A lot of people forget to bring the lip down after engaging the safety locks. 🤔 Thereby causing the weight of the vehicle to be held by the actual piston itself causing those seals to prematurely leak 💯 I'm not saying that that's what happened in this case. But when you do have these cheaper lifts you have to make sure that after you slide your safety locks in you then push your down button on your Lyft to release the pressure thereby causing the weight of the vehicle to be held mechanically the versus hydraulically
As a hoist tech my biggest recommendation is with floor plate models remove the plate clean & dry the area because rust and salt will eat the cables up and you can inspect the hose.
Mine started leaking, I took the glands off, the seal sizes were actually labeled, 40-70-7.3, I looked them up, a place called 123bearings had all kinds of them, Ordered them and costed me about $28.00 after shipping. Easy to do.
I am 70 yrs. old and paid 2000.00 for the same lift that you are showing and it was the best thing I ever bought. I love it and would be unable to do my own mechanic work and I am restoring a 1972 c-10 chevy. I put it up by myself and at 70 anyone can do it.
Bud. When is the last time you checked the torque on those bolts? Those seem awfully high out of the top of the base plate. I bought a Chinese lift and went to install it and discovered I didn’t have enough concrete and had to cut and re-pour 8 inches of fresh concrete. After a LOT of research I decided to go with expoxy resin and threaded Rod for strength. I ask because it seems like a LOT of threads are past your nuts and according to most manufacturers anything over an inch with a mechanical fastener is a failure. Might want to check on your nuts and bolts.
I bought a 4.5 tonne clearfloor 2 post lift from Launch. It was only AUD 3200 plus install at my home workshop. It gets serviced and checked every year and has given me no problems. Best money I have ever spent! Launch lifts are pretty good quality from my experience.
Pull seals, measure, match online, buy replace $65/side. Hone out until its through the wall... I would have laughed that guy off the phone. End of the day Surplus Center could have had you 2 new cyl for less than that. But yes I agree for a hobby guy good lift. My Atlas 10k is going strong after 10+ years, with zero repairs.
So if anybody gets one they should purge the hydraulic oil from the system and replace it with fresh hydraulic oil to make certain there is no moisture in it and save the cost and inconvenience of having the hydraulic cylinders worked on.
Thank you it really seems to be helpful to alot of folks, hopefully I can make more helpful videos like this. If you have any suggestions feel free to pitch what you'd like to see!
I can buy a tuxedo for $3,500 and have it delivered to my work for under $200 I'd rather pay the extra money and know that I have a unit that can be fixed quickly off the shelf and is warrantied
Looks nice. I've been eyeballing those Maxx jak mid rise ones. Obviously it's a mid rise but the advantage to that is I believe you can basically get it shipped right to your garage and set it up maybe just with one or two guys and no forklift etc. Also pretty nice if you don't have ceilings that can accommodate a true two post.
I had looked at those about the time I bought this Chinese one and at the time the price difference was about 3x higher for the Maxx jak. So I passed. Now I'd have to look and see just what is what. To compare
@@limpnoodlelifestyle5552 yea they're really pricey new, like +$3200 new. Idt it's worth that honestly. But the other day....I actually found a brand new one for sale for $1000...I kind of clicked on it to see if it was real and it did actually seem legitimate. If I had the space etc I'd for sure pay a grand for one
i have this lift its out side and the cylinders rusted too . i just made a extention for a cylinder hone did it my self two times . first time got seals from the lift seller on e bay thay sent them for free . second time person could not speek english so i found a seal on ebay . lift is ok im happy with it i spray it with fluid film to keep rust away
7:00 My hoist was sold in 1996, made in Wichita KS and only now has the seal failed. Mine is 7000 LB capacity and only 1 cylinder. Your repairs: They probably made new pistons and used standard seals. I am doing my own fix.
damn $150 for shopping from China.. meanwhile I'm in nyc Brooklyn and Walmart trying to charge me $200 to ship for a PS5 from Walmart in nj that's right next to the holland tunnel (30-45 minute drive), and you can't pick it up. 🤦♂️ I know this has nothing to do with this video, but hearing the shipping cost made me think about it
I got one of these lifts the overhead the arms are week I picked up a dodge 1 ton and the arms stretched around the pins and ended dropping the truck I took it out and put in a Atlas I am very happy with it
I bought a 9000 lb lift from Greg Smith Equipment out of Indianapolis many years ago now. It's identical looking to this one. Never have had a complaint or any repair on it. Paid around 1800 shipped. Best thing I ever bought.
Sure enough I bought my Aplus and a month later bought a globe on market place for 300 bucks it's twice the lift made in Canada and rated 7000 lbs I don't know who rates them but I wouldn't leave 10,000 lbs on my Chinese but would my Canadian rated 3000 lbs less
If it aint built by rotary ...its a Chinese built hoist, all from the same factories , I think there's three , everything else ( parts) are outsourced from whoever has it ..that changes often ...on any hoist ..nothing wrong with a Chinese hoist if Americans are too lazy too work anyway ...lol
I'm waiting on the metal for my pole barn, but once it's up I found a package deal online for a 10k 2 post lift, tire changing machine, and tire balancer machine for $4999.00 which is perfect for what I do. I'm pretty sure their most likely Chinese stuff. I know the lift by itself is $2700.00
And if it's a real professional shop ..they dont last 7 years , we change them all every 5 years , stay ahead of the curve ..just like diagnostic machines and lots of specialty tools , them get worse every year ..why does it cost so much to have someone fix your vehicle ..hhhmmm I don't know ...global warming..🤷♂️
Personally I'm not going to buy a cheap Chinese piece of crap if it's in charge of my life. I'm rolling with the calendar best of the best 15000 pound rated dose anything and everything I could Possibly I did pay some good coin for it but the peace of mind when the vehicle is up in the air above my head is well worth it.
Yeah but the lift failing isn't usually where accidents an failures happen. Usually it is drift over time in the adjustments of locks, arm locks, cable stretch or operator error. Stay safe, you're really no safer than this guy with lifts lots can still go wrong but good for you that sounds like an impressive lift, what did that cost you ballpark?
China built lifts are shit I’ve fitted a few hundred of them never been a fan. Your from the USA buy rotary I fit rotary in the uk best lift about you penny pincher It should be buying for safety not buying For cheap Over the last 3 years 10 mechanics died in the uk from failed lifts 7 deaths was due to China built shit lifts the other 3 was due to lack of maintenance
Rotory is a great lift to buy, but I’m biased because I work for a distributor, however if you have money to burn and you like over build equipment buy a Mohawk. I’ve have the experience of moving one and there tanks.
Where is your proof? If people didn't buy for cheapness they wouldn't have a lift at all and end up getting hurt just trying to jack the suv up. Not everything is worth it's price! Mostly mechanical lifts and tools. They are the most overpriced metal!
I worked in Hydraulics and it is not uncommon for cheap cylinders to be welded up and a follow up hone to remove warpage and any debris that forms on the weld sites to be skipped. It gets them past warranty but the seals die early every time.
The cylinders in these lifts are single acting, i.e fluid pumped in below the piston extends the cylinder raising the lift. Lowering is a combination of gravity and valving once the locks are released. The upper cylinder is expected to run dry, just a smear of oil for lubrication, no oil introduced in operation. To leak out of the top seals, fluid has to get past the piston and it's seals, then start to fill the upper cylinder. It will eventually be pressurised in the upper cylinder during raising and virtually hydrolock it, but with enough pressure in the lower cylinder, it will blow the upper seal. While the presence of a slow leak around the upper seal is not a major issue in itself, the fact that sufficient oil is getting into the upper cylinder indicates that the cylinder either needs a major overhaul or replacement.
I’m curious to know how far those anchor bolts are in concret, typically they come with 5 1/4” anchors and between the base thickness and the nut it looks like 2 1/2-3 “ is sticking out of the floor. Don’t feel like that’s enough into the concrete imo
You can adjust the drain back to decrease the speed that it lowers. Its the little jam nut with the hex bolt on the side of the motor/reservoir assembly.
make sure you have good concrete. My lift broke the concrete and dropped a truck seconds after I got out from under it to get a tool. nearly killed me.
Agreed. Shouldn't be so much bolt sticking up, but, if the anchors are holding torque, they are good. I'd be curious if he checks anchor torque. I check my anchor bolt torque at least 2-3 times a year.
Interesting. If they have a low profile version that would be a good upgrade from my HF scissor lift. I tried to buy an American version of that lift and it was nothing but problems. I sent it back. HF was cheaper and no problems. I hate buying from China but they're hard to beat sometimes. Especially when you're saving 50%-75%.
good hoist other than the safety locks are a pain to use, oh and the seals failed and cylinders rusted while submerged in oil over 3 years? that sucks. so far about 4 years of heavy hobby use on my atlas hoist which is supposed to be good chinesium (who knows?) has been flawless. as has my brothers who has been running his for 5+ years. they were about $2500 at that time but we did get the extra wide extra tall 10,000lb hoist so it will accommodate the car trailer and opening doors on bigger vehicles for people with bigger bellies...
I work under a lift 5 days a week and done so for the last 36 years. You wouldn't catch me under a Chinese lift. Faulty chinese products killed my 26 year old son. If it fails who's going to stand behind the damage and injury?
@@freddaniali Bendpak lifts are made in China. Challenger and Rotary still make US-made lifts (although their cheaper lifts are Chinese). Mohawk lifts are 100% made in USA. I would not send my son underneath a Chinese lift, not even if it carried a Bendpak label. They might be better than the worst Chinese lifts, but they are nowhere near Rotary or Mohawk quality.
this is why you dont buy crap ahahahaha, I used to install lifts, bend pak is crap, stick with rotary or challenger. svi international makes aftermarket parts to repair them if the manufacturer docent. rotary puts on classes and sells the lifts used in classes at a discount. just because it can lift it does not mean its rated for it, also 10k lift does not mean a 10K vehicle. its the vehicle plus the lift arms and carriage. hope this helps guys. you can find decent deals in parts flyers that you find in the local Napa parts stores.
So I couldn't help but notice how much bolt you have left sticking out of the floor. Was it a long bolt or did you not go down far enough? Should be like 4"-5" drill depth.
I noticed this as well, very obvious wanted to make sure not to post the same thing. Glad someone else noticed this, I doubt the anchors are longer than 6" so what we see is pretty alarming. I'm surprised more people didn't mention this, I'm also amazed what those anchors are capable of tolerating. They and the concrete must have a very large safety factor. This gives me quite a bit of confidence in installing my own used professional lift where I have lots of challenges like unlevel, cracked concrete where I need to cut and key in new thicker concrete pads for the lift on a budget.
@The Replacement for Displacement I had the same issue with small dips in the concrete. I bought steel shims to use instead of the nylon, some needed a 1/4" of shim, I wasn't comfortable stacking that many of the plastic ones.
@@Random-bm7ho Yeah I agree, plastic creeps without any load on it let alone 1000's of psi on them. I will make shims like you said out of SS. I shouldn't need a lot since I need to replace and beef up the section of concrete where posts sit. Thanks for the heads up though.
I don't feel that way. He was not the only one I spoke to and I had a similar conversation with another local company Plus he sent Me photos of all of the work done as it was being done. And proof of the damage to the cylinders and at the end of the day he stayed under the amount he originally quoted
I bought an American lift made in China 10-15 years ago and it is awesome. Corvettes, trucks , trailers ,big trucks and it’s it still going and paid 1195.00 at the time . Delivery was to a commercial address and we had a back hoe to receive it from the flat bed trailer
My pal has a (peak) branded version of a chinese lift in the uk. 4t capacity. 240v with a standard plug. 8 years old and still really good. The only thing i dont really like is the cups and the adapters. But we convert his to multi step screw outs
Sweet looking shop. I just built my shop last year 30x50 with 14' walls. I was wondering what size your shop is. I just put a Champion 9500lb lift in mine. Mine is an overhead model. Looks like you have plenty of head room and I think the overhead model is way nice to have a clear floor to roll stuff over. Especially when you are putting non running stuff on and off the lift. My lift also has the manual lock releases on each post which is a little annoying but I'm also just using it at home for personal use. It's a great tool to have. Even used mine with straps on the the arms to pull the bed off my 65 C10. Can't wait to find more uses for it! By the way. Most of the "brand name" lifts including my Champion are also made in China. Nothing wrong with made in China, the biggest thing is quality control. Probably not the same consistency you'd get with more reputable stuff.
Never buy china made products that was manufacture by U.S.A. Companies who's trying to produce products the cheapest price they can sub manufacture w/ the Highest Profit Margin. You people must own Apple I Phone but no one complaining cause they pay premium to the factories to produce a high quality products cause the name Apple needs to justify the price. they most likely pat $ 50.00 for the phone & sells U.S. market for like what $1200 -1500
In my shop, I won't ever work under a lift that's not certified. These lifts are ok for home use but make sure you engage the safeties. Also make sure the lift is installed properly with enough concrete on the floor. As far as those who say it works fine etc. good for you. As far as warranty goes, if it falls and kills you I don't think the warranty will cover that. My lifts are Mohawk.
I don't have a pro shop, but I stay pretty busy in my home shop. I would not send my young son to work underneath a Chinese lift. A friend of mine has a generic Chinese two post, and compared to my Mohawk System IA, his is a toy. It's almost funny how much -crappier- lighter _everything_ on his lift is. Most of us retired guys use our lifts a lot more than we would have guessed, and I'd much rather be working on a project car than repairing a cheapie lift.
I contacted a local Lift dealer and they have used lifts available sometimes. I got a challenger 10,000 lbs. lift professionally installed for under $2,000. I bet my 10 year old used Challenger is better than a new low quality import.
I discarded the Chinese bolts and went with some longer heavy duty bolts from the start. I also had my shop floor poured to twelve inches in the area I was to install the lift. An ounce of prevention ... Good luck. Mine is still doing great!
Love mine. Horribly slow when going down with no load on it. The last foot, after truck tires hit the ground takes soooooo long. But that’s the only complaint I have
To "resolve" the issue of having to walk to the non-control side to unlock the safety pin mechanism, I simply tied a chord/rope to the dog ear, uncoiled it to the control side with plenty of extra length. Thus when that side needs released I simply pull the rope. No need to walk to the other side. 3 yrs ago bought mine, same as yours except labeling. Mine is branded "Mayflower" from China. That has to be an oxymoron somehow. The unit has performed beyond my expectation for $1250.
I noticed a lot of treads above the anchor nuts you may have thin concrete depending on the length of the anchor. Also most chinese lifts are not third party tested your putting your life at risk getting under a vehicle I wouldn't put anything over 5000 lbs on it.
I've got an Aplus scissor lift for my home garage. I love it. 2 years, no issues. It's Chinese made but, they gave a full 2 year warranty on all parts.
trusttttt nothing from china not a single thing car lifts are made in the usa for a reason anything good you want the usa anything that you want to live and not die from usa
Anyone who's done a engine swap on a 4th gen f-body thru the bottom with 2x4s, jackstands, furniture dolly and a harbor freight engine hoist strapped to the $300 red hotchkis strut tower brace that all Camaro's had and rolled on Zo6 wheels lol was a one and only time without a lift Mines still rockin the 10 bolt but is the 8th one. Had my 99' since 04' cars been sitting 4 years waiting for the iron 5.3 with a 78/75 to replace badly abused and broken iron 6.0 I still have the stock ls1 and a 04' ls6 and run tits, I should sell them to some rich old guy so he can say his old truck has a vette motor even thou Its outta a cts-v lol
Hi, I just bought the same lift, and now looking for videos about it. And here I am. The lift is still in China somewhere though. Ty for the information on your lift. Well ty bud and take care. :) Do you know if anyone have a infovid of how to set it up?
I don't know of any info video. It's been awhile and my info probably wouldn't be very helpful as my memory is terrible lol but I recall it did come with instructions and the setup was not very difficult. Even without the instructions it's not too much trouble to figure out
Might have bought new cylinders from the manufacturer. Or deal with a competent hydraulic shop rather than one "specializing" in lifts. What we can agree upon is that USA manufacturing is in serious decline.
If you had paid a US Company $5000 to fit a car lift - they would have bought this from China and fitted it for $3500, and you would have been prefectly happy But you buy this from China at a really good price and because you didn't pay $5000 - you think there is a problem
Got a 10k lb lift and a company came and installed.. once they left the next day the lift is super shaky on the way down.. tried to bleed the lines and no luck. Any suggestions???
I just bought this lift and installed it in my shop. I have had it for a week and already had to do some welding on it. The arms are super sloppy on mine. My f350 was sketchy when i lifted it. I got up about 3 feet and my ass started puckering. Do you have any issues with the posts pullibg inward lifitng heavier vehicles
Id even put a bar at the top as well. wouldnt be hard to fab up and you could even paint it blue. I have a Rotary lift with a bar at the top and lifting a vehicle 5-6' off the ground can make em wanna lean in .Not a big deal tho. My Rotary even leaks some when its up a few days.If the cylinders fail just get another set off the net. Itwould have been easier. Bang for the buck and limited use id call it a win.Nice lift
The salt water destroys steel. Working in a mold shop, we recieve steel mold bases and steel inserts that are either wrapped in foam, then packaging tape, or in the case of the mold bases, 1200 lbs easy they are sprayed with an oil product then wrapped with layer upon layer of plastic wrap, and those little packets that say Do Not Digest. The cost is a third of having it local, especially keeping the cost down.
There is Only One Lift To Buy PERIOD Mohawk Lifts Not Cheap But What is Your Life Worth ? I've Worked Under Automobiles A Long Time I've Been A Mechanice 49 Years
Funny thing is most people don't realize that harbor freight tools have warranties and a lot of their hand tools are lifetime! And as far as the lift find me one big name company that doesn't have most of their parts for anything they make built in China or Taiwan or various other countries hell Harley davidson even sources most of their parts from all over the world they are just assembled in America same with Ford Chevrolet and dodge and not all of them are even assembled in America so if you ask me big name or bargain Chinese lift it's 6 of one half dozen of the other
Nice shop! The first thing I noticed was your left & right lift sides are not adjusted evenly as the locks are not hitting at the same time; should be one solid click as it goes up. If you did have a failure as it was going up and only one lock was engaged the result would be disastrous. Most of the big name brand lifts are also made in China. The biggest differences are much better customer support and more standardized readily available service parts. Also, just because it goes up does not mean it is safe to lift. Those bigger trucks, especially diesels, are very heavy on the front end, and with a 10,000 lb. lift your limited to 2,500 lbs. per arm, not just 10,000 lbs. overall. Most people don't put big trucks on anything less than a 12k lift. In this situation more is better. Finally, the biggest concern with 2 post lifts is making sure you have an adequate concrete foundation. Some lift manufacturers say all you need is 4" of 3,500 psi concrete. While that might be fine on a four post lift, the lift installers that do this for a living strongly recommend 12" of reinforced concrete for 2 post lifts. It all boils down to what is your life or the lives of your workers worth...
I have same lift with different name. Bought in 20018. No issues, ever. Paid about $1600, but don't see them at that price any more. Had shipped to trucking/cargo terminal in nearest big city. Installed myself.
I bought a atlas 9000lb through Greg Smith 4yrs ago. I don't use it in a commercial setting but have used it on my chevy 2500 hd crew cab many times and on my wife's dodge journey and have had no problems at all. Several of my neighbors have come over to borrow time on the lift and have enjoyed not having to crawl around on the floor.
Liability ! wot if there's a personal injury? are You going to pay the piper, Stan...this ol' mechanic sure wouldn't leave hisself wide open for a multi million $$ lawsuit...shhiitt happens,eh?
@@redrocket5183 nonsense. If you have taken care of your equipment, including following the manufacturers guidelines for maintenance, there's no basis for a lawsuit if your friend in injured in your shop. You *are* responsible for injuries if you _know_ of a dangerous condition, or _should_ have known of one but did not take reasonable care to make your property safe. If you're afraid of lawsuits, you can insist on a signed waiver, but that still does not remove your responsibility to exercise ordinary care to keep the property reasonably safe.
I was back and forth the 1000 are A plus both 10,000 lbs l love my Aplus 1700 dollars delivered to my house l unloaded it with my Kubota tractor with fork's,
i dont think the average guy could afford this let alone the HUGE pole barn to put it in. unless you mortgage the house you dont have or take out a quarter million loan you cant pay back.
