Chiropractic is 98% BS- A Response to Joe Rogan 

I agree that Rogan was wrong on this one. It's actually 100%.

He lost me at spinal hygiene 😆

Trust me, i'm a chiropractor

I had a herniated disk, did what this guy said (go to chiropractor) I was then almost in a wheelchair for the rest of my life. I had emergency back fusion surgery. Luckily I'm walking now.

98% percent of the comments agree that chiropractic is bs

Your video perfectly reflects the bs chiropractors tell their patients, i watched this whole video and not once did you talk about how the practice can heal someone. That's what Joe was saying "tell me how pressing on my back is going to heal me". I don't think you have bad intentions but you did not convince anyone with this

1:21 - I would disagree, a physical therapist is the best one to talk about ergonomics and core strengthening.

Source: Trust me

I'm an MD. I talk about core strengthening exercises and stretches to maintain musculoskeletal health with EVERY patient that comes with back pain. I discuss it in a more general sense with every patient as part of maintaining healthy weight, posture, and bone health. This is standard practice among my colleagues as well. And for the record, Physical Therapists are the best healthcare professionals to talk about those topics, not chiropractors.

Of course this dude says its not a scam he is a chiropractor lol

Basically, 98% of chiropractors are scams. This guy is kinda right because he does mention core strengthening. But you will get better results at a physical therapist.

I don't think there will be a "next time" for Joe and chiropractors.

This guy called chiropractors “healthcare professionals” multiple times 😂

Its amazing that you dont actually provide links to these journals that supposedly say chiropractic treatment is the bees knees. Especially with the label the evidence based chiropractor🤔

"evidence based chiropractor" oxymoron

Love how he talks about these journals, but does not reference them in the description.

*works hand-in-hand with real doctors

As someone who got a permanent case of craniocervical instability (i.e. my upper neck ligaments are totally f*cked from neck adjustment), I affirm that it's not just BS, it's DANGEROUS! Dont let a chiropractor near your neck please! Too much important stuff up there to risk it with a barbaric trauma-inducing maneuver!

The fact that you have to define yourself as "evidence based" speaks volumes of the industry, don't ya think?

“Treated for over a year.” He wasn’t being treated he was being scammed.

you were great on arrested development

It definitely says go to a physical therapist for a herniated disk. John hopkins lists several treatments a chiropractor isnt one of them .

The founder was a magnetic healer who claimed to have cured a deaf person with chiropractic adjustments. That should tell you enough about this profession. The fact that they have the arrogance to call themselves doctors is laughable.

Spinal hygiene huh? Got that clean spine! 🤣

This video gave me even less confidence in Chiropractors.

The only reason chiropractic is "stood behind...as the first treatment option" is because doctors want to exhaust all minimally invasive methods before resorting to more complicated treatments like surgery. It's a process of elimination, not really as much to do with chiropractic's track-record of efficacy. Further, appeals to authority dont count as evidence.

You can go get adjusted at one chiropractor, then go to another right after and theyll tell you that you need adjusting

Honest question. How could a chiropractor help a herniated or buldged disc? Isn’t that like a real injury?

"Working hand and hand with Johns Hopkins trained neurosurgeons" Omg 😂😂😂

Well of course the chiropractor is going to say it's legit. Scam artists.

So when is the next seance?

I have a bulged disc, slight, in mid upper back, w/ no numbness and infrequent pain, my doctor recommended a chiropractor but I never went. I am scared of getting my back adjusted. What are the benefits someone can expect from a chiropractor treating a minor herniated disc? Also, do discs heal on their own over time?

"Joe said it was 98% bs" "Well I am a Chiropractor" So you're biased is what you're saying...

“Proper spinal hygiene” LOL

You can literally get friends to crack joints for free. You can also get a $10 foam roller; guaranteed back crack.

Fortunately for me the chiropractor i go has no problem telling patient in my case at the time my mother he couldn’t help her with a specific problem told her to see a medical doctor

Lol you’re not getting on the podcast buddy

Real scientific methods don't need the words "evidence based" in front of them.

Where can I find independent studies on the benefits of chiropractic care?

This is great of you, what have you to say about knee replacement with chiropractic Care

This guy said chiro’s are the best medical professionals to talk to... they are not medical professionals. Lol

Isn't the best first course of treatment for non specific mechanical back pain (i.e. no red flags) time, advice and exercise.

The amount of bs this guy just said is mind blowing 😂😂🤣🤣

And where on the body do you push to cure deafness?

TRUE STORY: I went to a chiropractor for about a month, once a week. The fourth visit, his receptionist was out, and - not knowing if he was with a client or not - I headed back to the treatment room, which had the door cracked open. Through the crack, I could see a woman sitting on the treatment table, and I could see the chiropractor pointing to something on the wall, out of my view. I heard the chiropractor say to the woman "see, this is the x-ray of your neck and spine, and you can see these spots ... here and here ... where the spine is out of whack .... " I listened for a few seconds and then turned to go back to the waiting room. Before I could reach the waiting room, I heard the door to the treatment room open and so turned back around to see the woman exiting the room, with the chiropractor right behind her, so I started back toward the treatment room. The chiropractor saw me and said, "Ahh, just the man I was expecting, come on in." I followed him into the room. He did the adjustment, and then said he had something he wanted to show me. He pointed to the same wall, where I could now clearly see an X-ray of someone's neck and spine. He then said "see, this is an X-ray of your neck and spine, and you can see these spots ... here and here ... where your spine is very badly out of whack ..." I thought he was joking at first. Then I realized that to him, the chiropractor, it had appeared as though I had just arrived at his office, when he and the other patient exited the treatment room. He had no idea that I had stood just outside the door for thirty seconds of this same "schpeal" he had given the previous client. There was only one door into the treatment room. There was no one else in the office, as his receptionist was gone, and - even if there had been an entire team there working with him - no one entered or exited that room except the chiropractor and the patient. I even asked him if he was sure that was my X-ray, and he uttered a very unconvincing "uh ... yes" - like I kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar. I never went back, and - if I'm being honest - that was the day I came to believe that 95% of chiropractic medicine is bs. Maybe I wrong, but one thing is clear to me, to this day. That chiropractor had done that scam a million times. He said almost exactly the same thing to me that he had said to the woman, with the same timing and meter .... like one says the pledge of allegiance.

Why are chiros the best to teach "spinal hygiene" and core strength? REFERENCE NEEDED for the claim that chiropractic adjustments are the best treatment for a bulging disc.

"...as well as working hand in hand every day with JOHN HOPKINS trained..." This is where you lost me. There's absolutely no way you are educated and think it's not called JOHNS HOPKINS.

When chiropractors try to explain what they are really doing to your body it sounds so stupid

I did some light digging in the spinal journal. I found that in 2004 a study showed people felt less pain after "adjustments". Another article cited similar result in 2011. All that is OLD news and not showing us that chiropractic voodoo actually fixes anything. Medicine changes every year and new studies and methods are always being practiced. I'd like to see a peer reviewed article that says chiropractic voodoo fixed a medical condition in the past 4 years.

The chiropractor messed my neck up. Its not worth the risk

I'm not saying all of chiropractic "manipulations" are bad. Some might be alright, even if they were to be placebo. Some probably feel nice too, and there's nothing wrong with that imo. Having said that, I'm not trusting my C1-C7 to someone who goes by "Dr." and hasn't been to med school (let alone do 7 extra years of training to become a neurosurgeon).

Chiropractors love all that Crossfit injury money.

A crazy hippy chiro lady used a hammer type tool on my neck one time,when it was my low back that had issues.She said it was connected to my low back🙄 Anyway after that session,my neck would make a cracking sound when I would look down or a certain way. I should sue her for malpractice. I’m not saying all chiros are bad,but after that incident I have trouble trusting them,even if they have good reviews on ratemds.

Lol. No evidence was provided

I have atrophy in my calf from a confirmed bulging S2. The calf feels weak also. Can this be reversed (can long-time damaged nerves be switched back on)?

Here is how chiropractors use psychology dishonestly to make themselves look legit. They literally can borrow whatever terms and research from real medicine and yet keep calling themselves “chiropractors”. When a patient is becoming skeptical they will actually use real concepts in physiology and real spine surgery and the patient will become confused to what extent this chiropractor “knows” his stuff. The problem is the core concept of chiropractors. Look up online where the term “chiropractic” come from and why it is not based on any science. If these non-doctors claim to be able to help somehow that only they can, then ask yourself, or them, “what is chiropractics?” , “Why aren’t they called just “spine therapist’ or something straightforward?

I've heard of good chiropractors talking about healthy movement and biomechanics, but mine have never said anything about that to me. My physical therapists have done a lot of that every single time, even my physician tried to mention things like that

The reason why chiropractors are recommended in US - because it's a HUGE business. Go outside US - and see what the primary option is - it's not chiropractors - it's usually physical therapy. Cracking bones doesn't do jack shit longterm - the most beneficial thing chiropractors can do is massage, and discuss exercises to strengthen muscles and correct bad habits and posture - but the adjustments, cracking is total bullshit when it comes to longterm results or cures for chronic issues that require major physical therapy and surgery - you are just wasting time. I mean people go to see chiro for minor stuff that will get better on it's own given time.

In Australia chiropracticors are not allowed to practice in hospitals as they are not real doctors.but have there own training systems and call themselves doctors with out having to do a doctorate

Evidence based? Which published peer reviewed scientific journal can I find this evidence in? Thank you.

Facts: The reason he said chiropractic is 98% bs is because he lives in the US where many of the chiropractic schools are subluxation/ philosophy based and not evidence/ science based. Chiropractic has some shady beginnings, but some schools are more objectively evaluating the evidence and don't see chiropractic as a business like most chiropractors in the US. It is a shame that the public gives their money to 'doctors' who tell people they can cure their asthma and diabetes by re-aligning the spine to supply proper nerve innervation to the organ with the problem. That is what they teach at Palmer, the school that the doctor in this video went to. It's a pretty deep rooted issue that can't easily be solved. Patients need to do their research when selecting a chiropractor and if they at any time say the word "subluxation" that should immediately raise a red flag.

Snake oil salesmen 😂😂

In addition to my previous comment - because I've reflected on this over the past couple of days - all the naysayers and critics should take 25 minutes and watch this video. I like this chiropractor, and this video is a good example of what a chiropractor can decipher that a medical doctor wouldn't have a clue about. Watch the entire thing. I've had my own profound example in the last 3 years - that has to do with a persistent heart arrythmia, and persistent lower back instability that ultimately relates (as it turns out) to a knee injury I sustained in the service that resulted in a reconstruction - both of which I consulted medical specialists about for decades. After not having seen a chiropractor for approximately 20 years, it was a chiropractor that put these issues to bed in short order, in the space of 3 weeks, and years after I had lost hope about both medical complaints. I had not even gone to see the chiropractor about those specific issues. Watch the video and, while you do it, try to push the prejudice out of your mind: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SYHI6ee88GU.html

he did tell his chiro that he thought he had a bulging disk tho and then he said when he told his chiro they guy told him no you dont based on looking at the top of his head

I went to a chiropractor for low back pain. 6 weeks later, and after 2 treatments per week during that time, I ended up on a neurosurgeon's table. The chiropractor never even billed me and I think just wanted me to disappear and not sue him. I should have been tipped off by all the Christian material and propaganda type brochures etc in his waiting room. It was a scam. REST, stretching, and gentle consistent strengthening exercises are the way to go.

If you leave a chiro office not understanding what the purpose of the treatment is or how/why it can help then your chiro didn't do their job properly. Technically speaking if your chiro didn't explain what they where going to do and why they are going to do it and what the risks associated with the treatment are then they do not have informed consent from you to provide that treatment. That would be considered professional misconduct in most jurisdictions in North America.

Reading a meta analysis of the activator tool and it says the sample sizes are too small and there are no control groups for any of the published research. How do chiropractors justify using a tool with no evidence supporting it’s use?

To : perspective students of Chiropractic---Young perspective chiropractors face about 7-8 years of college---Average chiropractor earns $ 80,000 per year. Yes, your mother gets to tell her neighbors that their kid is a " Doctor " but the numbers don't work out. Cost of paying money out for tuition ( after your Bachelor's Degree) and income missed for 4 years after Bachelor's degree, $ 80,000 profit taint worth Blood, Sweat & Tears of that additional 4 years.

I’m on the fence about seeing a chiropractor I hear once you start seeing them they do something to you that you have to constantly see them to feel better but on the other hand, I see all these people getting relief from chiropractors, and I am someone who suffers from tension, headaches and TMJ back pain tension in general and I would like to try it but I hear all these different things

Chiro I saw mentioned nothing about any other ways to address the issues like stretching, strengthening and posture. Every client was treated exactly the same way regardless of symptoms with claims of amazing outcomes from curing deafness to mental disability. Not sure why/how this would work by “popping” every person’s spine the same way regardless of injury.

Once you have a herniated disk why are we trying to manipulate the spine once the damage is done . It's like making the situation worse because at some level your basically having to ignore the pain. So exactly how is that helping someone?

Out of 8 doctors I have had for my back, not one suggested Chiropractor. I asked all of them about it, they all said, stay away or you will make your problem worse. I did go to one chiropractor before doctor number 2. Doctor number 2 said I would have advised you against it. I have not had insurance that covered chiropractor care until this year, but it has to be recommended by doctor.

Chiropractic, naturopathy, homeopathy, crystal healing, energy healing, acupuncture, etc. are all forms of quackery. Be honest.

That's exactly what physical therapy and kinetotheraphy is doing and they are not calling themselves fucking "doctor".

I have permanent visual issues and nerve pain after getting a neck manipulation. I now see static all over my visual field. Idk if I just have to get readjusted to get rid of the visual stuff and nerve pain but I’ve been nervous to go back. It’s been a year and a half and my verve pain greatly improved and I don’t suffer from vertigo anymore but the visual disturbances has not disappeared

“Healthcare Professionals” 😂

Hey Jeff, Are physical therapists or chiropractors best to see when looking at those preventative measures such as posture as you mentioned? Thanks

A chiropractor defends chiropractic. Proper 'spinal hygiene'? Is there a peer-evaluated study as to appropriate hygiene? This is no different than big tobacco claiming the nicotine isn't addictive because of the lack of research data. Good thing I'm sitting down.

When is the best time to see a D.C. and should a D.C. ethically say when a certain ailment is better treated by another specialist?

I'm hearing a lot of claims and not a lot of evidence

I'm studying fysiotherapy right now in Sweden, and so far they haven't even mentioned chiropractic care as a valid option for anything really. And absolutely not as a first treatment for a disc herniation, perhaps as a third option.

I’ve never been to a doctor who hasn’t advocated for appropriate amounts of strength, flexibility, and cardio exercise. Your first point is wrong. This kind of preventative maintenance is exactly what primary care is about.

I have had lots of back pains and problems and have never once been to a chiropractor. Over time my back heals itself. Ii saw my mom go to a chiropractor after she threw out her back. She walked into the chiropractor’s office, she wattled out and sat in the car and cried because the pain was worse than when she went in. She found relief through physical therapy.

Well I been with chiropractor for a while. My Chiro works for his dad, his dad is an old school Chiro and just does a quick crack and go but his son aka my Chiro, shuts the door and goes do these yoga exercises and strengthen your core so you won’t come back here no more unless you want to. Different chiropractors different methods just like different doctors have different methods

My interest is in the technique for muscle knots. I have had a chiropractor deal with them pretty efficiently. I have had a beach massage therapist scam me of my money by only rubbing the skin. And I have had a physiotherapist painfully deal with them over a long period of time. Why the difference?

If you're going to respond and try to disprove Joe Rogan, you need to bring in someone that is not a chiropractor to give you credibility. Doing what you are doing only creates more distrust as you profit from it. If it is legitimate, bring in different types of doctors to side with you.

Sources?

This will be interesting. As both a med student and expert in logical syllogistic structure, I'm curious as to what evidence is here.

So basically you just wasted time proving Joe Rogen even more correct that chiropractic is bs 🙄

MRI and SCIENCE ... the chiropractors worst enemy

Is chiropractic effective long term? I mean after adjustments, massages and letting the patient know how to stretch Please respond!

My chioprator works on multiple people in one room and he only creaks your back he dosent adjust you , my 10 yearold niece can walk on my back for free and its the same and slams the table and just makes noise and you leave felling the same as you did when you came

I’m a young physician and have only been qualified a short time but I had to complete 8 years of further education and training before I was recognised as a board certified medical doctor here in the U.K. I had to complete more exams and observed modular examinations than an astronaut does before NASA send them into space. *We are medical professionals and we work our gluteus maximae to get there!* Chiropractors are not.

I have never ever heard of a physician refer somebody to a chiropractor instead of physical therapy. Where are you getting all this info about chiropractic being the top choice for everything?

Why dont you have links to pier reviewed studies on if there are actual proven medical benefits?

Can you provide the references for all these organizations that clearly state that chiropractic is the primary treatment "that should be done first". Thank you.

I went to Chiropractors since 77 until 2020 a long time. I worked Teamster labor jobs figured this would help. Seemed to keep me out of injury but am not sure. Finally quit going, since the new school Chiropractors tried to sell me everything from vitamins to water bed sessions for 20 bucks. Turned me off that was it. Bottom line pain free not going now.

Great information! Looking for ward to learning more from your video series. I also love my Chiropractor.

Do you guys know Zev Mellman chiropractic

Rogan I agree. Here's why:: Injured at work and I knew my body felt something it never felt before.. The problem is if course insurance/companies don't want to pay for surgery or the value of ones life that one is worth. The insurance company refused my m.r.i because my initial scan did show a problem in my hip and lower back . After many chiropractor appointments I knew that wouldn't solve my problem.. Stay tuned I have a great attorney team . I suggest all get an attorney whose ready to go to trial...!!!