaha....then tbe Western hysteria of Chinese rise is totally misplace...so lets calm down on the war mongering..by the US media and politicians..telling everyone that China is a threat to the US...

Afghanistan shared their techniques on how to win.

Delete your account 🤣 China has a lead in exactly 0 categories of technology. They are a generation or more behind in literally everything dummy. Good at making poor copies of stuff tho

Yeah this guy is clueless, and not just about US AC EMALS vs the Chinese MV DC EMALS. How can he be taken seriously when he gets so many factual points wrong???

Any comment on the numerous online discussions and RU-vid videos documenting the two huge cracks in the deck of the Fujian, now once again in port in Shanghai for extensive repairs? These were taken from publicly available Google Earth photos, and appear to be real. Various structural engineers and others who ought to know have written that these are very likely strong evidence of serious design flaws related to the use of cheap steel in the building of the decks of the Fujian. And, accordingly, the head of the company who built the Fujian has been ousted, and is under investigation.

@@terencedoherty3049 Fujian has never once left port since it was launched so i don't know where you got that. And also those 2 ''cracks'' are water and oil marks from the machines used to test the Steam Turbines with Dock steam generators.

You mean the German engineers that the Chinese hired to build their maglevs LOOOOOL. China did not advance their own maglev trains that was all foreign import of talent from the true world leaders the Japanese and South Koreans. China didn't even build their own maglev trains the contract was awarded to Max Bögl a fucking German company in conjunction with a Chinese company. Btw the Chinese maglev is OVER 100kmph SLOWER than the Shanghai Maglev so how you can claim they are world leaders when their trains are slower and all their talent is imported is fkn beyond me. Also i love how you claim the Chinese is more advanced yet we haven't ever seen it used at sea, if you are going to fanboy for China at least get your facts right.

Had you continued to watch the video, you would have seen that he cites the Federation of American Scientists for the identification of the Yumen site as ICBM silos.

@@Rob_F8F "Federation of American Scientists"? If the source really came from the American scientists, I can see why the American tech and sciences have fallen behind. Go search Gansu Wind Farm Project in Yumen City, and you'll find the relevant info.

likewise

So you went off half-cocked and turned off the video before you saw the explanation? Way to have an open mind Comrade.

@@Fed-Dog still wrong and a dangerous shit call.

12 super carriers, more subs than anyone else and thousands of F35s within a few years ain’t enough for you? 🤣 the war will be a flashpoint not a drawn out conflict with a build up. U living in 1944

@Chinese devil No, Taiwan is first and foremost !

Don't worry China will only attack when attacked or maybe provoked! They don't go around bombing other nations just for the fun of it!

@@linmal2242 China will use DF hypersonic missiles to destroy US base in Guam and also US carriers should the US troops get involved in Taiwan Strait when China annexes Taiwan.

@Chinesedevil-rp4nn That is stupid. US bases surround China - not the other way around. Taiwan is considered part of China by the United Nations

They're producing submarines not just warships. I'd be worried about their submarines and where they're are lurking.

@@titaniumskunkogkush4365 They come from Hainan underground submarine base and sneak thru Philippine islands to the Pacific to lob SLBM to West Coast and Alaska.

​@@misha791 yes, they're lurking around Guam too.

They are building 5 subs at the same time.

@@titaniumskunkogkush4365 Yes they are around US coast too, in case of war to not only in SCS but also in US grounds

Because the US believes nobody should be a peer competitor. So if China re-establishes itself in full and ends it's civil war - and Taiwan is part of China again - then the US won't be able to compete economically.

@Rick James Americans are fucking stupid, no way you want even MORE money to be put into defence when you guys don’t even have nationalized healthcare. Do you realize numbers of hulls are pretty much irrelevant right? If was breaks out in the pacific ships will not come within missile range of each other. Look at war games. It’s subs and long range missiles launched From standoff range that will do the killing. The USn and USAF has enough of those already. China can lay down all the hulls they want they will just be more targets. USAF will take some losses but shit will be grizzly for the PLAN.

Duh because lobbyists are mfrs 😂lobbyists with millions of yuan 😂I mean dollars 🤫

Uh cuz US bankrupt? Stupid fks have wasted 20 Trillion in past 20 years. USA now paying 2T in interest alone.

The US and the west were hoping that China would become more democratic over time back then, but it didn't happen under communist party rule today. It is not about stealing jobs. It is democracy vs. totalitarianism. Same it true for dealing with Russia.

They're blaming the factory operators for becoming a boss themselves. 😂😂

Was that stupidity or just plain GREED ?

@@linmal2242 One might surmise it was both, as you have asserted. We have plenty of both traits here in America, as do most places around the world.

@@linmal2242 or sense of justice ?

Who?

@@fdangleshadang-a-lang7149 Australian Federal Police have arrested Daniel Edmund Duggan, a former U.S. Marine Corps AV-8B Harrier pilot at the request of U.S. authorities ahead of formal extradition proceedings. The charges against Duggan revealed that the FBI sought the ex-Marine pilot because of his work in China assisting in training pilots Carrier Operations and Tactics.

India has a very weak navy fleet that is no match to China.

China don't to build naval bases to counter India, they really discounted the Indian completely. 😂😂

No such thing as "Indo-Pacific"

This is the best presentation ever, no nonsense, no political BS...all the crucial parts are well covered in great detail.

@@icebaby6714 plenty of political bias with historical facts left out

Yes, Kmart should have kept their "Kress" name.

the Japanese did it, granted they didn't win but the Chinese have the industrial base the Japanese never could have hoped to compare to

Let's not forget China is not an anomaly. They did not appear out of the ether. They were a superpower long before the US was ever a US. Admiral Zhang He's fleet was bigger than the European powers back in the day.

@@katprowler6805 that is true and was formidable but short lived and 600 years old history.

​@@OpinionatedMatt let's just hope America doesn't think Taiwan is worth getting a conflict with China. Just keep south Korea, Philippines and Japan safe.

@@titaniumskunkogkush4365 that’s dangerously close to the mistake they did with Russia in the past 2 decades or the Western countries did with Germany in the 1930s…

Taiwanese are Chinese

Thanks...I don't know why I corrected myself when I initially stated it was a Knox-class...but you are correct, appreciate you setting the record straight.

Here is one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pw24KOY4wHg.html - CTGN's Documentary: 'Generation Blue Water'

300 years to build a new tradition? Biden has just accomplished that in 30 months turning the US military services into a WOKE military. The Chinese are laughing at us as they build their Navy at a rate not seen since the Japanese in the 1930’s. And their personnel are their to fight. The average young American is taught instead to basically hate his or her “racist/Imperialist” country, so will they fight for a country they’re taught to hate? Oh sorry, his and her maybe incorrect pronouns to use. If you don’t think this WOKE stuff has the capacity to destroy our military from within I’d suggest you take another look at what Leftists are doing to this country. And while the United States Navy has an incredible diversity of jobs that one can get into, the new tool being used now to recruit new personnel aren’t those jobs, it focuses on a WOKE diversity of a Drag Queen.

And you forgot the American "Top Secret Weapon", initiative.

@Kenji Hansolo It is "initiative": The ability to assess and initiate things independently.

You brag so much about US military experience but has it actually fought a major war against a peer competitor before? During WWII, most of the heavy lifting was done by the Russian army against Nazi Germany. When the US joined the war the Germany army was already severely diminished having fought most of its major battles in Russia. In a battle against a peer competitor, the most powerful weapon is the will to fight and die for country. Is there any doubt that if China is under attack by the US or vice versa, people from both countries will willingly fight and die for their own country? And this is what the Chinese will do if the US attack Taiwan. Are the American soldiers willing to sacrifice their life for Taiwan then?

@@jimw1615 And you think that China is lacking that? Look at the past 30 years of their progress, thanks to their hard work, and the West's educating them !

My understanding is that there are serious tradeoffs when you go to a ski-jump configuration. The ski-jump can't take heavy weights for instance, which necessitates reducing the weight of aircraft by reducing fuel, with obvious adverse consequences for their range. Another possibility is to reduce the added armament loads, again with obvious limitations imposed on aircraft.

@@terencedoherty3049 The Queen Elizabeth class of Aircraft Carriers operate the same type of fighter aircraft as do the Gerald Ford class. I haven't come across anyone saying that the F-35's of the QE class don't carry the full payload on takeoff.

@@adityamookerjee. I watched a video on RU-vid, and they were specifically talking about the Fujian. Maybe that's unique to the design of the Fujian?

Nervous about losing your grip on the world?

@@accountantthe3394 I was taught years ago that "control" is really just a myth, one that is made up. In reality no one controls anything in life. To test the theory, just look at how much one "controls" what happens in one's own life. Most countries play the game (it's a deadly one, too) to manipulate others and history has shown over time they have done a pretty poor job of it in the long term. We are seeing it in our own lifetime with multiple examples of it playing out before us.

So cute, to control the world with one military base in Djibouti.

Unlike the u.s., they ain't interested in controlling the world but they surely don't mind dominating the world, learn the difference.

​@@richardkong4387 it is about neat time for US lose control

yeah he brought up Chinese spending by purchasing power but left out that by the same measure China is a much bigger economy than the US

Do you really believe that? Are you that innocent?

Agreed. That's why the rise of China is a *boon* to the world as a check against imperialist USA

@@linmal2242 America's History is rife with the abuses of its military power, including self-serving regime changes. However, the United States has also employed its military in innumerable humanitarian missions, the protection of minority populations around the world, anti-piracy and anti-terrorism missions globally. These are the hallmarks of a superpower. I do not see China stepping-up much and using its vast military and economic resources in humanitarian missions. Feel free to list some of those international peace-keeping or humanitarian relief missions for us, please.

After decades of war in the Middle East under US influence, China brokered peace between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and basically ended the conflict in Yemen, in just their debut...

China doesn't plan on fighting the U.S. directly, they've already begun their war, long ago, by infiltrating western culture and shilling woke culture. Woke culture originated from China and used it as a way to grasp control over the left-wing political base in the U.S. and other western nations, and essentially use it to strangle these countries and destroy their identities and demoralize and weaken their population. TikTok is a big contributor. So is the Wu Mao, one of the biggest bot farms in the world, millions of employees spreading anti-western & Pro-CCP & Pro-Communism propaganda. As well as China buying and bribing western politicians and high ranking officials & controlling many large corporations. They are going for a method of destroying America through the "inside-out" rather than starting from the outside and working their way in. They are planting the seeds and letting the Americans continue to do the work for them, with greedy politicians who care about money more than their own country and the future of the kids, and greedy CEOs, greedy executives, greedy serviceman in our military, navy, air force, etc who are all willing to sell their country away to China for a few bucks.

@@chrismccaffery1091 lmfao what? China is a shitty dictatorship held together with threats keeping everyone in line. What happens when the CCP can no longer do that? Complete collapse bruv. Covid protests almost took u dummies out. China is a paper tiger with nothing of substance to back it up

Thats why Russia has 6000 nuclear war head, maybe 5000 for US mainland, and the rest for the military bases, sad that the people where the base are located know nothing but just being victim. Last all out war before doomsday ! 😥

When you take into account Chinese Purchasing Power Parity and the large proportion of the US defense budget devoted to salaries and other personnel benefits, China spends more on defense than the US has.

@@Rob_F8F because half of it goes to internal security forces keeping the country from falling into complete chaos 😂 it sure isn’t going into useful hardware. And the fact they don’t pay anyone anything isn’t good looool

That still does not stop the fact that china is capable of bombing and blockading taiwan. However, it will likely take another 7 to 10 years before china has the ability to invade taiwan. Bombing and blockading is one thing, but invasion is another, china does not have the ability to invade taiwan yet, they will likely be capable of invading taiwan by 2030

I think China just wants to go back to where it belongs

Tibet has been part of China since before the USA existed

tibet was part of china, in 1912 tibet declare it's independence during the chaos when KMT took power from the last emperor. in 1952 PRC took tibet back.

The constitution on Taiwan - which the Republic of China - firmly claims Tibet as their territory. They claim successorship to Qing Dynasty China - of which Tibet was a part of centuries.

Mao built 3 highways from Beijing to Tibet with the permission from Dallai lama for better connectivity. That was a fatal mistake and lesson for all nations joining belt and road. Mao invaded Tibet in 1959 using same highway. Dallai lama fled to India. Mao attacked India in 1962. Mao took over Ladakh and arunachal Pradesh. Then withdrew from arunachal Pradesh. Now CCP is claiming arunachal Pradesh as south Tibet. Tibet is landlocked and used to use Kolkata India port. Never had connection with beijing

That's why they paid Nato pilots to work for them. Free market babyyyyy!!

@@accountantthe3394 Doesn't necessarily mean that they'll get what they paid for! And besides, the proof is in the pudding or, in this case, the fighting that is to come!

Why would maintaining them be a problem for China?

@@treeinafield5022 Have you seen their economy lately? Not the BS they spout but what outside economists ACTUALLY see! Now, add in their demographic & environmental problems which keep on piling up & getting compounded by others coming to light, then you'll see what I mean!

@@fredhercmaricaubang1883 Yes, happening all of it, but they have now the technology and educated people to cope and overcome it.

The "cracks" are shifting position like water, get yourself a proper education or something like that.

@@andrewlim7751 well, the "like that" is serious 🤣

@@thestevecbr If they were cracks the ship would have broken in half. Steel doesn't make cracks such as that - don't be ridiculous. They are water marks.