Christie Suspension: The Man, The Myth, And The Legend

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Another project off my list! What is Christie Suspension all about? How did it come to be? And what's it's life story? In this video I start from the beginning of Christie Suspension, and take you on a journey through the interwar period as we truly get to know The Man, The Myth, and The Legend.
This was a blast to research and edit, and I'm once again super excited to get this out to you all.
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Research Links:
RU-vid Videos -
• Tank Suspension System...
• The US Army's Christie...
• Soviet Tank History: B...
Tank Archives -
www.tankarchives.ca/2013/07/ch... - This is a fascinating read!
www.tankarchives.ca/p/lend-lea...
www.tankarchives.ca/2016/01/br...
www.tankarchives.ca/2016/12/co...
Misc Sources -
tanksandafv.blogspot.com/2015/...
forum.worldoftanks.com/index.p...
www.historyofwar.org/articles/...
www.historyofwar.org/articles/...
weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/08...
The past 5 years of my life and general knowledge I have accrued about tanks within that time :)
Opening Credits: 0:00
Intro: 1:42
Chapter 1: 2:47
Chapter 2: 9:58
Chapter 3: 15:13
Outro: 20:15

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28 июн 2024

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@eta320 3 года назад

Finally! It feels so good to get this off the assembly line. Hope it was worth the wait. I wanna start getting some easier videos out, increase my upload rate and generally make content that's easier to consume and the YT algorithm will like. Higher quality documentary videos like this one won't be going anywhere, but there might be larger gaps between them filled with more WT montages, tank related gaming, or anything else I wanna make. Thanks for watching!

@RazReviews 2 года назад

What song did you use in Chapter 1?

@eta320 2 года назад

@@RazReviews Home - We're Finally Landing

@joshfritz5345 Год назад

Would you ever consider reviewing the tank and armored car designs from Foxhole? That game has some really interesting designs which wouldn't look out of place on the inter-war testing grounds of France or the US.

@mugbug5 Год назад

Why is this what I want my channel to be but don't have a PC

@sheeplord4976 2 года назад

Christie suspension, a suspension made by a speed freak for tanks. Such a strange combination.

@billwilson3609 2 года назад

The US Army became speed freaks after watching Christie's 1928 tank fly around on tracks then on wheels. Christie had a mounted a pipe in the front as a fake cannon with the gunner sitting in front of the driver that had an overhead dome with vison slits to see where he was going. Christie pointed out that it's low height (under 6 feet) and speed would make it a difficult target to hit when racing around behind enemy lines shooting thing up. The Army gave up on using the Christie suspension due to the spring assemblies. They took up too much room when installed in the interior and were too prone to get damaged in battlefield conditions when mounted outside the hull.

@ninazu7307 Год назад

The intro was such a masterpiece

@connormanable Год назад

“Music by piracy” gold

@BHuang92 2 года назад

The Comet was indeed the last tank to use the Christie suspension. It was the heaviest tank to use it which the British was very well aware the weight limits the suspension could be utilized.

@elkapusto2414 11 месяцев назад

Nope, it’s not

@elkapusto2414 11 месяцев назад

Merkava is😊

@YourLocalRaccoon 6 месяцев назад

@@elkapusto2414 the Merkava wiki says it uses helical spring suspension

@imicz6409 Год назад

The best chapter of Top Gear.

@mikedrop4421 Год назад

Came for the education, stayed for the epic music. Piracy is my favorite band.

@af8312 2 года назад

A fellow Christie fan, nice. I'm very much so a big fan of the mid-late British cruiser tanks such as the crusader. It earned a poor rep due to reliability issues in the desert, but performed fine England during tests, the problem was simply a poorly placed intake that got sand stuck in it. Regardless, the emphasis on mobility, slopes and profile that the crusader series had clearly reflects that of modern tank development, if the Centurion was the first MBT, then the Crusader would be a proto-MBT.

@jamiereinig Год назад

Very interesting video, thanks for the work you put into it. What I want to know is how the poor bastards inside the tanks survived the epic jumps. They are coming down HARD, and the ones that are landing in water surely experienced some pretty wicked deceleration. I imagine all those dudes shouting "Cowabunga!" as they go airborne (as was popular back then*) and absolutely getting their organs liquified on landing. * Citation needed.

@gandsproductions5105 2 года назад

I find it kinda crazy that you can trace the evolution of the m1928 all the way to the t-62

@eta320 2 года назад

I haven’t gone that far yet, but I wouldn’t doubt it! The Tank Archives blog has sooo much on Soviet Tankery from interwar to latewar, you can very easily watch the development of the BT series and see it evolve into the T34 and slightly beyond all on one website. With original documents from the red army itself. Super fascinating.

@keithpennock 2 года назад

You should flip the segment explaining what Christie suspension was to the beginning as that is probably what most people are looking to understand, not so much the politics of military acquisitions. So comparing whatever the conventional suspension of the time with Christie suspension should be your opening explanation. Though Christie does sound like a colorful character.

@eta320 2 года назад

I agree! Although the purpose of this video is to give a quick and easy-to-consume summary of the history of its testing and use in other countries, so I think the video stays on topic. But I do think a quick minute or less explanation of how Christie suspension works could have been put earlier.

@straits9260 2 года назад

Just discovered your channel and it is severely underrated. Love it

@eta320 2 года назад

Thank you!

@xavierwedel4691 8 месяцев назад

1:24 As a car and tank head, I see you using the Lamborghini Huracán's V10 sound there, love it.

@frankcate 9 месяцев назад

1:40 That intro was fire

@user-vgrau 2 года назад

Nice short video on the matter. Found your channel randomly while trying to find more vids about Sprocket and after your Sprocket video saw that you have one on Christie. Wonderful coincidence as I'm currently working on a model of BT tank myself, so this vid was a great inspiration. Thank you!

@mamarussellthepie3995 Год назад

It would have been cool to know more about the logic and engineering behind trackless tanks xd

@cobra727 Год назад

1:32 this does bring a smile face

@billwilson3609 2 года назад

Christie was quite innovative. He first gained attention by patenting an improved dreadnaught turret ring design that was used by the USN and foreign navies. Next came his first front wheel drive vehicle which was a two wheel cab that replaced the teams of horses that pulled steam powered fire department pumpers. Jay Leno owns one that Los Angeles used. Next up was Christie's FWD taxi cabs that were popular with passengers due to using a double-drop chassis that set the passenger floor closer to the ground. The taxi drivers found the steering to be too stiff with the car falling into disfavor after Christie failed to improve it. Christie then got into FWD race cars using V4 engines he designed. His last V4 displaced 1,308 cubic inches (327 c.i.d. per cylinder).

@eta320 2 года назад

Yeah he has a very extensive racing history. I remember watching an episode of Jay Leno’s garage with the Christie fire engine during research for this video and was disappointed the never mentioned his Tankery endevours. Or any other military work he did for that matter

@billwilson3609 2 года назад

@@eta320 Walter also did some work on early submarine designs before he got into racing. His taxi cab design had a novel feature where the entire front end, that held the engine, transmission and drive axles/suspension, could be removed as a complete unit so a replacement could be bolted on in less than one hour so a cabbie didn't lose many fares waiting on repairs. I suspect some arsenal and ordnance engineers remembered that so worked that feature into the M3 and M4 designs. The Army began their strange relationship with Christie in 1916 when he submitted his prototype 4 wheel gun motor carriage that deviated from the Army engineers specifications. The Army continued to hire Christie to build their designs and he continued to build those his way even though the Army was paying him handsome sums for his work. Christie also manufactured and sold track systems for commercial and heavy trucks with twin front or rear axles that used one or two wheels per side. Those gave the vehicles better floatation on muddy roads so were generally purchased by logging and mining operations.

@mamarussellthepie3995 Год назад

@@billwilson3609 good to know facts! :)

@billwilson3609 Год назад

@@eta320 Jay probably wanted to mention J Walter's tanks but was told to stay on script. His FWD drive taxi might of gone into mass production if he had found a way to make the steering less strenuous. It probably was due to excessive weight on the front tires. Too bad he didn't move the passenger compartment forward and put the engine and transaxle drive in the back.

@Ulfur8574 Год назад

The only reason I know of this amazing suspension is because of the BT-42

@AJ-tr5ml Год назад

Literally the best intro I have ever seen on RU-vid dude

@anarchopupgirl Год назад

Can't believe I'm on my fourth rewatch, good lord

@puppetguy8726 3 месяца назад

The BT series had their combat debut in Spain

@novsk39 3 года назад

this vid is incredibly well done, love it!

@weddellseal8414 2 года назад

really high quality video, well done

@85isaboat53 7 месяцев назад

Bro I love long form content I'd listen to you talk for hours

@kwkfortythree39 2 года назад

BT tanks made their debut in Spanish civil war, along with the T-26. Anyway nice video!

@eta320 2 года назад

Good to know. Pretty much a week after I posted this video I remembered the BT saw combat way before the Winter War, but I didn't know it was that far back!

@cody481 Год назад

Awesome

@thesupreme8062 Год назад

I love the crusader so much

@AndrewofDoom 3 года назад

Hell yeah. I love Christie Suspension. Hella fast!

@lemonboy3197 3 года назад

Great video dude!

@tangydiesel1886 8 месяцев назад

This video has no right to be this good.

@TheDennys21 Год назад

Man that intro cracked me tf up 😂

@scavulous6336 2 года назад

Yo saw your sprocket video, you my dear friend has earned a sub

@NukerMunkyGames Год назад

God i love these goofy Inter-War Period/Pre-WW2/Super-Duper-Early WW2 Period vehicles, and the little mini-docs you make are fuckin' awesome. I've enjoyed every single one i've watched. I've got a Tank i've always been curious about; M1A2 with the goofy side-by-side .50 BMG Turrets, y'know? I won't lie, i had never heard of/seen it before i first tried out WT like 6 or 7 years ago. But yeah, honestly, any video that has to do with the Wacky-Inter-War-Period stuff that was going on in Tankery would be more than welcome in me eyes.

@I_am_looking_for_GF Год назад

Love that intro

@Turgineer Год назад

**Christie Suspension exist** BT and Cruiser tanks: **Speed time**

@cartmanrlsusall Месяц назад

The m113 and the Sheridan use the Christie suspension they use torsion bars instead of coil springs

@RussianThunderrr 10 месяцев назад

I like on of first American tank having front “French Doors”. - Also can you explain what Merkava’s 1 through 4 have, mind you Kristie suspension is long travel control arms with coil over springs.

@thedreamchasers7252 11 месяцев назад

I feel like they missed the opportunity to develop and use that suspension and speed capabilities for fast moving troop transport

@Bob-jf1tb 2 года назад

VEry cool video. But i really need to go to bed

@TheOnlyKingBee 11 месяцев назад

make one on the renault

@JakeWhoArtASnake Год назад

Wendigoon of tanks

@G31M1 2 года назад

Just checked this out because of your most recent video :v

@eta320 2 года назад

Now you have the context of Christie and his misadventures through Tankery

@roymorgan828 Год назад

As far as I know the Churchill and the Cromwell and many British tanks use the Christie suspension even modern tanks.

@eta320 Год назад

The Churchill did not make use of Christie suspension, but all of the tanks in the British 'cruiser' series did! (A13, Crusader, Cromwell, Comet). Along with the Russians, the British were certainly one of the most avid users of the system. I don't believe there are any modern tanks today that make use of Christie suspension. The British have switched to Hydropneumatics, and the Russians use Torsion Bars.

@02suraditpengsaeng41 Год назад

19:57 Me who are fan of build chunk tank (sprock) : "Here your fu*king place *TRASH* "

@ninazu7307 Год назад

And well... The finnish. *Benis echoing in the distance*

@mark009vn Год назад

the Ferrari of tank, unfortunately wars are fought with Toyotas... and maybe Mitsubishis

@elkapusto2414 11 месяцев назад

Guys, what if I told you... that the christie suspension is still in use? And is it installed on the Israeli Merkava? Mindblowing huh? 😊

@elkapusto2414 11 месяцев назад

It's hard to believe, considering that the Merkava weighs like a King tiger .. and is actually not very fast

@eta320 11 месяцев назад

The Merkava does use a coil spring suspension, but it’s not really “Christie” suspension. Christie’s suspension was famous for just how massive the springs themselves were, which allowed the wheels very good travel. The Merkavas springs are pretty standard size from what I know. So while it is the same form factor, some pedantic nerd out there could point out that it isn’t, by definition, Christie suspension. And that nerd is me 🤓

@thecanadianchurchill4080 Год назад

The m31 tank is in wot console as a premium

@Tau-5-weeb Год назад

Speed. Im on speed

@guyandthatoneguy6538 2 года назад

Comet was torsion bar

@eta320 2 года назад

Sorry for the late reply! Although I wasn’t 100% sure when I made this video, since the only source I had bothered to check was Wikipedia. I can now say for a fact it is indeed Christie suspension. The Comet evolved from the cruiser series of British tanks, all of which used Christie Suspension and the Comet was the last one to do so. Wikipedia, Tank Encyclopedia, Bovington Museum, and many other sources confirm this. But of course, why trust the words of random articles when you can see for yourself! The Shadock is a source I trust very much, and they have a series of pictures of surviving comet tanks, a few of which are cracked open and allow you to see the suspension inside. Shadock also provides original sources for their photos so you can check their legitimacy. Here is a great one of a rusted Comet hull on the beach. The angled Christie springs are clearly visible: www.flickr.com/photos/halfpenny/2224385920/ There is another photo of a Comet in a restoration garage that shows the suspension quite well, but I’ll let you see that on your own: the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Comets.pdf Happy digging!

@JamezJoy2472 5 месяцев назад

No bt 42

@flameraker6824 Год назад

Ay didn't the swedish use Christie suspension too? Might be wrong

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Год назад

No, they used torsions or hydropneumatic transmission, but only on strv103. Look like they werent big fans of Christie.

@Lightman0359 Год назад

You and LazerPig need to do a collab, You have similar irreverent styles [though you do get to the point faster].

@williamashbless7904 Год назад

Great stuff. Every tank nerd knows Christie but, not to the level you presented.

@TheLostGamerMan Год назад

R.I.P. Christie. No one loved him it seems lmao

@ComfortsSpecter Год назад

Tunk

@jackknall9966 3 года назад

c00l vidio η420

@wulfleyn6498 Год назад

Didn't the T-44 have christy?

@eta320 Год назад

It did not. Even as T-34 was entering mass production, the Russians wanted to get rid of Christie Suspension, see the T-34M plans and wooden mock-up. So as soon as they had the ability to be rid of it, they took it.

@wulfleyn6498 Год назад

@@eta320 ye, remembered the t-34m wasn't sure on the t-44, thx

@WatcherMovie008 Год назад

I never get the whole "US didn't adopt Christie Suspension because they thought it was stupid" argument. If that were true, then what is the M1931? The US Army was very interested in Christie's design, however they were not interested working with Christie as a person. Every change that the Army suggested from the M1931 trial, Christie refused, hell he adamantly and verbally argued against the US Army from changing his design because Christie wanted sports car in a tank form. He became such an asshole of a man to deal with that the US Army dropped the idea of adopting the Christie Suspension because the inventor was impossible to work with.

@eta320 Год назад

Most people just aren’t aware of the numerous projects the US experimented with using Christie suspension, such as the T3, T3E2, T4, or T7. And even with Christie being as difficult to work with as he was, the US still pursued the suspension after they cut him from all the projects, just passing on the duties to other manufacturers.

@CountSpartula Год назад

On this episode of "The US Military screws over a small entrepreneur"...

@limenade67 Год назад

Wait till he learns that the t-34 was Christie suspension

@eta320 Год назад

Yeah I’m surprised looking back that I didn’t mention the T-34 in the video. I knew it had it at the time

@limenade67 Год назад

@@eta320 maybe if points about the t-34 we’re made you could have done comparisons on how the British handled Christie suspension on medium tanks to how the Soviets did