Chinese and Indian Science - How Advanced? | Lecture 8: "Science and Society" Series 

Sir for your kind attention zero was invented by Arya Bhatt in India please update yourself

in professors lecture video , atleast 80 to 90 % viewers are indian including me , thats shows scientific temperament in Pakistan society itself ,

Sir, Namaste from India. Just wanted to thank you for conducting these lectures. We all know you are not just doing it for the people who are sitting in front of you but for entire human kind. And I would also like to thank you for the medium of the lectures, whereby, people from my country can also be enriched with your knowledge. Thank you, keep up the good work. The world needs more professors, gurus ustads like you. God bless. Jai Hind

Every culture made its contribution, include significant contribution by India in pure mathematics.

How come the class room is not packed 🤔🤔.. Imagine what will happen to the class in India if a personality like Pervez Hoodboy comes for lecture.. That itself shows the condition of science and maths in Pakistan

Besides Nalanda there was Takshila which was located in present day Pakistan. There were many others large teaching centers in many parts of India. .He did not mention about the medical works of Sasruta. He did not mention about town planning, sewerage system , measuring scales and standardization in the Harappan Civilization. Ancient Indian astronomical discoveries are not mentioned.

I can understand why pervez sir facing unpopularity in Pak due to his realstic approch of historical knowledge its very tuff job in radical Pakistan 👍👍👍👍🙏🙏

Indian civilization was way way ahead in thinking Very scientific

Dear Prof Dr Sahab, We appreciate your efforts to promote science in a society with blind religious beliefs. It’s obvious from the number of attendees for such important subjects from Dr Parvez Hoodbhoy 🤔 Pathetic condition of education in Pakistan 🤦🏻

ये महात्मा पूरी दुनिया के हैं. हमारे भी हैं. जय हो संत हूदभोय. गलत मुल्क में जन्मी एक सही आत्मा

57:00 I do not know whether trials are conducted in Pakistan. But In India, any new Ayurvedic medicine has to undergo the same clinical trial as other medicines. Medicines that are proposed by renowned Ayurvedic texts have some relaxation in trials but are tested. So any approved Ayurved medicine of India is well-tested. We found side effects of Johanson and Johanson powder, we found that some European covid vaccine was not properly tested.. but the power of Ayurvedic medicines comes from hundreds of years of ancient testing and revalidation in modern time. I had faced severe eye problems, which no AIIMs doctor could solve but Ayurveda did. Ayurveda is not fit for emergencies, which everyone knows and accepts but most health problems are long-term in real life. For life style problems Ayurveda is best system of earth. The problem in Pakistan is not Ayurveda but the lack of proper practitioners.

Rhinoplasty was first conducted in India and this is recorded history. Other than that the first case of surgery was also in India and was done by a sage known as sushrutha and all of the cures and surgeries conducted has been recorded in ancient text known as Sushruta Samhita. Apart from that the instruments used pretty much similar to that of today.

Namaste sir, INDIA ka jo NALANDA UNIVERSITY tha usme about 10,000 students with hostel from different countries and about 1,500 teachers with more than 3,00,000 books tha .And usme admission ke liye tough verbal exam hota tha.And ARYABHATA told first that THE EARTH moved with example.

Overall Mr Parvez has tried his best 👌 to uplift Pakistanis by educating and enlightening them with Maths and Science.

Take a look into a book "Surya Siddhant" to get an insight of Indian Science History 👍

The word trigonometry is itself taken from Sanskrit 🤣🤣🤣

Very rational person which I listen 👂🙏🏻 respect prof.

Its clear you have scant info on complex subjects such as history of mathematics, Hindu works were reaching Arabs much before AlBiruni, and how can any discussion of Indian mathematics preclude Brahmagupta whose works were very influential among Arabs and laid the foundation of many of their 'achivements'.

The whole Astronomy is from Hindus - Surya Sidhanta was translated into Sindhhind during reign of Al Mansur. We now have net and all information is available - just need curiosity to explore and know the truth to unravel the secrets of past.

Sir you look quite impressed by Madhava then I would highly recommend you to check Ramanujan’s work as well, you will be pretty amazed by that because I still wonder how the sum of infinite term is equals to : -1/12. To check out the video you can just search on RU-vid - Ramanujan’s infinite sum And you can take the credit of these mathematicians as well because at that time India and Pakistan was united.

Prof Hoodboy, you lack knowledge about Indian Mathematicians & their work, probably due to ignorance or its deliberate. Please watch lectures IIT prof Ramasubramaniyam & TIFR prof Divakaran. You'll be enlightened enough and will do well for fellow pakistanis

I admire Pervez Sir, but didn't expect so low research on Indian contribution. However it was good information about China's contribution.

Mad respect to honorable prof saab.. Your work is like an oasis in the desert..

Wonderful opportunity to learn from this giant scholar.

Geography = Bhugol Bhu = Land, Gol = Round/Sphere. In Híndi-Sanskrít - It Was Always Spherical Earth.

Thank you so much Sir. I am from India. I have enjoyed your lecture. I have been pursuing my PhD in Philosophy of Science. Thanks again ❤

Crucible steel was invented in South India and Sri Lanka. Even Wikipedia dates Indian wootz steel earlier than Chinese steel.

Lacture is normal but students are most radicalised ….I studied in AMU…and I am hindu ….but in my entire course of 4 year …100% professors are Muslim but we never talk about any political and religious talk in any lacture …..

Bodhayyana theorem also known as Pythagoras theorem was first discovered in India then moved to greeks and romans.

Great Teacher respect from india

Your lectures are good. Maybe talk about Srinivasa Ramanujam. I also learnt quite a few things today.

These lectures are immutable and very much informative and full of historical facts. Hope it will help upcoming pakistani generation to know their proud and real history.🙏

Sir, Prior to Babble, Blaze Pascle and John Napier invented caculating machine and Pascle is considered to be the pioneer.

Itna briliant aadmi lecture de rha he Or 70% seats khali padi he India me hoodbhoy sahab aate lecture Dene to Kam se kam 5000 ka ticket Lena padta Rest and peace Pakistani education Pakistan

Ayurveda is the go-to science for many medical practitioners including in the West. There are numerous substances first mentioned in Ayurveda that West now likes to copy from Ayurveda. Neem, haldi, etc are scientifically proven to be as effective as claimed in Ayurveda literature. Your personal opinions, given your status, matter a lot so one expects a bit of background work before lecturing

सर अगर आप इंडिया में किसी गांव के रोड पर भी खड़े होकर ये बताते तो इससे कई गुना ज्यादा सुनने वाला मिल जाते। The condition of science in Pakistan is pathetic because concepts of Pakistan is against the science.

Sir, most of your discussion about contributions of Chinese and Indian are true …. But something’s left out regarding Indians. Yes you are right Chinese contribution in science is exceptional before BC

many people are starting to listen to Pervez Hoodbhoy he has patience and is still trying his best to educate pakistanis about science and mathematics. next generations will remember him as a hero who kept the flame of knowledge burning. but today TLP and its followers are just like those old age christians who killed those scientists who said earth revolve around sun .

Mr Hoodboy just because the word oxygen was not invented doesn't mean previously oxygen never existed in the air. Likewise Brahmagupta invented Zero (read ancient brahmagupta siddanta) Similarly just because you had western education doesn't mean scientist or doctors never existed in the ancient Indian subcontinent eg father of surgery was susrut or charak rishi who wrote charak samhita was from Takshashila which today's Pakistan. But to see the reality you need wear the right spectacle 👓

Dear Pervez, kudos for the attempt but I think it's not just an uphill task, it's practically impossible to get your audience there to even appreciate science. Aap bhainse ke aage been baja rahe ho. But I like I said, I appreciate your attempt in making a change in your community. Good luck with that. Pakistan will perhaps never realize the jem it has in you, but the rest of the world does. Kudos.

Very interesting lecture. You may also be interested in seeing BBC. The Story of Maths. The Genius of the East

By listening to the questions which Have been asked to Dr Hoodbhoy, you feel so sorry for him as well as amazed by his dedication. I feel sorry for him because the average intellect of the students is so low compared to him and I’m amazed by his dedication to still persist inspite of talking to these guys. The worst part is that these are people who are interested in listening to him and who have some interest in science. I dread how the average population thinks

Europeans were so scared of ZERO, it was rejected. After 2-3 centuries, it again appeared in Europe and used it with CAUTION. Therefore, in cheques and all we are asked to write the number, this was the custom adopted by first users of ZERO in Europe.-- Talk by C Raju.

I want to ask what type of music Dr sahib listen?

Chinese vernier calliper ki photo kahan hai? Diagram kyun use Kia HAI?

One suggestion to Pervez Sir, is to have the join option to this channel, so people who would like to support this channel monetarily can do that. You may not require monetary contributions but if people want to contribute in their own little way by membership subscription, then they will have the option to do. I have gained some useful knowledge by watching your videos, so I would like to contribute in my own little way. Thank you.

THANKS SIR ,FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE.

In addition to Nalanda, India had Taxila University as well.

Sir, What about ‘Iron pillar ‘ in Delhi , which still stand from around last 2000 years without getting rust? Is it not metallurgical science marble from India ? in Discovery of India by Jawahar Lal Nehru (Page 93, Oxford University press, Sixteenth Impression 1996) he quoted to Chhandogya Upanishads (which is undoubtedly more than 2000 years old ) ‘ The sun never set or rises. When people think to themselves the sun is setting he only changes about after reaching the end of the day, and makes night below and day to what is the other side. Then when people think he rises in the morning he only shifts himself about after reaching the end of the night, and makes day below and night to what is on the other side. In fact he never does set at all.

may Allah give you long life sir hoodbhoy you are asset of Pakistan. Keep uploading more content...

I am amazed to see so less people to ATTend the lecture

very insightful knowledge. but why only a few people are presence?

Sir please do full lectures on chapters i am waiting to watch 🙏🇮🇳

like we calculated speed of light and that atom have three part proton, neutron and electron but analogy was different and we did it way before anyone else. and this doesn’t happen without scientific thinking in the culture.

Very informative lecture by Dr Pervez Hoodboy.

🙏🏻 Dear professor

Very informative lecture. 👍👍

Such a great scientist and Only 15 - 20 people ?? The same lecture here in India and atleast 400 - 500 people would have attended.

Assalamualaikum how to attend this class

Excellent

Sir learn Devanagri. You already know the language learning the script will take just 10-15 days. This will help you take Indian names property. Aryabhatta is عریابھا ٹتا I could not type the last ٹ correctly. You know most scripts do not have both sounds ت ٹ. You can tell your students that udru has this and Persian does not because Urdu is the Indian version of Persian script.

Behtareen session namskar

58:22 - Reason for good health and high life expectancy - Humans became self-sufficient in agricultural food production...

What is wonderful video

amusing that professors bravely goes against Ayurvedic medicine , rightly so but he goes full defensive mode on that sun question related to quranic verse and Mohammed Qasim history , that shows his hypocrisy, he will bravely berate indian pseudo science but he becomes defensive anything related to quranic pseudo science 🤔, that why I appreciate him but I also see his duplicacy too , and I also sympathize with him cuz that society has low tolerance

Honesty is the first requirement on the way of learning. It provides us to strive for excellence

Indian in ancient mathematics Shathkhandagum- logarithm, Explanation of lunar eclipse and solar eclipse, rotation of Earth on its axis, reflection of light by moon, sinusoidal functions, solution of single variable quadratic equation, value of π correct to 4 decimal places, diameter of Earth, calculation of the length of sidereal year. Medical: Charak and susrut samhita (pathology, pharmacology and physiology, embryology and anatomy of human body, cure from poisons, ear piercings and curing, plastic surgery, plaster for bone fractures, body aeration, gynaecology etc.) Literature: (First grammar book- ashthadhyahi, abhigyan Shakuntalam- world’s longest poem and many more.) Architecture, metallurgy any many things… you believe in Greek science but don’t believe in your own history… hats off

Man in his arrogance believes that he is worthy of intervention of a deity. More humble and true is that man/woman evolved from other animals...Darwin.

Dear Sir, Please prepare a video like the PTV programme "Israr-e-Jahan". I learn too much about science from your videos. Thank you for being a Cancer Scientist and for research on Gastric Cancer.

Sir , thanks for informative session

To prove 1+1=2 and also prove that -1×-1=+1 They not obvious but need a strong mathematical proof

Well the question is not whether earth is rotating around sun or sun is rotating around earth. That we know for sure that earth is.moving around sun. But sun is not stationary either. Sun too is rotating, first on its own axis and then it is also rotating around milky way center. That way whole solar system is rotating as a unit, on a rotational arch within our galaxy

Do intellectual like hoodhboy consider as an Indian origin or having identity crisis like other converts in the sub continent?

I like the kids question, kid in red or pink shirt,he will grow well intrested in studies hopefully his genration will be of diffrent view and real well educated

Doctor Sahab, I recommend you videos by Praveen Mohan exploring ancient Hindu Temples' design and architecture and surprised on knowledge of builders about geometry, trigonometry and construction technology. Search his videos by typing Praveen Mohan.

No mention of Brahmagupta??

Aryabhatt used Zeero in 5th century 1st time, but invented mutch before, mentioned in our punchank

Mr. Hoodbhoy, you are a bright intellectual and I respect your views and the guts to critically analyze religion. I have been following your videos for few years now and have deep respect and admiration for you. There may be great intellectuals than you, but very seldom people come forward to criticize the unreasonable content present in the religious books because they are afraid of the backlash and in the worst case scenario their life itself. This trait of yours to fearlessly advance science and math is commendable and it requires passion and integrity to do genuine good to the people, for this trait itself I will salute you. Doing this type of talks in Pakistan is a sort of miracle because of the threats; Though Aryabhatta may have believed (it's debatable) in that sun and the star revolved around the earth but there is no doubt that he explained that earth was NOT stationary but it was rotating and revolving, this was an advanced concept at that time. Also, his book on mathematics and astronomy was translated by the Islamic scholars to Arabic during the 9th century which had great impact on science and mathematics in the Islamic world. So, this contribution of his should be kept in mind when talking about Islamic golden age; I have observed that you seem to downplay the contributions of India to science and technology in few of your talks, maybe because you are not aware of them. No doubt, wonderful progress was made by the Muslims during their golden age but they advanced the critical concepts which were already available through the Indian/Greek/Chinese or some other ancient civilization. It is difficult to find many groundbreaking original contributions of the Muslims in science and math that are devoid of others influences or insights. The shape of the earth was considered to be a sphere in India for way long, hence it was call bhugol (gol - meaning round/spherical), in many cultures earth was considered to be a flat body but Indians always considered it to be a sphere; Indians were very advanced in science and math, else it would not have been possible to build architectural marvels like the ancient temples nor the way the houses were built in the Indus Valley Civilization (it also had one of the most sophisticated drainage systems of the ancient world); Regarding contributions to medical science, please read about Sushrutha and his work in medicine before passing judgments, please check out the medical treatise written by him in the "Sushrutha Samhitha"; He is highly regarded in western nations (your favourite nations for science and technology) and his bust was erected by the Royal Australian College of Surgeons (RACS) in Melbourne, Australia, acknowledging the contribution of this great ancient expert in medicine. Regarding Ayurveda, many of it's medicines and treatments are with regards to extracting direct or indirect by-products of the plants (stems, leaves, seeds etc.,), so as you said we have to be careful in using them without examining scientific merit of it; Please update yourself on this' Coming to Islam and it's invaders, there is no need to go in detail, we already know how they destroyed some of the great ancient civilizations like Persia, Egypt and it is a miracle that India survived these barbaric invaders. Because of the strong concept of the law of karma that Indians survived the onslaught of the Islamic invaders, they saw that Quran is devoid of this basic concept of humanity they believed in and hence fought against Islamic invaders relentlessly even staking their lives; 1. No country in history survived prolonged onslaught from Islam as India did and still survived to tell its tale; 2. No country in the world excused the barbaric invaders and allowed for their integration into it's society like India. There may be many ills in the Indian society but the above two reasons should be enough to appreciate the high civilization of India and it's stress on the law of karma (which basically translates to do good deeds);

history of science is also a science. the learned professor has correctly pointed out our grey areas. science develops through mutual cooperation, not in isolation.Even during war between England and France their mathematicians and scientists did communicate with each other on new developments of science. In India we are trying to correct ourselves but in pakistan everything revolves around Kashmir and Islam. what is the way out ?

Respected sir u did not mention about shridharacharya we use his formula in 9 and 10 standards

Yar Ye bande ko rishi shushrut ke bare me nahi Pata kya

Sir, why these students are trying to find science in Quran

Why class is empty?

Aryabhata had earlier indicated that the Sun is in the center and the rest of the planets are revolving around it. Evidence of this exists in India.

Sir you are doing great job! Do pay attention to the haters

Why did China (India too) could not develop into a country like the one in Europe? Answer by Rahul C Mehta, an alumni of IIT Delhi, and New Jersey Univ, USA Selected Topics in history - Individual Science Vs Technology and Industry ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mAgaKhYMce4.html

Sir I really appreciate your work in pakistan 🇵🇰 I have been following you from very long time. But you should really update your knowledge of USA technology culture and also Indian contribution in science in particular.

Nalanda University me agriculture or medical ki har shobe ki study hotti thi

Please teach about the "Zen Paradox" ... The first thought process changed the infinite series and Calculus....

Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy explains very well. He is very knowledgeable and everyone respects him. Pakistan should make him the education minister.

Sir, what is your opinion about Arab Mathematician who may be a Muslim, introduced present writings of numbers and actually give modern education a concept of zero. He visioned that no Angle represents ( 0 ) one Angle ( 1) tow angles ( 2) three angles ( 3) ----- remember old days (7 ) was written exactly seven angles--- nine angles ( 9) stills we called them Arabic numbers.

Finely koi to pakistan me apne own indian haritage ko btana start kiya thanks sir....its for all its for whole indian subcontinent people....👍👍💐 Its common heritage ....budhha is our own hearitage ...not gajnavi gauri khilaji

You can read Dr. Subhash Kak’s books

hamari libraries bhaktiyar khilji ne jala di thi jo 3 mahine tak jalti rahi jisme hamari science ki manuscripts jal gyi. nhi to ham science ke lihaz se bhot advanced hote.

Indian civilization 3000 bc? Wrong sir, it's much older.

KUDOS TO YOU.......LET KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM PREVAIL

Its Pakistan - so this lecture is thinly attended. In India, even in Metros, people would pay very good money to attend this lecture. It would run House Full in large auditoriums. In smaller towns their (smaller) auditoriums would overflow. There'd be touts outside scalping tickets, local politicians would get involved alleging discrimination in ticket allotment, there'd be danga phasaad by people who hadn't managed to get tickets etc etc .

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🙏🏻sir..

It is indeed a nice effort by Prof. Hoodbhoy to instill the spirit of scientific curiosity in the minds of his country people through this series. One wishes that the Professor would have refrained from referring to the ancient mathematicians in this lecture as "Indians" in a slightly pejorative third person context. In the passage of time, the creation of Pakistan and India as independent countries is a very recent phenomenon. But, the Indian subcontinent has existed from times immemorial. In one's opinion, it would not discredit Pakistani scholars like Prof. Hoodbhoy to acknowledge this common ancient heritage. After all, we too refer to Takshashila as a great centre of learning in ancient India even though geographically it now lies in Pakistan.