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Chopper vs Chopper: Ma Te vs Hou Yingchao | 2021 National Games 

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Chopper vs Chopper: Ma Te vs Hou Yingchao | 2021 National Games
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Комментарии : 101   
@Barman4200
@Barman4200 3 года назад
I'm guessing not everyone might find this as interesting as other games, but I really enjoyed seeing how two defenders approached the match from a strategy standpoint. Ma Te never let Hou Yingchao get into a comfortable zone & start doing his crazy spin variation on his chops; Ma would rarely attack more than one chop at a time, choosing to push that 2nd or 3rd chop (moving Hou in & out, putting him off-balance). When he did attack a chop, Ma was good at varying his placement, constantly moving Hou around. I know a lot of this is "standard" anti-chopper tactics, but it's rare to see people able to perform it so well. Ma could also attack pushes a lot better with his long pip side swipes, whereas Hou could not (because of the short pips). This meant Ma had the advantage in the pushing battle because he could attack balls that Hou could not, again putting Hou under pressure. Thank you for the upload!
@kaizhangtabletennis
@kaizhangtabletennis 3 года назад
Nice analysis. I am a chopper as well, and I enjoy playing against another chopper. It’s pretty hard to find them though, especially when I live…
@matmagix3845
@matmagix3845 3 года назад
is it just me or do I feel like Hou's big frame makes it hard for him to really be that effective? Seems late on the ball frequently, not as nimble as I might expect from a defensive player. Certainly the footwork seems a bit off.
@sumandas9487
@sumandas9487 3 года назад
will you please tell me which blade ma te using
@kaizhangtabletennis
@kaizhangtabletennis 3 года назад
@@sumandas9487 some say he is using DHS 08x. Not 100% sure though.
@Barman4200
@Barman4200 3 года назад
@@matmagix3845 Hou was definitely a lot slimmer in older videos of him from early/mid 2000's & 2010's. I mean, he IS over 40 now! Who knows how much he trains, what his diet is, or some other factors that might be in play. Also, as men get older they start getting a little chunkier around the waist (hence the eponymous "dad bod"). I don't think it's impacting his footwork though. Against normal styles, he seems to have no problem moving & being in position. I think his footwork looks "off" in this match because he was facing Ma Te, who, being a defender himself, knows just how to screw with a defenders' footwork. At least that's my thought on it!
@dash5core
@dash5core 3 года назад
Feels like two beginners are playing, but I know it is not true
@kuchikibyakuya7697
@kuchikibyakuya7697 3 года назад
Yes they can beat us like a dog.
@ichiroakuma7311
@ichiroakuma7311 3 года назад
Kind of comforting to see two world class players looking like guys from the local club.
@bartomiejjaworski9018
@bartomiejjaworski9018 3 года назад
No, it s just Two choppers in one single's match
@egemix894
@egemix894 2 года назад
you didnt c how he outplay ma long
@shivmurtidubal1738
@shivmurtidubal1738 4 месяца назад
Some players put spins in a very deceptive way. It's really difficult to understand if spin is there or not.
@blueheart9873
@blueheart9873 3 года назад
I don't understand the hate towards defensive playstyles. Even if it is not full of action, it's nice to see a little variation
@beginnercuber1143
@beginnercuber1143 2 года назад
The hate is more towards pimples and bot defensive players,because pimples kinda give an unfair advantage
@egemix894
@egemix894 2 года назад
@@beginnercuber1143 l0sers talk like that. Only no brains can't figure out how pimple works. Pimples are actually limited and passive. But stupid guys can't figure it out, so they think that pimples are unpredictable.
@egemix894
@egemix894 2 года назад
cuz they are so salty and got mad at themselves since they can't figure out how pimple works.
@beginnercuber1143
@beginnercuber1143 2 года назад
@@egemix894 😑ok,pimple player
@ognyankoynashki
@ognyankoynashki Год назад
@@beginnercuber1143 Crybaby
@Thenextphasemusic
@Thenextphasemusic 3 года назад
@20:00 sums up the match quite well
@HrFZ1
@HrFZ1 3 года назад
dude cant stop laughing here but we both know that reaction represents only...what happened on the surface
@Thenextphasemusic
@Thenextphasemusic 3 года назад
@@HrFZ1 Yeah, you're 100% right, it's just not thaaaat entertaining to watch for the audience :D
@elmoblatch9787
@elmoblatch9787 2 года назад
This is like watching your reasonably skilled cousins at the backyard barbecue.
@paulbourdess925
@paulbourdess925 3 года назад
"Boring game" = "I lose to choppers when I play, I can't generate any offense of my own, and can't lift backspin"
@kagura4891
@kagura4891 2 года назад
This is how I played when I was beginner.
@egemix894
@egemix894 2 года назад
wake up l0ser. you can never play like that
@barugi
@barugi 3 года назад
Both choppers appears to be uncomfortable playing against each other. Not too many defensive players to practice with I guess.
@chm2
@chm2 3 года назад
It was pretty disappointing. I thought it was going to be a very high level match that we could learn from because they understand all their opponent's tricks. Instead, they both seemed confused and uncomfortable.
@chang6905
@chang6905 Год назад
ya, I am here to learn how to face other chopper like me😢
@bakihanma9165
@bakihanma9165 2 года назад
Two counterpunchers going at it! In a battle of Choppers seems like the best service and attack wins the points 😅
@uleyzano6178
@uleyzano6178 Год назад
It's like to watch the game of chess. Very exciting and unpredictable. Thanks for sharing.
@pingsunday
@pingsunday Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@swmtd9484
@swmtd9484 Год назад
I thought it was going to be a marathon. Turns out most of the rallies were not long.
@Sazyua
@Sazyua 3 года назад
Choppers need to be able to play against another chopper. In a perfect world, a chopper would love to defend against an attacker 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, but this is not always the case. You are not always going to play against an offensive player. There are times where you will face a pure defense chopper, pure defense anti-spin or long pimples blocker, modern defender, lobbers etc. I see so many choppers at my clubs perform very well against attackers, but when playing against another defender, it's awkward for them and end up losing. Choppers need to know their own weakness and how to play against a chopper. You're not the only chopper in the world, so when you are played against one, you better know how to essentially beat yourself. Can't play against attackers all the time. This comment is to not criticize Ma Te or Hou Yingchao, as they are both amazing modern defenders, but to those who still play defense, eventually, you are going to have to go out of your "I only defense against an attacker" bubble and learn to "Okay, I am facing another defender. I have a strategy to play against them."
@Mannistheorion
@Mannistheorion Год назад
I play modern defense/chop style, and I really get frustrated when I play with other LP players. It's more mind exhausting than physically and you have to adjust to your normal drills/routine to get a nice window for attack.
@rilcycopa
@rilcycopa 2 года назад
Metapod vs Metopod
@helloxing1000
@helloxing1000 2 года назад
They both enjoy playing
@elmoblatch9787
@elmoblatch9787 2 года назад
Hou is on first.
@anujnayak7839
@anujnayak7839 3 года назад
I am very afraid from the guys who's name is Ma and he plays table tennis
@gost7213
@gost7213 3 года назад
Yah, Ma Lin, Ma Long,…n, now, Ma Te who can chop chop chop….chop to pieces, haha…
@anujnayak7839
@anujnayak7839 3 года назад
@@gost7213 yeah , lol
@ingdavidrosasv
@ingdavidrosasv 3 года назад
It is as weird as I imagined. "Please somebodh attack me"
@milchkanne21
@milchkanne21 3 года назад
Very interesring playstyle. Thanks for Sharing. Someone know, do they play with Long or short pimples?
@bejoev1771
@bejoev1771 3 года назад
As far as i know, Ma use LP palio ck831, Hou use SP TSP spectol
@Listermintsluesh
@Listermintsluesh 2 года назад
Anyone know what gear exactly these guys play in this match ? Ie, what rubber's ?
@24ghosh24
@24ghosh24 3 года назад
as a chopper ,its a nightmare to play another chopper.
@bobmalack481
@bobmalack481 Год назад
'Greenie' at 4:15 said in English for the edge ball 'so sorry'... LOL!!
@insearchofgold3430
@insearchofgold3430 3 года назад
what are the odds, chopper SP vs chopper SP
@Ufkatuale
@Ufkatuale 2 года назад
Chopper vs Chopper also known as: "bring time with you"
@bobmalack481
@bobmalack481 Год назад
Choppers will never be a number one, let alone a top ten player.
@shirenqiu6349
@shirenqiu6349 2 года назад
是湖北不是河北,谢谢
@fajara6124
@fajara6124 2 года назад
The officials & audiences feel like..... zzzz..zzz... 😄😄
@bobmalack481
@bobmalack481 Год назад
Guy in green ALMOST looks like a chubbyer Wang Hao. Gallery is chanting 'Ma Long!' between points..bazarre..l
@gana0853
@gana0853 3 года назад
Très laid.
@nhulamnguyen264
@nhulamnguyen264 2 года назад
Ông áo xanh giải nghệ đi về mà làm việc khác.chu đánh thế này thì ai nuôi được.ton công sức dao tạo.
@C0rruptedError
@C0rruptedError 3 месяца назад
I searched this because i wanna see pros play like begginers
@elmoblatch9787
@elmoblatch9787 2 года назад
Two squiggles beat three squiggles.
@phantn
@phantn 2 года назад
Even these 2 players felt awkward.
@egemix894
@egemix894 2 года назад
they didnt. You feel awkward only. Stop dragging.
@phantn
@phantn 2 года назад
@@egemix894 You talked about yourself fdassof. If you don't have anything to say, don't go to RU-vid.
@egemix894
@egemix894 2 года назад
@@phantn cringe boi. self awkward and start barking
@phantn
@phantn 2 года назад
@@egemix894 fda assof . That's your name. It sounds like a barking, isn't it ?
@phantn
@phantn 2 года назад
@@egemix894 🤣🤣 Are they your daddies?
@davidjackson7675
@davidjackson7675 2 года назад
Why would someone choose to be a chopper?
@noahclayborne1240
@noahclayborne1240 2 года назад
Because it's fun and it looks cool
@bobmalack481
@bobmalack481 Год назад
Good question..the ultimate 'cool' is play reverse penhold like Wang Hao. Shakehands players bore me.
@daddymo7387
@daddymo7387 2 года назад
I'm my opinion the best chopper is Joo from Korea
@ahmedelsayed7527
@ahmedelsayed7527 2 года назад
This seems more like a training drill 😂
@phantn
@phantn 2 года назад
Who attacked more would lose.
@HrFZ1
@HrFZ1 3 года назад
for some reason got the feeling Hou cant really play well vs a defender ; (
@nhulamnguyen264
@nhulamnguyen264 2 года назад
2 tay vợt này xếp hạng kém nhất của Trung Quốc rồi.danh o bằng bóng phủi VN.
@akalsehat4227
@akalsehat4227 3 года назад
So Bored to see this game
@kuchikibyakuya7697
@kuchikibyakuya7697 3 года назад
Chopper vs cooper indeed boring. But chopper vs attacker is quite nice to watch.
@egemix894
@egemix894 2 года назад
nope, you're the boring one.
@pukulu
@pukulu 3 года назад
Hou YingChao misses too many on offense. Ma Te makes fewer unforced errors and his offense is better..
@leerichards7309
@leerichards7309 2 года назад
Joo se hyuk still the best chopper ever
@pipperlong
@pipperlong Год назад
Like!!!!
@pingsunday
@pingsunday Год назад
@Frenchfriesband
@Frenchfriesband Год назад
The kid match.
@chankim100
@chankim100 3 года назад
The picture really fooled me!
@hamasandhamis951
@hamasandhamis951 2 года назад
Mretrubrs…😂😂😂
@tepet5800
@tepet5800 3 года назад
Haha... Who want attack?
@otisskopik1400
@otisskopik1400 2 года назад
So boring
@danangtriyono1985
@danangtriyono1985 5 месяцев назад
Boring... How does they play, good if make i bored😅
@uddipansharma472
@uddipansharma472 2 года назад
Looks very bad generally there are much longer rallies than this in chopper chopper encounter
@cecepilyas6805
@cecepilyas6805 2 года назад
like a beginner
@patrickkok2744
@patrickkok2744 3 года назад
2 old man plying omg
@pauloafonso7167
@pauloafonso7167 9 месяцев назад
It was the worst table tennis game I have ever watched! None of them are trying to score; they just pass the ball. What a lame game!
@mikkaiii
@mikkaiii 3 года назад
Most boring game in history.
@chm2
@chm2 3 года назад
Very strange match full of errors.
@milchkanne21
@milchkanne21 3 года назад
Very strange comment, are there games without errors?
@28771
@28771 2 года назад
Kreisliga play better tabletennis
@youdunwu108
@youdunwu108 3 года назад
欺骗自己
@RGB5555
@RGB5555 7 месяцев назад
Worst players ever wtf
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