Pisses me off when military contractors are found to be providing substandard materials or workmanship services. These boats have 120 lives in them and are put at risk by these cheaters.
There was panic when a Chinese diesel-electric sub in the Taiwan Straits popped up alongside a Nimitz-class carrier having evaded the screening ships and submarine protecting it. Imagine the panic in the DoD when they realized the damage one Chinese sub could do to the prestige of the US Navy? The Chinese Captain and his first officer popped the hatch and waved at the Americans from their conning-tower, then went below and submerged. You can hear the laughter coming from that crew as they went home.
@@laundry08 oh my dear chap, it happened during the last couple of years of the Obama administration. Doubtl9it has been removed by Big Tech by the usual suspects.
I was born and raised in the Submarine Capital of the World. My father was a welder for 20 years at EB. He helped build the Seawolf class. I've got alot of friends who work there now.
@@Crystal-pt1ey Groton, Connecticut. General Dynamics Electric Boat is the shipyard where they build many of the subs. We are also the home of the Navies submarine warfare school and the sub base itself is a mooring for a number of subs.
@@Mike-gt1cs The first season or two was boring. Mainly going after Russians and such. Then they figured out they could recycle the monsters from last week's episode of Lost in Space. Made it a bit more fun.
Against two things: 1. the people that want to take revenge because the USA sucked the resources out of their country; and 2. the greedy foreigners who would like to get their hands on American capitalist-monopolist ill-gotten gains. As you can see, it has nothing to do with the average middle or lower class citizen.
@@creeib Against everybody who stands in the way of the US of A 😎 God Bless America and God Bless The United States Military Industrial Complex. Unironically. 😎😎
Look at the bow windows, that's SSRN Seaview from the TV series, USOS Seaview from the 1961 theatrical film had 8 smaller windows, not the 4 large ones
I am so glad that the US Navy finally got the nuclear powered ballistic submarine Seaview. It can do a lot of things. It has 16 vertical launch missiles for shooting into the Van Allen Belt, regular & experimental torpedoes, bow laser, electrically charged hull for those monster squid, ultrasonic weapon. But best of all is the FS-1 flying sub stored in the bow!
Excuse me, to "amputate the Van Allen Belt". That would protect us from solar flares. I read Theodore Sturgeon's novelization before I saw the movie. Sturgeon was hard pressed to make Irwin Allen's story scientifically plausible including such silly scenes as the polar ice hitting the Seaview as it *sank* . Sturgeon rewrote it so there where columns of ice going all the way to the bottom of the Arctic and they hit the bottom of the Seaview while rising. Also instead of massively increasing the Van Allen Belt (which is what nukes would do) they launched carbon dust to put a damper on the Van Allen Belt.
Yeah, they cancelled Sea Wolf because Virginia was cheaper, then it wound up being more expensive. They should ask Elon Musk to build them a submarine; he'd do it for a fraction of the cost, in half the time, with seven times the quality, 0-60 in 1.9 seconds, and he'd throw-in fart mode for free.
SSN 21 was stupid expensive... and sea wolf class is still more expensive then Virginia as for the shit Elon calls a car... he needs to stay there and deal with the problems of his "more expensive to repair then replace" electric car that will end up rotting and dumping toxic battery by products in junk yards.
@@keithtravelrn Go fulk yourself; what's in need to repair?, the car is fine; it never breaks; it never crashes. Just you need repair; and you can't be repaired, or replaced, thanks goodness.
I am sure I am not the only person that has ever thought of this; What are the capabilities of a sub that has no crew? Fill it with water, equalize the pressure. Full drone sub.
My son is on a Virginia Class sub as I type this. He gave me a tour of the boat a couple of months ago while it was moored in Norfolk. It's an amazing piece of technology. However, I did see some of the outer hull material coming off in places.
Like wise. Being one that builds for the VCS program it’s pretty much unless you have a triangle or circle then you don’t matter And all these people saying we’re not qualified are a bunch of idiots. If only they knew the training we have all the time and had to fit in some in some of those super tight spaces.
look at miley under trump. doesnt appear so. he told china's top brass theyd get a heads up if usa attacks. meanwhile ccp wuhan lab of covid 19, as far as i know, is responsible for mers, sars, swine flu, birdflu... is a true war crime to an 180 nation aforesigned coalition- and america cant get it together - too dysfunctional for time being- while as far as im aware, the wuhan lab is still operational with global bioweapon apacolypse capabilities (more lasting and devestating weapon than even multiple czar bombas(due to germs and their indefinately possible reproduction spans) we could otherwise technically have : an airborne vaccine program, and/or modified/corrected RNA programs/gene therapy and restoration- indefinate/eternal human lifespan program, circumventing the average halflife of dna on earth with restored and renewed genetic health type medicine (personalized RNA vaccines) at any age. but instead its a weapon... technology to live forever dooms all mankind. very sad and lonely possibility for all of Earth in the future/ with inevitable icecap bio extinction ongoing...
I agree with John's comment. This is not just a US problem, substandard materials are an issue for NATO navies including Canada. The steel on the new Canadian Artic Patrol Ships is of real concern as is the paint. These ships are fresh from Irving Shipyard in Halifax, Canada. A ship is only as good as the materials that go into her.
This is definitely true. Albert Einstein is often quoted as having said: "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones".
In my humble opinion, the Navy should have remained committed to the production of the Seawolf class of submarines with the capacity to upgrade factored in as newer and more effective technologies were achieved. If the reports concerning failures within the Virginia class of submarines regarding poor production qualify, forged verification documents concerning quality control, consistently large cost overruns and technology which fails to live up to its hype can serve as sobering reminders of the corruption which can exist within government contracts, coupled with the attitude of “We will just simply pass these massive costs and overcharges on to the American taxpayers.” The security of our beloved Republic and the readiness of our military forces is at stake. These elements should never be treated in such a dangerous, corrupt and potentially deadly manner.
The report I got on Seawolf was they were entirely too expensive to mass produce. Much like the old CGN Long Beach class in which the crushing expense resulted in only a single boat ever produced.
I grew up in Eastern Connecticut just about 18 miles from Electric Boat division of General Dynamics, It was impossible to grow up in that area without knowing at least one person that worked or had ties to someone at EB. Therefore the pride of the Submarine Fleet and The United States Navy was spread throughout the populace of this area. For as long as I can remember fishing in the Thames River on the New London side, the west side of the river. Fishing off "Flat Fish Rock" for Stripers or whatever was running that day. Although I never saw the "Seaview" except on the TV, and I've visited the USS Nautilus. It was a sight Watching the big "Boomers". As well as the "Fast Attack" Boats, either leaving, or coming back from patrol. Cruising up and down, The Thames River. Some people say, that we don't need so big a military or Submarine force. But as long as there are evil entities in our world. Our Submarine force is the strongest deterrent, guarding us and the world against the mad men and women across the globe! I for one am glad that the USA has the knowledge and determination to protect our country, as well as the other freedom loving countries of the world. Thanks EB and the Men and Women that work there and have worked there. That through their hard work and devotion to their jobs, keep all freedom loving people and their societies safe from the threats of the evil minded.
I agree with much of what you say but the Lunatics have the keys to the Asylum as far as American politics go and it's not just the US. I kind of get the feeling that their powers of deterrence are being challenged, 1 minute 30 seconds to Midnight, not good.
Folks, understand that hunter subs are NOT the only defense against enemy submarines. I was in the Navy during the 1970's aboard a small frigate (a ship class even smaller than destroyers of the time). But we had OUTSTANDING underwater detection equipment (not limited to SONAR). And the capability to take out an enemy sub that put WWII depth charges to shame. I can only imagine that the technology has improved since.
Yeah, I had an old master chief radar tech for a roommate , who worked on subs… said he could here individual prop wash from akula of the coast of Russia from Hawaii
I don't have any idea of the Technology that the USA. has. I'm still struggling with my Phone. I'm just trying to learn by doing. I just lost my only son. To the Big C. Not sure what or who is getting this message. I just have to do something.
@@edwinkotlewski5460 I’m so sorry to hear what your going through. I’m sending a prayer to GOD to be with you right now! I pray he can wrap his arms around you and your family. I know I can’t do anything to help. But send love and prayers! As a person to another person I love you! God loves you!
@@charleskavoukjian3441 Thak you. @charleskavoukjian. He had a bad heart that I had know knolage of. With in less than one day HE passed. We are all in shock. I'm Praying the Roserry for him in Church.
In fact, a Virginia class boat did successfully deploy to the artic a couple of years ago. These boat are true hunter killers. There are classified specs that will turn your heads
Buy once, cry once. Build it right, make it future adaptable, and build it quicker. Then backcharge companies that build substandard parts and equipment.
68 Poseidons. Where did you get this number? Each delivers 200 MT of TNT. Which in total is 13.6 GT. It will destroy all life on Earth! This can't be right.
The submarine showed in the beginning is from Voyage to the bottom of the Sea TV series in 1960's. The U.S. navy use both Virginia and Ohio class submarines. With the newest class in production, Columbia scheduled to be replacing the Ohio class. The Columbia is capable of satellite communication as well as firing tomahawk missiles while submerged the exact same way they fire ballistics missiles.
😆 Yeah that was called the Sea View in that old movie and series that they made back in the day. They certainly don't make them like that (movies/TV shows) no more.
Columbia will not be carrying Thawks. Since they are the replacement for the aging Trident SSBN class, whose sole purpose is nuclear deterrence, will most definitely not be carrying anything other than ICBMs. The first 4 Tridents were converted to SSGN for one of the nuclear treaties and the Navy did not want to decom boats that still had viable service life left. The The newer VAs are being fitted with the VPM, allowing them to replace the 4 SSGN. Columbia's will hide with pride and pray to God they never have to deliver their payload.
Sounds like they are building outdated and non-funktional, non-optimized equipment that have to be replaced asap. So that all sounds like a giant waste of money to me.
It’s the most deadly submarine in the world next to the Astute class. It protects our carrier fleets and hunts down Russia and Chinas nuclear subs before they launch nukes. There so quiet they follow our enemy’s without them knowing. So I’m completely satisfied withers my tax dollars go. Now go back to China or Russia troll.
As a former Sonar Technician I doubt very much that anything is outdated on these subs. There are many systems onboard that are key to the subs success like the Sonar System which are the eyes and wears of the sub while on patrol. If they are not mentioning it it is because it is very hush hush and effective. The biggest thing that guarantees success of subs on any mission is training and skills. This is one thing the silent service has in spades. Problems with the anechoic tiles is nothing new and relatively simple to correct. These subs are necessary to replace the ageing Los Angeles subs that have served us well for decades and are not a waste of money. There are few ship yards with the skills and tech to produce these subs so they MUST always be producing subs slowly or the country will lose this vital national asset. We are also producing subs for Australia.
@@Joeladgra When we can't even stop illegal immigrants from crossing our borders? When we have poor education systems? When we have a corrupt government? When we are over 15 Trillion in Debt? Wake up, sheep.
Ok unless you were born yesterday you would know that most military equipment/vehicles are built to last. I mean we're still using M1A2 Abrams and those things were first constructed in 1986.
If anyone commenting has ever served on a boat, they would know that these boats are awesome. And are a marked improvement on the older work houses, the iboats. Sure they had problems, but thats always the case when radical departure in form and function takes place. The successor boats will stand on the shoulders of these remarkable hunter killers.
First Accountability for everyone responsible for the fraud before taking a step forward. But that should have been known already. Biggest problem is lack of responsibility in today’s generation.
@@JohnSmith-sj2dk My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the TRUE emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
The navy’s top brass has got to wake up and get serious about the threats that the US may face in the near future. This means they have to pay attention to the submarine’s they are building.
The company that falsified the records should cover the cost of repairs and someone should do jail time. We can't keep giving these people a pass for stealing the taxpayer's money.
Love how the tile they use to advertise this video is the Sea View sub from the Movie and TV show "Voyage to the bottom of the Sea" So does it have lasers and electrify its hull to fight giant octopuses
missiles that break apart into more missiles, with antimissile missiles, and antisub/antitorpedo torpedoes... and/or swarm of drones to target responsible individuals selectively without risks to innocent bystanders... like that
dont forget the digging drone anti-underground bunker busting mining bot automation bombs for airforce and army- the slow but sure and inevitable, underground missiles that mine their way to the tagets, unmanned and with high yields- no matter how deep an enemy dig! (maybe 200 miles to international underground, lol)
The Atomic Submarine is a 1959 independently made, American black-and-white science-fiction film directed by Spencer Gordon Bennet[3] and starring Arthur Franz, Dick Foran, Brett Halsey, Joi Lansing and Jean Moorhead, with John Hilliard as the voice of the alien. The film was produced by Alex Gordon and distributed by Allied Artists Pictures Corporation.[4]
3:47 "The boat has a classic U.S. hull layout" *shows the bow section of a submarine leaving a construction building, the submarine shown is BRITISH, built by CAMMELL LAIRD SHIPBUILDERS in Birkenhead, England!
Perhaps the members of Congress and House of Representatives should pay for the cost overruns of the submarines out of their exorbitant salaries? Or give them the choice of finding the actual personnel responsible and making THEM pay?
In terms of salary, congress is not highly paid. I make more than any of them by far, and I'm not rich. Of course, I don't get any of the perks they get. Still, they got into congress because they were already rich; they didn't generally get rich because they got into congress.
The US is good for submarines, air Craft carriers and most supersonic missiles but way behind China about the moon rocket. It has been lunched so many times but it is still on the ground until today😆😆👎👎
I think that for our military, if anyone contractor provided less than standard material knowingly, that they should be executed as that mission from the military could’ve been the utmost of our national security.
but not for politicians and celebrity figures making it precedent? who should have the highest standard and responsibilty- logically of us all but our great leaders whom lead by example? youd think the ill-politic minded americans would be tired of hating each other, just the same by now, but not yet i guess. working class civilians, doing it right should agreeably get more bright a future, more rights, more incentives, and more finacial reward. not the sellout /psychologically sabatoging/ academic indoctrinators of our youth- the biggest enemy, the social atheist's communism by force club of our institutions anti-religious anti-moral majority , those always pushing american selfhate, selling racism and divisions, pure godlessness but answer only unto themselves, rebels against all convention thats good and fruitful, subliminal sponsers of unlimited unaccountabilty, criminality, and which is almost always backwards now, so full of self hate, blind loathing, and often pure evil. america needs to get back its heartfelt love of one another despite our diffrences- its strenghts and not its weakness, its mutual respect, love, and demand for civil ideals, of personal liberty, its revere for human rights, and the freedoms that once made us strong-the most strong, most ethical and fiercly brave, the one and only home to freedom called america. world needs you, back to your old self badly, before it caves to an unescapable and completely widespread global communist/dictator concentration camp of the east, and before its too late.
The claim that it's the first sub class not to need refueling is rather erroneous. It might be in the US , The UK nuclear subs have been fitted with Rolls Royce nuclear reactors that are fueled for life for decades.
Really? You keep comparing your reasoning for Seawolf light to the Russian navy, when the largest navy on Earth is Chinese, and they are allies? Don't embarrass yourself.
Columbia have barely begun construction and won't be in service for a few more years. VAs, however, are already active members of the fleet and have been for awhile.
Thats what I was thinking. Thay didn't mention that thou in the video 🤔 I think we should get a shout out and some dew respect. Britain can build anything world class. If only the government put its money were it's month is.
There seams to be a gap between submarines, submarine drones, the Soviet Caspian sea monster, and satellites. In terms of nuclear capabilities. Reality is probably stranger then fiction
The mind boggles on all of the money and personnel that governments spend on their armed forces. End of the day when it comes, is that more than likely it will be some sort of biohazard that kicks it off. After all if populations are simply being wiped out what was the point of having a massive amount of hardware. That all said the safest place would probably be in a Submarine so carry on.
Substandard contractors doesn't surprise me. I refueled a sub at Newport News. We had to allow a contractor to install a system because if we did it, then we were taking a civilian job. The unions worked at a snails pace and did not have the technical skills to do all the jobs. There were systems signed off on after failed attempts of installation by civilians, so that the naval crew could reinstall it correctly to move construction forward. Hence all the over budget out of schedule nuclear refuelings. So much cya by everyone involved, but it was only way anything would be completed.
Very sad. That's why the country need a good hard assed President and competent cabinet to face down and stop this kind of crap and lock up the crooks if necessary.
@@fredcarr3550 Conservatives are the dominant political force in the US. The conservative politicians have a long history of treason. Looting the defense budget via corruption is second nature to them. Their constituency turn a blind eye to it. They will help manufacture wars to fuel the corruption.
@@prioris55555 Not sure I agree with you on the US politicos starting of wars for profit. The European and arms merchants of Asia do a good job of that in Africa. However, the cost of armaments for the US could be reduced should the congressmen/ women etc. ensure manufacturing of same went to the most cost efficient companies in the country instead of simply placing business with their constituent manufacturers. Of course, the latter is easier said than done as elections roll around every 4 years.
@@fredcarr3550 good point vietnam, iraq and afghanistan were wars all started under false pretenses. these wars were acts of treason and crimes against humanity. the general public wouldn't agree. putins ukraine war was an act of treason and crimes against humanity but the russians wouldn't agree and still support him. insanity is embedded in the populations of this world.
Is the US Navy bringing back the ASW Viking S3B to hunt subs again? I always thought that getting rid of ASW was dumb just because " maybe" Russia was not a threat for a bit.
While the seawolf is a more capable deep ocean boat. The Virginias are very capable in the littorals. With the Chinese becoming the new primary threat to the navy, the east Chinese sea and the Yellow Sea are likely locations for future conflict. Both of those seas are shallow, which will play more in the favor of Virginia’s design characteristics. The Virginias are still very capable, there’s more nuance than is being described here.
The Jinping era of communist China got people thinking that PRC is a big emerging threat, but I think it has to be taken with a grain of salt. Under Obama we had the socalled pivot to asia, but the reality is that the whole time the USA was focused on the middle east and south asia (as usual), because the nations there have a history of being nuts. The backdrop to this is that the US is deployed across the whole globe. They can pivot anywhere at any time, on relatively short notice. In a matter of days amphibious assault ships could be at a chosen flash point, if the US was interested in it. Same cannot be said of Russia and PRC. The other aspect to remember is the economies and the populations. Russia and PRC are both in deep population decline, with no short term way out. Their economies are teetering on the verge of financial crises. PRC almost collapsed with the Evergrande crisis, narrowly avoided it. Contrast that to the American sphere, where the economies are strong, sucking in skilled workers from all over the world, and expanding/reshoring at a brisk pace.
@@lieshtmeiser5542 we can't even recruit enough competent people to keep up with all of this world police nonsense. Bottom line, whites should have never given the rest of the world white technology.
@@lieshtmeiser5542 true world getting hotter makes those around the middle a little more insane. not to mention the frozen anthrax spores in Siberian permafrost- the potential for a regular, periodic biological apacolypse event, waiting in the icecaps (additionally nerve wrecking) to thaw and revisit extinctinction on mankind mid every 100,000 year pole reversal cycle (equatorial landmass orientation)... or maybe longer per the mayan/shiva hyposthosis. who knows for sure?
atleast some research suggests high altitude EMP waves from nuclear space detonations (the ~20 seconds of radio static) may prove suffecient to deactivate biological weapon outbreaks on Earth, without lasting harm or permanant blindness to animals or humans on the ground, similar to the effects of UVC.
much preferable is the occasional space nuke emp germicidal fireworks show, than the possible biological weapons outbreak waiting in artic ice, to again extinct mankind. starting over sucks and population control is a fools errand, with our current human potential (deep space/time race) and so many other ongoing global risks to human continuity. PEACE
The Virginia class will do its job but the sea wolf sound like the perfect submarine as far as carrying armament so it is what it is and still do the job you got my vote Steve from Annapolis Maryland
