Choose the RIGHT echo set! Don't make this Mistake! 

2:11 "children calculus book" SORRY this took me out 🫠😆

Another day, another "Avoid mistakes" WuWa video.

One thing i will say about this game is to focus on crit rate rather than crit damage, or even a perfect ratio. So many characters in this game are more "death by a thousand cuts" rather than a single huge attack. It's better to crit MORE than to crit FOR MORE. Obviously later on into the endgame when we can min max our stats the perfect ratio will be the best, but for now just focus on getting as much crit rate as possible even with 0% crit damage.

OMG not that "Avoid mistake" thumbnail

i just realized its like trying to collect the 5 pieces of exodia xD

i feel like if you did tutorial videos for software engineering, i'd watch it with full attention

my 4 4 3 1 setup hitting like a truck

Interesting hadn’t considered the interim 3333 dmg% til we can get a proper 43311 but it does make sense. It also seems like the only one who could use 44111 effectively is Baizhi on the ER set to get 2x healing bonus & take advantage of the flat HP on the 1 costs.

Holy crap I was just doing optimization for calculus HW 😭 flashbacks.

I find the hard part to actually be having enough exp and tuners for the echoes rather than finding the golden echoes in the right set. Compared to genshin, where you can just throw trash artifacts in as exp and don’t need a limited resource like tuners to get the sub stats.

dear god i hope i didnt " MAKE THIS MISTAKE! " . I better watch😂

It seems like 4, 3, 3, 1, 1 is what your supposed to do based off the cost limit but you could possibly go 4, 4, 1, 1, 1 too for more crit stats. Seems interesting but probably not so good haha Edit: Ah you said it in the video oops

So to summarize things up: Right Stats is better than set bonuses. But having a good stats and set bonuses is even better?

Unless you have resources to upgrade your echoes, making the 5 set is just a free damage boost. Since your echoes will be lvl 1 when you're broke ;D

UPDATE: With the recent update, Lingering Tunes with the Mech Abomination echo (cost 4) proves to be even better than the elemental sets for certain characters! (percentage compared to the elemental BIS set) 1. Calcharo: +2.57% 2. Danjin: -1% 3. Rover Havoc: -2% 4. Jiyan: -4% Honestly, it's definitely better to go for the Lingering Tunes set; it's very effective AND offers the best flexibility (1 set for all your main DPS) !

I watched vid about CN calculation with 44111 cr cd 3x atk was 7& higher dmg than 43311 on havoc rover

You are NOT entirely correct: 1. The Lingering Tunes set is not bad at all. According to calculations on Prydwen, elemental sets are only slightly better. For example, they are 3.6% better for Danjin, 4% better for Calcharo, and 10.4% better for Jiyan. Compared to your current set (3-3-3-3 elemental with no set bonus), the Lingering Tunes set is superior because of its bonus set. 2. Essentially, you sacrifice a small amount of damage for a set that works on any DPS character, which is a significant advantage in the early game. The smartest strategy is to build one good Lingering Tunes set for all your main DPS characters and THEN build a set for each element. 3. You need three teams to run the Tower of Adversity, meaning you will need three full sets of Echo (or at least two if you use two Havoc teams). Running the same element (two Havoc teams, for example) will result in a 25% loss of bonus on one tower, but you could mitigate this with Jiyan on the Aero Tower or Calcharo on the Electro Tower. 4. Additionally, some players (myself included) have pulled the Emerald Sword (crit rate) and Jiyan’s signature (crit damage). You can also use Broadblade#41, which provides energy for Calcharo and Jiyan, so not all weapons grant ATK%. 5. Lastly, I don’t play Verina, so I don’t benefit from the ATK% buff, but I believe I’m in the minority in this regard 😂 Conclusion : first, prioritize flexibility by building one Lingering Tunes set for your DPS, one Moonlit Clouds set for your sub-DPS, and one Rejuvenating Glow set for your support. Afterward, aim for elemental sets to increase (slightly) your damage output.

Thanks for the guides. Might be easier to visualize if you could use a visual example to compare the damage / numbers. Also do you have any tips on getting Echo Exp apart from Tacet Fields?

Been running a 4,4,3,1 setup, and since im farming dreamless nonstop, this works for both my havoc rover and danjin. Been able to reach around 50% crit rate and 200% crit damage with minimum effort :>

Well the +60% damage for outro skill is nice tho for hacov rover

yeah, this game may be THE HELL GRINDING.

You're the best WW channel rn I hope you keep on making lots of more vids like eplo guides😊

my guy said children calculus book while im here a grown ass man having a hard time understading this children book D:

not gonna lie, if they made 4piece stats instead of 5piece, it would be much less grindy to go for godroll stats. ive done these in both destinies, i dont wanna be doing them here (not that it would be hard, it would be just a hassle)

Im just gonna go for the main stat. Best way to go for the start

Im just waiting for a the free 5 star weapon for crit. After which I'll have 75% crit chance and 240% crit dmg

Ah yes! Another "Avoid mistake" video after I've already done the mistake 😂

I’m using calcharo and I’m not sure if I should use thundering mephis as my main echo because prydwen says to use flautist echo

Thoughts on 4431 setup?

43311 messed me up a bit (got trashed when using the transformation a aiming for whole combo) so I've been using rainbow 3*4 but now after learning the CANCEL mechanics xD 43311 seems feasible

Didn't mention energy regen... most important stat to ensure is on at least 2 or so of the pieces.

I have farmed Havoc DMG Roseshroom with Havoc set for 2 days already but ended up getting a bunch of Glacio DMG Roseshroom with Glacio set but not a single Havoc DMG one LOL, I'm suffering now.

I have 5 piece for Calcharo 48cr 223cd with 4star Atk weapon

Basically, same shit as genshin, star rail: rainbow set

The content farmers still at it

I do agree about at the current state 44111 is not worth it because the low base attack. But if you run 5 elemental set, you get 40% damage bonus anyway. If you put 2 elemental bonus set, you get additional 44%.. But to achieve this isn't easy task AT ALL as you said.

Bro's wig so fake it makes bald people proud.

Looks like a lot of work...

what, so 1 costs cant give flat atk or cr/cd%? I've been looking for those and recycled all others wtf

I have 4set of aero set only missing 1 echo that cost 1 for 5set bonus for jiyan.. His stat paper is now Atk 1445 Def 861 Er 150.5% Crit rate 50.1% Crit dmg 216% The only 4* echo was ER couse is really really hard getting ER echo for 5* men.

You must talk about the havoc rover

I can't wait to found out that i already did the mistake!

Lingyang guide when?

I got 4 Aero dmg bonus on aero set pieces and only 3 1star atk% pieces… RNG is a weird drug sometimes

i wonder if they will expand the echo sets and give us new ones in the future because rn it seems like there is not much room for that

HUGE MISTAKE BRO

This is the thing I hate most about the game, keeps you playing by the wrong reason

meanwhile other youtubers promoting lingering tunes a 'fits all units for tower later' kinda deal.. also moonlight is better than the rejuvenating one for verina? would u ever use rejuv?

shouldnt the 5pcs set be only 4pcs because right now any echo on the wrong set is completely useless so there is no reason to kill most of the echos in the game after you get the 5 star once, and also any elemental dmg on the wrong set is also useless. i hope they change it to 4pcs in the future

Wouldn't 4 4 1 1 1 get better if specific element buffers like yinlin come out

Do you go 4x3 even on the sub dps and support or only the main dps

I understand it's early days yet but I am curious about whether it's better to put characters like yuan wu or mortefi on support sets with bird or going for damage sets.

Demo some benchmarks please

is forcing 5-piece set okay before you're like UL30 though? since at that moment you aren't really farming echoes too hard yet.

Two questions, at the end of the vid he says to put the corresponding element set onto the character. For the subdps slot, would you use the element damage set, or moonlit set? Currently running two teams, team 1 Havoc MC, Sanhua, Verina/baizhi. Team 2 Jianxin, Mortefi, Verina/baizhi. For both Sanhua and Mortefi I'm a little confused on what to run. Second question is a follow up, if you use element damage set on subdps, would you use moonlit on the healer, or rejuvenating glow?

At the current moment, I have Echo Sets i would like to level. What would be the best way to farm Echo exp material? (Above Union Lv30 + Lv18 Data Bank.)

My mortifi is S6 has crit rate 56.4% crit dmg 213% wondering how I got it following this dudes instruction bruh Edit: Er 183%

Where is the Danjin guide bro? 😭😭😭

This guy got trolled so hard he actually started running 3333....

Umm no i have crit rate on 3costs

If that video was out 4 days ago sure, but game has been out for long enough for u to have a complete set of legendaries, i have grinded 3 (crit elem elem atk atk) sets already, just takes 2-6 hours per set, better than investing in offset pieces and then scrap them

what can I do to my unwanted Upgraded Echoes?

i'd honestly say you're downplaying the Lingering Tunes (ATK set) a bit, mainly because you can use the 2-piece effect to mix and match with your elemental set bonus until you get something useable, and you can even improve the 3/3/3/3 setup you mentioned by making the echoes be 2pc of your DPS's element + 2pc Lingering. there's also the fact that you can make a "universal set" out of the Lingering pieces that you can use on any character, which, while it may not be the strongest setup, you can put them on one character in Tower of Adversity, clear a specific floor, then unequip them to give to a different character on a different floor. this lets you take advantage of the fact that while you have limited times to use a character in the Tower, you can _still use everything equipped to your old character on a new one._ this includes weapons and echoes.

Tenten quick question about calcharo how much electro DMG he should have currently sitting on 92% without one 3 cost and planning to get yinlin should I get electro DMG or atk% 3cost

I bought the 2 echoes selection box from the illusive realm after clearing the 4th difficulty and chose the havoc set for both of them. This made it less rng when it came to obtaining decent pieces for the 3 cost echoes.

Yo im like mid game rn but where do i get the crownless with the yellowish gold outline? I do the tacet and just get green outlined crownless

Where are the danjin Videoo

How about main havoc in the nuke build, it's rotation is barely use basic attack or heavy attack to make use of the havoc set. So should i use 2 2 set instead?

what about the energy recharge 5 set for sub-dps like sanhua and mortefi?

Where is Danjin guide?

HUUUUUUUGE MISTAKE!!⚠⚠📉

Is there an optimal crit ratio to aim for or is it different for every character?

true if its not even.. it's not a Square but a Rectangle..... also a box can be made of a mix of Squares and rectangle... so you should use a Square or a Cube metaphor instead! also a cube made of rectangle is called a cuboid

Is a 4 4 1 1 1 good ?

How do u get yellow echo ? high UL or sth ?

Do you even look at the camera or are you looking at a script but forgot to look at the camera?

you dont need 2x 3cost elemental dmg bonus,you fine with just 1 since the bonus from 5 piece set will give you this elemental bonus anyway, so its worth

yuh

Need a video for how to animation cancel with calcharo

I noticed it today as well... 4-4-1-1-1 is indeed pretty bad. It just can't compete with 60% elemental damage from two 3-cost. I was so happy to find a good Dreamless and good Crownless Echo for my Havoc character... but it's just not worth it.

How can you use the wrong echo sets, i don't understand. Read and you'll understand what your character needs. If you tell me "i deal no damage" and i see that you have equiped Aero set on Calcharo, yea just uninstall the game and go back to genshit. Its very easy to build a character in the game, but getting the right stats will always be time consumming. Elemental damage set for Mdps. (4 3 3 1 1 or 4 4 1 1 1), main stats Crit rate, crit damage, elemental damage, ATK / DEF / HP depending on the scaling of that character. Buff set for Support. (4 3 3 1 1), main stats Recharge, ATK / DEF / HP depending on the scaling of that character. Heal set for healer. (4 3 3 1 1), main stats Healing bonus, Recharge, ATK / DEF / HP depending on the scaling of that character. Not that hard. To add more to it, 4 4 1 1 1 is much easier to build for the beginning of the game because you won't have to worry too much on farming for days to get the right cost 3 echo with the correct elemental damage. 4 3 3 1 1 is very tedious and time consumming, it will take you a very long time to get what you need so use 4 4 1 1 1 for now until you are lucky enough.

honestly, you talk so fast and it's just really hard to understand anything when there's so much cramped up info with stats and gearing. not all of it of course but some parts of the video

I am clearing every single 3 cost enemy on the map for the relevant sets every single day and let me tell you, from the almost thousand 5 star echoes I farmed, the 3 cost %atk ones I can count on a single hand, not to mention all the elemental dmg combinations... also rerolled an unethical amount of 1 costs for crit stats and people saying genshin is bad... oh boy you're in for a ride optimizing your characters :D But it will probably bump up a bit with the 80% chance at UL40.

Doesnt this burn out your echo leveling materials as is...like I only see this useful *IF* you want to rush the endgame content

not me using havoc character and pick other than havoc echoe because it has havoc boost damage 🌚 "fuk the set , we going full damage with this one 🗣️🗿"

Isnt the attack set good early game since you can switch it between characters in tower of adversity

u must be super bad in the game not understanding the echo system lol, i just auto equip and ignore the whole system till data rank 15