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Choosing the Right Asics Metaspeed for you 

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How do you choose the right Asics Metaspeed for how you run? What do you need to know to understand the two primary types of super shoes form all brands?
0:00 Intro
0:58 Stride vs Cadence running
1:30 Asics Metaspeed Paris series
4:06 High Plate vs Low Plate configurations
9:00 Super shoe matrix
12:46 Any questions?
13:29 Outro
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@katiesays
@katiesays 3 месяца назад
Hands down, this is the best video to explain the edge/sky dichotomy. Categorizing other super shoes was incredibly helpful as well. Thank you.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad it was helpful. That is definitely what I was going for. It really is a simple choice.
@finsaether
@finsaether 3 месяца назад
I agree.. Great video.
@AJ3000_
@AJ3000_ 2 месяца назад
Agreed!
@carloshernandezvazquez4359
@carloshernandezvazquez4359 Месяц назад
Agree!
@SpeedGio
@SpeedGio 3 месяца назад
Not even Asics themselves did this. Absolutely mind-blowing. Thank you!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you. I hope it was helpful. 🤙🏻
@TheFODRunner
@TheFODRunner 3 месяца назад
Amazing, enjoyed the breakdown towards the end of the high plate / low plate shoes, thats really darn useful to so many
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad it was useful. The matrix isn’t complete but it should cover enough models to be able to find one frame of reference for most runners.
@erosennin4203
@erosennin4203 3 месяца назад
Can this channel just blow up already? Literally the best running content on RU-vid
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for the support. Working hard on growing the channel for sure! 🤙🏻
@fecardona
@fecardona 3 месяца назад
The matrix at the end was awesome, amazing and appreciate the effort you took to make it and put it together! Congratulations!!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad it was useful. I appreciate you watching! 🤙🏻
@ZaahirJappie
@ZaahirJappie 3 месяца назад
Your videos are unique. I like all this technical nerdy breakdowns.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
It’s what I do here for sure! Glad they are enjoyable. 🤙🏻
@cameronthaijohnson
@cameronthaijohnson 3 месяца назад
I dont necessarily totally agree. I got both and the Metaspeed Edge Paris feels both natural for my stride and I perceive it as softer. I think the closeness of the plate to your foot (just as it can close to the ground) can impact your perception of softness/comfort. I tend to agree that if you have a big powerful bounding stride and are really putting a lot of force into the forefoot to load it, the the Sky Paris is for you. If you tend to not have as big and powerful of a strife or roll over more (including midfoot or rear landings) then the Metaspeed Edge Paris is for you. Furthermore, the Alphafly 3 is more Vaporfly than ever with more roll, higher drop, etc. As someone who wasn't a big Alphafly v1 person for similar reasons to the Metaspeed Sky+ (although Alpha v1 worked better because it was softer), the Alphafly V3 is better for me than ever. Similarly, the Endorphin Elite also works well just like the Pro 3. These shoes don't absolutely destroy my quads by forcing a big powerful stride that changes my gate like the Metaspeed Sky+ did (and to a lesser extent Alphafly v1). Similarly, if you listen to how Puma talks about the "powerful propulsion" vs "lightweight propulsion" of the Fast-R 2 vs the Deviate Elite 3, it appears they are trying something similar and trying to have the Fast-R 2 be that big powerful stride type of shoe. I will say that on the run the Metaspeed Sky/Edge Paris are closer than ever and the difference feels more nuanced. I can run in the Sky Paris without totally trashing my legs now because of the foam improvement, though the Edge Paris does still seem to work better. Both versions are much better than the + versions because of the new foam and lower weight. They still aren't the softest and are kinda on the Pwrrun HG side of things. They are no longer harsh, but are still one of the firmer super foams.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I agree fully that the difference between the MS SP and EP is very nuanced now. It’s as drastic as it was with the Plus series. It is why I feel strongly it comes down to feel (and perception as you pointed out) more than anything now.
@informaniac34
@informaniac34 День назад
The BEST review…. All questions asked in one video…. Thanks!!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning День назад
I’m glad this was useful. 🤙🏻
@MedicineRunner
@MedicineRunner 3 месяца назад
Dude this was incredible. By FAR the best explanation. You should teach (if you don’t already).
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Ha. Partly that is why I started the channel… to educate… so win/win! 🤙🏻
@capeflattery6179
@capeflattery6179 3 месяца назад
I don't think I've ever heard a simpler, more complete explanation of the carbon plate shoe configurations. I would consider myself a stride runner who likes to feel the ground. That probably comes from getting my start as a sprinter. What would you consider the Adidas Takumi Sen or the Puma Fast-Fwd Nitro?
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Definitely the Takumi Sen for you… the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite is another one I’d look at… also you may really like the Vaporfly if you have never run in it before. Avoid the Puma Fast-FWD could be interesting for you but I think the Deviate Nitro Elite is a better bet.
@DrBulbulia
@DrBulbulia 7 дней назад
Best shoe review I’ve come across, clear, develops a higher level perspective and offers meaningful comparisons using the perspective . Thank you. 🙏
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 7 дней назад
I'm glad it was useful and thank you for the kind words on the content! Plenty more on the way. Stay tuned. 🤙🏻
@brianolson5185
@brianolson5185 3 месяца назад
The BEST video explaining these shoes. Thank you!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
That’s what was aiming for. It really is a simple choice for me.
@pidde1234
@pidde1234 3 месяца назад
Stellar explanation! 👏
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@victorillescas8609
@victorillescas8609 3 месяца назад
Amazing detailed analysis. Thank you!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you! 🤙🏻
@Growthharmony2024
@Growthharmony2024 3 месяца назад
Amazing review!! Very detailed
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you. I hope it was useful for you. 🤙🏻
@wesw6787
@wesw6787 3 месяца назад
Fantastic explanation! Thanks you!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
🤙🏻
@basti90milan
@basti90milan 3 месяца назад
Awesome video. Perfectly explained. Thank you so much.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching!
@TroySpringer11
@TroySpringer11 3 месяца назад
Top tier content. Love your comparisons of the top super shoes
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you. Thank you. 🙏🏻
@tojwillcox
@tojwillcox 3 месяца назад
Gosh this is an absolutely fantastic explanation. Thank you!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I hope it was helpful! 🤙🏻
@owenearl9121
@owenearl9121 3 месяца назад
Great summary- very easy to follow
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching!
@joeedgley1211
@joeedgley1211 3 месяца назад
Excellent break down, very helpful and informative. Thanks
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad it was helpful. Happy running! 🤙🏻
@joellopez7182
@joellopez7182 3 месяца назад
Hello. First time I come across your channel. I enjoyed this video! Very informative and exactly the information we all needed! Please keep on posting videos!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad this was useful for you. Plenty more on the way. Stay tuned.
@jmarms
@jmarms 3 месяца назад
Best comparison video out there for these two shoes. Thank you so much for making this!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching! Hopefully it was useful. 🤙🏻
@lilithUdie
@lilithUdie 3 месяца назад
Thanks! That was the best explanation I saw on them
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching! 🤙🏻
@bearsareusjsbl
@bearsareusjsbl 3 месяца назад
What a brilliantly researched and delivered review!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you. Thank you. 🙏🏻
@Rich_GnXFit
@Rich_GnXFit 2 месяца назад
By far best explanation of the difference on RU-vid.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
Thank you. I hope it helped! 🤙🏻
@SantaCruzRunner
@SantaCruzRunner 3 месяца назад
Absolutely stellar explanation of the two types of super shoe. Thank you thank you thank you!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching. I hope it was useful! 🤙🏻
@jonathanwendel7480
@jonathanwendel7480 3 месяца назад
Spectacularly informative and helpful video, the best I have seen on this topic. Just outstanding. Thank you!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad this was useful. Thank you for watching! 🤙🏻
@runtothetopelise
@runtothetopelise 3 месяца назад
The best video on Paris series!!!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching. 🤙🏻
@WiseRunner
@WiseRunner 3 месяца назад
Great comparisions!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
🤙🏻
@georgemkoshy6622
@georgemkoshy6622 3 месяца назад
I appreciate your very clear explanation of the differences between the two shoes - the best I have watched so far. Thanks!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I hope it was helpful! 🤙🏻
@spou20
@spou20 3 месяца назад
Most informative comparison video I've ever watched about shoes. Absolutely brilliant! Thank you for helping me to decide on my London Marathon shoe, looks like the Edge is for me 🙌🏽
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m happy to help. A great shoe for sure! Have an outstanding race. 🤙🏻
@michaelcaricoo
@michaelcaricoo 3 месяца назад
Great video as always, the best video about the differences of these two shoes and the categoization of racing shoes in general
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you. Thank you. 🤙🏻
@terrybarnett6013
@terrybarnett6013 2 месяца назад
Thankyou for a brilliant video. Much appreciated sir.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
I hope it was helpful! 🤙🏻
@maraballerina
@maraballerina 3 месяца назад
This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I hope it helped you make your decision. The Paris series are excellent shoes. 🤙🏻
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad it was helpful! 🤙🏻
@stephanefeltesse1613
@stephanefeltesse1613 3 месяца назад
Great work ! Thank you
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching! 🤙🏻
@d...345
@d...345 3 месяца назад
This has been one of the most useful running shoe tech videos ever. Thank you!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad it was useful. Thank you for watching. 🤙🏻
@Charles-kc2vt
@Charles-kc2vt 3 месяца назад
Best review of these shoes 👏
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
My actual initial impressions review will be on the channel tomorrow. Come back and check that one out. 🤙🏻
@Lee-mx5li
@Lee-mx5li 2 месяца назад
Superb job on video!!!!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
Thank you. 🙏🏻
@Hana_shorts8436
@Hana_shorts8436 3 месяца назад
Great insights .. thank you!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching. 🤙🏻
@Miguel-mv2bs
@Miguel-mv2bs Месяц назад
Thank you for this simple and direct comparison. Subbed!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning Месяц назад
I’m happy to have earned the sub. Thank you. 🤙🏻
@i.p2088
@i.p2088 3 месяца назад
Excellent video.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
@stealtherider3008
@stealtherider3008 Месяц назад
Very good informational video! You're awesome!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning Месяц назад
I’m glad it was useful. 🤙🏻
@MichaelCrum65
@MichaelCrum65 Месяц назад
Great video...thank you. Just bought the Edge Paris. Looking forward to trying it out as I loved the Edge +
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning Месяц назад
I’ve been really enjoying my Edge Paris lately, even more than I did out of the box. They are a great shoe! 🤙🏻
@shankarchandran
@shankarchandran 3 месяца назад
Very insightful! The Superblast has turned out to be my favorite workhorse marathon trainer after watching your thoughts on them. Would you say the Edge Paris would be closer as a racing companion to the Superblast?
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
On paper the Sky has always been the companion to the Superblast. Mostly due to amount of foam underfoot. However… I’m a big fan of the Superblast and prefer the Magic Speed 3 and Edge Paris greatly for a plated shoe… so it can work well.
@shankarchandran
@shankarchandran 3 месяца назад
Thank you!@@SagasuRunning
@jimdres7000
@jimdres7000 2 месяца назад
Brilliant Review. Only review that covers form fit and function with essential explanatory information to make an informed purchasing decision.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
I hope it was helpful for you to pick the right one for you! 🤙🏻
@LyJoyRuns
@LyJoyRuns 3 месяца назад
Best breakdown to date on differentiating the low/high plate super shoes! Now I see why the AF and Adios Pro 3’s are my favorites for race day.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad it could connect the dots for you. Hopefully it was time well spent. 🤙🏻
@kentm7731
@kentm7731 3 месяца назад
One of the best videos on the Metaspeed series. But the best in categorizing the shoes based on industry similarities. It answered my own questions based on my best marathon performances and the shoes I’ve worn those days.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I'm happy this video help to contextualize the other shoes. 🤙🏻
@tamer982
@tamer982 3 месяца назад
Finally found a video to know the difference between sky and edge, great work ! Thank you
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad this was helpful! 🤙🏻
@viCoN24
@viCoN24 3 месяца назад
Thank you for the breakdown and information! I kept thinking how Invincible gets complaints from both sides and plate configuration change ZoomX trainer into supershoe for specific runner who likes the foam but can't overcome specific things about it. I loved the video, keep them coming!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching. I hope it was useful! 🤙🏻
@nicholas5396
@nicholas5396 2 месяца назад
Subed for such detailed high quality content!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
I’m happy to have earned the sub. Thank you. 🤙🏻
@luizbertoncini
@luizbertoncini 3 месяца назад
Great explanation, low plate gang!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Low plate life! 😂
@andyseal8134
@andyseal8134 3 месяца назад
Great video. Thanks
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching! 🤙🏻
@markoljustina
@markoljustina 3 месяца назад
Just watched again; great and interesting video
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for the rewatch! 🤙🏻
@kenocontreras
@kenocontreras 3 месяца назад
This deserved more views! Amazing breakdown. Thanks a lot. Sky Paris will be my choice.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I appreciate the support. Working on the growth thing here. Glad this helped you find the right one for you. 🤙🏻
@davidrogers7787
@davidrogers7787 3 месяца назад
Jees. You totally nailed it. You’ve articulated what I felt but couldn’t express when I made my first foray into carbon plated shoes last year - I hated that feeling of sinking through the foam when I tried on the Hoka Rockets, Nike Vaporflys and Saucony Endorphin Pros. Now you’ve explained it’s because the carbon plate runs along the floor of the shoe! I ended up buying the Alphafly 2s, and loved them, so I guess it is the Metaspeed Sky Paris for me! Thanks man.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad you found your way. Running is often alot of trial and error… but some things can be clearly said. I’m glad this helped with the Metaspeeds. 🤙🏻
@hannahpollard56
@hannahpollard56 3 месяца назад
This is by far the best video I have ever watched with regards to running shoes. Great explanation and I can now go away feeling much more informed. As someone who has hypermobility, I have never loved the Alphas and maybe this is why...they are too unstable. Thank you.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Ya, that would be my guess. Your biomechanics need to rigidity of the plate near the ground to give your a stable platform to work from. Thank you for the kind words. 🤙🏻
@magnusskold9134
@magnusskold9134 3 месяца назад
I got both shoes today and is just back after trying both. I did 2x2k with both and 5k pace and preferred the Edge. Then I did 2x2k with both at my marathon pace and very much preferred the Sky. One noticeable difference between the shoes you didn’t mentioned is that the rubber on the outsole extends further back on Edge. I think that implies that Asics think Edge will be preferred by heel strikers. I’m a heel striker, but after this quick test my preference will be Sky anyway. When you pick up the pace they feel softer and more enjoyable - but I was faster in Edge because they keep pushing me forward in a different way. Sky is just great feeling and squishy, but it feels like I need to work a little harder to keep the tempo. I will keep both just for fun. And BTW, Sky felt quite more accommodating than Edge but both shoes were actually shorter in length than I anticipated. I think they are closer to original series in length (still little longer) but not longer than + series.
@magnusskold9134
@magnusskold9134 3 месяца назад
One things to add. I’m disappointed at Asics quality control, in Sky my right shoe is 165g and the left 174g. 9 gram difference! In Edge the right shoe was 172g and the left 167g. I think 5g is on the limit of ok. Also on the Edge pair the front of the shoes are not identical, the rubber goes up to a higher toe on the left shoe and the rocker therefore is not identical. On Sky they look identical but has this huge weight difference.
@yiann1sk
@yiann1sk 3 месяца назад
Wow very informative comment thank you! What you say it’s in line with kofuzi’s review and in my case the cadence /stride length data I extracted from my watch. My conclusion after watching this video is that if I buy the Sky I can keep it for Half Marathon /Marathon and use another shoe i.e., Adios Pro 3 that I already own for 5k -10k. Thank you for your comment and thank you Chris for making this video.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Great info! I found both Paris series for longer than the Plus series and TTS for me with absolutely zero fit issues or foot/toe problems. Asics race uppers are outstanding as well. While I don’t think Asics has designed either shoe for a specific foot strike… I think years of Vaporfly running has shown us that it is optimized for a forefoot striker. It’s not that they can’t work for heel striking (they can and do) but that configuration just seems to favor the forefoot.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I had a 4g weight difference between mine. No QC issues at all… everything is symmetrical and clean. I actually have never bought an Asics shoe with any QC issues. Maybe I have a low bar coming from years of Nike. 😂
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Really, an AP3 for shorter stuff? That is one shoe I think prefers longer steady stuff, more so than any shoe I can think of. It is because of that that the Takumi Sen exists.
@Chunkyfunk01
@Chunkyfunk01 3 месяца назад
This was so useful, thank you very much. I love the Alphafly1 and the Adios Pro3, both for their bouncier/firmer characteristics. Using your info suggests the Sky should be a far safer bet than the Edge. Great video!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
It definitely should be for your preference. Good luck with them. 🤙🏻
@dmleibo
@dmleibo 3 месяца назад
So this is fascinating. Having tried so many of these shoes and been Goldilocks (too firm, too soft) with them all, i recently became very attached to my Adios Pro 3 and Cielo X 1 shoes. To see them called out the way you did is validating in a way.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Those two shoes are a bit unique in the super shoe space at the moment. I’m a fan of the AP3, even with the upper issues, definitely. I’m glad this was useful for you!
@antic4312
@antic4312 3 месяца назад
Love the deep dive technical videos. They’re always so interesting to watch. I’m definitely more of a cadence runner and tend to gravitate toward the rolling category of super shoes (mainly Vaporfly). But after trying the new Sky Paris, I could definitely see myself picking it over the Vaporfly for Marathon specifically. 5K - 15K, I think Vaporfly is still better. HM is a toss up, but still leaning Vaporfly. I feel that the bouncier, less aggressive plate configuration is more sustainable for races that last 2+ hours. It’s hard to ride a Vaporfly with good biomechanics for that long. I think foot strike is irrelevant tho. It’s more about how much you’re engaging the ride. I still need to get my hands on an alphafly 3! Trying to dial down my marathon show for Chicago this fall. 😅
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
You are echoing my same feelings on the MSEP & VF3… it’s not about distance to me but I am finding the less aggressive plate in the MSEP is easier for more steady running. It’s not that the VF3 isn’t… it’s just use average runners can have sloppy mechanics, especially when fatiguing… the MSEP feels like it has a bigger sweet spot. I need more running in it… but it’s feeling like that early.
@TheFrancistan84
@TheFrancistan84 3 месяца назад
This is one of the better review as compare to others reviewer
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for thinking words. I hope it was useful. 🤙🏻
@strongestccp
@strongestccp Час назад
Great review, thanks 🙏
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning Час назад
Thank you for watching. Hopefully it answered your questions. 🤙🏻
@tayoidowu11
@tayoidowu11 2 месяца назад
I have watched tens of videos about super shoes and ALL the shoess mentioned. I have owned almost all of them too!! hands down best simple in depth breakdown of the carbon plate tech as a whole. thank you. I am now more confused which to buy though. I love saucony pro and the speed but found them too aggressive for marathon. love the alphafly for bounce but the Nike heel arch was a killer. thank you again
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
Given all that you have tried… at this point I’d try an Adidas Adios Pro 3 or the New Hoka Cielo x1… both are less aggressive and offer the roll and a bit of the bounce from the AF without the arch issues. Thank you for the kind words on the content. I’m glad it is useful!
@tayoidowu11
@tayoidowu11 2 месяца назад
@@SagasuRunning thanks for the tip! I went crazy and tried the Adidas prime X strung 2. they were good for 20k then felt sore. maybe a bit tooo much foam! I have heard that the light strike takes a while to. warm up but once it does it's golden. I found that the ASICS superblast were a bit like this. I completed a marathon just this w.end in the superblast, they were lovely but didn't seem to warm up until 5 km. great til 35k then they didn't seem to have much uuummmpphh. cold also be I was tired !! thanks again.will look for more of your vids
@jam-ov2fk
@jam-ov2fk Месяц назад
Very handy reference 👍
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning Месяц назад
🤙🏻
@mechadriver5088
@mechadriver5088 2 месяца назад
Great video. Your explaination made a lot of sense. Based on this and other reviews, I went with the Edge (love VF1, 2, and 3; rear foot striker). Unfortunately, it just didn't seem to transition easily for me at my marathon paces. Reminded me of the Alphafly v1. If I focus on my form, I can get the shoe to pick up the pace. I also don't notice the transition issue at faster than marathon pace. On top of that, I had a quality issue with my pair where the right shoe heel bowed in more than the left heel and caused irritation afer 8+ miles. I returned the shoes and I don't have the energy to try the Sky. I will stick with the Vaporflys for now.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
The MSEP is a great shoe, fantastic shoe, but it is still not a Vaporfly… glad you could return them. It’s odd to have a quality issue with Asics… their fit/finish is usually so high.
@MikeCx2
@MikeCx2 3 месяца назад
Great video! I actually wear 3/4 length orthotic inserts and tried last years Metaspeed Edge+ and found that the ride was too stiff and loaded my calves more than I wanted (I sold them shortly after purchase). Your above video (and the other new video on the Metaspeed Paris) really illustrates the changes Asics made to the foam geometry and I commend you for that... great graphics! The Paris models are similar now with differing plate locations in the forefoot. I now see that last years model for the Edge+ had very little heel stack/foam which I certainly felt in the few runs I did (pace approx 4:30/km) and they seemed very "slappy" with the low plate configuration. I thought my orthotics were the issue but now I'm considering getting the new Metaspeed Paris Sky (based on your video!) as I really like the bouncey feel even though I'm a cadence runner primarily (plus I train in the Novablast 3 and 4 currently). I think the thicker softer foam in the Paris (softer than last year's model) up front and along the entire shoe for this model, will help soften the overall feel when wearing orthotics. Any thoughts on my reasoning? My race distance is typically half marathon as I focus on IM 70.3 triathlons. Thanks for doing these technical videos!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I think you may be on the right track with your logic… assuming they your orthodox and the high plate of the Sky Paris don’t interact somehow. They will be very close to one another.
@andeeaye
@andeeaye 3 месяца назад
Great info. My favorite race day shoe is the alphafly 2, hoping the sky paris is close
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Of the three AFs, the Sky is closest in feel to the AF2… you should feel right at home.
@gomezea2
@gomezea2 2 месяца назад
this should be watched by anyone before getting any shoes, man, you explained it very well,
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
I'm going to update and add to this for ALL super shoes, not just the Metaspeeds, sometime in May or June. Stay tuned.
@metalsadman
@metalsadman 2 месяца назад
thanks appreciate this info as a beginner runner.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
I hope it helps. A big part of running, especially early on, is finding what shoes and gear work best for you. It’s a process of trial and error.
@joaovtrigo
@joaovtrigo 3 месяца назад
Very nice video, I have the SKY TOKYO and was in doubt which one to pick but it looks like that for the PARIS generation I should move on to the EDGE version.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Yup, the Edge Paris is not exactly but it should feel familiar. Enjoy them.
@sd2124er
@sd2124er 2 месяца назад
Easily the best video on this shoe
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
I hope it was helpful! 🤙🏻
@SwimBikeRun256
@SwimBikeRun256 2 месяца назад
That’s brilliant. Thanks. I’ve had 2 low plate shoes but don’t feel like I get a lot of benefit. Might try high plate and see if that makes a difference
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
Always worth a try, especially if you can try them on before you buy them. Usually it is a rather instant “yeh” or “neh” feeling.
@hugoq6186
@hugoq6186 3 месяца назад
Thanks a lot for this great video. When looking at my data, it seems that I am more a stride runner than a cadence runner (comparing the percentage of increase for both). However, I am more used to low plate shoes like the Endorphin Pro/Speed which I appreciate a lot. I have always thought that low plate shoes were softer and more comfortable for half-marathons/marathons and this was a reason I have made this choice in the past. But the new Paris version seems the opposite, with the Sky being a bit softer and still very comfortable. So I am a bit lost now to decide between the Edge/Sky. Also, I am still waiting for some durability reviews about these two shoes (the Endorphin Pro had a great durability)
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
It’s one of those days things that you need to try both. Moving to the different platform (low to high plates) will take some trial and error. Durability is one of my biggest questions about the Paris Series. I’ll be testing them as much as I can in the coming months.
@scottie10014
@scottie10014 2 месяца назад
Great explanation of the differences between Edge and Sky's design.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
Thank you. I hope it was helpful. 🤙🏻
@scottie10014
@scottie10014 2 месяца назад
It was. I tried the Sky on Sat at the Asics store, now I have to go back and try the Edge, because although I'm a midfoot striker, based on yours and other people's comparisons to the Vaporfly (I have two pairs of the first version), I might be better off with the more aggressive feel of the Edge
@MrDareDaring
@MrDareDaring 2 месяца назад
best scientific review of running shoes
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
Maybe not scientific, but I'm glad it was helpful. 🤙🏻
@romrome
@romrome 3 месяца назад
Excellent review man! Instant subscriber here. 😊
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Happy to have you here and to have earned the subscribe. Thank you! 🤙🏻
@romrome
@romrome 3 месяца назад
@@SagasuRunning a quick question..... Between the Endorphin Pro 4 and the Sky Paris, which pair is softer, more responsive and has a wider forefoot? Trying to pick between the two to race the marathon distance. Can't buy both due to cost limitations. Thanks!
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
@romrome Endorphin Pro 4 on both counts. However the MSSP is the faster and far better shoe.
@romrome
@romrome 3 месяца назад
@@SagasuRunning Thank you very much for your insight, I truly appreciate your time :)
@gavinmcmillan6222
@gavinmcmillan6222 3 месяца назад
Great video and explanation. I’ve loved vapourflys, but I’ve never tried a super shoe with a high plate / late rocker from the left of your matrix so I still don’t know which camp I sit
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
It is very much one of those things that you will have a preference for. Even if you like the feel of both your data will show one works better for you.
@subhi2698
@subhi2698 3 месяца назад
im might not watched all your videos and don't know do you covers Saucony at all, but interesting to see you mentioned here. Would like to hear your take on Endorphin series, especially their versatile super trainer which is speed series (latest is speed 4). I find myself confuse with Asics stride vs cadence things hence I stay away but you are like the first reviewer to explain this in such manner. I wonder why people cant be like you, I even hear the Asics presentation and marketing, nothing explain like this. You are one hell of a product designer.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I don’t have alot to say on Saucony. I give the Endorphin series credit for what it’s done and how runners have adopted them… but my few experiences with the brands shoes have been “meh” at best. I do plan on eventually getting a pair of Speed 4s (once I can find them, Saucony is rare here in Taiwan)… I’ll go into more depth there. Stay tuned.
@jrabago1
@jrabago1 3 месяца назад
Great explanation and love the chart with all the shoes. Wondering where would you place the Puma Fast R v1 same spot as the Fast R v2?
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Yes. Same basic low plate configuration… different foams they the v2.
@nickkibblewhite7375
@nickkibblewhite7375 Месяц назад
Really enjoyed the video. Do either of these options / super shoes affect heel strikers?
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning Месяц назад
Generally speaking the Metaspeeds are ok at best for heel strikers. They are a very narrow platform, especially in the heel, with little rubber coverage. That being said… either one will work. It still depends on the type of ride off of the toe you want.
@brockdalton8641
@brockdalton8641 3 месяца назад
Asics crushed it with these. Thorough engineering concerning addressing the unique force characteristics of stride vs cadence running. Combined with the incredibly light weight and ultra high performance critical foam, these shoes are exhilarating
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I agree. After a few years of ALMOST being in the top tier of super shoes… they blew the doors off of it and possibly have made the best super shoe or 2024… though I think Adidas may one up them with what they have coming…
@jfarmer911
@jfarmer911 25 дней назад
I may have decided to buy both so I can try them out. I thought at first I was a cadence runner, but then I realized I might be a stride runner, and then I just didn’t know because I think it changes depending on the workout or the race goal since I’m still learning and developing my running style. Luckily I found one pair on a BIG discount, so I could justify the splurge to experiment and see which is better for my needs.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 25 дней назад
This is the ideal way to do it if you want to buy both. This is the issue with cadence be stride. Every runner increases both when going faster, just one is more prominent than the other. However, as I pointed it… it really comes down to the feel you want under foot more than anything else. Enjoy them. You can’t go wrong with either.
@RunningWithDanny
@RunningWithDanny 3 месяца назад
Superb video on the comparisons, the best so far. If you had to compare one to the ride of the Superblast ( which I love ) which would it be, I’m guessing the “Sky” ?
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you. Thank you. 🙏🏻 Yes, the Sky Paris has the most similar ride to the Superblast… tons of foam under the foot and on toe off…
@RunningWithDanny
@RunningWithDanny 3 месяца назад
@@SagasuRunning much appreciated Sir, I was honestly struggling with which one to side with but after your review and reply that’s no longer an issue 🤝🏻
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
@RunningWithDanny I’m glad it was helpful. Enjoy them when they show up!
@042766
@042766 3 месяца назад
Thanks and once again reviewed this excellent video - took out the edge for a 10k first time and worked great and look forward to breaking it in even a bit more, however will this get me through a 1/2 to full marathon distance as I have done in the Ap3's?
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
It should. It is designed for those distances. Do some training in it to get used to how the shoe feels on foot and you’ll be good to go in a longer race. That’s one of the main reasons I advocate to do a lot of your training in your race shoes.
@crzyscorp
@crzyscorp 3 месяца назад
Thank you for your great review. When you say that the edge would be “stable” can you compare its relative stability to the Endorphin Pro 3/4 and the Vaporfly? Currently I've been racing in the endorphin pro but the Edge/Sky look very interesting for fall marathon season
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Stable is very relative here… it IS a super foam super shoe… but compared to the Vaporfly I’d say the MSEP is better given the FFTurbo+ isn’t as compressive as ZoomX. Also the Vaporfly is actually wider in the forefoot and midfoot compared to the MSEP (which is very narrow). The Sauconys are wider and more flared on the sidewalls so would offer more stability over either, even with their compressive foams.
@panszarlotka
@panszarlotka 2 месяца назад
I've subscribed you beacose I lern Eanglish and your pronansiasion ist emazing. Ofcourse I like running to.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
Wow, I’m happy to help! Thank you! 🙏🏻
@tono1665
@tono1665 3 месяца назад
That’s such a great informative review.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m glad it was helpful. It’s a question I know many are wondering right now. 🤙🏻
@tono1665
@tono1665 3 месяца назад
@@SagasuRunning edge Paris for me when it’s released in the UK.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Only the Sky is out in the UK?
@tono1665
@tono1665 3 месяца назад
@@SagasuRunning non as of yet. Is was meant to be the 4th March but disappeared off the ASICS website and now just says coming soon.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
They explains why most UK reviewers are only covering the Sky and/or proclaiming it the best shoe already. How odd.
@filipel1
@filipel1 3 месяца назад
What an explanation!!!😊 claps
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I hope it was useful! 🤙🏻
@filipel1
@filipel1 3 месяца назад
⁠​⁠@@SagasuRunning😂😂😂unfortunately not. I bought the Edge on Monday cause I tough that would be exatly as you said about the Sky! Should watch this video on Sunday Mar/03 not today😅
@NeillyVille
@NeillyVille 3 месяца назад
As a heavy forefoot striker, I think the Sky Paris is for me. I loved the v1 (600km) so with the Paris with a softer and more responsive midsole and the significant weight reduction overall, this is a sure buy for me. Asics are onto something.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
The v1 Sky has a low plate configuration… so you might want to check the Edge Paris first. Unless you did run in the Sky+, which introduced the high plate.
@NeillyVille
@NeillyVille 3 месяца назад
Vaporflys have low plate and I love that and Alphaflys have high plate and I love that too so I don't know, I guess it's just the midsole for me not the position of the plate. However, Sky Paris will give the light and snappiness of the Vaporfly with a Alphafly-like setup which is going to be awesome especially with the amazing weight reduction.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
@NeillyVille On paper that should be the case for the Sky Paris. That’s what I tried with the Sky+ last year but couldn’t get over the late stage rocker and massive amount of foam under the toes.
@linzhuo1944
@linzhuo1944 3 месяца назад
Great video. Did you size up for the pair of edge that you bought? Thanks
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Nope, went TTS. Same size I went for in any other Asics (or most other running shoes). I talk about it in my actual review for this shoe here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uv3jxq7UfYo.html
@BecomingYoung
@BecomingYoung 27 дней назад
Brilliant!!! Thank you! What category would the New Balance Supercomp Trainer fit into?
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 27 дней назад
Thank you. I hope it was helpful. Both SC Trainer versions are low plate configuration.
@ThisisRubbishlo
@ThisisRubbishlo 2 месяца назад
Which pair for just walking around in? Quite liked the adidas, great video, now I know all about the runners
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 2 месяца назад
Neither of the Metaspeeds and none of the super shoes featured in this video. They are all for performance road racing and are absolutely awful for walking in and even worst for casual wear.
@rogerstoffel4112
@rogerstoffel4112 3 месяца назад
Super video
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching!
@kuriosites
@kuriosites 3 месяца назад
Really interesting thoughts. I'm wondering if the plate design and configuration can tell us anything about the plated trainers, knowing that some use a plate to stabilize the shoe while some seem to use it more to provide propulsion.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
In both high and low configurations the plate is there to stabilize (mostly)… it’s just different approaches to it. The high plate is more literal, making a uniform platform for the foot to press against, while in the low plate it is there to ride on the ground to stabilize. The angle in the midfoot and amount of toe spring are what determine propulsion I think. I have some superheroes here that I may expand on later this year in a video. I’m waiting to see what Adidas does next and then what Nike leaks are for 2025… there are some crazy things on the horizon for both.
@davidzlotnick1899
@davidzlotnick1899 3 месяца назад
Great video I have run multiple marathons in the adios pro 3 I can’t really tell what / why it works so well for me Probably a combination of the firmness / bounce you get even late in a marathon and I also seem to be able to get into a rhythm with it - If you had to choose one that’s closer to the adios pro 3 overall - what would you choose? Thanks !
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
The Metaspeed Sky… it has that endless foam feeling in the forefoot. The rocker is a little later in it but it should feel pretty natural coming from the AP3 midsole.
@isidrotormogarcia4879
@isidrotormogarcia4879 3 месяца назад
Best supershoe video ever. Endorphin Elite is ❤.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I don’t think I agree… but happy that you found the content useful. 🤙🏻
@isidrotormogarcia4879
@isidrotormogarcia4879 3 месяца назад
@@SagasuRunning very instructive. Your explanations are very orientatives and simples. The simplicity is good when you describe the feeling clearly without technique words 😉💪🏻
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
I’m happy to hear that! 🤙🏻
@mikea6710
@mikea6710 Месяц назад
Was perplexed on the weekend ... Everything about my running is edge paris: A) high cadence runner i average easy runs and well paced runs at 180, on tempo would be 190+ ..170 and under can get very awkward for me (not genetically gifted, got short legs) B) got vaporfly and endorphin pro, shoes of which i love/run the most in.. they're the only carbon plate shoes i ever own C) My stride length doesn't go beyond 1.00 m, it usually stays steady at 0.92 D) reasearched long enough, to decide the edge is for me, incl. this video Went to the Asics store, to find i preferred the Sky.. though, ran only like 10 meters for both of them, not long enough to determine anything.. by definitely Sky over Edge, for me, not even close, by a long way.. Btw never had any intention in owning a pair, just wanted to understand,... But now im confused! But actually, walked in the store as an exclusive saucony runner, walked out knowing asics is gonna one day join the family... Damn, that shoe felt amazing.. its like the vaporly 2 (esp. the upper) but made with my idea of comfort in mind
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning Месяц назад
We are very similar as far as our run dynamics, cadence and stride length. This is why I stress it’s not cadence vs stride…. Is run feel. Do you like bounce or roll. That’s determined it and either shoe will work for either type of runner, though there likely is biomechanicaly a “correct” shoe for you. I’ve been quite impressed with the Metaspeed Edge Paris and have been spending quite a bit of time in it lately.
@Amarschall
@Amarschall 3 месяца назад
Wtf is this insanely good video.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
Thank you! 🤙🏻
@pappas69
@pappas69 3 месяца назад
This video was awesome! how would you categorise the NB SC Elite v3? I know you mention the v4, however, the v4 feels very different to me. The v3 is one of my favourite ever shoes, especially as a heavier runner.
@SagasuRunning
@SagasuRunning 3 месяца назад
The previous SC Elites and Trainers all have been low plate configuration.
@pappas69
@pappas69 3 месяца назад
@@SagasuRunningthat explains it - thanks!
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