Chomsky on Liberal Disillusionment with Obama 

that's exactly what I thought when I heard that lol

guess the title of this video explains how you got there then

Obama is the reason we have Trump. We had the most divisive president in history with Obama. And that got people so pissed off that they voted in a guy who would return Obama slapping them in the face with Trump bludgeoning his own critics with a crowbar. It’s a way of settling the score by use of excessive punitive action. And the media are the cheerleaders and instigators. The question is when will it end? When will we see past the craziness of it all? That this can’t go on forever without there being a civil war.

Same here!!! I had to turn off the tv after Obama started drone bombing American kids at birthday parties.

@@tomcat8662 divisive how

Thing is though that Trump's attitude is its own PR, whereas Obama's public behavior was methodical and manufactured by his Hollywood campaign managers.

I nearly fell off my chair! Bright guy.

Quite. Trump had no interest in taking powerful interests down a peg, he just wanted to be part of the club. Now that he's won, it's shocking how quickly economic and political elites are acquiescing to power, until you look at his cabinet appointments.

Bam yo.

yep more CEO antiethical anti labor wage etc faith over free thought ... scumdog whatever heirs. n their cocaine binge rape crap...and what

you commies suck big time

ChristianpArfy Parry You don't even know what "commie" means. From the same nation that thinks "socialism" is bad, and that treats "nazis" like nothing more than boogeymen.

Gabriel Mahound Don't mix socialism with humanism #&#

He virtually foresaw Trump. Impressive.

sounds like a libertarian professor of economics ive heard on youtube before

All US mainstream media, including Fox News, understand what is going on. They just go for what gives them money. They represent private interests, and they look at what ppl like to watch and provide more of that

Corporate media doesn't WANT to figure it out and won't host people who have.

As Chomsky has said elsewhere, capitalist media of all kinds does not want an informed market. They want an uninformed, irrational market that is confused and desperate for irrational answers that profit the capitalists.

CNN and MSNBC are the PR organizations he's referring to.

Eamonn Beahan Chomsky’s used to taking questions for nutcases trying to refute his universal grammar theory, that’s why he’s happy when he actually gets a good question.

I hear you. That would be such a feather in s person's cap to be told such a thing from this tremendous intellectual.

LOL, indeed! I confess it would certainly add a bit of swagger to my walk.

I understand: "You're quite bright"

Wow.. lol. Way to aim high with your goals

Sad

I’m also from the future everything is even more fucked

@@thealmanac_4935 fr :((

@@andreasgilpin-falk4099 and with a floundering only slightly successful moderate political wing in power then the timer is set for another pendulum swing back.

True words spoken here TC. I try and try to have legit conversations and discussions on social media and it's practically impossible. People think what they think because it's what they "feel" and what they've been "taught"....NOT what their brains have figured out by being unbiased and reading/watching/learning from MANY different sources and angles. People just walk though life with their blinders on....can only see straight forward....can't be bothered by what's going on around them.

It will be a sad day when Chomsky departs this world. There are few orators who can articulate their arguments as well as he can in such a calm and informative manner. I only hope he's inspired enough people to continue to reach out to others in such a way for the future generation.

TC Just TC Bertrand Russell > Noam > the rest of us dummies. (I don’t really believe that. Just saying I agree with you about him, and that he is and BR was fiercely moral and fiercely rational (to borrow your word, “wise”!)

Gary Mitrovic I think about that often. Trying to enjoy him while he’s here, but a vacuum will need to be filled when he’s gone.

Chomsky is biased towards communism and anarchism

Maybe the result of disillusionment with Trump will be Sanders

true. it was a very good question, and your forecast was/is right on point.

@@Silver6400 Yay. He smells even more like mothballs than Chomsky.

@Rodzilla Still might be, Bernie shifted the overton window pretty well imho regardless. M4A was a foreign concept a few years ago, as was "raising taxes on the rich". Still not sure what that means, but its polling nice. (im kidding about the last bit obviously).

@@Silver6400 ...what disillusionment? Trump had clear goals, delivered on all of them, and more.. criminal reform, right to try, border wall, Jerusalem, taxes, regulations, on and on and on

that is a posibility

the scary part is there some very smart people around Trump, so this is really possible.

austin M I don’t think Trump is stupid, and I never said that, but now that you brought it up, let me tell you, I know Trump is stupid, as any normal personal with semi functioning brain would tell you.

@austin M trump sounds like an idiot because hes a conman, which to everyone not buying his bullshit would sound like an idiot. However, like a conman, he knows how to find an audiance and work them like clay. Gotta give it to him, hes the most successful grifter con artist the US has ever seen. His capabilities fall short on objective good faith negotiations, actually sustainable legislation, and staff retention, but thats not his suit or his goal. Dont judge a fireman by his ability to land a 747.

@@lonotalonota5779 spot on. Well said.

Likewise.

dac314 what to do now ...../ bcoz the zombies r here N they r immune to death .... sad america U r reaping the fruits of what u have bared....

i'm here from the future to tell you it's about to get worse

@@michaelcollins966 we are seeing it is so.

Yeah, I have a struggle...

@@whatever5575 Show me the reticence to fund a border wall and you'll show me their political power. Define "minority".

They are NOT politically powerless. Whites are slated to enter minority status in America in 2042. The gravy train of beating up and beating on white people for political gain is coming to an end.

@@paulmerring1607 in that case, the whites are overly represented, as we speak, no?

No. You must be awfully stupid if you think a majority likes to be replaced no matter what that majority says. There is a fight going on about this in case you haven’t noticed. I think what you’re trying to say is because they are numerous yet not politically, they are powerless. You must be young. A replacement of such a large majority of this magnitude has never happened before in the history of the world and so damn quickly. They haven’t moved into the political sphere for several reasons but the major one is they haven’t been here THAT long.

@Matt S lol. Everyone likes to compare shit to Germany, but other than those 10 years, Germanys pretty epic in just about every facet.

austin M the first people Hitler killed and threw into camps were Socialists and Trade Unionists, aka his main opposition. Nazis adopted the socialist label due to its popularity in Germany at the time. The poem “first they came for..” ring a bell?

@@placidpenguin4439 the party was "the national socialist party" a family in Germany could get a government loan, enough for a car and a house. The government gave 20% forgiveness on loan for having a child. Have 4 kids, the government would essentially give for free. Sounds socialist to me. What you aren't connecting is that the Nazis opposition were also socialist lol.

@@placidpenguin4439 also do you think authoritarian does not fall on the left?!? You can have a king who is good or bad, large powerful government always creates authoritarian states. First they came for THE GUNS, then the speech.

@@jeesusmeesuss5247 Authoritarian regimes are independent of political dynamics. Some garner their momentum from Right or Left leaning social philosophies. Hitler would be considered a FAR Right- leaning, FASCIST autocrat who embraced the social darwinistic eugenics, anti-semitism, anti- communistic fervor which is in stark contrast to the liberal moral relativism of today, and then. Who are you trying to fool?

This is very true. There's an article called "Noam Chomsky, Closet Capitalist" from the Hoover Institution that expounds on your comment quite well

Ernie Reyes the article you’re referencing is more of a lazy smear attempt than a serious criticism of Chomsky

@@asad2918 did you even read the article? It's not even a criticism. It was shedding light and exploring a point, not arguing a stance. The author even had direct correspondence with Chomsky...

Even more significant: he says what he thinks out loud - very rare!

@@fietspompje259 I don't see that as a criticism. It's quite true, and the irony is that most people who criticize capitalism in the US largely benefit from it...

Lol realistically speaking, it didn't.

@@Star-fb2zb the tremendous irony here is that view is supported only the mainstream media and those who are utterly detached from reality...

@@erniereyes1994 Mainstream media doesn't support Bernie Sanders. Mainstream media is controlled by Republicans and Democrats.

@@Star-fb2zb if you include social media as part of the mainstream media (which I would argue is), then yes, the MM does support Sanders via Twitter and Facebook (based on SM users)

@Sammy N you're stuck so far up your own paranoia that if anything that doesn't resemble in any way conspiratorial and not further your cultural Marxism, you consider everyone except yourself blind, which is remarkably rich...

Michael Langer He's an anarchist. As in, he wan't to dissolve the state and replace it with a system of bottom-up, direct democracy organised through confederated self-governing communities. So no, I doubt it. He may have recommended voting for Jill Stein in the last election but only to demonstrate that there were other options.

Michael Langer Indeed, he endorsed Bernie. :P

+Ammario R Can't find any evidence of that on the Internet. I suspect it's little but wishful thinking on your part.

+Ammario R Considering Bernie Sanders is the complete opposite of what Chomsky wrote on his personal beliefs. Mr. Sanders is for a super state with more power, as Chomsky wants to dissolve state power. Chomsky is really starting to fall apart. It's very sad as he was one of the most brilliant minds. He is now just another old fart who can hardly keep anything together.

+Jason Bay Such a disingenuous appraisal of Bernie Sanders' positions. Sanders is not for military expansion, expansion of police powers or enhancement of the surveillance state, eliminating the corporate influence over the state. He advocates for a broad social welfare net, yet you consider that enhancing state power. He advocates for comprehensive campaign finance reform that would once again restore democracy back to the hands of the people, yes you consider enhancing state power.

Walter Williams we got lucky

And thank Dog we did!.

He is a socialist crackpot. I heard him promote Environmental Justice. This is verbatim not a skew. This is Left of typical Leftist positions of justice and equality. Liberals live in a fantasy world. Reality often evaporates their daydreams yet refuse to adjust to it. They want reality to adjust to their dreams. Isn't that called insanity?

Joe Schmoe Liberals are centrist, not left. I largely despise Liberals and I'm well to the left of them and sanders.

Joe Schmoe sanders is HARDLY a leftist. He is one, but he's way to the right of Chomsky or me.

I don't think you can break sand, do you? Exactly, you can't. Having a GDP that goes well beyond what is expected doesn't make a country rich, having an increased GDP however, is synonimous to "class" distinction, making poor poorer and rich richer. With logic you can see things as they are: Rich people will buy what the poor can't, meaning building more industries and things like walmart and so on. People that seek a job need to work so they may start an enterprise their own, if they wish, but that is really hard because they don't have as many choices as the ones that came before did. Meritocracy? Why is meritocracy a thing today- "I worked so that I can afford a house and other things too" but how come people that also wish these things cannot have them without being in danger, meaning they survive paycheck to paycheck? Maybe it's because people use other people to work, giving them just what they need to get by. To me, it's already ruined, and with time, will be born again

@Golden Knight do you know what either of those means? Typical buzzwords used against a man who wants to better the country

Michael S RU-vid doesn’t really want people to know this shit. This shit is dangerous for mega companies that are fattening themselves quite nicely on the status quo. An ignorant and uninformed populace is much easier to control. Why do you think despite all the crying over the state of our terrible education system, it all has amounted to nothing- no real change because why change something that’s working so well for the people in power. It’s working just like they want it to. Scary and sad. We have to share the shit out of this ourselves because I highly doubt RU-vid would let this go viral.

Mrlimabean01 America is looking for a leader. Bernie Sanders could not lead flies to raw meat. He has never exhibited any leadership. When has he ever debated anyone and convinced them his idea was the best. Leaders have to understand when problems exist, envision a start to a solution and then convince others there is a problem and further draw them into the start and encourage them to seek a better solution. Bernie Sanders was happy to get elected and finally have a regular paycheck. That's the only problem he's ever solved. His constituency keeps him around for comedic effect and one less bum in their hometown.

who is americas leader for 2016 then michael? Bernis is literally doing everyrhing you just said so i dont know if youre trolling. I could literally go find a dozen speeches where he says "lets get the debates started early", as well as news interviews where he expresses interest in debating the republican candidates before the primaries start. Thats one thing. Also, if bernie sanders' plan for investment in infrastructure and progressive economic agenda isnt "a better solution", i fail to see how ANY OTHER CANDIDATE RUNNING IN 2016 has LITERALLY ANYTHING you said on bernie. Please michael, tell me who meets your criterea for american president 2016, im dying to know

+Mrlimabean01 Don't even take Michel Starker seriously, he is talking straight out of his ass.

+Mrlimabean01 i see you're falling for it all over again.....bernie 15 is a repeat of obama 8....state problems that people can easily identify, offer no solutions but create the illusion that you will solve the problem. when are voters going to really wake the hell up? THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. THERE ARE NO POLITICAL SAVIORS.....listen to what chomsky is really saying

You call me naive, I call you a cynic, but its worth noting who's making the sweeping statements. Chomsky is saying we have political problems, and if you think a political solution isnt viable, I'd like to hear what is.

chris S. trump winning is a good thing you idiot. dont you like a good economy and low unemployment?

Yup. He basically predicted the Trump phenomena before it even happened. Trump was the answer to middle America's grievance. Let's just hope that they don't get more than what they bargained for.

Stop the Philosophical Zombies Let’s hope something changes or god help them with the next president or the 1 after that

Anyone who paid attention to WWII could have predicted it. It's the same story. Chomsky is smart, but predicting that a demagogue seizes an opportunity like that doesn't require brains.

it is not. read marx and you'll discover he says very little about socialism and government. socialism is workers owning the means of production. simple as that. richard d wolff has a great series of videos explaining socialism.

That would be closer to fascism

coleman2586 why do you hate him?

+Bjarne Søegaard er du en dansk Bernie supporter?

+oriondrums2 yep

bare nysgerrig, hvilket parti i Danmark har du støtte? Jeg ønsker at se, hvor Bernie står i dansk politik. i also just want to practice my danish with a dane haha

oriondrums2 Hvor bor du? Er du amerikaner med danske forældre eller hvordan?

Jeg er amerikansk og mine forældre ikke er dansk, men mine familie har meget gode danske venner. (gonna have to switch here because i don't know enough) I really am just trying to learn danish because i love linguistics/phonetics/phonology and danish has some really really interesting phonological features that are incredibly unique for germanic/indo-european languages. Plus I have always thought scandinavia was dope as fuck with great systems of welfare and a political system that represents the extremes of pretty much the entire spectrum.

What does Chomsky have to do bayesian reasoning? Besides both being awesome that is ;-)

bill grant If you think Beck and Limbaugh actually tell you what’s going on. There’s a serious problem in this country.

And if you think CNN and MSNBC are telling the truth, then you have a bigger problem

bill grant LOL he never even mentioned them. Classic knee jerk reactionary what-aboutism, I bet you get a lot of that from Fox. All the main stream media bullshitters are not to be trusted - totally self interested. You have to look to the few truly knowledgeable and honest out there like Chomsky. You can’t get much truth on TV or the radio friend, something I suspect the previous commenter realizes, which is why he wasn’t the one to mention them.

They tried that in the past, it was called Jim Crow.

@@otrnam1 It seems that no matter what can possibly be ventured, human nature will defeat any hope of improving our situation, my friend.