Christian Doctors Accidentally Affirm "No Resurrection Required" (Sean McDowell response) 

And based on a handful of sentences, written by others often decades after the "facts"!

Can I have some of the that holy lard for my fries?

I've heard that if you Bear False Witness with the intent to save someone's Soul, then Jesus will Forgive you.

Braise the Lard & pass the pullets !

amazing.

A miracle, by definition, must defy probability. That makes it even more ridiculous 🤣

The problem with this argument (I don't disagree with it fundamentally, just a perspective problem) is that from their perspective god caused the resurrection, so probability is irrelevant, but god wouldn't have caused hallucinations and delusions of false events when those events are critical to the belief system.

In a world where people come back from the dead all the time. Of course, then Jesus would not be special. Of course, if the person came back and gave a first-hand account of why, how, and who caused the resurrection, the resurrection would actually point towards something other than just that a resurrection occurred.

@@LucentDragoon Then their argument is disingenuous at best. If they believe that 'God' is a valid explanation then at that point there is no more probability worth discussing. The likelihood that it happened as their deity desired is 100%, and the likelihood that it didn't is 0%. As usual, these apologists make arguments that wouldn't convince them.

@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana A whole lot of people were coming back from the dead in Jesus’s days-according to the Bible. A lot more than we have today. Seemed like a pretty possible thing back in the day if you trust the Bible.

Exactly. They have been trained to switch off critical thinking in any religious area.

It's a prime example of how intelligent people can rationalize using one standard for most of their lives, but a different standard for their preferred beliefs - whether it's religion, flat Earth, anti-vaxx, anti-climate change, etc. A lot of people seem to think that intelligence means inerrancy.

hello brother and sister we muslim meet ramadhan this month i hope god bless the world to become more peaceful place and help those who suffer, i just want to tell some information and fact about quran and bible, this is a friendly reminder the quran multiple times correcting the bible in many cases first in exodus the bible stated people in exodus could be 2 or 3 million, historian put some estimation that in ancient egypt the population could be around 5 million , so the exodus to be that many is impossible not just that based on scholars observation there would be a problem with logistic and the line of people that way too long and the collapse of egyptian economy also pharaoh chase the jew only with 600 chariots and that too many people would not perfectly fit the historical proof, all christian channel and scholars taht regard this issue seriously excuses taht its only thousand not million because the word eleph in 600 eleph doesnt mean thousand but clan so instead 600 eleph as thousand plus woman and childern they make it clan to fit the historical result and proof but the census that moses did and tax resulting in 600 thousand shekels stuff, that when you read the narrative the result of the tax only compatible wehn the israelite is above million so its true that bible said its up to million It is the silver that is directly connected with the census of Num 1:1-46. The fact that 100 talents plus 1,775 shekels exactly equals 603,550 bekas utterly refutes those who try to make "eleph" mean clans, not the number 1000. to render to the small number in bible its require scribal error in the total resulting number among many hereditary scribal error in jewish torah but the quran said its only small number and the bible said the ruler in joseph time called pharaoh but more accurately is quran because the term pharaoh only used in new kingdom not previous period of egypt the quran stated that the ruler in joseph time didnt called as pharaoh the quran simply stated it as king the quran also know the name moses means newborn and the pharaoh family member name him egyptian name not hebrew name and the quran is preserved orally by memorization also have fixed text unlike new testament that written in greek and can be pharaphrased if scholars said many of new tetsament is only in spelling differeneces , then quran is really better than the new testament the nt scribes they didnt uttilize the same scribal technic like this semitic language holy book does whiches you need to always copy it with verbatim and not adding words as interpolation like we found in new testament and old testament, also the new testament that like kjv based on byzantine is not as accurate as earliest manuscript, the nestle aland also have differences with majority greek manuscript and contain eclectic reading unlike previously and quran is not as bloody as people think in fact the bible is more bloody and severe in killing people as you know when you read the old testament also patriach that depicted in bible as sinner is not like quran sites.google.com/site/isthebiblegodsword/interpolations-in-the-bible/interpolations-in-the-bible www.dawahmaterials.com/answering-christians/50-bible-corruptions-contradictions-and-textual-criticisms/97-the-corruption-of-the-torah ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9SCECRhQHW0.html quranic preservation muslimprophets.com/article.php?aid=37 patriach commit sin? www.jesus-resurrection.info/bible-prophets.html patraich commit sin? unpleasant.ffrf.org/ genocide www.layittoheart.com/septuagint.html septuagint problem sites.google.com/site/errorsinthebible/dss-lxx-vs-mt bible error skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/topics/about.html contradiction www.lyingforjesus.org/Bible-Contradictions/ rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bible_interpolation interpolation sites.google.com/site/isthebiblegodsword/interpolations-in-the-bible/interpolations-in-the-bible interpolation ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--bpZxo2X4BQ.html contradictory claim ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1e1lWAcmaMQ.html quran preservation www.thetextofthegospels.com/2017/08/some-shortcomings-of-nestle-aland.html?m=1 nestle aland problem ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z9BOHhdixaM.html NT variant ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3Hr18MMu7nk.html NT variant ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jTziwt4YaKI.html byzantine text heres the proof no interpolation found in quran amd no need textual criticism like bible does that they need to lift up the variation so you could return to the original , so bible is not always the same text throughout the ages without need to return to original, peace this is only a friendly reminder lets be kind e

This is what’s disheartening. They can navigate simple, IRL concepts, but are then incapable of comprehending that same concept 2 sentences later re god. Fun story, not related, read nothing into it: there’s data to suggest that there may be some overlap with christianity, MLMs , and the right

it’s so crazy the hold that religion can have on the mind, what you’re trained to do in the moments is defend your religion at all costs and turn your brain off to outside noise that could potentially be steering you to satan/hell.

Just think of all those cult leaders that have made it to news headlines like Jim Jones and David Koresh. Seems to me that having some sort of mental issue is a prerequisite for funding a religion or being successful within it. I could think of many examples but first that comes to mind is Joan of Arc. Experts now say that her “visions” were probably symptom of some mental condition anyway that not only didn’t hinder her but gave her the confidence to become a successful military leader. Starting as a teenage female peasant in medieval France.

or politicians

@@pabriny Even doctors ,inc psychiatrists can have mental health issues.

@@frankwhelan1715 Absolutely!

Agreed. I'm thinking of a Senior Pastor I know of a reasonably large church in Australia who likely had Narcissistic Personality Disorder. This Pastor has EVERY symptom of this condition. I'm also familiar with a past President of the USA who had a similar condition. Any suggestion that a person with a mental illness CANNOT be an effective leader is demonstrably false.

Or Trump...

@@markvonwisco7369 Well, he kind of is a cult leader. :P

Eh Greg Locke...

I would argue you need to have a huge ego to think you are worthy of leading others. Politicians specialise in simply denying facts when they are placed in front of them.

@@markvonwisco7369 Sure he is a narcissist... but so are A LOT of great leaders. It is actually extremely common that the very best leaders are narcissists. They don't care about FEELINGS like a lot of people that go absolutely nowhere in life. You know why no one cares about these top business people being narcissists when it comes to business? Because that narcissist makes a lot of people a lot of money including the employees. If you are judging a politician, judge him on his ability to keep promises, what he does for the American people, and how well his policies have worked out. You don't judge a politician on his personality. Most politicians are professional snakes looking out for themselves first and foremost and could care less about you - but they lie like crazy pretending they do and they rely on the average idiot of America to buy it. There is not one single thing you can point out about Trump that wasn't looking out for the American people.

Hallucination leading to legends that grow seems the simplest answer to me.

"But Doc, I believe my grandma still acts in the world and very godly (answering prayers, giving me visions, and lived by example) and back when she was alive I asked her if she was one with God the Father (Deus Pater, called Jupiter in Rome, although I did not mention this to her) and she said 'yes, the heavenly Father and I are one... and all people should strive to be one with the Father by being good people' but that God was greater than her. When I asked her if she was an Avatar of Ptah (First and Singular Creator Self-Crowned God-of-gods), she just glared at me and stayed silent. Plus, she is from Memphis Missouri so that would make sense, prophetically speaking. Plus I'm keeping a job and girlfriend thanks to praying to Grandma and am very happy if I keep my willing-to-die-for belief to myself and the "Grandma-fearers" that I've been converting at my AA meetings. Oh and I used to add lead to my wine as a zero-calorie sweetener. Did I mention the water pipes (including for the water used to make the wine) are lead also? " I gotta believe they each would have side-stepped the idea of "possibility" and instead answered, "Well, if this person does not accept multiple sessions of psychotherapy then its gonna be the psych ward with this one, he is too far gone."

hello brother and sister we muslim meet ramadhan this month i hope god bless the world to become more peaceful place and help those who suffer, i just want to tell some information and fact about quran and bible, this is a friendly reminder the quran multiple times correcting the bible in many cases first in exodus the bible stated people in exodus could be 2 or 3 million, historian put some estimation that in ancient egypt the population could be around 5 million , so the exodus to be that many is impossible not just that based on scholars observation there would be a problem with logistic and the line of people that way too long and the collapse of egyptian economy also pharaoh chase the jew only with 600 chariots and that too many people would not perfectly fit the historical proof, all christian channel and scholars taht regard this issue seriously excuses taht its only thousand not million because the word eleph in 600 eleph doesnt mean thousand but clan so instead 600 eleph as thousand plus woman and childern they make it clan to fit the historical result and proof but the census that moses did and tax resulting in 600 thousand shekels stuff, that when you read the narrative the result of the tax only compatible wehn the israelite is above million so its true that bible said its up to million It is the silver that is directly connected with the census of Num 1:1-46. The fact that 100 talents plus 1,775 shekels exactly equals 603,550 bekas utterly refutes those who try to make "eleph" mean clans, not the number 1000. to render to the small number in bible its require scribal error in the total resulting number among many hereditary scribal error in jewish torah but the quran said its only small number and the bible said the ruler in joseph time called pharaoh but more accurately is quran because the term pharaoh only used in new kingdom not previous period of egypt the quran stated that the ruler in joseph time didnt called as pharaoh the quran simply stated it as king the quran also know the name moses means newborn and the pharaoh family member name him egyptian name not hebrew name and the quran is preserved orally by memorization also have fixed text unlike new testament that written in greek and can be pharaphrased if scholars said many of new tetsament is only in spelling differeneces , then quran is really better than the new testament the nt scribes they didnt uttilize the same scribal technic like this semitic language holy book does whiches you need to always copy it with verbatim and not adding words as interpolation like we found in new testament and old testament, also the new testament that like kjv based on byzantine is not as accurate as earliest manuscript, the nestle aland also have differences with majority greek manuscript and contain eclectic reading unlike previously and quran is not as bloody as people think in fact the bible is more bloody and severe in killing people as you know when you read the old testament also patriach that depicted in bible as sinner is not like quran sites.google.com/site/isthebiblegodsword/interpolations-in-the-bible/interpolations-in-the-bible www.dawahmaterials.com/answering-christians/50-bible-corruptions-contradictions-and-textual-criticisms/97-the-corruption-of-the-torah ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9SCECRhQHW0.html quranic preservation muslimprophets.com/article.php?aid=37 patriach commit sin? www.jesus-resurrection.info/bible-prophets.html patraich commit sin? unpleasant.ffrf.org/ genocide www.layittoheart.com/septuagint.html septuagint problem sites.google.com/site/errorsinthebible/dss-lxx-vs-mt bible error skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/topics/about.html contradiction www.lyingforjesus.org/Bible-Contradictions/ rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bible_interpolation interpolation sites.google.com/site/isthebiblegodsword/interpolations-in-the-bible/interpolations-in-the-bible interpolation ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--bpZxo2X4BQ.html contradictory claim ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1e1lWAcmaMQ.html quran preservation www.thetextofthegospels.com/2017/08/some-shortcomings-of-nestle-aland.html?m=1 nestle aland problem ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z9BOHhdixaM.html NT variant ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3Hr18MMu7nk.html NT variant ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jTziwt4YaKI.html byzantine text heres the proof no interpolation found in quran amd no need textual criticism like bible does that they need to lift up the variation so you could return to the original , so bible is not always the same text throughout the ages without need to return to original, peace this is only a friendly reminder lets be kind q

@@monotheist.. Take your annoying preaching somewhere else

It's funny to me, all the money, time, and effort Muslims have been putting into spamming atheist channels lately.

Maybe boyfriend/husband's last name was christ?

@@manusiabumi7673 yeah. He married Carlos Christ.

@@manusiabumi7673 Wouldnt it be Jesus' maiden name and Vasquez being the married name when they did it just a few years ago?

was his middle initial H?

Hallelujah 😂

Hello, may I pose a medical question?

After rigor mortis sets in there is no way back. Sorry.

@@phileas007 sure, i will do my Best to answer your question 😀

@@JamesRichardWiley Damage to the neurons in the brain starts in as little as a minute after the brain runs out of oxygen, with permanent damage starting is as little as three. If you've been dead for a hour and then your body is (somehow) revived, you'll be a vegetable.

@@svenpatrickbecker7119 tnx. I'm curious whether there is a known condition, whereby your brain misallocates a recent experience to the long-term memory? What I mean is a feeling/perception of something having already occurred in the past (sort of a deja-vu effect) despite the impossibility of that being the case, since the specifics of the event objectively prove you cannot possibly have seen or experienced it before.

yeah, it is not like we have people defending demonstrably false beliefs nowadays right?

@@naruarthur Indeed. A resurrection is far more likely than someone holding a false belief.

When asked they basically explain that Jesus was god, therefore the resurrection is more probable than hallucinations or other explanations. Circular argument I know but the most naive don’t realize it. And apologists try to hide the circularity by talking of NDE and other supposed evidence for the supernatural, or invoking one of the arguments for god.

It's not like they were rational people, they were in a cult after all. Cult members say all kinds of craze stuff

Incorrect the resurrection of Christ is the only possibility given all the available data. All the other scenarios fail the common sense and logic tests. Usually when having a conversation with an atheist about this subject they have a script that they must read verbatim. In addition the atheist argument usually ends up well we don't believe and that is evidence that dismisses the biblical data.

Heed your call O Apostle of Zeus, tell us the news from the Olymp.

@@ChJuHu93 all I got was static. Either Zeus doesn't speak English or was giving me multiple messages at the same time lol

Curious, how did you learn it was actually a seizure? I wonder how many things I absolutely remember are not as actually happened. I'm subject to rare fainting spells (about 10 times in my 74 years).

@@inyobill I researched "lightning strike effects on the human body". I found out there's almost always branching burn pattern for entry and or exit. I don't have those. Then I went to physical and mental Drs. Eventually it was concluded by various tests and such, that I am Schizotypal, and those experiences are seziures. A lot of explaining, questioning, and processing information was involved. It wasn't an "aha!" Moment, it was gradual. It's not easy to analyze and convince yourself that what you "know by experience" to be 100% true, actually isn't.

@@brucesuchman1253 Ahhh, interesting, thanks for the reply.

I know right?

Tbh I watch these videos to remind myself to not end up like that. Even if one is not religious it’s easy to fall into a faulty way of thinking in other areas of one’s life.

@@pansepot1490 agree. Making an epistemic mistake is one thing, the lengths they're going to in order to dodge evidence is another thing entirely.

Bonkers indeed

It's hard to understand if you have never been religious. You gotta remember that our minds aren't wired to assess the truth. Biases and cognitive dissonance are strong when it comes to matters of identity.

@@Fernando-ek8jp i have been, the first half of my life I took Christianity very seriously. I don't know what others experience, but I can remember what it feels like to revere a text as sacred.

Wow. Very interesting.

hello brother and sister we muslim meet ramadhan this month i hope god bless the world to become more peaceful place and help those who suffer, i just want to tell some information and fact about quran and bible, this is a friendly reminder the quran multiple times correcting the bible in many cases first in exodus the bible stated people in exodus could be 2 or 3 million, historian put some estimation that in ancient egypt the population could be around 5 million , so the exodus to be that many is impossible not just that based on scholars observation there would be a problem with logistic and the line of people that way too long and the collapse of egyptian economy also pharaoh chase the jew only with 600 chariots and that too many people would not perfectly fit the historical proof, all christian channel and scholars taht regard this issue seriously excuses taht its only thousand not million because the word eleph in 600 eleph doesnt mean thousand but clan so instead 600 eleph as thousand plus woman and childern they make it clan to fit the historical result and proof but the census that moses did and tax resulting in 600 thousand shekels stuff, that when you read the narrative the result of the tax only compatible wehn the israelite is above million so its true that bible said its up to million It is the silver that is directly connected with the census of Num 1:1-46. The fact that 100 talents plus 1,775 shekels exactly equals 603,550 bekas utterly refutes those who try to make "eleph" mean clans, not the number 1000. to render to the small number in bible its require scribal error in the total resulting number among many hereditary scribal error in jewish torah but the quran said its only small number and the bible said the ruler in joseph time called pharaoh but more accurately is quran because the term pharaoh only used in new kingdom not previous period of egypt the quran stated that the ruler in joseph time didnt called as pharaoh the quran simply stated it as king the quran also know the name moses means newborn and the pharaoh family member name him egyptian name not hebrew name and the quran is preserved orally by memorization also have fixed text unlike new testament that written in greek and can be pharaphrased if scholars said many of new tetsament is only in spelling differeneces , then quran is really better than the new testament the nt scribes they didnt uttilize the same scribal technic like this semitic language holy book does whiches you need to always copy it with verbatim and not adding words as interpolation like we found in new testament and old testament, also the new testament that like kjv based on byzantine is not as accurate as earliest manuscript, the nestle aland also have differences with majority greek manuscript and contain eclectic reading unlike previously and quran is not as bloody as people think in fact the bible is more bloody and severe in killing people as you know when you read the old testament also patriach that depicted in bible as sinner is not like quran sites.google.com/site/isthebiblegodsword/interpolations-in-the-bible/interpolations-in-the-bible www.dawahmaterials.com/answering-christians/50-bible-corruptions-contradictions-and-textual-criticisms/97-the-corruption-of-the-torah ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9SCECRhQHW0.html quranic preservation muslimprophets.com/article.php?aid=37 patriach commit sin? www.jesus-resurrection.info/bible-prophets.html patraich commit sin? unpleasant.ffrf.org/ genocide www.layittoheart.com/septuagint.html septuagint problem sites.google.com/site/errorsinthebible/dss-lxx-vs-mt bible error skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/topics/about.html contradiction www.lyingforjesus.org/Bible-Contradictions/ rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bible_interpolation interpolation sites.google.com/site/isthebiblegodsword/interpolations-in-the-bible/interpolations-in-the-bible interpolation ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--bpZxo2X4BQ.html contradictory claim ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1e1lWAcmaMQ.html quran preservation www.thetextofthegospels.com/2017/08/some-shortcomings-of-nestle-aland.html?m=1 nestle aland problem ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z9BOHhdixaM.html NT variant ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3Hr18MMu7nk.html NT variant ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jTziwt4YaKI.html byzantine text heres the proof no interpolation found in quran amd no need textual criticism like bible does that they need to lift up the variation so you could return to the original , so bible is not always the same text throughout the ages without need to return to original, peace this is only a friendly reminder lets be kind q

@@monotheist..[no need textual criticism like bible does...] Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi`i and Hanbali, or Sunni, Shi'a, Ibadi, Ahmadiyya, and Sufism.

@@agimasoschandir do you know textual criticims? its mean you pick the original wording from differnces manuscript reading omg

Thank you for sharing your experience. I had a vision of heaven, while still a theist, that will always remain among the most vivid memories and personal experiences of my life. I’m fortunate to have had that experience but it is thoroughly appreciated as a neurological phenomenon. All perception is. Visions are genuine to the individual. I do hope you have been able to process those vivid dreams and find resolution. Live well! And thanks again.

Very cool!

Such veiled monstergods are much more useful for military pre-exposure (blood ideas, sacrifice/death ideas, unquestioning loyalist ideas, etc) and for instilling hypocrisy and in-group bias which is very handy when you need to betray a neighbor or ignore the fact that you hurt them unfairly by overreacting. It's a natural world out there in this wilderness of reality.

I like the drama between Jesus and his heavenly father where Yahweh commands Jesus to undergo torture and death so He can forgive mankind. I am convinced that Jesus was hallucinating in the Garden of Gethsemane and in the desert when Satan paid him a visit. The guy believed in his delusions so strongly that he was willing to die for them and so were his followers. Afterthought: How much trouble is it to record personal accounts of people remembering what he said or dreaming or imagining that they were in contact with Jesus post mortem and constructed the greatest story ever told over the decades and centuries that followed. Which is easier to accomplish, a resurrection or the story of a resurrection?

Hallucination seems an unlikely explanation to me. Far more likely it was a con, dream or wishful thinking.

This is a black swan fallacy

@@FartPanther no it isn't. we have comprehensive information about human biology. Not one dead guy has ever come back to life, except in your ridiculous holy book, where they pop up like fruit flies.

The human brain produces dreams, visions and hallucinations all the time with no trouble at all.

@@JamesRichardWiley also people lie a lot. I'm going with that one.

@James Henry Smith and yet here I am, doing better than you

Well there are million of real life examples, of people lying, making things up and hallucinating. Even someone having a drug induced hallucination is a very reasonable and plausible explanation, with lots of real life examples to back it up. Another plausible explanation is how easy it is for stories to get distorted by people overhearing things. Like I am not talking about oral tradition. But someone hears another person talking about a prophet called Jesus, who was amazing. And then this person goes and tells another person, and then that person tells another person. And just like the broken phone game, the story gets distorted every retelling, because since it is all gossip based. Until someone actually starts believing it, and takes it seriously, and then tells other people and those people believe it too. And a religion is born. There is also the possibility of a charlatan, seeing an opportunity to start a cult just for their own benefit.In the bible, look at how much importance is given on donating to the first group of Christians in Acts. Selling all their possessions, to be given to the apostles so they repurpose the money is heavily encouraged. So, early Christianity being started and ran by charlatans, looking to fill their own pockets is actually not that far fetched. And again, we have millions of examples of that happening in real life, even today..

... or immense grief about their best friend's death!

This. Until any of us have ANY reason to think these events even had a remote chance of actually occurring, there's no reason to get lost in the weeds trying to find alternate explanations that the lying bastard contingent are just going to dismiss as 'un-biblical' anyway. The ONLY response to any of the insipid little pricks asking us to explain away their fairytale is to ask them to give a reason why anyone should think it's worth our time first. It's just a time-wasting strategy for them. Exhaust the critics with pointless debate to maintain the appearance that they have a valid position. They don't. Jesus was on a cross? Prove it. Can't? Too bad so sad. NEXT!

@@shuabshungne8043 Which would be a subset of stress.

Agree. Also keep in mind this occured in a time when we had no concept of biology, psychology, or robust epistemic principles. These things just weren't available, and even if they were the main characters are not literate. While some believe their illusions, in that time they wouldn't have had any reason to doubt them, making delusion much more likely.

No it is evidentially better supported than a supernatural solution, since any real world phenomena has at least been verified somewhere to some degree, unlike supernatural phenomena which have never been reliably verified to any degree. Definitions constrain human thoughts and communications, not reality.

@@davidlovesyeshua I'm not entirely sure what your point was here. I'm saying that even without evidence, a real-world explanation is more likely than a supernatural one. With absolutely no evidence, it's more likely that a crucified Christ was tossed into a mass grave and stayed dead than that he resurrected. This is true definitionally, because "things that can happen" are definitionally more likely than "things that require divine intervention." So...are you just a pedant who needs to be more right than someone who agrees with you or did you not understand what I was saying?

Me too. When you really start to think about what is going on here, it all sounds like a fever dream. That you never wake up from lol Half a thought, means nothing, just thinking out loud… silently lol- The scale of what we have convinced ourselves of in the abrahamic god, is astounding. I like to imagine what we could do if we did that again, but on purpose and with something true. And thought thru lol

Just like Nigerian Catfishers deliberately put typos in their emails to test their marks' willingness to believe, so this too is a test of faith. Do you believe strongly enough to be dishonest with yourself and others?

@@antondovydaitis2261 those typos are deliberate? One learns always something new.

@@pansepot1490 The logic is fairly straightforward; the sort of person to see through the typos is also the sort of person who would've eventually seen through the scam after a couple more steps. They make it incredibly obvious on purpose in order to weed out the least gullible people and then rely on volume to make up the difference.

Believing crazy stuff is the price people pay for thinking they will live forever in paradise (which is also crazy stuff). Viewed that way it makes perfect sense.

What a wonderful shared delusion! The experience of that moment is as real as anything else you share. It doesn’t have to be “fact” to be a true moment of …ahhh that’s so cool! 😇

It's too bad Sean does not know any more than you do. I'm still looking for new and better arguments instead of a rerun of the old debunked faith based claims.

@@JamesRichardWiley But he's honest about them being faith based. He's not misinterpreting science or history blindly, which is far more than most apologists do. That and he does less atheist bashing as well.

Right? He’s the only one who actually listens to the questions I feel like. I feel like other people take specific and complex questions and almost intentionally misunderstand them so as to not have an answer. Whether that misunderstanding Is intentional is what’s up for debate. Maybe it’s a subconscious defense? Or maybe not?

I don't know, in this case it seems like a bit of a setup. Two medical doctors who agree on not uncommon occurrences, but then at the end toss that evidence and research out the window and say it's more likely someone rose from the dead? I think Sean went doctor shopping.

Who?

I appreciate that!

The amount of research he puts into these videos is particularly impressive. As a person who likes precision and accuracy I can’t express how much I appreciate the work Paul does.

It would also imply that they think that people like Charles Manson and Mussolini were perfectly normal, sane, individuals. (I de-Godwined my original choice of early 20th Century dictator but, you know, the one with the toothbrush moustache).

@@simongiles9749 Charlie Chaplin

thank you

Add up all the sightings of the supernatural and determine how much difference it made to reality. My mother saw the Virgin Mary but she continued to be irrational and eventually died.

If have ever spent long hours awake, you "see" plenty of thing. Often out of the corner of your eye, things/people moving or momentarily mistaking one object for another and auditory hallucinations, super common. Also regular auditory hallucinations, like hearing voices, not clear individual voices but they sound like people speaking in another room, or a TV left on. Often unnoticed as they are a kind of background noise in your mind. I've had this but didn't realise until someone spoke about it on the radio, then I realised often I would think I could hear the TV in another room, but it was off when I checked, then I went back to concentrating on what I was doing. Doesn't actually mean anything. Your brain will sometimes makes stuff up to fill in gaps. This is how MP3s work.

I had something similar not long ago. I was dead asleep and my dog jumps up to wake me up, wanting to go outside. When I opened my eyes I literally yelled and jumped back because my dog's face was some weird hybrid of a dog and a human and it completely startled me. Of course after a blink or two he was just my normal dog and I was fully awake, but man was my heart still racing!

I once woke up to see a man dressed in black walking across my bedroom. Wow, was I startled … until he pixelated away a couple seconds later. It’s certainly a weird experience.

On a side note, I did see a ghost once as well. Middle of the day, wasn't asleep. I was about 11 years old. Never told anybody. I don't necessarily "believe" in ghosts or other supernatural things. But I do believe I saw something and confirmed it years later after hearing my dad and cousin both had seen it. Not sure what to make of that.

There is nothing weird about that, the brain has dozens of filters, recognizing faces is one of them xD

Sy Garte passes the test. His faith is strong enough that he will deceive himself and others.

It makes one wonder about education.

@James Henry Smith nope.

You are very welcome. Keep testing, as I do.

Is there a point where you might admit there is no factual basis to your faith, that we are living in a Godless reality ??

@@thoughtfulcreature8479 I can’t look into the future so I can’t say but ironically before I took my faith journey I thought there was zero evidence for Jesus even existing, so to find out that even the most popular atheist counter apologist say that Jesus existed, was crucified, and that Peter and Paul where actually killed came as a surprise to me although Paul (Paulogia Paul) has put forward good natural explanations, we have no way of analyzing the mental health of someone who died thousands of years ago so I don’t see my self because an atheist any time soon

you're confusing psychiatric with psychogenic

Jup, Elvis existed, doesn't mean any sightings from him are true! :P

I'm definitely not slowing down on scripted videos. They'll always be primary.

@@Paulogia it people like you whose lives were dedicated to church who seem to have the strongest arguments. We attended church twice a month and volunteered for community programs. The church just never had the influence on me to distress me once I quit going. Your videos really reflect deep knowledge that it takes a life of total commitment to acquire. They are concise and presented well thus very convincing. One subject I would like to see is how on church evolved in 30,000 different denominations. I say we are in the "Pick Your Jesus " phase of Christianity. Keep on keeping on.

It may be uncharitable but it is the most likely truth: Someone lied V Zombie Jesus; I know which one I would put my money on!

I couldn't agree more. Using ockhams razor, this is the most plausible. But then: lying has degrees too, from the downright lying intent, to "soften the truth a little".

hello brother and sister we muslim meet ramadhan this month i hope god bless the world to become more peaceful place and help those who suffer, i just want to tell some information and fact about quran and bible, this is a friendly reminder the quran multiple times correcting the bible in many cases first in exodus the bible stated people in exodus could be 2 or 3 million, historian put some estimation that in ancient egypt the population could be around 5 million , so the exodus to be that many is impossible not just that based on scholars observation there would be a problem with logistic and the line of people that way too long and the collapse of egyptian economy also pharaoh chase the jew only with 600 chariots and that too many people would not perfectly fit the historical proof, all christian channel and scholars taht regard this issue seriously excuses taht its only thousand not million because the word eleph in 600 eleph doesnt mean thousand but clan so instead 600 eleph as thousand plus woman and childern they make it clan to fit the historical result and proof but the census that moses did and tax resulting in 600 thousand shekels stuff, that when you read the narrative the result of the tax only compatible wehn the israelite is above million so its true that bible said its up to million It is the silver that is directly connected with the census of Num 1:1-46. The fact that 100 talents plus 1,775 shekels exactly equals 603,550 bekas utterly refutes those who try to make "eleph" mean clans, not the number 1000. to render to the small number in bible its require scribal error in the total resulting number among many hereditary scribal error in jewish torah but the quran said its only small number and the bible said the ruler in joseph time called pharaoh but more accurately is quran because the term pharaoh only used in new kingdom not previous period of egypt the quran stated that the ruler in joseph time didnt called as pharaoh the quran simply stated it as king the quran also know the name moses means newborn and the pharaoh family member name him egyptian name not hebrew name and the quran is preserved orally by memorization also have fixed text unlike new testament that written in greek and can be pharaphrased if scholars said many of new tetsament is only in spelling differeneces , then quran is really better than the new testament the nt scribes they didnt uttilize the same scribal technic like this semitic language holy book does whiches you need to always copy it with verbatim and not adding words as interpolation like we found in new testament and old testament, also the new testament that like kjv based on byzantine is not as accurate as earliest manuscript, the nestle aland also have differences with majority greek manuscript and contain eclectic reading unlike previously and quran is not as bloody as people think in fact the bible is more bloody and severe in killing people as you know when you read the old testament also patriach that depicted in bible as sinner is not like quran sites.google.com/site/isthebiblegodsword/interpolations-in-the-bible/interpolations-in-the-bible www.dawahmaterials.com/answering-christians/50-bible-corruptions-contradictions-and-textual-criticisms/97-the-corruption-of-the-torah ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9SCECRhQHW0.html quranic preservation muslimprophets.com/article.php?aid=37 patriach commit sin? www.jesus-resurrection.info/bible-prophets.html patraich commit sin? unpleasant.ffrf.org/ genocide www.layittoheart.com/septuagint.html septuagint problem sites.google.com/site/errorsinthebible/dss-lxx-vs-mt bible error skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/topics/about.html contradiction www.lyingforjesus.org/Bible-Contradictions/ rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bible_interpolation interpolation sites.google.com/site/isthebiblegodsword/interpolations-in-the-bible/interpolations-in-the-bible interpolation ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--bpZxo2X4BQ.html contradictory claim ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1e1lWAcmaMQ.html quran preservation www.thetextofthegospels.com/2017/08/some-shortcomings-of-nestle-aland.html?m=1 nestle aland problem ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z9BOHhdixaM.html NT variant ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3Hr18MMu7nk.html NT variant ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jTziwt4YaKI.html byzantine text heres the proof no interpolation found in quran amd no need textual criticism like bible does that they need to lift up the variation so you could return to the original , so bible is not always the same text throughout the ages without need to return to original, peace this is only a friendly reminder lets be kind a

@@monotheist.. It is a made up story. It doesn't matter how you translate it, it still is not real.

@@monotheist.. My Muslim friend... The wall of text you posted doesn't help hardly anybody because of the _"TL; DR"_ internet comment axiom. It stands for _"Too Long; Didn't Read"_ Also, you are hopefully free to hold any belief in the culture you live in. If you are free, then please do yourself a giant favor and go start asking questions about the truthfulness in the basis of your beliefs. You'll have to read your holy books as regular literature, not divine words, like any other book but that is the only way for us to try to find the truth. If you're discouraged from doing this then people are hiding the truth from you. Please use your intelligence to help yourself find the truth and the peace that comes with it.

Much appreciated!

If the resurrection of Christ is simply made up then all of ancient history is.

@@Justas399 well, i can see ancient roman ruins for example, so i can be pretty sure rome existed... And there are tons of ancient cultures with a lot of history, and they never heared of Jesus or the bible. History is the study of humanities past with plenty of evidence, the Jesus story is just one part of some book with almost none historical facts to back it up. Christianity is one Religion of many many Religions mankind made up, it's in no way relevant to the whole ancient history. If you take ceasars claim to have crossed the rubicon for example... This is a claim and part of ancient history. Do you want to compare this with the claim that Jesus defied all reality by rising from the dead. I think you are mixing up history with supernatural BS. The first can be studied and there is plenty of evidence for it and it is grounded in human reality while the latter is... Well...

Last year, a girl in my class asked me out. I was caught off guard by the question, which led me to declining. I often look back on that moment and think how things would be different if I had accepted. A couple of times, I'm so deep in this thought that I almost become convinced that's the reality.

@@reubenmanzo2054 Once a memory changes, we have no internal way of detecting that change. We can only rely on external information (such as another observer) or logic to determine inconsistencies. Even if we get an indication our memories are not accurate, it is in our nature to assume they are correct because the alternative isn't good.

@@RiiDIi Mostly, what reminds me is certain elements that would also be different. For example, I'd be living with her instead of my parents. My extended family will be visiting my grandparents for Easter and since my cousin live in a different state, I haven't seen them in 2 years. It would make an interesting surprise for them if I were to turn up with my girlfriend and a small baby. Then I wake up and remember that won't be happening.

@@reubenmanzo2054 I share such feelings. I also have memories of a few women I was extremely attracted to but remained only in the friend zone. Sometimes I get lost in what seems to be "this reality" and think there was another life I haven't lived. That's just the way our brains play the game of life. It's a useful tool to imagine what could happen without experiencing direct risk. This concept applies mainly to physical risks, such as assessing if we think we can take on that sabertooth tiger. However, our brains apply the same applications to emotional and social risks.

1Corinthians 15:45 is pretty clear on this. Jesus was resurrected as a "life giving SPIRIT". There are more proof for it though. So, basically, JWs got this one right. The reason why other Christians cling to the idea of a fleshly resurrection is because otherwise their doctrine of the Trinity wouldn't work out eventually, which is also, clearly, false. Though, JWs are wrong on a lot of stuff as well, but not on God and Jesus. Jah bless.

@@Michael-dq8xc yeah I honestly don't know how to reconcile 1 Cor 15 with the gospels. CT Russell did about as good a job as could be done I guess, but it was based more on his assumption that the ransom would be invalidated if Jesus took his fleshly body back. I do appreciate it when people recognize that JWs aren't all wrong - even Bert Ehrman did recently, where he said there's no way the first Christians thought Jesus was Yahweh, and of course it's well understood that Paul rarely if ever thought of Jesus as a man except in symbolic meaning. 1 Timothy 2:5 though.... and "born from a woman", though I do know what Richard Carrier says about that. Thanks for the comment.

No matter what the bible says tho, and no matter what scholars say, the hard question is, is jesus alive or is jesus dead. Either way, an alive or dead answer negates the whole story. 👍

@@TheScotsalan It does matter. If Christians claim that their theology is right and then they build their whole case for the resurrection around it, then when you disprove their theology which is derived from the BIBLE, then their whole case collapses. Also, if their theology is wrong, then they are wrong as well, and are not real Christians (or atleast are wrong and not worth to convert to that idea). So, it does matter what the Bible says.

@@Michael-dq8xc Proof? There is no proof. A 2000 year old book full of magic and miracles does not prove anything. Especially when the four parts about Jesus' life and death were written decades after the alledged facts, by anonymous foreigners who don't even claim to be eyewitnesses and who don't mention their sources. Legends are all that we have.