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China's Mini EVs Are A Game-Changer & Going Global 

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China has a solution to the EV problem: Price! Electric cars are expensive in Europe but China is producing a wide range of cheap small electric cars and now they are going global! Will these mini-cars be just as big of a hit in Europe as they were domestically?
00:29 Peter Fintl, Director of Technology & Innovation Capgemini Engineering
00:47 Stefan Bratzel, Director Center of Automotive Management
01:01 Günther Schuh, Aachen University Professor
01:17 Johr Zhou, Dayun Auto
01:27 Small affordable EV's for Europe
01:47 Chinese EV's sold in Germany
01:57 Dayun ES 2
02:09 ZhiDou D2S
02:20 Wuling Hong Guang
02:29 BYD Seagull
02:35 Geely Panda Mini
02:42 The Chinese EV Market: Price Analysis
04:07 China vs Europe: Average Price of Electric Cars
06:31 European Car Manufacturers and Battery Costs
07:44 The Role of EU Regulations in Hindering Small EVs
09:56 Lars Stevenson, Elaris CEO
10:49 The EU's Costly Safety Regulations: A Barrier to Affordable E-Cars
12:00 The Time Factor: China's Entry into the European Market
12,58 Jens Schulz, Emil Frey Group
13:35 The Possibility of Chinese Carmakers Producing in Europe
14:10 Dieter Trzaska: A Pioneer in Importing Chinese E-Cars
REV - The Global Auto and Mobility Show from Deutsche Welle
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@datianlongan5567
@datianlongan5567 Год назад
Young people may not know that VW invented the Beatle, a practical, functional, and affordable "People's Car" that was sold & loved by millions around the world. Car companies nowadays only serve the rich with expensive models for greater profit. I hope China can succeed in making car affordable again for everybody.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
This is nonsense. Even in China, the appeal of small, mini-EVs is limited to densely populated, urban cities. China's problem here is that the battery tech the Chinese gov't is promoting and pushing for export is less energy efficient and heavier (and loses a lot of capacity in cold) strictly limiting its use to entry-level, low-range EVs.
@ecrush5080
@ecrush5080 Год назад
@@tooltalk maybe what he/she mean is "beatle"-ish / proper sized EV cars... like byd's seagull or wuling's bingo... etc, for me personally I was drooling toward Zeekr X.
@randomguy7175
@randomguy7175 Год назад
The govt wants to make cars unaffordable to poor.. they want to create 2 tier society.. the poor travel in public transport and rich in cars and planes..
@ij4674
@ij4674 Год назад
​@@tooltalk All those but more long lasting than the ones used in Tesla and other US and European carmakers. If an average German drives 40km a day, which is better? One that has a lower distance per charge but last longer or vice versa?
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
@@ij4674 >>All those but more long lasting than the ones used in
@namelesswarrior4760
@namelesswarrior4760 Год назад
As a proud Chinese, I'm very happy to watch and hear western programs giving genuinely high praises to China. Normally, the comments are genuinely nasty with or without basis.
@havencat9337
@havencat9337 Год назад
glad to see the rise of EV, better for the planet...better for our kids and any country that does this should be praised!
@lordlee6473
@lordlee6473 Год назад
Where did you see praises? This is DW. They smear the Chinese government and the CCP and then plug images of Chinese government and CCP in every video about China. You need to stop being naive. These are racist MFs.
@HTeo-og1lg
@HTeo-og1lg Год назад
The EU is not your friend. Truth be told, they are even more protectionist than the US, but more subtle and certainly more covertly. They are currently using China to give them time to catch up with China in EV production and sodium-ion (as opposed to lithium) technology. Same with the Tesla is also needing China's technology in battery because they started the research almost 5 years later than China in battery material and physical configuration. Tesla is buying BYD's Blade configuration. ps. I am not Chinese, but I have worked in China, and know how naïve the Chinese layman is because of the lack of access to the social media of the West such as RU-vid, Twitter, Instagram because your people have Douyin, Bilibili, etc.
@Darkmatter321
@Darkmatter321 Год назад
That's envy! Love Chinese people from Iran
@lijiang5600
@lijiang5600 Год назад
@@HTeo-og1lg If you believe a random collection of average Joes in any country is not "naive" of international affairs, you're joking youself. YT/Twitter/Insta is no better than Douyin/Bili, if not worse. We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow. -Lord Palmerston
@soowo5942
@soowo5942 Год назад
Smaller and affordable EVs are the answer to greener future.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
Smaller and affordable cars were always the answer to greener future, but never took off.
@johnsmith-cw3wo
@johnsmith-cw3wo Год назад
@@tooltalk small cars and public transport is for broke boys. 😂😂😂
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
@@johnsmith-cw3wo : of course, most of these Chinese mini EVs are literally death trap boxes.
@ianhomerpura8937
@ianhomerpura8937 Год назад
There’s another solution: ELECTRIC TRAINS.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
@@ianhomerpura8937 Just get a bike.
@holbrookmiddlefield4555
@holbrookmiddlefield4555 Год назад
$4K a EV! Count me in! I’ve always want a city car.
@TB-up4xi
@TB-up4xi Год назад
It's not happening the base model BYD dolphin is $13-14k US in China - Australia is a "cheap" market the same car is $27k US, that's 2/3rd's the price of a base Tesla model 3. None of the really cheap EVs can pass minimum safety standards.
@cinpeace353
@cinpeace353 Год назад
Seeing it as a catalyst of world improvement is a positive thinking. Tired of the mentally of can't do better than others, then calling others a threat instead of improving ourselves. 👍🏻💪🏻
@yoyomen8913
@yoyomen8913 Год назад
That's the american way..... glad u figure it out
@indiahindudeltaviruskillsi3781
China small or mini EV are so attractive in appearance, economical, environmentally friendly, & cost effective. Definitely get one when it's available
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Год назад
Expect politics to slap a 75% tarrif
@ssruiimxwaeeayezbbttirvorg9372
@@toyotaprius79 they rather w8 till you buy one, and then slam road tax on you, or tax for battery utilization, or just skyrocket electricity price, they will figure it out eventually.
@urimtefiki226
@urimtefiki226 Год назад
Me too.
@jimmywang7052
@jimmywang7052 Год назад
@@urimtefiki226maybeIcan help u soon
@infernoking7504
@infernoking7504 Год назад
It's the opposite of environmentally friendly
@1hjehje
@1hjehje Год назад
Here in Canada the government pays lip service to EVs, but not much else. If they were really serious about getting EVs on the road they would allow Chinese made small, inexpensive, and energy efficient vehicles into the market and focus their efforts on getting a charging infrastructure in place.
@TheKenzhang
@TheKenzhang Год назад
Canada is too cold to have a EV. in Northeastern china with winter like canada. EV is not an option
@LH1xx
@LH1xx Год назад
@@TheKenzhang Canada has many people driving EVs they never complain about the weather affecting their EVs but all of them are Tesla.
@KyleRuggles
@KyleRuggles Год назад
@@TheKenzhang Have you spoken to people in Canada who owns EV's?
@KyleRuggles
@KyleRuggles Год назад
@@LH1xx Agreed! There's TONS of EV's here. I'm guessing they're American and you know how they are, it's always too cold for anything. Given the state of the climate, I think Canada will be the destination for many Americans who are dealing with the heat, even though we're super hot up here lately.
@user-iy2ps7pg1h
@user-iy2ps7pg1h Год назад
@@TheKenzhang It's not cold in Canada. In winter, the coldest temperature in Ottawa is -14 degrees Celsius. You can't call it cold.
@LH1xx
@LH1xx Год назад
China not only has small EVs but also has a lot of big EVs.
@galaxycars2816
@galaxycars2816 Год назад
Love China for its approach to facilitate the world in cost effective manner and efficiency wise. China really deserves to be super power now. Love from Pakistan ❤
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
this is an expected response from Pakistan. LOL
@jonwick7635
@jonwick7635 Год назад
I want my next car to be Chinese EV, not BMW anymore. I hope they export Avatr 11 worldwide
@jianyang6281
@jianyang6281 Год назад
buy Zeeker 001, not Avatar 11.
@HamsterUcar
@HamsterUcar Год назад
我也非常喜欢这个车。我的下一辆车就准备买这个。超级智能
@javierlezama1094
@javierlezama1094 Год назад
Chinese EV, high quality, the best 👍🏼 🕊️🕊️🇨🇳🇨🇳🕊️🕊️
@SERGIO-cr6uy
@SERGIO-cr6uy Месяц назад
Yes, let's buy everything from China and let's lose our jobs...
@zchu3179
@zchu3179 Год назад
The chief editor of DW must be on summer vacation this week!😮
@duncankowable
@duncankowable Год назад
they will use this article to say it's proof that Scholz is pro China.
@crypticTV
@crypticTV Год назад
Yea DW has recently become very biased and untrustworthy
@markuc
@markuc Год назад
Lol. It does appear that way, doesn't it?!
@suhuaxu
@suhuaxu Год назад
突然说话正常了,我也不习惯,反复确认这是否是德国之声?
@hongyu-he
@hongyu-he Год назад
DW的中文版就像个精神病😂
@duolayang
@duolayang Год назад
Chinese auto companies not only make small electric cars, but also electric SUVs and EV MPVs EV Pickup trucks. Even manufacture electric engineering vehicles, such as EV mine car, EV ambulance, EV fire truck。In fact in order to reduce carbon emissions, we need to replace any kind of vehicle with electric vehicles, except tanks and armored vehicles。
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
as said in other comment, China's inferior LFP batteries doesn't allow that to happen. China needs to use South Korea's NMC or Japan's NCA to be able to sell mid/high EVs.
@duolayang
@duolayang Год назад
@@tooltalk so, Tesla do not need? VW do not need?
@DucaTech
@DucaTech Год назад
@@tooltalk Tesla uses CATL. LFP is proprietary technology of BYD. And no matter how you cut it, all the basic materials like Lithium mainly comes from Chinese firms. They have the lithium market cornered. So even if LG Chem or Panasonic makes battery, guess where they source their materials from ... China.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
@@DucaTech : >>Tesla uses CATL. > LFP is proprietary technology of BYD. ...> And no matter how you cut it, all the basic materials like Lithium mainly comes from Chinese firms.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
@@DucaTech >> So even if LG Chem or Panasonic makes battery, guess where they source their materials from ... China. ...
@unreliablenarrator6649
@unreliablenarrator6649 Год назад
It seems the EU will throw up significant barriers to importing small EV forcing manufacturers to build in Europe to participate. This will drive the cost up in Europe and ultimately limit competition.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
What's driving the cost of EVs globally is China's artificially propped up EV market demand. That in turn creates highly inflated demand for raw materials like lithium, which makes it very expensive for other EV/battery makers to build EVs. When China's last EV tax break/subsidies ended on Jan 1, 2023, the price of lithium collapsed by 75%.
@HamsterUcar
@HamsterUcar Год назад
@@tooltalk 锂价的暴跌是因为产能过剩,和纳电池的下线。纳电池成本只有锂电池的10%。虽然容量小点,但成本优势太明显。不太追求体积的场所都可以把锂电换掉
@fredfrond6148
@fredfrond6148 Год назад
While I agree that building plants in Germany will make car costs higher. You need the common man, whose family has to eat and be sheltered. So China should build some battery and 🚗 car factories.
@felipe1031
@felipe1031 Год назад
​@@tooltalkthat was the purpose of this report makes you believe that it is unfair the competition for this market bc the CCP was "subsidizing" the companies. Never referred to the hows. However, Europe subsidize most of his economic sector and here in the third we can't say anything despite the unfairness for example in agriculture. Europeans are hypocrites. Let the free market work, be serious.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
@@felipe1031 : Sure, I agree Europea's woke environmentalism and unrealistic regulatory goals set for automobile industry is partly to blame here. Also you can't forget the fact that this whole process of mining raw materials for batteries in the 3rd world countries are highly toxic and polluting, yet Europe is willing to turn a blind eye in the name of environmentalism. As long as it's not my backyard! Let Europeans pollute their air and land, clean after them.
@marcbachelet2322
@marcbachelet2322 Год назад
The temperature of some parts of the world has reached 43 degrees Celsius in this summer. Germany should take action before it's too late.
@dquzmanovic
@dquzmanovic Год назад
Carbon has nothing to do with that. In my country June was terrible cold with non-stop rain..
@crypticTV
@crypticTV Год назад
@@dquzmanovic You don't seem to understand climate change. Different parts of the world are effected differently so some areas become hotter while other areas actually become colder than they should be.
@JohnSmith-qk4rm
@JohnSmith-qk4rm Год назад
Stop making driving complicate, just keep it simple. What a driver acctrually need are 4 wheels, a sit, a gas pedal and some proper designed and well working breaks. Nothing more!
@user-hf5oy5zw3h
@user-hf5oy5zw3h Год назад
Complicate means more money and profit. While In most cases it's useless to be complicated
@TB-up4xi
@TB-up4xi Год назад
Citroen 2CV !...oh wait... working brakes...never mind.
@brockabaddy985
@brockabaddy985 5 месяцев назад
Exactly! Govts over-complicate in the name of protection to the point that people can't exercise discretion. That's dumbing people down and wresting responsibility away from people.
@RosenIvanovPetkov
@RosenIvanovPetkov Год назад
The cars in China are almost two times cheaper than those in Europe this outrageous
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
Sure, it costs less not only b/c of cheaper labor, but also substantially cheaper energy cost which comes from burning coals -- ie, more global warming.
@yongjie1982jiang
@yongjie1982jiang 5 месяцев назад
Nope. They share the price in China.
@songnianzhang366
@songnianzhang366 Год назад
If this program is a criticism for China, the views must be huge!
@markuc
@markuc Год назад
But it doesn't mean people don't watch it. It starts with the objective and open minded people, thought leaders.
@tamayaytam
@tamayaytam Год назад
Of which aspect of china has to be criticized.
@1943stone
@1943stone Год назад
@@tamayaytam skin color
@Mingxuan1997
@Mingxuan1997 Год назад
😂My family have one Mini EV and another oil car. Mini EV is super cheap (in every sides, electribity bill is much cheaper than oil, maintenance fee)and easy to park. Now it is more popular than oil car in my family
@nukiolbartes6279
@nukiolbartes6279 Год назад
German car companies prioritize focus on brand value (design, marketing, promises, potential) aimed at investor not product value for consumer.
@tanyam2701
@tanyam2701 Год назад
Here is the summary: Small electric vehicles are currently unavailable in Europe. They are made well in China. The only way to get them is to import them. That's the process I'm currently going through.
@jwhard2385
@jwhard2385 Год назад
The watch makers in Swiss took heavy hit when Japanese introduced digital watch. With right product differentiation strategies they are still making billions and billions every year.
@MrGanbat84
@MrGanbat84 Год назад
Thank you China 🎉❤
@guanzehuang9609
@guanzehuang9609 Год назад
As a Chinese I am very happy to hear or see such news that the chinese EV will be sold in EU. On the other hand I hope also VW can provide the more convincible and affordable product to the market to meet the demand of customer. As a Chines living in DE I need to buy a new car maybe in 3-5 years. I would like to support the local OEM🙂. Hopefully VW doesn't disappoint me!
@DWREV
@DWREV Год назад
Interesting perspective .. Thank you! Which VW do you like the most?
@HanonInstruments
@HanonInstruments Год назад
@@DWREV i bought tuguan l rline this January. i watched id4, zeekr001, q5l, byd tang. finally I chose vw tuguan l. 235000rmb after tax. all bcz my wife doesn't want to buy ev.old idea about safety. I prefer byd tang actually
@nishant4262
@nishant4262 Год назад
How do you run YT bro?!
@TB-up4xi
@TB-up4xi Год назад
Many Chinese brands are already sold in the Nordic countries, unfortunately they are struggling so far.
@AB-yt4hd
@AB-yt4hd Месяц назад
@@TB-up4xi In France, the best selling Chinese brand is MG and is selling well for a young brand in the market. I had a MG ZS 2 and now a MG4 and I like this MG4, it is not perfect, but still nice (very nice handling, propulsion, more than enough power, nice confort, nice fit and finish, not that expensive compared to other brands). When I bought it, it was the only brand that had a compact car for less than 30000 euros (it might have changed, but I didn't check).
@ILOVEBACONBOY2018
@ILOVEBACONBOY2018 Год назад
did you know china is making these vehicles and then just abandoning them in a field saying they are selling a lot...
@cashliang4100
@cashliang4100 Год назад
Actually not only small ones but also some high class premium ev cars produced in China. It’s fierce competition on going now in China within Chinese car brands.
@vchanpe1
@vchanpe1 Год назад
As long as it is structurally safe in a accident, it makes sense for people who simply need basic transportation. Revision: I was informed the mini EV max speed is about 30 mph. Make sense since a crash at 65 mph in these tiny EV looks fatal. OK for city driving only. I would feel unsafe driving a tiny EV at 65 mph.
@zhz123
@zhz123 Год назад
Great documentary but the absence of Chinas largest electric car maker BYD and its push to manufacture in Europe is somewhat surprising...
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
BYD's EU sales isn't that great so far -- no Chinese EV brand exceeds 1% of the EU market share.
@kl3nd4thu
@kl3nd4thu Год назад
Munro was hinting at the Chinese domination of the EV market. He was discussing how slow the big, established manufacturers are responding to the change. Let's see if GM and Ford can adapt to this new EV landscape.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Год назад
I'd rather see them crash, executives reprimanded, and the structure be worker ran and owned as a proper American business should be
@sixtogonzaga655
@sixtogonzaga655 Год назад
Yes those cars are really popular in my country! Almost everyone is buying one and its cheap also environment friendly! China helps people shift to EV easier and solve environment problems one step at a time
@mrj428
@mrj428 Год назад
you can get a same EV for half of the price in China, I think EU put too much tax on the import Chinese EV. But on the other hand, China also put a lot tax on the luxury cars to double their price.
@brandonhinojosa4202
@brandonhinojosa4202 Год назад
I want a Chinese EV!
@brandonhinojosa4202
@brandonhinojosa4202 Год назад
Oh wait, I read on NYT that they are committing a genocide so now we need to resume our previous policy of replacing PRC with the ROC😊
@peggy_tan
@peggy_tan Год назад
Me too. Here in Taiwan our government won't let us buy them...😢
@angus7278
@angus7278 Год назад
The emphasis still needs to be on public transport. Smaller cars take less space than big one obviously, but the traffic problems in big cities will remain.
@adanphu4325
@adanphu4325 Год назад
I really love DW. So honest and peaceful. Better than respectful. Straightforward and ~0 lies
@crypticTV
@crypticTV Год назад
A pleasant change with an actually objective report DW has recently become very biased and untrustworthy
@uhu597
@uhu597 Год назад
I was thinking about the same thing.
@tedwong7037
@tedwong7037 Год назад
When china has progress on one product, it makes it affordable for general public. First tv, then phones, now cars, in the future china will make more affordable boats and planes to lift the living standard of all human.
@ayni2723
@ayni2723 Год назад
Chinese EV, high quality. 💪🏼👍🏼
@hi4806
@hi4806 Год назад
🎉A small and affordable electric car
@John-yx6yz
@John-yx6yz Месяц назад
I recently found out that although China subsidizes it's electric vehicle manufacturers, the US gives out several fold more to it's manufacturers. As an example, BYD got $3.7billion while Tesla got $34billion. Every report will state that China helps it's manufacturers but no western report ever discloses whether they do as well and to what extent. That's either shabby reporting or plain deceitful.
@DWREV
@DWREV Месяц назад
Thanks for commenting! Make sure you watch our latest reports explaining the tariffs the US announced and explaining government subsidies.
@michaelleong100
@michaelleong100 Год назад
EVs no matter the range is most suitable for inner urban driving....which is almost 90% of the time.
@victorsvoice7978
@victorsvoice7978 Год назад
There are two reasons why Chinese small affordable cars are not available in the West. Greed by governments and the legacy automakers. Oil taxes and big cars big profits.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
>> There are two reasons why Chinese small affordable cars are not available in the West
@user-nf7og9bg6b
@user-nf7og9bg6b Год назад
if the joint ventures are a thing in China, why can't the Europe company start joint ventures with Chinese company in Europe to catch up with Chinese electric car?
@AB-yt4hd
@AB-yt4hd Месяц назад
It is what they are doing (see VW, Stellantis, Renault...)
@uktruecrime
@uktruecrime Год назад
I having been saying this for year. Small cars make total sense. yet drive around London, all electric cars are big suv types. Makes no sense. they take up more parking space and road space, causing congestion etc. I would love a car that cost £5,000 or less.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
the fatality rates in small cars are much higher. not too many want to trade safety for affordabiltiy.
@lakshdeepbharti7311
@lakshdeepbharti7311 Год назад
EU regulations are Superb, although they increase price of the car but they prefer saftey which is superb, as Life is priceless
@Ag3nt0fCha0s
@Ag3nt0fCha0s Год назад
Valid point
@joneyu655
@joneyu655 Год назад
The Wuling Hongguang mini is only a few thousand dollars, and its endurance power is very strong. The main reason is that there are car Charging station everywhere in China, and this basic facility is almost rare in Europe and the United States. In addition, Byd is the world's largest electric vehicle manufacturer, and electric buses are almost all over the world. China is an actor, while Europe and the United States only rely on words.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
>> The Wuling Hongguang mini is only a few thousand dollars, and its endurance power is very strong. ...
@markuc
@markuc Год назад
​@@tooltalkwell is it safer than a moped or motorcycle?
@FryanHere
@FryanHere Год назад
In Indonesia, Chinese Wuling air ev is the #1 sold and most affordable ev car
@madl99
@madl99 Год назад
Wuling memang jos
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
EV sales in ASEAN are too small.
@FryanHere
@FryanHere Год назад
@tooltalk maybe for now, but these EV car companies think about the long-term game plan. They lay ground their ecosystem require for their specific needs such as charging stations, etc.
@95Dap8
@95Dap8 Год назад
Too bad that they are not available in Canada😢
@dineshgamage6308
@dineshgamage6308 4 месяца назад
I don't understand why DW News is promoting Chinese vehicles extensively in most of their recent clips, while simultaneously criticizing German manufacturers. May be they are being bribed
@albertteng1191
@albertteng1191 Год назад
Asia is shifting faster into electric cars faster than europe. US is lagging way behind. Here in the phils, I use an e-scooter for short distances. Used to have top speed of 30kph now new ones can go up to 120kph and 200km range and only cost $500. Most deliveries are made with small e-delivery vans that can carry 300-500kilos. Public transportation now have e-trikes that can carry 6-8passengers. Its like an electric tuktuks but a little bigger. Downside to electric vehicle is charging time. Takes so long to charge 6-8hrs. For rich people here, they buy european e-cars most of them german cars like audi, mercedez, bmws and porsches But theyre so so so so expensive
@stevenk1468
@stevenk1468 Год назад
The average price of e-bike in Germany is around 4000 dollars with a speed limit of 20 or 25kph. Most of the people consider bikes as a sport/ leasure product.
@fhs7838
@fhs7838 Год назад
The reason why China has such cheap cars because of very low (outdated) mandatory national standard for crashworthiness (Only 50kph front 100% crash test). After mid 2020s, China will mandatory side crash test for all small passenger vehicles. Thus lots of cheap cars (especially vans) will no longer available on the market.
@patrickkaiserliew3691
@patrickkaiserliew3691 Год назад
In terms of production costs China is above the Europeans. Only due to strict EU regulations that hinder the onslaught of competition from Chinese marques in the automobile industry. Or else lots of big European marques will be hard hit in terms of competition because of their high production costs.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
>> Only due to strict EU regulations that hinder the onslaught of competition from Chinese marques in the automobile industry.
@ChinaSongsCollection
@ChinaSongsCollection Год назад
​@tooltalk No, that's not true. China DID NOT hinder foreign battery companies from overtaking the Chinese market. They NEVER did, and still do NOT. And you know that! You should provide proof if you insist on making accusations.
@user-hc5cg3jc3i
@user-hc5cg3jc3i Год назад
@@tooltalk Are you here to be funny? Is that gonna turn things upside down? When China started developing electric cars 20 years ago, did you in Europe? And what battery companies in Europe can compete? What electric vehicle or electric vehicle brand companies and battery companies existed in Europe 20 years ago? When will Europe be able to compete with China for electric car and battery brands? On the European electric vehicles in China technology and supply chain parts production and manufacturing help to achieve, European electric vehicles are basically made in China😂
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
@@user-hc5cg3jc3i :>>When China started developing electric cars 20 years ago, ...
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
@@ChinaSongsCollection >> China DID NOT hinder foreign battery companies from overtaking the Chinese market.
@DWREV
@DWREV Год назад
Is China also taking over the European market with its small electric cars? Or are VW and Co finally waking up? WHAT DO YOU think??
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 Год назад
One look at the current car market in Europe speaks volumes of how unprepared the competition and business logic is to electrification. Profit begets problems, and inflation
@MrSensible2
@MrSensible2 11 месяцев назад
I 100% agree with the sentiments expressed in this video. Simply put, I definitely WILL buy a small EV for £10,000 & I definitely WON'T buy a large EV for £30,000+! If BYD bring the new Seagull to the UK & slap a £10k price sticker on it, I'll be first in the queue to buy one. As the world (but thankfully not the UK) bakes in record heat, we absolutely need to go green BUT NOT AT ANY PRICE. It has to be affordable. The Chinese understand this, already have products ready to ship & we in the west should buy their cheap EVs..
@SteveLee-rm4zx
@SteveLee-rm4zx 11 месяцев назад
China's the only country that help the lower income earners able to own what is not affordable if produced by other nations. The poor can now own and enjoy what were once unavailable to them and were at the mercy of the rich nations.
@nieruidong
@nieruidong Год назад
ID3 are already dropped to around 15000 EUR here in China.
@simpolang
@simpolang Год назад
Cheap????? Affordable??? Thats the US's worst nightmare....😅
@samwaymachinery
@samwaymachinery Год назад
Volkswagen ID3 is selling for 16000 EURO in China ! German Car actually can be very very competitive !
@giacintoboccia9386
@giacintoboccia9386 Год назад
The europena car maker didn't take e-cars seriously for 40 years, while making billions of profits, now they should invest and try to stay competitive.
@johnsmith-cw3wo
@johnsmith-cw3wo Год назад
why do that when you can just lie about emissions and get out of prison ?
@nikhilghag6087
@nikhilghag6087 Год назад
As a last end mobility solution, it is very wrong to think of small car in region like Europe. Alternative solution is to improve the quality of public transport for daily use, change in residential and commercial building plan so that people do not need a personal vehicle, better distribution networks so that people do not need a car for daily needs such as markets (deliver things to home with electric vans. It already happens in china/ Asia) and promoting healthier no carbon traditional solutions of cycling for last mile solution. Cars will not solve the problems of today… they still solve problems those existed until 1990s in Europe. Think different.
@SkyrimCZtutorials
@SkyrimCZtutorials Год назад
So basically national socialism.
@ruichen123
@ruichen123 Год назад
China has shared bike system for people to go between bus stops and subway stations. At my hometown Liuzhou, where the Wulin Mini EVs are produced, they also have shared EVs for daily rental. Meanwhile, buses are still doing their jobs are they suppose to. The EVs and shared bikes just fill in the gaps.
@Ag3nt0fCha0s
@Ag3nt0fCha0s Год назад
Holy shoes, wanted to say this and glad I scrolled this far to find it so I could agree instead.
@ryannatividad3137
@ryannatividad3137 10 месяцев назад
Agreed, I don't love the trend of mega-sized and high-priced EVs (and cars generally) in western markets, but when you get to a certain level of local mobility...most people really should be walking, biking, taking public transit, etc. rather than driving a car in the first place. I would much rather take quality non-driving alternatives than have to drive these types of little EVs and have only basic features, relatively poor driving dynamics, and still have to deal with the urban driving annoyances such as parking in cities. Unlike the US and Canada, the EU has been making more serious strides in offering viable mobility alternatives to urban driving. If I am going to need a car, I would rather have it be a comfortable highway cruiser and semi-enjoyable to drive. Cars like the upcoming VW ID.2 are my personal ideal from a size, power, feature, and aesthetic preference. And if I can't afford and don't need a car...I'd rather not have to own and pay for one at all if there are better alternatives.
@ryannatividad3137
@ryannatividad3137 10 месяцев назад
@@ruichen123 Nice to hear, how many of the mini EVs such as the Wulin would you say of their sales are personal vehicles vs. public car share vehicles?
@amirmay398
@amirmay398 Год назад
Go China💪 we need cheap electric cars
@tooltalk
@tooltalk 11 месяцев назад
When China stops manipulating EV battery supply-chain, EVs would get cheaper.
@gold9994
@gold9994 Год назад
5:50 how to make the chart look better. The background is of no use, so it's fine to put the price under the percentage. Bring more contrast to the color, same scheme different brightness (make the darkest brighter and the brightest even brighter) Title should be: Prices of ... in EU
@UnknownHdbch
@UnknownHdbch 4 месяца назад
That’s a great news for our environment
@NuaimBKamal
@NuaimBKamal 5 месяцев назад
Interesting video. But your color choice for pie chart need improvement. One will simply be confused in differentiating light blue, blue, dark blue and very dark blue.
@ThePilotGear
@ThePilotGear Год назад
we should be able to do this in Canada. And we never will, sadly.
@ssruiimxwaeeayezbbttirvorg9372
How about crash tests and self-igniting batteries?
@teoengchin
@teoengchin 10 месяцев назад
The electric VW ID3 price in China is only around 17k euro
@adanphu4325
@adanphu4325 Год назад
Very cute design.
@allgoo196
@allgoo196 3 месяца назад
It seems to me the right direction. They must have gotten idea from kei-car(and Nissan Sakura) popularity.
@elmersbalm5219
@elmersbalm5219 Год назад
Nice to see respectful analysis. We are in competition with China and the US but we don’t need demagoguery to push european interests.
@javierlezama1094
@javierlezama1094 Год назад
🕊️🕊️🇨🇳🇨🇳🕊️🕊️ 💪🏼💪🏼 👍🏼👍🏼
@seventian6117
@seventian6117 Год назад
Surprise Lada sell in German. Sounds like EU car industry block the small EV market because they don't have battery manufactory and don't want to under cut their vested car market.
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 Год назад
Is it safe?
@scottw4208
@scottw4208 Год назад
I want one!!!❤️❤️❤️
@willeisinga2089
@willeisinga2089 Год назад
Made in China is our only Hope. Support China ❤
@mohiuddinahmad1792
@mohiuddinahmad1792 5 месяцев назад
Nice review ❤❤
@DWREV
@DWREV 5 месяцев назад
Glad you like it. Please pass it on to a friend!
@mipmipmipmipmip
@mipmipmipmipmip 4 месяца назад
​@@DWREV who sponsors you?
@DWREV
@DWREV 4 месяца назад
We are funded by the German government.
@Ephmral
@Ephmral 11 месяцев назад
Problem is Chinese ev cars tend to set on fire, and be hard to put out
@arejaysee
@arejaysee 10 месяцев назад
And so are Teslas
@karanmadan1048
@karanmadan1048 Год назад
27Kw-35Kw AC or DC? Business premises of nearly 4000sq.ft have a 10Kw electricity load from grid,max 20Kw.
@leanlifer
@leanlifer Год назад
Those tiny cars have small batteries with capacities like 13 to 25kWh. You can easily charge them with 1kW or 2kW home power plug. Usually the max they can take from AC is 3.5kW. A few models like Geely panda can do around 30kW fast charging in DC mode.
@jingzhi2898
@jingzhi2898 Год назад
電気自動車自動化の完全自由化は民主化の本質である
@ty23mb48
@ty23mb48 Год назад
중국인! 민주화가뭔질아니?
@gr8bkset-524
@gr8bkset-524 Год назад
A typical car sits unused 23 hours (96%) of a day and when in use averages 1.5 occupants. We have the capability with scheduling software to enable cars to be used more hours of a day by sharing and, when in use to carry more occupants via carpool. Instead of individually owned cars, we can be served by a pool of vehicles, probably at one third or one quarter the number of vehicles. More time may be required for carpool stops, but that may be offset by less traffic and less stress. The TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) of a car in the US is $10K per year, but with sharing, it can be as low as $1K.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
Just use public transportation.
@TB-up4xi
@TB-up4xi Год назад
Heard this before - people want to make 90% of personal trips (non trade / sales etc) at the same time on the same days hence why we have morning and afternoon peak hours. You miss the whole point of private car ownership - it's having a device that is at arms length that can take you wherever you want to go, whenever you want, and with whomever you want even if it sits idle 23 of 24 hours a day...that's irrelevant. We already have a pool of vehicles for people who want to vehicle share - they are called Buses, Taxis and Ubers and if you want to drive yourself Australia has a hire by the hour "Go-Get" car facility (like electric bike hire) which I think most countries have as well. People like private cars, there are already a ton of ways to reduce cost of ownership but people don't want to use them en-masse. Sharing car ownership like this is no different to catching a 5 seater bus - no thanks.
@anaskhoiri3653
@anaskhoiri3653 Год назад
In Indonesia still $14000-$21000 Car still Expensive in my country Even Small Car without Electronics and AC still $8100
@mariaannainditahernawati7132
mungkin pajaknya tinggi krn lobby dr pihak otomotif spt jepang korsel dan tiongkok yg sdh buka pabriknya disini - dg produk pake bbm kalo saya baca sih harga mini ev car di eropa harganya dr euro 10.000 keatas - yg di video mungkin yg versi sederhana yg nggak perlu ac atau dashbord mentereng lbh murah drpd produk ev merk eropa yg diatas 30 ribu euro
@DWREV
@DWREV Год назад
Do Car makers in Germany make driving too complcated nowadays? Should the keep it "more simple" and (with it) more affordable?
@patrickpieri8108
@patrickpieri8108 Год назад
Any possibility to watch crash tests on these automobiles ?
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
They probably don't exist since it doesn't qualify as a vehicle on most developed countries.
@pauldannelachica2388
@pauldannelachica2388 Год назад
Yes
@richardmakiya7188
@richardmakiya7188 Год назад
Con la electromocion, deberíamos de empezar a pensar las ciudades hechas paras las personas, no para los autos. Cómo primera medida, establecer límites de peso de los vehículos urbanos, como por ejemplo, que no superen los 400kg
@franciscoveiga8263
@franciscoveiga8263 2 месяца назад
There is one european brand that already sells cheap electric cars, Citroen has the AMI for less than 10000€ and the e-C3 for less than 25000€.
@hishamg
@hishamg Год назад
The new Renault 5e and Citroen E-C3 are due next year, they should be relatively affordable small EVs. I like the look of Renault 5.
@joaquimbarbosa896
@joaquimbarbosa896 Год назад
Also citroen ami and dacia spring already out and selling a lot. VW will also have their own cheap EV's from VW and skoda brands
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
@@joaquimbarbosa896 : Isn't Dacia made in China?
@benartee9493
@benartee9493 9 месяцев назад
@@tooltalkcorrect. The Dacia Spring is coming straight from China. As are the electric Mini, the new smart.
@garethxue8938
@garethxue8938 Год назад
China also makes big EVs, I. e. electric buses
@janrendek
@janrendek Год назад
Look like “cars” from the movie Idiocracy
@DWREV
@DWREV Год назад
😁
@frankthetank2637
@frankthetank2637 2 месяца назад
The USA is not ready for all electric cars yet. Small cars are great but gas engines are still the best way to go.
@dickiewongtk
@dickiewongtk 4 месяца назад
What about micro ev like the microlino and ami?
@AB-yt4hd
@AB-yt4hd Месяц назад
The AMI is selling well and the microlino is crazy expensive for what it is.
@williamwatitwa3534
@williamwatitwa3534 Год назад
I would buy thay white vw any day, they look timeless
@elimlinrr6898
@elimlinrr6898 11 месяцев назад
Imagine going through the streets of major cities in Asia and being able to enjoy a smoke free environment currently emitted by motorbikes, tuk tuks etc.
@AndoniF
@AndoniF Год назад
Not only small ones.. China will bring all the range of cars. European carmaker they will just follow the latest regulations. But in 2035 will be already late for them.
@tooltalk
@tooltalk Год назад
>> China will bring all the range of cars. ...
@thevindictive6145
@thevindictive6145 Год назад
Never thought i will see the day when europe cant compete with chinese production efficiency. I mean Bangladesh yes, Europe 😱
@user-un9lx4kp6u
@user-un9lx4kp6u 4 месяца назад
There is one EV that can bridge the gap between smog filled skies and the clean air goal. It's the Geely Panda Mini EV. It can reach 62 mph if the specs are to be believed. Even if it only hits 55, it would be perfect for the daily commute of a large percentage of people in the US. This is the car whose performance numbers I seek to replicate in my Fiat 500 when I convert it. It's laughable that the governments and businesses of Western countries expect their citizens to pay more for something than is reasonable. It's good for tax revenue and helps to oppress the people who are stupid enough to fall in line. The trouble is that most westerners do jump in line to get the next big thing. By the time I might convert my Fiat, there may be a very good deal on a used EV because many people only keep their cars for 3 years.
@user-xu4zb4gj2m
@user-xu4zb4gj2m Год назад
In China, German fuel cars are classified as top brands, but German electric cars are simply classified as "other brands."
@toucancheney9091
@toucancheney9091 Год назад
Hope the Chinese has built pattern barrier for battery so that whose western car makers have to work harder and earn lese
@passby8070
@passby8070 Год назад
if bicycle a allowed to be ride on the road without any sort of protection other than the rider's helmet, small electric cars with basic safety features like air bags should also be allowed.
@klaushoegerl1187
@klaushoegerl1187 Год назад
Technically and legally speeking, simply compare to the wellknown Ape trikes. Model 200 comes with a max. speed of 61 km/h and is even allowed to drive on German Autobahn. Will not survive any crash test. No ABS or airbag. However, no original EV ape available here, but e.g. for the Indian market. To be more realistic, such an EV would be well suited for small towns without regular public transport.
@michaeljones825
@michaeljones825 Год назад
Small e cars that are built for a specific purpose shouldn't need all the bells and whistles, that a family car might need. EU bureaucracy is at work, giving jobs for the boys. New cars that could be bought for around €10k would be considered even by sceptics like myself, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon. So I just watch and smile
@Pyjamarama11
@Pyjamarama11 Год назад
For decades we've been told "in the future we will all be driving around in micro-cars" and yet here we are in 3000kg behemoths Such a tired story line
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