China's Car Exports to Russia Falter: "Tofu-Dreg" Vehicles Infuriate Russians 

When he says heavily influenced by Japanese and US designs doesn’t he mean China just stole the blueprints?

Chinese automaker, "We're not worried. Russians have no other options.". This mentality is what's wrong with Chinese products.

When cherry first opened in our country it became a hit because of its rock bottom prices. You don't see them anymore. Too many returned their units due to poor performance. If this happens to their car industry, their aviation industry is truly scary

We are thankful of our government for not allowing any Chinese automobile in India.

I am from the Russian Far East. A twenty years JDM is still better than the brand new Chinese crap. And it still repairable and holds value. Hell even a thirty year old Crown or Mark II is still better and can be restored abd resold. The Chinese ones are basically single use disposable item to be thrown away a year of use, two tops. There's no secondary market.

Chinese brand is well known for cheap quality. It is not stereotype.

I barely trusted my kids Chinese atv, I had to check every bolt on it and add loctite to keep it from falling apart. Almost every bolt was made from low quality pot metal. I would never be dumb enough to buy an entire Chinese car 😂

Chinese car brands were handed a golden opportunity in Russia to establish true dominance in the market. But they do what they always do - prioritize fast profits. They don't have an incentive to actually develop a loyal customer base. Chinese car makers are headed by officials approved by the CPP. As Chinese officials usually have very limited time to line their own pockets by diverting money and taking bribes, they do their best to exploit that short opportunity as much as they can. Long term considerations and quality have no place in that system.

I remember when Fiat tried to grow its Canadian market with a highly efficient front wheel drive sedan. They had absolutely no concept of how to prevent massive corrosion when the vehicle had to deal with harsh winters and lots of road salt. After two or three years they were literally falling apart and eventually the car was withdrawn from the market. To bad for ruzzians that purchased biodegradable Chinese cars.

The funniest complaint “ The interior smells like China”.😂😂😂😂

Even Russians are complaining about China's substandard practice. that Ally for you!

The Chinese are adaptable. In about 20 years, they will be on a par with a 1980 Lada.

China can't or won't make even the most simple to make products with decent quality. Anyone who believes it gets better the more money you give them is crazy

Still Japanese car is the best

Have had a Cherry Tiggo here in Thailand, after 5 year it was so bad that I sold it for 1$.

In the 1990s I worked for a South Korean corporation. One day a colleague said to me, with a lost look, "They did it." "Who? What?" "The Chinese. They hired an army of engineers and reverse engineered our XYZ product." Obviously, the quality and price were what you'd expect from a Chinese product - good enough for "friendly" countries.

No matter how hard you may try, you can't polish a turd.

These vehicles arent produced in Russia at all. They are shipped without wheels, which are put on the vehicle in Russia. As such they can say that they are built in Russia.

In the UK it's is illegal to use a mobile phone when driving,yet cars are using touch screens.Can't see how this is any different to using a phone.

10:50 - "looks like misunderstanding" is a literal and direct translation of Russian somewhat idiomatic expression which is a derivative/ euphemisation of "it's a mistake" (ошибка, oshibka), and it would be best translated as "it's a poor joke".

$43,000 dollars for a small Chinese car. Give me a Suburu that will last me 20 years for that.

You know things are really bad when a French automaker and Renault in particular is considered a brand that makes "reliable" cars.

It took Western carmakers decades to learn how to build real world cars, i.e. cars that are extensively tested to withstand all possible environments. Every Western model nowadays gets thousands kms testing in Nevada as well as in Finland.

My Chinese friend telling me that china cars have now surpassed our German cars and also Chinese EVs having surpassed Tesla‘s. I am highly skeptical of that.

I wouldn't trust anything of complexity being made in China, guns, jets, ships, road vehicles, I'd expect that they wouldn't have the longevity of properly developed technologies.

I’m an American man from the Oregon High Desert and the first thought I had about the Chinese cars operating in Russia was that the conditions are much harsher than the designers imagined and they’ll break down quickly. Back home we own either a quality front wheel drive for inner city driving and a 4 wheel drive truck with serious snow tires mounted for winter driving, to drive a 2 wheel drive pickup truck off road, even a little is foolish. But my home town is minor compared to the conditions in Russian winters, we don’t use road salts and the climate has very low humidity so our undercarriages and body panels last decades longer, we use crushed lava pumice red cinder instead of salt.

What do you expect ? It is made in China.

Rust proofing is one of the more expensive things in car manufacturing that cannot be done on the cheap and is invisible on a new car. It wouldn't surprise me if that's where Chinese manufacturers save first, especially using cheap third grade quality sheet steel with the rust already in the material when the car rolls off the production line. A car like that will last maybe 2 or 3 Russian winters before it's mostly just to rust.

This is pure Karma. Back in the late 90's Russia started exporting Lada vehicles. The cars were/are pure junk. I remember being in South Africa back in the early 2000s. My wife's brother just bought a Lada 4x4. After 1 day of driving the transfer case went out. Russian "technology".

Decades of driving Trabants and Yugos has given Russians unrealistic expectations for high quality. 🙄

Like anything from China its disposable 😅😂

The key to building a good business is continuously improving Quality. Claiming that consumer criticism is shaking the automaker down (blaming the consumer for poor quality), is a violation of the "consumer is always right" strategy. Toyota is the largest automaker because of its focus on quality, not because it undercuts competitors prices. China's Tofu-Dreg businesses (State Owned Enterprises) will survive only as long as they receive government subsidies.

I bought a Chinese car last year: one of the worst mistakes of my life.

Good luck with touchscreen controls in a car, when you have to drive in gloves in winter 😂

Chinese social ethos were formed during Maoist era famines and the Western concept of quality never penetrated there (unlike Japan where W. Edwards Deming is a national hero).

China's philosophy: make many and make it cheap. If they don't last long, they'll buy again because it's cheap.

Not even Chinese want to buy Chinese cars.

I don't know Chinese cars, because they are not yet being sold in my country, Portugal. But their motorcycles are being sold here, and i can testify their low quality. Rust just after a few months, losing bolts, parts missing from factory, mulfuncions, not even being able to start. They really not made to last. I can only imagine that their cars are also no good, they can show 5 star crash ratings, but that doesn't prove they are any good in terms of reliability and build quality.

Even people in 3rd world countries say China products are crap. They'd rather buy Japanese or Korean vehicles. The only thing China has invented that's still used today is the chopstick in it's original form. 😂

6:30 i solute these guys talking the truth about how the company feels about consumers . ALL companies are like that, if there is no competition they have absolutely no desire to improve anything

Imagine hearing "you're cut off from the market, so you have no choice but to settle with cars from us. We won't invest much work into making anything better, either." With friends like China, Russia doesn't need enemies.

as a person of Chinese descent, I would not be driving a China car

In India if anybody says its a "chinese product' it automatically means use and throw cheap junk

Producing cars without seatbelts; that's too bad.

Can confirm. Chinese steel sucks.

I spoke to a scope manufacturer about their Chinese products. They paid to keep one of their engineers in the country to stay on top of the manufacturing. The Chinese were capable of producing a high quality product, but without a supervisor with integrity, they would "substitute" materials, procedures, and QA.

Russian cars are the total opposite of China's. Many Russians struggle to afford a car and the roads aren't very good so they build their cars as durable and long lasting as possible. Many Russian cars from the 50s and 60s are still on the road.

Spot on. Chinese cars look like more as a cheap smartphone with a wheels rather than an automobile.

One look at China's military vehicles gives you a good idea about its cars ...

Well when you cant get the good sh*t, you are forced to buy total sh*t.

Westerners may like to laugh at Lada and other Russian brands, but those cars can take a beating and are designed to be repaired. I imagine the Russian consumers who have bought Chinese-designed cars either didn't know better (assuming they'd have similar durability) or literally couldn't get anything else because of the sudden withdrawal of western manufacturers. I bet that in another year or two when these 2022 cars start falling apart, the word will get out and sales of them will drop off steeply.

If it's made by a Chinese company, it's going to be full of shortcuts, facades, and corruption - equating to a terrible product.

That's what happens when a country has no sound ethics, and ha a bad reputtion for the lack of quality of the products they manufacture!

You don't wanna mess with Russia when it comes to car reliability. While their car isn't winning awards in terms of design or comfort, those utilitarian steel boxes WILL outlast any Chinese car, period. Their cars have a long history of being highly reliable and extremely robust. There are many Soviet-era cars from 60s to 80s that's still moving around

Many chinese cars after a few years are even rusting in Australia which is a dry climate.

The Chinese can make quality products when they have to, you probably watching this on a Chinese made laptop or tablet that is extremely well made, the problem comes when quality is not enforced or supervised by a western company when left to there own devices they are only interested in selling the item after that it’s not their problem.

Tofu dreggs cars 😂😂😂

Buy Japanese products for reliability. Buy Chinese products if you want to feel anger and deception.

My mate had a Chinese car, he regretted it every day, called it poorly made junk.

Are you effing kidding me? Chery is CLEARLY a knock off off Chevy... they can't even come up with an original name ffs

Very similar here in Greece, but with chinese motorbikes & scooters. They are cheap to buy new, but very difficult to sell them on the used market. Once you bought a chinese motorbike, you are basically married to it. The quality is in general low and the newer ones have many software problems. Spare parts are also rare and takes weeks until to they arrive.

chinese designed, russian built car? NO THANK YOU.

Man, if the RUSSIANS say that your cars are crap... run away..

Lol, the Logan. I'm from the country where it's manufactured. Parts and everything then shipped as CKD allover the world. A CKD car cannot be reliable. But it's cheap to repair cos of the design that requires easy assembly, less components, high availability of components and relatively low prices. It's the low prices of maintenance and repair that people mistake for reliability. After all it comes down to money. Sure a Prius is more reliable but when it does break, you have to hunt a sucker to buy it and it won't be a taxi driver, they are not stupid

GEELY OWNS VOLVO. SO SWEDEN GETTING IN CARS THROUGH BACK DOOR INTO RUSSIA VIA DIRECT IMPORT FROM CHINA.

Interesting as Russian cars have traditionally been cheap - the Lada and the Moskvitch, in particular. Thin metal, loose bolts, cheap tires. Russians got used to better quality western and Japanese vehicles. Now they have to go back to Russian quality.

I live in Indiana my car is a 91 Honda Accord, this thing still runs after 30 years

Junk cars for a junk country. It seems like a good fit to me. I do wonder how these cars handle when driving through boiling water. That is a peculiar Russian driving condition.

I did a Google-search, and found out that the reason cars don’t rust out the way they used to in the 1970s is because they use hot-dip-zinc baths on the steel as the steel is produced. The Chinese cars do not use this type of steel. Because of this type of galvanized-steel being used on cars in western countries, you do not get the rust that you would otherwise get if you used untreated steel.

If Russians have their own cars built to their own road driving standards, why are russians flocking to buy chinese cars and not their own? What happened to the so called almighty LADA russian car? Is it still stock in the 80s? 😅😅😊

I'd take a Russian car over a free Chinese car

You want to see rust, look at US manufactured vehicles after a few winters up north on salted roads The USSR produced the Trabant and Russia is complaining about quality 😂

When it is made in china .. You already knew but those chinese who are rich or have money they don't like made in china..i knew it because i saw it

China has a different doctrine. As cheap as possible. You get what you paid for. They could build great cars that would cost as much as a Toyota. But that market is sated. Russians with lower income need cheaper cars that have to be robust. Like Dacia or Ladas. China built cheap cars that don't live long.

China outright stole one Chery from General Motors during what was supposed to be a joint venture. The Chinese knockoff was so similar the doors were interchangeable.

Of course the Chinese products were not optimized for Russia's cold climate, but nonetheless, Russia has no alternative but to buy Chinese cars, and the Chinese probably will take over 50% of the market in short order. I am sure the old timers in Russia would greatly prefer their BMW and Mercedes vehicles, but the sanctions are making it hard to even get parts.

In summary china sold russia biodegradable cars. After 1 year, it would have rusted and blown off into the wind

You can try Indian brands. They're not fancy, but are tough as nails. Mahindra Thar, Suzuki Gypsy and Scorpio might be one example, plus because of the growing demand, Indian carmakers might upgrade their cars to survive Russian weather.

Does Russia salt its roads in winter? It that's the case, then cars for Russia need extensive corrosion-protection.

I am no expert and cannot say, but one of my favourite channels is Chinese Car Crash.. and wow.. do they have amazing car crashes.. the best in the world.. sorry Russia.... anyway, what happens to cars and the cab of semis is they seem to disintegrate,... just sheer off in every imaginable way, in every direction.. so I guess what they say about thin metal is true.

nobody asked you Ivan what car you prefer, you will drive a Chinese car and if you won't show love to Pukin you will drive an Iranian car

I guess Russians can always drive nivas and zhigulis if they would stop spending all that labour building tanks.

6:40 Those idiots highlight the problem. These Chinese brands don't comprehend the actual function their customers are looking for and don't comprehend that there are Russian car factories.

13:02 Euro 2 was introduced in 1995, not "in the 70s"

Ruzzians whining while transitioning to north korean living standards

Crappy product from the crappy country for another crappy country. I don’t see any problems.

The logan is a romanian Dacia model, designed and manufactured in Romania initially

Luckily the Russian Lada has always been a top quality brand.

I had a Geely - and both front doors started rusting. I do not live in Russia and we do not have snow on the roads where I live.

They’re all garbage but with different hate levels..

Chinesium cars...I couldn't imagine this going wrong

china does not have mild temperature lol, its +40°C summer in the southern coast and -40°C winter in northern regions. That being said, China does make crap cars that only last until the day warranty ends. We can make cars that last forever, but the market demands cars to be disposable underwear

Made in china 😅

Why though? The Niva Lada is peak engineering.

Your command of the English language is impressive.

Our toyota Fortuner 2010 is 14yrs old, hahaha

You buy Chinese junk you get junk.

If China can't make a decent automobile, what makes them think they can build a reliable rocket to go to the moon? 🚀

Are we really surprised?

Chinese cars are invading brazil's market. While the cars are new it's ok, let's see it in the future