Chris Buck 192 Stratocaster restoration Pt 7 - Ultimate Vintage Strat tone?

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They say good things come to those who wait...
Concluding our Chris Buck’s Vintage Strat Restoration series is part 7 - Wiring a Strat pickguard 60s style and relicing bridge saddles. Stick around to hear Chris playing the Strat with some fantastic tone towards the end of the vide? Ultimate Vintage STrst tone? We'll let your ears decide but we certainly like it.
We hope you've enjoyed these videos as much as we have enjoyed making them. As always we value your comments and love reading them.
We've lots more content coming soon so please subscribe and see you there!
Huge thanks as always to Chris Buck www.buckandevans.com
Key timings:
0:39 Intro
1:12 Switch swap
1:52 Pickguard cutout tip
4:28 Loading the pots
6:35 Wiring begins
8:52 Mounting the pickups
18:21 Getting grounded
19:58 Relicing the saddles
24:24 Outro
30:53 Ultimate Vintage Strat Tone? Chris playing and guitar closeups
Playing footage and audio courtesy of Chris Buck www.buckandevans.com
Thanks guys,
Take care and look after each other.

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@jellitot1 3 года назад

Thank you for this series. It has inspired me to do the same with my '65 Strat that I bought in 1971 for £110. I gigged it for about 13 years before retiring it and myself from playing. It has spent the last 35 years in its case in the attic but this week I'm going to bring it down - getting excited about seeing it after all this time.

@tonyevans9999 4 года назад

well done, glad to see a players grade strat on the way back out there. instead of stuck on a wall somewhere, silent and forgotten

@Vidar.m Год назад

Great video, etching those sadles like that was effective very nice.

@retalt 4 года назад

This has been a great story to follow, thanks guys. I'm sure Chris will love and cherish this beautifully restored guitar.

@WilliamHaisch 4 года назад

Before I saw this video, I couldn’t understand why anyone would relic parts. After seeing the effects, I totally understand now. I have enjoyed this project immensely. Thank you!

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thanks

@nigelvernon4431 4 года назад

Many thanks guys for an amazing series, so interesting from start to finish and a fantastic job all round. Loved the little bit of chat amongst yourselves at the end of Chris's playing .

@mikepj1025 3 года назад

Absolutely fantastic series you guys put together here. Enjoyed every minute. Thank you all so much. WOW!!!!

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thanks Mike.

@njuham 4 года назад

This has been very interesting and has complimented Chris' own channel very well.

@maxsalasr 4 года назад

The trick of relicing the saddles was so cool! What a piece of history past and future this has been, thanks twins

@scottmacphee35 4 года назад

It is always nice to watch a true craftsman at work!

@GazP23 4 года назад

It's been an absolute pleasure to watch this whole series, I'm kind of sad that it's finished, but to see it in the hands of Chris is just epic. I really enjoyed how the outcome evolved and I think the decision-making along the way was spot on, it's a player, not a wall hanger. So glad you didn't refinish it! I too am looking forward to seeing Chris play this live, once concerts exist again. Although I suspect this guitar will never play Cwmbran Working Mens Club (round the corner from me) ever again! Great work guys, even the wire relicing!

@74dartman13 4 года назад

I really like how you aged the saddles with salt water and electricity. A lot safer than chemicals, and actually faster, too!👍😎🎸🎶

@harleyhexxe9806 4 года назад

It's called electrolysis.

@74dartman13 4 года назад

@@harleyhexxe9806 yup. You can actually make colloidal silver the same way. It's a great antibiotic!👍😎

@jessielee1520 Год назад

Do you know how he did that part? I want to try but don't want to get shocked doing it. I've been doing the chemical way and its fine but this way seems more authentic looking thanks.

@74dartman13 Год назад

@Jessie Lee if you look at about 22 minutes into the video he take one lead and puts in the salt water and one hooked to the bridge piece. You could probably use a 9 volt battery to do the same. Just hook the other ends of the wires to the battery terminals. No chance of getting shocked. Good luck!👍😎🎸🎶

@LennyJohnson5 4 года назад

Superb; a skilled and empathetic restoration, putting the guitar in the hands of one of the truly great new generation of blues/rock guitarists. Really enjoyed this series.

@johnmaseratis 4 года назад

A terrific and sympathetic restoration, presented in such an engaging and informative way. Thank you, gentlemen !

@madgeniusmusic 4 года назад

Absolutely stunning work Huw, I've loved every second of this series, thanks.

@davedawgtanyun3985 4 года назад

Great to see an instrument come back to life. Good job and to Chris enjoy.

@bobhewitt5047 4 года назад

A really interesting project from start to finish, with sympathetic restoration to suit the guitar’s integrity. Huw and Ed have done a great job as always presenting this ‘mini-series’ on their channel, and Huw’s luthier and restoration expertise is apparent throughout. Combine this with Chris Buck’s phenomenal talent - and we have a combination that Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 should be so very proud of! Da iawn fechgyn ...

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Diolch Bob, it means a lot to all of us.

@elieabifarah5899 3 года назад

I enjoyed all the episodes... great 👍 job I’m restoring a strat 66 and a 65 hopefully it’ll come out as good this beautiful 🤩 62 Cheers 🥂

@jonathanking7594 4 года назад

Awesome series lads - great stuff.

@fab-heidema 4 года назад

This has been an amazing journey. Well done guys 👌🏼

@TheBuzzwagon 4 года назад

Loved watching these. Great restoration and put across very well.

@GScott50 4 года назад

I have loved this series, great job fellas!

@GazMoz78 4 года назад

Brilliant! I've loved watching this series :-)

@ybabredi 4 года назад

Lovely job. Great videos. Really enjoyed the series.

@Furtheronmusic 4 года назад

Terrific job. Really enjoyed this series

@paulkelly5883 4 года назад

Great job. What a fantastic talent you have 👍👍👍

@robertcoggin3366 3 года назад

These days Fender actually makes & sells saddles that are properly stamped "FENDER" & "PAT. PEND". Thanks for the series. This was very instructional.

@sarisaro4148 3 года назад

your series has been quite a roller-coaster! good for you mates!

@neilgaydon5430 4 года назад

A joy to watch. Thank you.

@ernestschultz5065 3 года назад

I've always thought how nice 3 hands would be for soldering.

@nunoandradebluesdrive 3 года назад

Love this project. Thanks for sharing

@retalt 4 года назад

Brilliant. Thanks guys.

@stello1972 4 года назад

Yes Chris that’s your guitar and not a borrow! Awesome series guys! One happy crossover subscriber, sadly not in Wales but of Welsh origin. Loved every minute and can’t wait for the next project!

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Thanks stello and croeso ;)

@kurtisr2339 3 года назад

A true joy to watch this series. (A good bet I'll be watching these repeatedly.) So glad to have found Tone Twins. Best wishes to you and yours for a Happy New Year!

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thanks Kurtis

@tszegvary 4 года назад

Love your method to age the saddles, never thought about it but so much safer and faster then using chemicals like all those people you see out there on youtube!

@davegallagher7428 4 года назад

I thoroughly enjoyed this guys. Well done! I truly think you made the right call on all of your decisions with this guitar ie five way switch and so on. Looking forward to the next project,. A tele maybe?

@chrisdrake447 4 года назад

Cheers, fellas! An absolutely fabulous series, and so looking forward to whatever projects come next. I know Huw’s done a shed load of projects for The Guitar Magazine, and the still photos and text are great, but I’m secretly hoping you have an archive of video footage from these projects carefully stashed away, and that you might be persuaded to upload sometime ...

@Dad-Gad 4 года назад

Highwood saddles are the single greatest upgrade you can do to your strat imo .

@j.d.smokingpipes6227 3 года назад

Great job on the guitar and the videos Gentlemen. I found your channel today and I'm looking forward to watching many more videos. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays...... Jim

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Thanks Jim. Happy holidays to you too and hope you enjoy the vids.

@pierheadjump 3 года назад

Thanks TTTV. ⚓️

@leonthompson8988 3 года назад

The way they simulate rust in the custom car business is to grind some rust off some junkyard piece then apply to body panels via clearcoat. FWIW . The part will just look rusty and not actually be rusty. Smart

@jimdeeds 4 года назад

Class. Just class.

@billjackson6385 Год назад

Very nice ...

@thegiblins 4 года назад

Nice guitar, Chris!

@pvdguitars2951 4 года назад

Great series. Almost sad it comes to end. Happy to see you decided to put the non original pup in the bridge position ( a suggestion I made in an earlier episode)

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

You did and you were bang on the money ;)

@tonybrooks476 4 года назад

Classic.

@Abravenewfear 4 года назад

Nice!

@davemis40 4 года назад

Great job .. but that pick guard repair would grind with me when I looked at it every day .. I’d have to have a reliced replacement .. each to his own though.

@nealm1814 4 года назад

Glad to see you trimmed the masking tape to the correct 0.5 inch. Any wider or thinner and it wouldn't have sounded vintage any more :-)

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Absolutely. And in our next video we'll be showing you how to relic it;)

@justinrayguitars6024 4 года назад

I have been using acid to age the hardware up to this point. I think I will have to give the salt treatment a go. Has been a very interesting series!

@Deliquescentinsight 4 года назад

Interesting!

@stevecummins2776 4 года назад

Good work lads. The guitar looks great. It’s amazing how much better it looks that a modern relic Strat. If I ever manage to find a 58 year old Strat for cheap at an auction I’ll definitely be sending it your way lol.

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Thanks Steve ;)

@Guitar5986 3 года назад

Great series! Any extra tips on that 12v relic trick? I tried it with some knob pointers & it unfortunately didn't age anything other than the screw on the positive end.

@taylorelliotj 4 года назад

I have really enjoyed watching your work, nice one guys! Could you let me know what brand cap and volume pot you went with please?

@johnpedersen6611 4 года назад

It has been a really interesting journey. I have one question, what is the fabricate of the replacement saddles ?

@strat-xq5oy 4 года назад

lovely job. i have a june 1963 pre-CBS strat pickup. that needs a rewind if your interested.

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Many thanks. I don't do pickup rewinds. I sent Chris' pickups to House Of Tone, and there are plenty of other winders doing great work too.

@strat-xq5oy 4 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 sorry for the confusion. i wanted to know if chris would be interested in this pickup. what i'm trying to say is. if Chris wants this my 63 strat pickup he can have it free yes a gift" i no longer need it. i dont want any cash for it.......it really is difficult to give stuff away these days.......

@ChrisBuckGuitar 4 года назад

@@strat-xq5oy Hey, Someone just sent me a heads up about your comment. Thank you very much for the offer; that's incredibly kind of you. If you're serious, feel free to drop me a line at chrisbuckguitar@gmail.com :)

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

@@ChrisBuckGuitar My bad. That's an awesome offer 1963strat. Never occurred to me you were offering it. Wow!

@strat-xq5oy 4 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 no worries :) i'll drop chris a message.

@andrewkorbel9883 4 года назад

Great restoration! I wonder if anyone checked the lead content of the red paint... that’d be the only reason to change it at this point.

@juyanine 4 года назад

awesome job! that 12V salted water seems to work a lot better than ferric chloride. Could you explain why to string the headstock like that (with so many turns)?

@jessielee1520 Год назад

Can you explain how the transformer thing works? So it's 12 volts but is it plugged into the wall or a battery? what is the wall voltage 110? Also transformers have 4 wires on them how does that go? I'd like to try this method but don't want to die or be shocked by just trying without knowing the safe way. Thanks for an answer and great series I've watched full through.

@estring69 4 года назад

So fortunate that the guitar is already very near a top choice vintage color. No brainier. Looks great.

@eaglewindrider7700 4 года назад

👍🔥🎸🦅

@josebarberena9564 3 года назад

3:17 lol

@gtbones 4 года назад

I'm really loving watching the whole process with this guitar! I'm really intrigued with the relicing of the saddles. Are those saddles chrome? I know how to relic nickel quite easily but chrome presents a real challenge...but it looks quite easy to do it through electrolysis (if those are in fact chrome). Can you describe what you're using as a transformer, please?

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Just a regular 12v transformer - probably from some cheap device that died ages ago. Most folks tend to used PCB etchant to dull nickel, but it has no effect on chrome. The only tricks I know for chrome are muriatic acid and this electronic method. There are several reasons why I prefer the latter - H

@gtbones 4 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 - Thanks for the tips....I'm familiar with using ferric chloride on nickel and have done that a few times but never saw the electrolytic method for chrome before...it's a revelation...so, I will hunt down a transformer and give it a go...thanks! P.S - Is there a reason not to use a 12v battery or even a 9v battery? P.P.S - I have a battery charger that is adjustable for voltage...that may work as well..??

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

@@gtbones A 9v transformer works fine too and you can even use a 9v battery with the flying leads off a battery clip.

@gtbones 4 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 - Thanks so much for your generosity Huw!

@davidpask4232 3 года назад

According to the Fender REference Workbooks this guitar serial No 85024 was actually made between May 62 84450 to June 62 85093 and would it be Capri Orange.

@ferraridinoman 4 года назад

Why didn't you buy a couple of repro early 60s yellowish scratch plates and cut out some pieces to fill the holes? I'm sure you could have got nearer the original colour? Other than that nice restoration guys.

@ziggyc4474 2 года назад

Do u have a book you recommend to learn this?

@ijahtom4129 4 года назад

Nice One o but, 7adds? All the best and 1love.

@harleyhexxe9806 4 года назад

I've been following this series since the beginning and it's been very enlightening. I have to say the care and attention to detail you've used in restoring this instrument to a playing condition is admirable. I do have a question I need to ask about something I saw in the last video. You opened the original pot and swabbed it out with acetone, then swabbed it out again with Deoxit 5, did that eliminate the scratchiness? I have a 1980 Fender "STRAT" and the original volume pot has fallen into such a state that when I roll it back a little bit, it scratches, then cuts out the sound completely when I roll it back just a little further. I wonder if I try that trick, will it repair that pot? Did it work for the pot you did that to? I would like to keep the original volume pot in my guitar if possible. Thank you for posting this series. You do great work.

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

The acetone was only used for the pot casing and not the electronic contacts. Deoxit 5 was used for those. The best place to start is to squirt the Deoxit into the pot and work it back and forth. Sometimes you'll need 2 or 3 applications. Also be aware that pot scratchiness can sometimes be caused by current from the amp leaking onto the cable. You can eliminate that as a possible cause by placing a buffered pedal between your guitar and amp to see if the scratchiness is lessened or even disappears. But the chances are that it's the pot considering that it's 40 years old.

@harleyhexxe9806 4 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 I have tried the Deoxit a few times, and no change. I'm certain there is no current leaking into the guitar from the amp, as it acts the same way with any of my amps that I plug into. I will plug in a Fender Level Set Buffer to be sure though. When I purchased this guitar used, it had been stored in a damp basement for some time before I bought it. The candy apple red finish was mottled and blotchy looking. It had to be buffed out with rubbing compound by a Luthier friend of mine. I think I'll have to open the pot and swab it out and try to clean the corrosion from the contacts. I'm reasonably certain that is the cause of it. Hopefully, it can be cleaned up and saved. Thank you for taking the time to reply!

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

@@harleyhexxe9806 TBH Harley, it might be better to install a new pot of the same value. It will solve the problem and won't detract from its value.

@harleyhexxe9806 4 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 Thank you. I may have to do that, but I prefer to avoid it if I can. I'll take a chance by taking it apart and trying to clean it. If it doesn't work, I won't any worse off than I am now. I guess the only real issue is that the knobs are metal and use a set screw. Usually, they end up wobbly on a standard replacement pot shaft.

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

@@harleyhexxe9806 You might need a solid shaft - or one of those brass sleeves that enable you to use set screw knobs with split shafts. Allparts sell 'em

@batoli20 4 года назад

I can’t remember if you did this on a previous video put what value where the pots? I know vintage ones tend to be quite a bit higher than 250k...

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Check out part 6 for more on the pots. Both the vintage ones were higher than 250K as you say.

@batoli20 4 года назад

Tone Twins TV Thank you! I’m getting forgetful 😔

@jltrem 4 года назад

Actually vintage are 250k.

@davidkieltyka9 4 года назад

jltrem Officially, yes, but in actuality they tend to measure higher than that. 270-285K isn’t uncommon. Same goes for the pots Gibson used in the 1950s through mid ‘60s or so. 520-535K not uncommon.

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

@@jltrem Actually David is correct. As you can see in our previous video, the vintage pots were nominally 250Ks, but they read closer to 300K. I've just been working on a 50s Gibson with volume pots that read 600K, although that is unusually high. They're usually more like 535K - 550K.

@VERBANDTREM 3 года назад

Hi Tone Twins, Does the electrolysis method work on chrome?

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

To some extent yes. But we tend to use muriatic acid fumes with chrome.

@chickenlickin3820 4 года назад

Ta bo!

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Da bo ;)

@clintbright141 4 года назад

What did you end up using for the volume pot? Apologies if you answered that yesterday but I couldn't find it. 250k CTS?

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Correct

@hieronymus932 4 года назад

Shielding panel is interesting. Was it original to the guitar?

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Do you mean the aluminium shield under the pickguard? Yes, all original and correct for the year.

@johntaberman-pichler4272 4 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 Did you think of sticking a bit of aluminium squares into the cut outs on the back just to completely shield the electrics?

@kerekes1952 3 года назад

Huw, how would you go about relicing the plastic parts were it needed?

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

I had to relic up one new knob for Chris and when I saw the guitar last week, I couldn't remember which one I did. I used Colortone stain dissolved in water/acetone mixed 50/50. We should probably do a video on that.

@klauscottonswab2322 3 года назад

Why didn't you patch the lower tone pot hole in the pickguard and drill it again?

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Didn't need to. With two washers - one on each side of the pickguard - the pot was held securely.

@cgavin1 3 года назад

I'm being very lazy here but can someone tell me what wiring he used? Standard (neck & middle tone pots) or something else?

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Stock vintage Strat wiring. No tone control on the bridge. 5-way switch replacing the original 3-way.

@marko6831 4 года назад

Why did you change the volume pot again ? You show a flat back pot being installed and in the next scene it's a dish back pot ?

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Good spot Mark. It was a higher value pot - probably closer to vintage spec - but we felt it made the guitar a bit too bright.

@martgryfny 3 года назад

What are that three rectangular holes?

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Somebody cut then to add extra switches.

@benoitguillou3146 4 года назад

Guys ...Next time you wanna reload a vintage pick guard with a 5 way switch ...There are some custom made CRLs that look far more authentic with the brown phenolic and all , with the correct strength spring to retain the selection to boot ..... I loaded a pick guard with it , and it's deffo better than the standard CRL switch in terms of hardness of the spring ; www.ebay.fr/itm/Vintage-Spec-CRL-5-Way-Selector-Switch-Switchcraft-1-4-Guitar-Jack-Combo/253705424508 Another note ....put grease into the surgical tubing too , or you run the risk of having the threads of the height adjusting screw biting into to tubing , and then the tubing bunching up against the screw making it impossible or harder to adjust the height of the pickup. cheers

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Great looking switch Benoit, thanks for that. But We're not sure that grease and latex is a good combination. Anyway, the height adjustment screws turned freely and we didn't experience any problems.

@benoitguillou3146 4 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 there are different kinds of lubrification ...you could use melted wax on the threads as well , or any silicon based lubrification paste ...with my own surgical tubing that was very tight on the threads I did destroy three tubings , hence the advice .

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

@@benoitguillou3146 Yes, but you originally said grease so I needed to point that out. The best solution is to buy tubing with the correct internal diameter. No lubrication necessary. I got mine from a hunting catapult supplier on eBay. Cost next to nothing and should be good for several hundred guitars ;)

@benoitguillou3146 4 года назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 Well I only took those given with the fender set of screws I got , terrible engineering from their part lol .. But yeah the switches definitely look more correct on a repro job , and their action is tight so you don't risk changing the pickup configuration on an unfortunate hand movement ; www.mediafire.com/view/panigm247aa8c4s/20200310_025530.jpg/file

@jujubs76 3 года назад

why did you changed the volume twice it is different after 16:02 ?

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

The first pot with a different taper and the resistance was on the high side. As a result, Chris and I decided we weren't keen on the response and the tone was a little too bright. That's why we reverted to a regular CTS 250K audio taper pot. Hope that helps.

@hgostos 11 месяцев назад

@@tonetwinstv2863 thanks!!

@cameronfarrell9076 3 года назад

I can't believe you didn't relic the masking tape

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Given the ecstatic response to our wire relic'ing content, we really should consider a masking tape relicing tutorial ;)

@dangitbobby0001 4 года назад

1962°

@TheOldgitarist 3 года назад

i didn't see a ground wire between the pots, its not a good idea to just use the screening

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

Ah yes. Yet another thing that Leo got wrong ;)

@bluecat2831 4 года назад

Actually the fender saddles aren't really reproductions as fender use the same same machine to make then as they did the originals.

@user-kt6im1fg6v 3 месяца назад

yo!! what tf happened next????

@pedrodelatorre1117 4 года назад

Is there any email or private inbox I can contact you guys?

@tonetwinstv2863 4 года назад

Hi Pedro. Message us through Instagram. We're easy to find.

@kjatexas3679 4 года назад

Great outro. Am I hearing a bit of David Gilmore there?

@mrbesserwisser7447 4 года назад

Good decison to make it a good playing instrument instead of 'pure vintage'. A guitar is meant to be PLAYED, right? And to those who pays dearly for new guitars that are 'reliced': if you want a guitar to look old and worn, then play it until it IS old and worn?

@tonetwinstv2863 3 года назад

A nice sentiment, but not really on the cards if the guitar has a poly finish and the player is is in his/her mid 50s. Really... have a think about it?

@jppagetoo 4 года назад

Why spend on vintage parts? It's not a case queen, it's a player and it's been through a lot. The changed parts and repairs are what they are. If Chris is happy with it... then it's right.

@roryoconnor31 4 года назад

Ah lads, its a player grade axe just put a new scratchplate on the thing and leave the old one in the case, the plastic bits have no bearing the sound truth be known