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Chopin: Four Scherzi (Grosvenor) 

Ashish Xiangyi Kumar
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Grosvenor has a wonderful and thoroughly unique way with Chopin’s Scherzos. He knows you can’t make these Scherzos funny qua funny, so he plays instead with a lightness (and often, speed) that borders on insouciance. The result is something that sounds (a) like it has been improvised, and (b) utterly impossible to improvise-an interpretation that has to be heard as a series of perfectly mapped oratorical gestures rather than a string of notes or big thematic chunks of music pressed dramatically together: just listen to the convulsive, spasm-like entrance of the first theme of the Op.20, the hyper-expressive burble of the Op.31 and the coruscating sweep of its runs, the terse, black, slightly impish fierceness of the Op.39 [23:13] punctuated by an ever-expanding chorale and gossamer-thin textures [19:42], and the crisp coyness of the Op.54’s outer sections set against the beguiling lyricism in the middle. It's very rare to find a recording that, by increasing tempo, draws out detail rather than obscures it (those accents in the final run of the Op.20, for instance, the melodic shape of the Op.39 chorale, the whirligig structure of the Op.54 theme): this recording of definitely one of them.
00:00 - No.1, Op.20 in B Minor
08:12 - No.2, Op.31 in Bb Minor
17:21 - No.3, Op.39 in C# Minor
23:57 - No.4, Op.54 in E Major

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@Schubertd960
@Schubertd960 2 года назад
1:52 to 1:56 was amazingly voiced; I'd never noticed that before.
@timward276
@timward276 5 лет назад
wow, that Scherzo 1 is a thrill ride. So fast and light, and well-voiced. I normally don't like Scherzo 1 as much as 2 or 3, but Grosvenor sells me on it. Also, props to AXK for repeatedly working the word "coruscating", a marvelous and underused word, into his descriptions.
@dorfmanjones
@dorfmanjones Месяц назад
Grosvenor and Rana have set new standards for the Chopin scherzos. They have digested the golden age style and with the aid their sonic engineers have raised their iterations to heights of perfection that mat be unprecedented.
@hyramesshiramess1035
@hyramesshiramess1035 6 лет назад
Simply -- the BEST. I'm in my late seventies, and have made a serious study of the piano and its literature for 69 years. I've studied all of the Scherzi and given creditable performance of all but the one in C#-Minor, but never -- even in my wildest dreams or those of any of my distinguished teachers at Julliard, Eastman, and Mannes -- have I ever dared to even IMAGINE that these pieces could be played with such grace, wit, élan, effortless ease and tremendous refinement at speeds impossible for many great players of the past to attain. Grosvenor is not only a PIANISTIC genius, he is gifted with a rare degree of interpretive INSIGHT as well. His Chopin and Ravel are absolutely SUPERB almost to the poi[nt where has no real competition. In a world overcrowded with superhuman virtuosi (you know who most of them are, I'm sure) Ben Grosvenor stands head and shoulders above the current pantheon of elite masters of the keyboard. I'm most interested to hear what he might do with Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann and Brahms. By the way those who persist in denigrating Lang Lang are as opaque and obtuse as a sack full of sand, stones and dog turds. Lang Lang's Schumann ABEGG variations and his early LIVE performance of the Chopin E0Mnor concert are on the same level as Grosvenor's Scherzi, and his Beethoven concerto performances with Christoph von Eschenbach are of the highest quality.
@Someonece
@Someonece 6 лет назад
I agree about Grosvenor's pianistic abilities. He's literally unbelievable to listen to, especially when he handles certain passage in the 4th, as well as the coda (some of the best pianistic writing Chopin ever did). The only downside is that he pretty much doesn't play any Russian repertoire. I'd be interested to see his take on Scriabin, Rach (other than the few pieces he has played), and Prokofiev.
@ElizabethPoet
@ElizabethPoet 4 года назад
Which Schumann? There were two: Clara Schumann, who in her time was more famous than her husband, and Robert Schumann.
@leonlinton634
@leonlinton634 4 года назад
@@ElizabethPoet When someone mentions Schumann by just that address, it is generally assumed that Robert is the subject.
@michael.d.
@michael.d. 4 года назад
just to bring back Lang Lang for a moment: his Prokofiev 3/Bartók 2 album with Berlin/Rattle is genuinely brilliant, absolutely up there with the best. the one thing you can never fault Lang Lang for is technical facility: even if you disagree with his interpretation, you’re always aware that he’s in complete control of what he’s playing and almost never gets lost in difficulties. The rhythmic precision in the Bartók, while still carrying his trademark extroverted phrasing, was simply stunning. Couldn’t care less for his Chopin ballades though…
@scooperkupp5081
@scooperkupp5081 Год назад
Same review for Grosvenor's Gaspard de la Nuit, particularly Ondine. He reaches a different level of lightness and it gives the virtuosic passages a whole different sound. He's able to play faster, lighter, with more nuance than the crowd... the cherry that brings it together as you said must be his interpretive ability. What's amazing is there's very few pianists I'd be able to say the same for. Kissin's la Campanella, Fialkowska's Chopin etudes, Lang Lang's Don Juan - exceptionally well played, but they feel like better versions of what I'd heard before. Grosvenor's Ondine and Scherzo 1 sound brand new.
@Macgki
@Macgki 6 лет назад
Grosvenor is amazing, I've seen a video of him on YT at 12(?) years playing at a concert at the Billy Mayerl Society, and he played the first Scherzo as well, unbelievable well for that age.
@WoutDC
@WoutDC 4 года назад
I don't think I've ever heard such an exhilerating performance of the first scherzo... Everything I've heard by Grosvenor thus far is absolutely great and this recording is nothing short of glorious!
@fugueholic
@fugueholic 5 лет назад
1:48 - 1:55 What happens. Very impressive & unheard-of lower-layer melody emphasis.
@subplantant
@subplantant 3 года назад
Yes it's almost surreal
@tylerstoner7051
@tylerstoner7051 3 года назад
Everyone talking about the first scherzo (the tempo doesn’t do it for me) but that second scherzo is an absolute godlike performance!
@adamr522
@adamr522 6 лет назад
Beautiful, Beautiful, Beautiful. Amazing how good music can sound. These pieces give me shivers. Wow!
@user-rh1ti4mt6e
@user-rh1ti4mt6e 2 месяца назад
17:40
@auron570
@auron570 6 лет назад
Very interesting interpretations. I keep learning new ways to explore and play no.2
@InfernalPasquale
@InfernalPasquale 2 года назад
That is the most interesting interpretation of No. 2 I have heard. Wonderful!
@forthehouseandhome
@forthehouseandhome 5 месяцев назад
This recording is a level of genius and magic that comes at you faster than you have the ability to believe or retain.
@Algorox
@Algorox Год назад
I thought Yundi Li had the best interpretations for the scherzos, but then I discovered Grosvenor. His scherzos are out of this world.
@jb1980ist
@jb1980ist 3 года назад
These are really, really, really good performances.
@enelabe
@enelabe Год назад
Chopin's 4th Scherzo is one of the most underrated piano pieces in history
@Highinsight7
@Highinsight7 10 месяцев назад
YES!
@ihateslopers4694
@ihateslopers4694 2 года назад
14:17-15:17 is one of the best Chopin passages ever
@theo5069
@theo5069 3 года назад
This guy is so underrated.
@r.i.p.volodya
@r.i.p.volodya 5 месяцев назад
Really, tremendous playing!
@thegreenpianist7683
@thegreenpianist7683 5 лет назад
Genius!!!!
@elsaesteves
@elsaesteves Год назад
Exquisite 😭😭♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@randomcubing7106
@randomcubing7106 4 года назад
23:14 why you bully me
@yuehchopin
@yuehchopin 6 лет назад
die beste Interpretation
@S.Lander
@S.Lander 6 лет назад
Some 'fat hunter' this guy turned out to be. Amazing musicianship, commensurate with his technique.
@DavitMinasyan-rn3fv
@DavitMinasyan-rn3fv Год назад
scherzo no 1 coda is absolutely insane i cannot believe what my ears just heard
@WayneYLeigh
@WayneYLeigh 6 лет назад
Interesting approach and he has what it takes to carry it through. The only one I have issue with is the 3rd. It doesn't work for me. There I prefer a heavier, slower tempo than his.
@giacocarrera
@giacocarrera 6 лет назад
This is so beautiful. An excelent interpretation. Thank your for the time you took to upload. Nice description as well. Where did you learn all of that?
@ChiragBharadwajYT
@ChiragBharadwajYT 6 лет назад
Just curious -- what was wrong with the other upload?
@angelob.1089
@angelob.1089 5 лет назад
This entire performance is 8 minutes shorter than Pogorelich’s. Grosvenor crunched that 1st Scherzo in just 8 and a half minutes and made every bit of it just as memorable. Grosvenor is certainly a pianist I’ll come back to but Pogorelich is what I’d typically listen to first on a regular day.
@geoffroygaussen7803
@geoffroygaussen7803 4 года назад
me too
@anthonyc6017
@anthonyc6017 4 года назад
I agree i like pogorelich more although this one is interesting
@Garensonic
@Garensonic 2 года назад
But Grosvenor also did not repeat the opening section of the first scherzo
@hughmackay5200
@hughmackay5200 9 месяцев назад
All four are very difficult, and still more difficult to play well. I am working on number 3 at the moment, and it is a tour de force!
@novellmusicmedia6895
@novellmusicmedia6895 6 лет назад
wow
@opustravels3659
@opustravels3659 6 лет назад
Easily the reference recording for me
@monkeyman15387
@monkeyman15387 2 года назад
1:48-1:56 woah 😮
@komori_diary
@komori_diary 4 года назад
11:57
@komori_diary
@komori_diary 4 года назад
12:19
@KingstonCzajkowski
@KingstonCzajkowski 3 месяца назад
At 17:36 he adds notes to make it an F# minor chord in second inversion. I always thought the chord there should be C-sharp, the dominant. Interesting interpretative decision, along with the complete ignorance of dynamic markings.
@danal81
@danal81 3 года назад
I don’t understand: is this Grosvenor or Kowalski?
@Wkkbooks
@Wkkbooks Год назад
Is this Grosvenor or Kowalski?
@carlosantonioguevaraalcana715
Uff... 999 likes...! 👍 Edit: Ok no. 1,000 already. Bruh 🤦‍♂
@corneliusfriedel5579
@corneliusfriedel5579 3 года назад
Is it just me or is this too fast?! 🤔 it‘s maybe a sign of the times, but man, take your time.
@timward276
@timward276 3 года назад
Normally, I like slower tempi, but wow does it work well for these Scherzi. Chopin marks all of them Presto, so he clearly wants you to hit the afterburners when you play them.
@e.hutchence-composer8203
@e.hutchence-composer8203 3 года назад
Apparently rests are invisible to this pianist
@opustravels3659
@opustravels3659 3 года назад
That's the summary of you experience listening to this 34 minutes long interpretation?
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 4 года назад
So far I have only listened to the start of the middle section of the first scherzo. Tempo is way too fast!!!
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 4 года назад
Skipped ahead and landed on the coda of scherzo 3. Again too fast. 4th scherzo is my favorite one hopefully it'll be nice.
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 4 года назад
Still think it is too fast lol that's just me though.
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 4 года назад
Chopin is my favorite composer and his scherzos have always been some of my favorite works by him, especially the 3rd and 4th. I am not a fan of these recordings. Just my $0.02. There is much better to be had out there.
@subplantant
@subplantant 4 года назад
Recording is valuable if only for being the only one which achieves Chopin's own metronome mark!
@cjg8763
@cjg8763 4 года назад
@@subplantant if that is the intended speed I just have to wonder that he was thinking. Have heard these played so much more eloquently at slower tempos.
@chrisblackwell666
@chrisblackwell666 3 года назад
No way. Play like machine. No music
@LM-oz2sc
@LM-oz2sc Год назад
Then post a video how it should sound.
@thomasmanton8796
@thomasmanton8796 6 лет назад
Too fast double tempo.
@Bruce.-Wayne
@Bruce.-Wayne 5 лет назад
Agreed.....especially #3....way too fast for my liking.....Arthur Rubenstein recorded these more than twice and I suggest young pianists these days to listen to these recordings and learn something
@subplantant
@subplantant 4 года назад
He's the only pianist to obey Chopin's metronome mark in op 20
@Bruce.-Wayne
@Bruce.-Wayne 3 года назад
@@yosserc....I agree with you....Wisdom come with age.....they all grow with the music as time passes....Evgeny kissin was the same way is his youthful days and he has changed his perception long time ago
@terryss95
@terryss95 6 лет назад
Grosvenor?!?!? Really?!?!? Who' s next, lang lang? What' s gotten into you? I am not sure if i can keep the subscribed to your channel thing, at this rate...
@AlexxAmadeo
@AlexxAmadeo 6 лет назад
terryss95 So unsubscribe? No one is keeping you here.
@terryss95
@terryss95 6 лет назад
Alexander Marchenko Thanks for letting me know, i would' ve never figured out my possibilities, sherlock! I was simply disappointed with the latest uploads, concerning the chosen pianists.
@AndrewWuMusic
@AndrewWuMusic 6 лет назад
I rather like a lot of Lang Lang's Mozart, in fact-and what's wrong with Grosvenor?
@terryss95
@terryss95 6 лет назад
Andrew Wu Grosvenor' s playing is flamboyant and echoing, lacking of lyricism. He' s nonchanlant in ruining, jumping or hiding a note or 2 every bar. Mozart might be the most demanding composer one could possibly play todays... are sure of your choice, or it was a matter of wit?
@AndrewWuMusic
@AndrewWuMusic 6 лет назад
If you say so, then it clearly must be true. I defer to your greater judgment.
@jonahs5521
@jonahs5521 3 месяца назад
13:47
@user-rh1ti4mt6e
@user-rh1ti4mt6e 2 месяца назад
17:40
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