Christians react MARILYN MANSON Antichrist Superstar Reaction!!! 

Met him onces. One of the intelligent persons I have ever talked to. Great statement of him in "Bowling for Columbine" as Michael Moore asked him, what he would have said to these kids. Manson answered: "Nothing, I would listened to what they have to say, because that is what nobody did."

Good song, but you guys choose a terrible live performance, unfortunately. Try to hear the studio version, it has a music video.

I really desperately hope that you two do a full album reaction to ‘Antichrist Superstar’ when you all get the chance. Everything you talked about in this episode, particularly about Manson seeming sad and the struggle of being a messianic figure is explored within the album. It’s essentially about a figure, “The Worm,” growing up in an oppressive society and wanting to change it. He becomes a messianic figure known as “Little Horn” who tries to preach against this, but society venerates him instead of heeding his warning *against* societal hierarchy. Depressed and all too aware that this was a failure, he decides to self-destruct and take the world down with him since it can never be changed. Extremely nihilistic and Nietzschean, and very sad Sori, but I do hope you all can experience it. Plus regardless of plot, it has some KILLER songs

Sori: "Who was the guy who, he was black and then he became white?" [starts at 2:32] Vin: (WTF look) "Michael Jackson"

You two never cease to amaze me. Manson loves controversy, or to be "offensive", which in the 90s wasn't nearly as easy as today. He said, "Offending people is a necessary and healthy act. Every time you say something that’s offensive to another person, you just caused a discussion. You forced them to have to think" Well, that's what you guys did. You thought about his perspective vs adverse opinions vs the majority. I like to point out in every comment I leave y'all is that I'm an atheist. For anyone else reading, I also love every creed, race, and religion. I feel like I should add this side note to demonstrate that we're not so different, you and I. It's an extremely controversial difference, but arbitrary for humanity, nonetheless. And as always, much love out to you guys. To have an open mind is to have wisdom. Peace

Marilyn Manson - Great Big White World!!

Sori is very perceptive emotionally. Manson was for me what Korn was for Vin. I learned self reflection through music like Manson's. Coma White and Tournaquet are two of my absolute favorites. But this will probably get lost in the shuffle so cheers if you read this!

Marilyn Manson - Coma White

Well no wonder Vin don't play much Manson. He's afraid of being tempted back to the Darkside lol.

“I never really hated one true god, but the god of the people I hated” -MM Fight Song

I've been a die-hard Marilyn Manson fan since 1994. I absolutely adore his first three records. Yet he still strikes me as being a profoundly lonely and disassociated person. That's why I like his music. It's depressing, corrupted, resentful, and angry. Yet he actively refuses to embrace any higher power. That driven dichotomy is overwhelming, insofar as it being the start-point of his supreme triggering. All my love and faith is for the Lord, yet I still massively appreciate MM's 90s music. You're right. It's very sonically appealing, yet still sad as hell. Which is likewise entirely the point. He couldn't make the music any differently. And that doesn't mean we have to agree with him. And I still love his tones and compositions. At the end of the day, he's an artist. His music stands out. And I'm grateful for his output.

For future Manson live reactions use the ones from Gun, God, and Government tour. Theyre all proshot and sound muchhhhhhh better

Trent reznor co-wrote reflecting god and produced the album.

Oh dear...this sounds awful. MNson is a hit an miss live depending on the mix of drugs he’s on for that show... always do studio stuff for Manson.

The antichrist superstar and mechanical animals and holy wood (in the shadow of the vally of death) albums is one big concept) love all 3 albums. Id say please do either user friendly by marilyn manson or coma white or posthuman

Manson, one of the best lyrical writers ever in Rock history. It also helped that he was a poet before he began his career as a musician

I highly recommend "Coma White" by Marilyn Manson from their 1998 "Mechanical Animals" album. Viewed over 37 million times, with catchy and emotional lyrics, and moody industrial instrumentals, it's easily one their best singles to date. It's also my favorite song. Here's an accurate lyric video for Marilyn Manson - Coma White: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VEaF-KeLlKo.html

Lots of people dislike him live, personally I feel the raw emotion in his live performances the imperfection is what makes it more intense I can see and hear his intention

Wow. Sori, you really hit the nail on head with Marilyn. You should check out his book, Long Hard Road Out of Hell. You get to read what his childhood was like & you begin to realize why he became who he is.

Omg I recommended this a long time ago! 😁 Can't wait to see how this goes lol.

Marilyn Manson is a shock rocker. He's there to leave the masses shocked and the few to think. Yes, he's ripped bibles up, whipped his ass with the american flag, gave himself a womans figure in Drugs but all of these things hes doing to make his audiences think. He is such an intelligent man if youd ever heard him speak youd know EXACTLY what im talking about. He's using his platform the way he should, making music about serious issues within society. Religion, politics, suicide, rape, molestation. People pin him as "satanic, evil, or weird" but he's using that and all that hate to spread his message even more. With Marilyn, even bad press is good press for him. Take his lyrics seriously and his actions not so much so, but most of all look at everything as a whole and dive into the deeper meanings

antichrist superstar is a hell of a record. During that period he was probably one of the best performers around.

Manson didn’t show us that we can’t change, he showed us how to be who we are, and be honest about it.

Sori Has Such God Given Insight And Perspective, And Vin As Well In A Different Way, You Complement Each Other So Well....Thank You For Always Being Here

In the antichrist superstar album, several things are repeated in a total of either 3s, 7s, or 15s. 3 and 7 should ring a bell in terms of numerology, whereas in the major arcana of tarot cards the 15th card is "the devil". The "prick your finger, it is done" bit is one of the ones repeated 7 times (2 here and 5 in cryptochid). The ritual or curse begins in cryptochid where the character begins his transformation into the antichrist superstar, and finishes here, symbolizing that it is complete - that the little horn has ascended (or descended) into the man that you fear.

You should react to lunchbox

Wow. I mean, yes. Sori's first reaction was exactly the message he was going for in this song. One thing that people tend to not understand is that M. Manson's point was NOT satanism, but he wanted people to think for themselves. No matter what you believe, get there yourself. :)

My cousin is Christian priest, I remember when I was 16 in December 24 before Chrismas we are all celebrating and I put very load Antichrist SuperStar and I shown the cover "Hollywood" to him. He was very angry with me but I enjoyed a lot. heheh. Cheers from Buenos Aires Argentina

It would be cool if you did a album review of Antichrist supperstar.

Very intelligent people tend to suffer from depression and substance abuse. They find it hard to relate to the general public, they find normal conversation uninteresting, they find it hard to connect with others, they're very logical and aren't swayed by everyday fillers and distractions.

ughhhh, such an amazing song, really a shame the live version didn't do it justice. I mean it was great, but the album version really gives the full journey experience. Still, love what you do, keep up the great work Vin and Sori! Happy Thanksgiving

Very interesting and thoughtful reaction. Marilyn Manson was a big influence on me in my youth. I haven’t always agreed with your interpretations of his lyrics, but I’ve learned a lot from both of your perspectives, and I’ve come to really enjoy it. I’m looking forward to (hopefully) hearing your reaction to more songs from this album. By the way, Vin - I thought your comment about Manson and the teenage girl with the carvings was particularly interesting. It immediately brought to mind the chorus of another song from the same album, “Mister Superstar”: I know that I can turn you on I wish I could just turn you off I never wanted this

Arch Enemy - We Will Rise + Fields of Desolation (LIVE Tyrants of the Rising Sun)

Manson - Antichrist Superstar this is like satire and aphorisms philosophy Nichshe.But endowed with emotions, feelings and life of a different time, and pop culture. The main idea of this album for me "not to limit existence to dogmas, but to believe in myself, my strength and mind".

If you are worried about him being the voice and the influence of the people.... listen to him speak. One of the most well spoken and intelligent people on earth. He made millions being the mirror showing us what we ignore. From hypocrisy in the church, in the state, in the bedrooms at home and the drugs we use to numb abuse and neglect (as opposed to talking about it which was the result of his influence).... he helped speak about unspoken disgusting aspects of (as the first album is aptly named) The Portrait of an American Family....

Satan's Fall - Mercyful Fate

when I was a teen, I wrote on my book bag "nuke the whales" and "I support child labor" and "obey the Annunaki"

I love that Sori picked up on Manson's pain. Listen to Adrift In The Ocean by YOB. It help's me distract myself from mine, much like yalls channel. Its an important song to me and I love to hear yalls take on it.

Back when I was a Christian I would have been like “Oh man Satan himself was at that show singing along.” Haha Great bit of theatre though.

Anthrax - Keep it in the Family, In My World, Indians, Inside Out and What Doesn't Die

Marilyn Manson was a highschool geek that was kicked around enough that he became that deep introspective person, and this is how it manifested. :)

Oden's Ride Over Nordland/A Fine Day to Die (we have been asking forever! :D) Antichrist Superstar remains one of my favourite records of all time, it didn't happen out of nowhere and there is a lot of Manson's own philosophical ideas reflected in the songs on the album.

”The birth of Abigail would soon be realized. The second coming of a devil in disguise”... We need the full review of King Diamond’s Abigail album, right?

Briefly and clarifying the song's concept, the antichrist supertar is a reference to a political figure formed by the population desire, a type of Hitler (who was an authoritarian leader, but was democratically elected) The use of Christianity in this analog it's because many of these "leaders" are supported by some Christian groups. Basically you can see this song as "killing in the name" but the protagonist is not pointing out the enemy, he is playing his role.

The album Antichrist Superstar has a double meaning, it's the last part in his tryptisch trilogy, Holy Wood being part one, Mechanical Animals; part 2. In it's entirety it's a story of the birth of a christlike figure who has a fall from grace and becomes the antichrist. Also the album it's self is a direct social commentary on christianity in america [let's say 70's til mid 90's], and it was a direct attack on censorship from christian groups. The live tour 'Dead to the World Tour' that followed this album had a lot of christian and conservative protesters, which Manson and his band reacted to with more shock. Like tearing up bibles. A church-like stage design and a lot of chanting against protesters, police, government and christianity.

Late to this, but I went to this tour so feel the need to comment. The entire performance is about combining the evil dictator with the religious preacher. Obviously we know the theme of the song, but as you can see from a few props this was also trying to make a point about free will and a comparison between obeying a religious order and obeying an evil dictator (what would you do to appease your preacher, and are you anything less than evil for doing so?) There were a lot of references to Hitler in the show, like a physical manifestation of evil. Manson's movements are exaggerated and extreme, exactly as you see with almost every dictator of the last hundred years. It's all deliberate, and quite clever. Honestly, most people think Manson was just being a shocking as possible, but there's a lot of intent and meaning in everything he did back then, the shock is just a fun side-effect :)

The Black Dahlia Murder - The Window, The Lonely Deceased, Deathmask Devine, Abysmal, Closed Casket Requiem, I Will Return, Denounced Disgraced, Crucifed in Cruciform, Nocturnal, Funeral Thirst, Miscarriage, Dave Goes to Hollywood, Statutory Ape Moonlight Equilibrium. Please give any of those songs a listen.

Everyone don't blame them this song was a patreon pick. I was the patron who picked it and I choose the live version for the Nazi symbology with the podium/shock symbol, for the Bible tearing and for the energy of classic live Manson. There was much discussion behind closed doors as to which version to pick and I would have loved the Dead to the world version but the only copy I could find was on the official channel and would likely get a copyright strike. Unfortunately this isn't the highest quality audio or video but I choose what I believed would give them the best idea of what Manson is after their disappointing previous Manson reactions.

I miss this era of music when it was politically advantageous to condemn music and art to 'protect the children'. The NIN song "Big Man with a Gun" was slammed for being a 'violent hardcore rap song' for years and was used as evidence in congressional testimony by angry midwestern moms. Trent created it to encapsulate madness while also shitting on gangster rap culture...and it's also not a rap song.

I really like Manson. His art is so special in its own way. I love that he wants people to think for themselves and question their own morals.

Power Trip - Soul Sacrifice Power Trip - Crucifixation Power Trip - Divine Apprehension Power Trip - Hornet’s Nest Pleeeeeeeease :)

One of my favorite Manson quotes pertaining to the album ACS; is that he wanted to invent something that when played, "would bring the world closer and closer to the Apocalypse". You should really check out the whole album. It goes from birth, to death, to transformation similarly like Jesus in the Bible. Also, he usually tears up the Book of Mormon rather than a Bible because it is free to the public and one of the first places he played this album live was in Utah and was protested by several Mormons, so during the show he gave them a big middle finger by tearing up their book on stage. Reciting "he loves me, he loves me not... ending in a final "FUCK HIM!"

Manson and Monica Lewinsky were the nightly news for the better portion of two years back in the 90s. It became so shocking for so long, eventually it wasn't shocking anymore.

I love the energy you two project

Thank you so freaken much for bringing up "The Passing Of The Bucket Around"!! I am so over that!! I am a Christian, yes. And, Marilyn Manson is my absolute favorite human being!! One I would love to just sit down and conversate with!! Because, I truly do understand him fully!! I went to a "Christian School" and was called Jezebel and told I was going to hell daily...and also I was kicked out of Youth Group at my Church due to me being "Goth-Like" and "different." This ONLY caused me to ride the role of "the villain" and walk the path of rebellion to the absolute fullest for such a long time!! Even now actually, as a Christian, I always still go against the grain. I know my walk with God and it does not have to consist to "conforming" or partaking in the Tithe as in "The Passing Of The Bucket." I love My Jesus, I love My Manson, and I love myself and my neighbor too. I am so thankful for Marilyn Manson!! He gives me life daily through his Art. I am an Artist myself, and I relate to him and understand him fully. And that...makes this girl feel complete. 💋

Reflecting god live was truly awe inspiring with that beyond epic drumroll at the end! I can still see the strobes in my mind!

Also bear in mind that the title Antichrist Superstar is a reference to the the 70s rock opera/album called Jesus Christ Superstar. It was a well known album back in the day. And other commenters are right- always do studio versions of Manson; much better musically.

Speaking of Marilyn Manson always makes me think of madness - he artistically portrays it through music & art - not that HE is mad though. When I did my military service, back in the days, I had a buddy there whose brother was "admitted". He was older than my buddy here, by a few years. When my friend talked about him he said that his brother has "fought against himself" for his whole life, from committing suicide. Almost since he could remember, being a sentient being (I dont know..around 4-5 years old) he said he was going through a constant DAILY barrage of impulses to either kill himself, or murder someone else. If you take a pause there, and try to imagine this kind of onset on your mind, non-stop, every waking hour, where he tries to fight for his own `greater self´ that wont do what the "voices say", and have this hammering at your mind for, lets say for a week? Would you cope? Try having them for 20 years....or 75 (normal life expectancy). I dont think we should judge people that hard when they decide to end their life after being BATTERED 24/7 their whole life. Sometimes you cant "medicate" away demons. Suicide is awful - it hurts everyone around the person committing it. But when you hear what some of them are going through, I think it is a blessing. I dont mean teen-angst suicide thoughts because the boyfriend/girlfriend has broken up with you, and you think life is shit "for a moment". THIS is something completely different.

I will take the place of the Russian now, but this time with Fear Factory, and some of their best songs and then you will choose any of your preference: UPDATED LIST: -Pisschrist -Zero Signal -Replica -Martyr -Crash Test -Big God/Raped Souls -Freedom or Fire -Edgecrusher -Resurrection -Linchpin -What will become? -Invisible Wounds (Dark bodies) -Archetype -Drones -Slave Labor -Supernova -My Grave -540,000° Farenheit -Controlled Demolition -Final Exit -Powershifter -The Industrialist -Corporate Cloning -God Eater -Regenerate -Battle for Utopia -Expiration Date To all comment readers, make your song suggestions too from this band, and insist Vin and Sori to notice me more xD

if u guys like industrial music you should try this bands and songs: Psychic TV - The Orchids Psychic TV - Godstar Throbbing Gristle - Perception Is The Only Reality Throbbing Gristle - Subhuman KMFDM - Dogma KMFDM - Godlike KMFDM - Son Of A Gun Rammstein - Wilder Wein Rammstein - Weisses Fleisch Rammstein - Bück Dich Nine Inch Nails - Gave Up Nine Inch Nails - Big Man With A Big Gun Nine Inch Nails - March Of The Pigs Marilyn Manson - Get Your Gunn

Manson was never in the satanic church, the leader made him an honorary member, he always wants you to take it how you see it, sometimes when people tell you, you are something you become it

MM has been more comforting than other musicians who are false and hypocrite because they always happy songs. It’s about staying true to yourself and facing your demons not masking your feelings

Antichrist Superstar dead to the world tour was actually the best one but there's a specific performance he does that is better than the rest

Please react to The Downward Spiral in it's entirety!

More Manson reactions! He fits you guys great as something to converse about seeing his lyrics.. so.. more manson for the people yea

I WANNA GROW UP , I WANNA BEEE A BIG ROCK AND ROLLLLL STARRRR

Rammstein-Mein Herz Brennt

With kids (and Manson) it sometimes it feels like screaming into the void. Whether you cooperate or rebel - comply or reject it didn't matter - life still sucked, was oppressive or mean or sad. Being told to be happy, or compliant, or believe (religion, politics, family code) is soul crushing and it often has no where to go but internally. I love Manson for screaming into the void for everyone and making what some people consider "sacred", profane.

One thing alot of people dont realize other than manson fans is he highly intelligent and very well spoken

The video for the piano version of Rammsteins "Mein herz brent"... that's really someone looking sad. :)

Great points on the messianic figure. The song Mister Superstar from the same album talk about it. the chorus is "I know that I can turn you on, I wish I could just turn you off... I never wanted this"

Ghost is being protested now by churches on this current tour which reminded me of MM at his peak.

Absolutely LOVE Marilyn Manson!!! My mom and I used to argue about me listening to him. First CD I ever bought with my money was Antichrist Superstar and I had to hide it lol. I bet Sori would get a kick out of knowing he was that one kid on Wonder Years!! - Lisa

Ok, to clariffy some things: Antichrist Superstar is a concept album and part of a(n) (inverse) trilogy, first come HolyWood, then Mechanical Animals (symbolism here: Alchemical Human, you try to figure it out what doesthat mean) and finally Antichrist Superstar which ends with the song "Man that you fear". The meaning in Antichrist Superstar is similar to the one found in "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" by Friederich Nietzsche, a prophet who is miserable by trying to deliver a message, then is not heard and even mocked by the population, thushaving this process of self discovering and finally being murdered by his own passions and the people in general (there is an interrelation that Manson wants to assimilate between those concepts), so the complexity and symbols that are in the lyrics are really thought provoking, but hard to define. To understand this album, song and the Manson's art beyond the superficial, visit "The nachtkbarett" (they have a fb pge with the link to their web archive, sadly the main webpge is down :/ ) to know more about some "clues" that Brian Warner has left throughout his career. Greetings from a Chilean fan :)

It is interesting what the girl says. because recently I was thinking about Manson's career (since I've been a fan for 26 years) that his music allowed him to generate that catharsis of emotions. 🤯🔥🎖 I say this because you said that he seemed sad, and I think that through his music he managed and release a monster that ended up turning him into a rock star 🎸🤘🏼 and that makes him an interesting character for psychology if we see him from that point of view 🧠

while he was writing the lyrics to Holywood he went into a deep depression and cut himself over 100 times with a razor, with that being said Michael Jackson's Daughter wanted to see him live in a concert and the family said no, so she starts cutting her wrist and MM went to visit in the hospital giving her backstage VIP passes to his concert. I listened to MM when I was a child and through the hell that endured through bullying through my teachers, principles, and Christian Church group AKA bible study with snobby rich kids and their parents, always rubbing their money in my face, I was able to get through all that torment with the help of MM Music. "I Never Hated the One True God, but the God of the People I Hated" -MM People's religion always creates bigotry and Death. Every religion out there has become some type of cult in one way or another. I don't dislike people for following their beliefs in bettering themselves or helping others, it's the bigotry, hate, violence, and lies, that can follow it in which people become sheep to the wolf aka cult leaders, and not think for themselves.

Sori, you're kinda right, admittedly. Manson was bullied a lot as a kid, and it wouldn't surprise me if that's what started his phase. But that kinda gets you thinking about the whole "omni-benevolent" thing, huh?

The Piper Never Dies - Edguy

Antichrist Superstar (the album) is a concept album. "The central storyline of the album revolves around a supernatural being who seizes all political power from humanity in order to initiate an apocalyptic end event." It also has an atheistic line, which is at the top in the Reflecting god.

VIN&SORI, did you do Marilyn Manson's - Beautiful People? I mean the official video? Remember seeing it back in the days and thought; *this must be some really fucked up individual coming up with a video like this.* Seeing it these days I still think; *this must be some really fucked up individual coming up with a video like this.*. 😃 It's like taking the feverish mindset of a severe mental patients worst nightmare, and cross it with Silent Hill. BUT I like it more now than I did before. It is really a freaky piece of art - FO SHO!!! >> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ypkv0HeUvTc.html

Wovenwar - Confession, Wovenwar - Death to Rights, Wovenwar - World On Fire

When you are suffering know that I have betrayed you.

Vin’s face during this reaction 😂😂

"Who's the guy that was black and then white"...lol...omg!

You guys should have definitely listened to 1996 before this. 1996 is the song where the Antichrist is born and Antichrist Superstar comes directly after it on the album. He gives you his reason for the Antichrist character. The album isn't really a religious statement. By the way Sori, Manson pretty much wanted you to feel sad or at least feel something by his music. He wants to provoke you to think. He wants to provoke change with his music, change for the better.

I always thought this song was about emancipation, motivated by the will of the self. Christ and the Anti-Christ can be viewed as an established power-structure, so of course, anyone that deviates from the guided path will be viewed as a horror

The last lines in the song is God speaking to his people and telling them that he betrayed them.

The whole thing with him flopping over the podium is him acting like a puppet and mocking preachers, presidents and people of power

Jesus loves you all so much more than you'll ever imagine He will never leave you nor forsake you ✝️💙💯 Christianity is not a religion but it's the best relationship

I love the live version of this song, is powerful. Good reaction guys.

Not giving up on Neurosis. Lost is definitely not the best intro for the band. Neurosis - Locust Star (live video), The Tide, Sun that Never Sets, Stones From the Sky or A Season in the Sky The Ocean - Anthropocentric Bolzer - Hero

If Sori thinks Manson seems sad she should hear Man That You Fear.

Vin, you should read his book, A Long Hard Road Out Of Hell, you'll really learn about him as a person

Gojira : Of blood and salt

I’m sorry but how do you live in such a bubble that you don’t know who Michael Jackson is? 🤔🤦🏾‍♂️🤯

The song 1996 puts this song into more context. " anti-people now you've gone to far, heres your anti-christ superstar "

The 3 Manson albums- Antichrist, Mechanical, Holywood are all concept records that connect, but it is up to the listener to decide when it starts. Manson says it starts @ Holywood.

He actually wrote three albums they all go together. But the weird thing he wrote it backward. Holy wood is actually the beginning . And Antichrist is the end of it with mechanical animals being when he related more to Jesus Christ

Man, Manson really has stepped up his vocal game live as of late - I remember seeing him in like 92 and then recently I saw him again 3 years ago and even though he's still burning bibles his ability is far better.

Antichrist Superstar is more than just an album.