Choosing Pepper Spray for Everyday Carry 

I had a guy come at my car with a bat while i was sitting in the driver seat...he walked up,tapped on my window with his bat,i rolled the window down about 3" he tried to put his face up to the window to look in my car and i unloaded pepper spray right in his eyes at point blank range...I never seen anyone retreat so quickly. I drove off and went about my day...a nonlethal ending to a bad situation and a learning experience for Mr. Agressive Bat Boy!

Pepper spray is an underrated self defense product. You'll probably catch a lot of shit for saying it's more useful than carrying a gun, but you're absolutely correct.

My sister was attacked in an RV near a collage and grabbed some fuel injection cleaner then sprayed them in the face and eyes. She told me that they never made it out of the RV and just rolled around on the floor until the police arrived. She did tell me that she resprayed them if they tried to stand up.

I love the philosophy of this channel. Informative, practical self defense tips. Please don't change.

Ok, so I have the bear spray and I practiced with an extra in my back yard. The wind changed. My pregnant wife, mother in law, and 2 kids hated me for 30 minutes.. my back yard is 80 yards up a hill. I had no idea how nasty that stuff is.. Edit: mother in law still hates me.

Once you think about the legal consequences of using a firearm against an assailant who's unarmed, then having to convince a judge or jury that you honestly felt your life was in danger, pepper spray makes a lot of sense as a non-lethal option. Thanks for the thorough tutorial, Chris (and all your other thoughtful reviews).

In most states you can carry a gun, knife and pepper spray. In Canada you can carry pocket knife and pepper spray. In the UK, guns, knives and pepper are forbidden, but you can carry CMD . CMD is Criminal Marking Dye . Honestly.

As someone who's been exposed to OC several times, this was both informative AND gave me PTSD.

"Unintentional pocket discharge"..... Happens to the best of us. :p

I've always carried pepper spray, especially since I'm originally from New Jersey and when not working security or armored car, I couldn't carry a gun. I've used it a grand total of once, against a Doberman that got loose from its yard and starting running towards me barking. Now I live in Pennsylvania, got my permit to carry and I still carry pepper spray. Just makes sense.

I listened to this without video and didn't realize u were talking about dummies. I was like, damn, this dude has some dedicated ass friends 😂

I agree wholeheartedly. When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem starts looking like a nail.

Great review. As a former LEO. I can attest that this works. Long story short. 3 days on the job I had to use this on a group. I was riding shotgun with my training officer and learned immediately make sure your cruiser window is down before you use it. It worked. On me.

I applaud Lucky Gunner (an ammo company) for giving us self-defense content about non-firearms! Many companies would limit themselves to plugging their own products. Maybe Lucky Gunner should start carrying pepper spray also? -- become an all-around self-defense company? I would love to see a video on how to harden your home against invasion!

My sabre 3-in-one keychain spray deployed yesterday while loading up some furniture. Pain. And. Suffering. I had coverage from my mid-abdominals all the way down to mid-thigh. Barely missed my groin (Whew!). I can't imagine what it would be like to take a direct hit to the face with this stuff. It took a LONG time for the burning to subside. It seemed to intensify for about 10-15 minutes before it stopped feeling like someone was poking me with needles. And a friggin huge chemical burn. I am definitely NOT carrying the turn and press safety type on my person anymore. Also, this experience gave me much more confidence in the stopping power this stuff has. Pretty much ruined my day. So, good job, Sabre! Keep peddling your pain and suffering. I'll keep recommending it.

Solid work Chris. Thanks for the mention. Appreciate it a lot.

"He has personally been exposed to OC well over 60 times" F

I worked in private security for 27 years. Carried sabre red stream and had to use it a few times. Results were good and it did what it was supposed to do.

I agree with almost everything you have said; your assessment of OC/CS formulas is an exception. OC and CS have two different methods of action and affect the body differently. This is why when I was a working police officer, I found OC/CS mixtures were more effective on more intoxicated and psychotic people than OC alone. To say that CS merely dilutes OC is inaccurate.

POM Personal defense , it’s nasty stuff and I recommend it highly Update: John had to change his slogan because POM complaint their product being associated with nasty stuff

Thanks for the PSA about the Kimber, that will save some people legal trouble.

I work in a jail for the past 11 years. I carry a 4 oz. Sabre Red at work, and carry Fox 5.3 out of work. The Sabre is good if you get a clear shot (I have 17 sprays of violent offenders), won't stop them, but will slow them down. We are not allowed to have Fox 5.3, it is considered too strong by the state where I work, while the local PD won't carry it because they think it is too close to "excessive use of force".

“Gives you a force option, somewhere between harsh language, and shooting somebody.” Why has no one pointed out that incredible dad joke?

As a Correctional Officer, I got a 3 second blast from 1 foot away directly in my eyes. I've also had to enter spaces where it's been deployed. The most important thing to understand is that it effects people differently. I've seen it completely incapacitate someone. I've also seen it piss someone off even more than they were originally. And we have the strong stuff!

Wish the can listed the calories per serving

Great information. I carry a Sabre Red MK-4 in my vehicle. On my person, I used to carry Sabre Red 3 in 1 Compact but had the same issue you had with the activation button sliding off of safe. I now carry a POM. I pull of the base of the POM and make a note of the expiration date. When I reassemble the POM, I position the clip in line with the nozzle and put a dab of glue on the colored ring. That way I have a tactile indication of the direction of the nozzle. The clip naturally sits in the crease of the finger joints in the middle of my hand.

Been a Correctional Officer for a little over a year. We carry Sabre Red. Before my time It was Fox. Dont do gel as it requires much better aim, and can be too thick to drop down the forehead in time. It truly is an indispensable tool!

Great video. I have been carrying POM for about a year and have been very happy. Comfortable in the pocket. Other canisters have sharp edges that will gouge you. A great tool to add to EDC. Keep up the good work Lucky Gunner crew!

Pro Tips - Check your state laws as some states limit the maximum size allowed. California, for example, limits canister size to 2.5 oz max. Ladies, don't just toss the can anywhere in your purse. You'll never be able to find it in time. If you're going to purse carry it, figure out a way...like a holster or similar...where you can store it in a solid location, where it won't come loose, so you know exactly where it's at A black canister may be very difficult to locate in a purse...especially in the dark. Pink or something bright might be a better choice.

I'm former LEO, so I have some experience with OC... I switched brands to one that the deputies were using, after I soaked a guys face, and he still evaded several officers, and a K-9 tracker... My recommendation, and go-to is FOX... It's 2% OC... Stronger then the standard LEO issue, but legal for anyone to purchase if your state allows it... I carry the Fox Five Point Three in stream... They have varied sizes... I carry the 1.5 oz in a snap case that has a belt clip... Stick it on your belt, shorts, or whatever pants you're wearing... You'll find, as I did, that bad guys get use to the traditional OC used by LEO's and jails, and it has little to no effect on them...

I have the POM one too. Great video, I'm glad you took the time to make this comparative demo!

Just something to be aware of: in some states it's a crime to use bear spray against humans - even in self defense in cases where lethal force would be justifiable. It's asinine but it can get you hung up if you don't know.

Thanks for posting! I've never thought of using pepper spray, but my interest in self-defense has been peaked recently. I will take a look and I think the practice sprays will be very beneficial to learn how to use it if necessary. Thanks and keep it up!

"Getting OC on your junk will ruin your day pretty quickly." I can definitely confirm that. The poor guy wondered if he'd ever be able to use *it* again. 😂

You spend a lot of time and effort on your videos and they are very much appreciated.

This is what I love about this channel. This video works for people who are interested in getting one but also for people who sell them so they can pass it on to their customers.

Chris, you are a wealth of information. I can't thank you enough for your educational mentoring. With today's civil unrest and political chaos between parties...this is timely stuff. Thanks for your well thought out presentations and time to develop these videos. Job well done.

You know, I think the beginning statement about recommending atleast pepper spray is a very important one that I wish more people would consider. It’s too often I see anyone that could be in danger due to who they are forego having any defense simply because they are for gun control. It’s important for everyone that is even remotely in danger to have any defense & I wish more people would preach that, especially on the left.

I have been carrying POM for about a year, everywhere I go, and I love it. Thanks for the tip about locating the expiration date; this is the first I have heard of it. One thing I don't like about it: I would like for the clip to be more secure. I keep it clipped to the waistband of my running shorts, and sometimes, if I am not careful, it has a tendency to pop off of my waistband. (Once it popped off my waistband at the crowded starting line of a race; I am glad I was aware of it falling off!) Now, I am just mindful of that tendency, and it hasn't been a problem since that incident. Overall, I like POM, and I will intend to continue using it.

You are my go to channel for good, honest and accurate information. Keep up the good job 👍. Thanks

I got hit by a couple of CS grenades during field exercises. The effect was pretty instant when I get hit by the cloud. My equipment is still kinda spicy a year later.

If you carry lethal defense weapons, you should also carry non-lethal as well. You’re much more likely to need non-lethal than lethal force.

Always the BEST quality self defense information with demos and real world testing. Thank you!

As a LEO with different departments I’ve been sprayed and had accidental, incidental, and contact with OC and CS on numerous occasions. OC works well and in my state, NY, is equal to physical force. I prefer OC to hands on and short of a taser it is the best less than lethal option. I like Asp Palm series sprays; I carry the defender which is similar in size to a mini mag light. Asp has inert canisters for training and OC canisters as you reload the device just like putting batteries in a flashlight. Also makes 3 different sizes of their palm series and all can easily go on a key ring of in a pocket. I’ve also carried a few brands and used stream, fogger, cone, and foam. I preferred foam due to its effectiveness at distance as well as the very reduced blow back in wind. As a note foam doesn’t do much against dogs; in my experience stream and fogger stops dogs in their tracks. Regardless of what you carry you should practice with it. And take a lesson from law enforcement once you use it toss it because once used they can leak and not work the next time, when you may need it. Start in the chest and work up to the forehead then go back down. Be careful with stream sprays and needle effect; this is where the spray acts like a needle and can, at close ranges, actually damage an eye.

British police, we use Pava and it's nasty stuff, I've had it used on me in training and I've used it on aggressive suspects and it's super effective. I'd recommend holding the can close to your chest rather than out at arms length, aim low and move the stream up as you spray to get the mouth nose and eyes

“After recent testing, I’ve added POM self defense spray to my everyday carry... it’s nasty stuff, and I recommend it highly”

I worked in security and corrections as entry level and management for 15 years. My personal experience with OC is that its effective against "clear headed" individuals but hardly at all against drug addled or mentally ill or just highly motivated people. I see it as more of a compliance/ deterrence device more so than a self defense device.

The bit about accidental pocket discharges with the slide type safety is absolutely true. I had it happen to me twice before I switched from that Sabre Red canister to POM flip top dispenser.

'It looks like a breath spray but surprise...It's extra spicy!' love it! great video

I have relied on those little Saber Red Pepper Pens at times, when the wife drags me to the opera where they have a no-self-defense policy and force you through a metal detector, the little pen sprayer is the only thing I can reliably get through the metal detector.

im so grateful for lucky gunner videos. You are super humble and I respect your opinion a lot because of it.

Excellent Vid as always, changed my thinking on OC. As a CCW carrier I think OC as a first use is great. God forbid you have to keep going up the force continuum.

I can only imagine that if you ended up in court over a shooting and had used OC it would show that you tried to avoid using your firearm.

I’m a police OC, taser and firearms instructor (certified by Sabre, Axon and the state). Been exposed to the first 2 myself, thankfully not the 3rd. OC spray and taser effectiveness are wildly different. For OC I was able to continue fighting and keep my eyes partially open for about a minute before my eyes shut and I had to wash it out of my eyes. Took me about an hour to feel normal and it reactivated later that night when I took a shower. Taser was immediately effective, once I got hit with it I was on the ground and in extreme pain for 5 seconds. Once those 5 seconds were over I felt physically exhausted but overall normal. Within about 5 minutes the exhaustion was gone. So basically OC spray isn’t immediately effective and taser is, however I would (hesitantly) get hit with the taser again, I would not want to get hit with the OC spray ever again.

Excellent review of the various Pepper Sprays. I couldn't make up my mind which one to buy, but now I do. Thank you.

Super clear content, no wasted words. Subscribed.

Great video. Have been carrying Pepper Gel for almost a year. Like most gun owners I don't want to hurt anyone. This gives me a way, in certain situations, to just get the bad guys to "back off". Versus waving a handgun around....I like options.

During my training, our defensive gun trainer recommended carrying pepper spray because if you are ever in a shooting situation the court will consider that you gave yourself a choice of less than deadly force.

Very helpful info! I have been considering carrying pepper spray especially when kayaking! I live in the South and encounters with gators is not unheard of!!!

Thank you Fritz and Karl for your help in this video!

One thing that no one on the Internet covers is carry methods for oc spray. Any chance you could make a video on that?

I use it myself and I recommend it highly

This review is spot on. Well done as always.

Thanks for this no-frills discussion and review. Very helpful.

I carry Pom OC everyday. I got the idea from Active Self Protection. Great video! Thanks for your input

Just be aware the flip top Sabre has a tendency to lose its cap. We’ve had two that’s lost it’s caps. It’s better to keep it in your pocket than attached to keys where they can swing around.

Great video. Carrying some form of less than lethal is a must.

Been carrying the POM spray for about a year now. I like to take the one that's in my pocket out and use it for practice every couple months and replace it with a new one. I suggest buying a piece of Talon grip tape and putting it in the opposite side from the pocket clip. It stops the pieces from rotating and it helps a lot when pulling it out.

I demand a follow-up with Johnny Knoxville

Fox Labs Five Point Three pepper spray (stream spray version) is my favorite

I carry POM and have for several months now. ASP really got me on board with that and after doing a bit of training, the efficacy of it is beyond statement. If I leave the house, I make sure I have it on me.

Very helpful. I have the first sabre you showed with the flip top. Purchased that after the first sabre with the thumb switch kept not staying locked. But I will spray before I shoot. Thank you for sharing.

I've used a spray in heavy winds and I probably got just as much OC in my face as my target. Even being equally affected the shock of resistance ended the situation instantly. Not a pleasent experience but it worked. Also: if you get OC on your hands you can't wash them enough, trust me, wash them a LOT... and wear gloves when you visit the mens' room. Don't get OC where OC is not meant to go, its a bad time.

The kimber Guardian angel must not be used under a *2 feet range* : this can damage the eyes, the projected liquid travels so fast (muzzle speed is about 90 mph) that it can penetrate into the ocular globes, causing injuries to the cornea. This is caused by a hydraulic needle effect, it's the principle of jet injector used for vaccination. This distance is 5 feet for the JPX jet protector. Under this distance one have to aim for the upper chest : the hitting liquid (with 270 mph muzzle speed) splatters in small droplets up to the face and is intended to have its effect on the perp. The same could happen with a too powerful pepper spray used 1 inch from the eyes. but obviously, you don't always choose the distance ! greeting from France.

I got into pepper spray from John Correia (ASP)...after carrying a firearm, legally. He says something like, "between a harsh word and a gun"...and his lessons made total sense. I dont wanna shoot (kill) anyone...but i would rather just bless em with the hot sauce...and go on about my day

Really good depth and objective reviews. Thanks!

I’m pretty sure he meant pepper spray gel being used by security in hospitals We don’t typically pepper spray our patients

You're a natural teacher/presenter. Nicely done, and moreover useful! I've been doing some deep dives into OC spray for home and carry, and one reason why people use a three-in-one is because some people are apparently nonreactive to OC. I have heard though people talk about the dilution of the OC in a three-in-one, so it's a toss up for me.

Thanks for the vid. I’ve been considering adding pepper spray to my edc and almost bought some the other day, but realized I had not done nearly enough research.

You really did a great job with this video. Thank you!

Sabre makes a decent product but I have carried Fox Labs 5.3 both professionally or personally for over 20 years. I have been sprayed and sprayed people with different products. Fox Labs 5.3 has been the most effective one for me.

Great content as usual. I'd like to offer some constructive criticism. If the manufacturer says to do bursts, you shouldn't test it with a continuous spray. Continuous rapid release of the contents drops the temp (and pressure) with diminishing returns if not done in short bursts. It's similar to one of those keyboard air dusters. The performance is awful when held continuously, but short bursts are the ticket to get that extra little bit of velocity out of them.

Thorough and informative as always. Thank you

Excellent vid! I’ve been a Sabre customer for a while but have been thinking about POM. Thanks for the review!

I carry the Sabre gel. It may take a couple seconds longer to work, but I want a zero percent chance of a wind full of pepper spray in my face in a moment where lethal force may be the next option. I have a small lanyard that sticks out of my pocket so I don't have to dig for it It's personal preference I guess.

I once went to the bathroom to take a piss after using oc i did wash my hand but with running water only no soap. I think I'm sterile now!

intelligently researched and presented, thank you. Very informative and interesting.

Pepper spray requires little practice and I always carry it with my gun. No reason not to. After this excellent vid I checked the dates on my stuff and some of them were significantly out of date. I went with the POM this time because of convenient size and easy to use trigger. Thanks for the reminder.

This channel has been putting out some quality content lately

sprayed some in the corner of the bedroom 1 time. got hard to breathe, covered it with clothing and refused to move them. Worst experience i had *from stupidity*

Thank you very much for your information & review. I immediately forwarded it to my daughter as she is not quite ready for concealed carry.

You're saving lives with info. Thank you.

The defender series has to be done in bursts. You cannot just hold it down. I’ve made the same mistake. However, I still didn’t like the performance and moved to POM.

The ASP ones seem like an Anton Chiggur delivery style would work best. "Can you just hold still for me?" LOL

down to earth, thank you Chris.

Love the Kimber pepper blaster... I'm definitely going to check out some more of these though

I can HIGHLY recommend the Def Tech (Safariland) spray at 14:10. I used it in a jail and prison setting. I've seen it used hundreds of times, and used it myself dozens of times. The 1.3% formula he is holding is the strongest formula and I believe it is actually TOO strong as it just annilates people, and destroys the area too (inside). We typically used the weakest 0.2% formula and it works 99% of the time. The much stronger 1.3% formula made my instantly vomit the second I walked into a cell to extract an inmate. The stuff is unbearably strong... I carry the same exact Mark 6 container of Def Tech spray but in 0.7% strength, which is PLENTY strong, in my observation. Out of all the sprays he reviewed, I am of the opinion that the Def Tec 1.3% is the best of the best for daily carry. Strong stuff, and an excellent delivery method and safety system as well.

"voluntary close their eyes". Negative. For me and most people, it is 100% involuntary - the eyes slam shut immediately... been hit twice in training. The stuff is extremely nasty.

Excellent sir, thank you. Detailed enough but doesn't beat the dead horse.

Thank you for the informative video. I actually decided to go with the first Sabre!